Love the guest!

@kylempaintballer

5 ай бұрын

Josh... Josh...? Oh, non-feral Josh Pate, got it.

Ultimately, if DeBoer can coach (evidence shows he can) then Bama will be fine. After BoB and Rees, Bama fans will realize that DeBoer/Grubb are much better offensive coaches. That should translate to improved consistently and more offensive success.

Hey Cole just wanted to let you know that this Bama boy from Tuscaloosa. Absolutely LOVES your show brother! Much RESPECT my Auburn brother!

@CubeShow61

5 ай бұрын

Thank you sir!

Look we had it made for 17 years, I was more taken aback about the retirement not so much about who might leave, we lose a lot of players each year anyway. But I think we’re recovering now and looking up and forward to spring A game

Bama has a stacked roster even with the players that left.

Those Wickles are legit !!

Cube always has awesome content. Plus he rolls with Pate. Can't lose.

Wicked Pickles are EXCELLENT by the way. As for the buckeyes... IDK if they have the best roster in the country... but it has to be close just looking at the composite rankings they are certainly in the top 5. What I do know is that 9 of 11 starters, most that were draft eligible off what was one of the best defenses in the country will actually be BETTER in 2024. Caleb Downs lets Knowles slide Sonny Styles to Linebacker (OLB) full-time. This is poised to be in the running for best defense in OSU school history. I think the OSU defense will be Georgia cira 2021 level good. All the potentional is on the roster it has to be developed by where a buckeye fan sits right now, you're pretty stoked by how the near and long term future looks

@christinasteele8839

5 ай бұрын

They paid enough for these elite players

I mean most of these players committed to coaches not Alabama. Half of these players were there for Saint Nick, and the portal is closed for every other team except three. Spring we will be able to get some more transfers, just have to be patient.

Lets see how the 2024 season plays out it may not be bad or it could be bad , we will know after 2024 season

I like how you and other college football content creators (like JP) include one another in your podcasts. Pretty neat to see the various angles you all take on any given topic when you collaborate with one another!

Really good and insightful conversations.

Great show Cole! In the near future would it be possible to do some deep dive on the X’s & O’s of DeBoer’s offense and Womack’s defense? Maybe some breakdowns of what Alabama MIGHT look like next season?

@chiefwildturkey

5 ай бұрын

This is the best idea I have seen/heard since this thing started. Let's get the wrapping of before we decide we don't like the contents.

@KatelynIngle

5 ай бұрын

Surprise ! Roll Tide! Two words only to allow shake and bake. Don’t buy into 4-2-5 defense ..

@KatelynIngle

5 ай бұрын

KD has experience in this situation 2 years ago with much less size resource and talent we are please as Tide fans highly.

@KatelynIngle

5 ай бұрын

College becoming NFL loyalty and commitment is out the window.

@KatelynIngle

5 ай бұрын

Johnny football pissed about that signature now lol 😂

A&m had a great roster top classes yet suckered. Players are only as good as coaches who lead develope and place them in good position to win

@brandonman1315

5 ай бұрын

A&M isn’t Ohio State.

@RT22-pb2pp

5 ай бұрын

@@brandonman1315 true but osu has not beat Michigan in 3 yrs so day is not that awesome either

Great show! Good job cube.

I'm not sold on that offense for Ohio st this year. Losing Harrison going to show especially since they were kinda crappy with him last year!

@brandonman1315

5 ай бұрын

They had the be loss to the national champs, and brought in JJ Smith, the best wr in the country to go with Inniss, and Carnell Tate. Plus Egbuka is coming back. You aren’t very smart.

@ThreadAndCircuses1

5 ай бұрын

Will Howard brings a QB run dimension, ability to extend plays, and is an NFL level intermediate passer. McCord was a slightly lesser intermediate passer with no QB run game/playmaking dimension. And let's not pretend Michigan didn't just win barely throwing the ball with mediocre tackles and average receiver play.

Great show

I think the exact thing that Josh said about coaches that can develop players. It’s going to be more important now. DeBoer was a strategic hire. He develops players and does more with less.

New Camera. Let's goooo

Some great points guy's. I wanted to comment on a couple of things. First as a Bama fan last week I ran through a gamut of emotions and frankly was still processing coach's retirement as players departed which compounded the issue. After the dust settled only pissed with Isaiah because of all he did and the offensive staff we had coming in. Same could be said for Procter with the O-line coach it didn't get to me like IB. As the days went on I adjusted and settled down. Second point is I know You cant replace Saban with one man but ever since Kirby left its been a revolving door of assistant coached and I feel what we have now if they can stay together can do similar things as Saban did with the sum of the parts being almost equal to the whole of the greatest.

As always great show, like the improvement of the camera. Just gotta get the fps higher

@fuckcensorship69

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 because there's a lot of precise movement happening. That's why we all listen, right? To watch the movement of Cole's lips. 😂😂😂😂

Good commentary as always. BTW, buying more Wickles. Love them. Thanks for reminding me 🙂

Momentum is such a factor in heat of game. We r building a new great era in Tuscaloosa.

All the college teams are pro teams now. The NFL shares revenue fairly evenly. College unless changes are made in NIL money will be like MLB which doesn't share revenues very equally. Over a few years, whomever has the big time NIL money will come to dominate the game. It will be the Yankees and the Dodgers.

Bama will still be a consistent contender

You want to fix NIL and the transfer portal? One undergrad transfer. One post grad transfer. In both cases you have to sit out a year. It doesn’t count against your eligibility. No one is going to pay a bag for a guy sitting the bench. Players and coaches would be more committed to the transfer. Players and coaches lose. The sport wins.

@brandonman1315

5 ай бұрын

Stopping a kid from being able to play if circumstances change is stupid.

Just FYI Ohio st just added Julian Sayin!!!! LFG!!!!!!

@SS11660

5 ай бұрын

He just got bummed down to #3 with Austin coming in so can't blame him.

@christinasteele8839

5 ай бұрын

That doesn’t really mean anything. Bryce was the no1 we in college football for two years, 0 national titles.

Love your show, keep up the good work

Focus is now on good players coming in from Washington. Highly rated a d played for DEbore. Alabama demise is just fodder for internet.

If NIL and portal were all that were needed for a title, Jimbo would be going for a three-peat at A&M. Pate is correct. Lots of teams will get out coached. Additionally, without player development in the offseason in a consistent program, the quality of the game will drop off.....teams with all the money poaching the best players WILL create demand for change.

Cubelic you explained why Harbaugh just won the title. He ran them more Prostyle than college. Not a lot of recruiters on his staff doubling as position coaches. Coaches are actually coaching and the S/C is top notch! The College game is becoming more like the pros. Travaris Robinson is one of the best recruiters in the country. Saban was the DBs coach we all know that. Same with Kirby/ Muschamp. Secondary is their calling card.

Here's a possible "solution" to the current situation that I've already said before but we've never had a "high profile case" as the "case study" and Alabama has opened up a flaw in the transfer portal 30 day rule. I think it is absolutely fair for kids to leave when a coach retires/leaves. Here's what we should do from now on, though: the portal is open for kids to leave for 2 weeks (a month is asinine imo) but then immediately following this two weeks have a one week period for kids of ANY program to be able to contact universities that lost their coach and express interest and maybe even transfer to that school but set the limitation that it must be the player themselves that contact the school who lost their coach and the school replacing their coach cam ABSOLUTELY NOT be the ones to initiate the process. To me, this is fair because Alabama is not going to be the last university to see this happen. Big-time coaches will leave other schools in the future, and their fans will absolutely be in "despair." Fix it now before this happens again.

Good Show!

Pay every player $50k per year and cap NIL at $100k-$250k. Unregulated NIL and portal will destroy college football. Roll Tide!

@fuckcensorship69

5 ай бұрын

Take it back underground like it was during the dynasty 😂😂😂

@glockman9c

5 ай бұрын

@@fuckcensorship69 - yea, a lot of Bama hating losers say that.

@fuckcensorship69

5 ай бұрын

@@glockman9c lol. YOU said it . I rephrased it

@michaellang4242

5 ай бұрын

⁠@@fuckcensorship69so, you admit to being a Bama hating loser. 😂😂😂

I love Saban but I am excited for a fresh start with the best offensive coaches in the country. Let the NIL chasers leave. We need TEAM players. We will be top 10 next year and higher the following year. I have faith in DeBoer. Roll Tide!

I think it’s interesting that y’all are talking football becoming more like basketball. Basketball teams had to adapt to the one-and-dones. That means every team’s roster changes every year. The teams that do well each year are the programs that can keep a core together for a few years, and then roster management becomes a key aspect. Then you have to coach them up to gel as a team. But it seems like recruiting is becoming roster management. Making sure you keep your roster in balance and scheming are going to be ultra important going forward.

Wow! Proctor a guard. That surprised me, considering how much the kid improved in the last 1/3 of the season. But when a guy that knows offensive line the way Cube does says guard I listen. If Proctor is smart I'd recommend that he listens to Cube.

Which college football team becomes the first to jump into the NFL?

I think waaay over reacting,but it gets clicks when you panic the masses.

@gk5891

5 ай бұрын

Blue Chip Ratio Washington 2023 - 32.5 Alabama 2023 - 90 Most likely Alabama's BCR for 2024 will exceed multiple Saban Championship Teams even after the transfers. DeBoer is in a tougher conference, but he will still have twice the talent he had at Washington even with the transfers. I believe Alabama will win at least two of their games against ranked teams. ESPN 2024 Rankings 1. Georgia 8. Missouri 14. LSU 15. Oklahoma 17. Tennessee Winning more will be an outperform and less an underperform. Kalen DeBoer has yet to underperform in his coaching career.

Nah, Tyrone Prothro still has the greatest catch in Tide history. Bond has it for the Iron Bowl.

The future belongs to the BIG 10

@christinasteele8839

5 ай бұрын

Okay, if you say so

Can’t see what’s in their face cause the money in the way real talk that’s what’s up. ❤ Ohio st scary.. terrible horrible Ohio st is not a worry for us 12 team play off except us The Tide in CFP. Can we appreciate KD handling business and Saban letting him have all the lights. KD and saban in close phone contact. Man, we ain’t ever worried at Alabama. We knew saban would retire eventually. I wished with 300 plus wins. Tho.

@brandonman1315

5 ай бұрын

You need to go back to school, this rant was painful and made me wish I was illiterate. Like you.

If you go to revenue sharing with contracts, I think the players' union would be beneficial. The whole "corruption" you're talking about is happening, right now,12x worse than using revenue sharing, contracts and player unions. IMO though, everyone's entitled to their own.

Im just ready to see the world's reaction of the first player getting fired by his dream school.

Didn't 20 players decom./enter portal BEFORE Sabin retired. Pretty sure that's true, and maybe a reason he left.

Here for Josh

Hardly

40:38 Joey Gatewood

Love me some Mema!❤

Many play for the most winning school with TWO legends. We knew what was to come with Sabans retirement. I was like what the heck? When saban hired all these coaches look at them now. At their own programs. We r gonna show them all who Deboer is and the talent we have now much less to come. NFL is built by Bama. Kids will look to their future Michigan and Al the most winning programs in history with a upper mid west to SEC mix (plus recruits.) Bama fans myself included r excited!

Guys no worries ... Bama will strike back in May and they will go on a bluechip hunt you never seen before. But what do i know ... i m a dumb german with a cowbell 🤣🤣

My Tide is fine I love KD Grubbs surprise element oh baby offense exploded at Al already. KD is a boss we love you coach KD!

1:12:13 This is true of all of humanity. Always has been. Anyone who denies it is a liar.

The transfer portal problem with Bama isn't Bama related - it's timing and calendar. The portal opens only one way when your coach leaves. That's wrong whether it's Bama or Memphis State. But instead of discussing the issue and finding resolution, 90% of college fans and media just seem to want to mock Alabama for 'finally getting theirs.' Don't be naive, folks, NIL money and transfer is coming for your team too. This needs fixing and needs fixing quick.

They aren’t going to call their show “Bald Eagles Segment”?

Saying O'Brien was a good hire might be the biggest way to undercut yourself. You immediately had to make an excuse for the guy and I've never seen a more predictable and stubbornly garbage OC. 100% of plays from shotgun, 70-85% of runs are inside zones, maybe 2% play action, and 1st and goal from the 2 means 3-4 shotgun spread plays regardless of how little it work against top competition. I'd rather tap the custodian for my OC.

No, do not think that the loss of players is overblown. De Boerg has shown to be a good football coach but not a great recruiter.

@NoSerfdom

5 ай бұрын

Deboer may likely be great Xs and Os winning coach HOWEVER HE DESERVES HARSH CRITICISM for his botching of job#1 upon arrival at Bama: i.e. RETENTION of key staff and players most importantly DB coach and logical choice for DC Travaris Robinson. Somehow Deboer managed to alienate T-rob so badly in his first 24 hours that once he finally decided that he did want to hire T-rob as DC, T-rob turned him down to go to UGA for lower-level job and less money!! The loss of T-rob, and subsequent inability/unwillingness to bring in a proven premier DC, almost certainly is why Caleb Downs (GENERATIONAL TALENT), Trey Amos and Dezz Ricks all decided to leave. Moreover, both Zion Grady and Javion Hilson decommitted apparently because Deboer / his staff wound not simply communicate with them. Sure it's great to get Noah Carter, but that should not absolve Deboer of HARSH criticism for all this unnecessary attrition! It is beyond me how so many Bama fans and analysts can totally look past that. INEXCUSABLE!

Portal losses for Bama aren’t over yet, but it hasn’t been as bad as I thought it would be. The only way Bama could have lost Saban and not had a mass exodus was if they had a successor in place, and they’ve had such a hard time hiring good coordinators the past couple years there wasn’t a chance they could have a viable successor in place any time soon. Right now the team is still loaded and will certainly get some transfer help in the spring

@SS11660

5 ай бұрын

How could they have a successor when bama and Washington both in playoffs just weeks before. That would have been a major distraction to the teams.and a portal would have opened. What a mess. . a new coach was named in less than a week. Players would have gone anyway if they wanted to. Most went looking for playing time.

@QuiteAMouthfull

5 ай бұрын

@@SS11660 I just mean having an assistant already on staff that would be a viable replacement. Like if Saban retired in 2020 Sark would have been able to take over, or Kirby in 2014-2015. No one on Bama’s staff would have made sense to take over the job, but if they did have a good enough assistant and just elevated him instead of going with an outside hire there would be fewer players transfer out because the staff and system would still be in place. Notice there haven’t been any DL or RB transfers so far with Roach and Gillespie being retained.

@SS11660

5 ай бұрын

@QuiteAMouthfull agree mostly but this year there was not a qualified successor. And the new coach always needs to bring some of his staff To run his offense and defense since it will be different. We all want the best coaches and best players. Sometimes a shake up is good.

@QuiteAMouthfull

5 ай бұрын

@@SS11660 right, that’s what I was saying. The only way there wouldn’t have been a lot of transfers is if there had been an assistant on staff good enough to elevate to head coach, but there wasn’t.

“Pate’s Takes”

👍

GO BUCKEYES BEAT THE CHEATERS

The spring portal is not a difference maker. The players in that portal are mostly players who did not crack the starting lineups. So, no. What has happened to Alabama is devastating. There won’t be players the caliber of Downs popping into the lineup. It’s the Tyler Buchners of football that are in the spring portal.

I just don’t want to see sec playing each other early in the playoffs

It's real funny how this guy Josh Pate keeps talking about Bama folks and fans when he's the biggest damn fan anywhere, and he's one of these water cooler gossip Guys, and yes Kirby Smart plan failed but it was worth a try,,,,, hiring T Rob to get Downs ....I guess Kirby still didn't get the message from Downs original recruitment...Ohio State was runner up to Alabama... UGA was never in it...😂

Battle of the Balds

bama's roster is still a top 6-7 roster in all of college football

@RollinBamaBDm

5 ай бұрын

The starting 22 is the best in the country. Depth is a concern. League is tough. You better have bodies!

Josh....get a haircut.

All we heard was Nick Saban deserved coach of the year for how he salvaged this roster of “bums” but now the best of those “bums” went elsewhere and Saban isn’t there to coach the left overs up and Bama isn’t supposed to miss a beat?

Pate has been carrying water for Bama for over a week now. Some of you guys have been rubbing Saban, being the GOAT in our face for 15 years, and now want to act as if there will be no drop-off? Come-on! This past week has been a disaster over there. Alabama will still be a top-tier program, but there will be a drop-off. Just wait till he loses a game he's not supposed to. All hell will break loose!

Bama wins it all RTR

I don’t see how people watch this guy. I got sucked in by the title and Josh.

Ohio state will not be better with OBrien

@edandra615

5 ай бұрын

Yes they will!😅

@jamesniday9236

5 ай бұрын

Nor with day....Plus the narrative about their WR room is comical at best. They return guys who had a combined 60 catches..lol....IF Egbuka was/is as elite as delusional HOMERS say and think? He would be in the Draft in April. Tate is ok but they lost their most talented guy in Rogers. Innis is a turtle...The rest are mostly youth. Henderson?...see Egbuka....The OG and the 1st round??....See henderson...The 2 DE's? ...see The OG....This place is about to implode...Wait until they have to deal with the prima donna Judkins🤣🤣....The schedule is shit as usual.

For 40 years southern teams have had all the advantages and it led to winning titles. But, nothing stays the same and finally there is going to be the type of parity that made the NFL iconic.

The Alabama quitters are sickening.

@chef-bama283

5 ай бұрын

You wish and keep that same energy once the season start haters.

@daves4589

5 ай бұрын

So a kid develops a relationship with a coach. That coach up and retires so the kid goes elsewhere. That makes them sickening? Seems fair😂

@NoSerfdom

5 ай бұрын

What is sickening is Deboer's botching of job#1 i.e. RETENTION of key staff and players most importantly DB coach and logical choice for DC Tiverius Robinson. Somehow Deboer managed to alienate T-rob so badly in his first 24 hours that once he finally decided that he did want to hire T-rob as DC, T-rob turned him down to go to UGA for lower-level job and less money!! The loss of T-rob, and subsequent inability/unwillingness to bring in a proven premier DC, almost certainly is why Caleb Downs (GENERATIONAL TALENT), Trey Amos and Dezz Ricks all decided to leave. Moreover, both Zion Grady and Javion Hilson decommitted apparently because Deboer / his staff wound not simply communicate with them. Sure it's great to get Noah Carter, but that should not absolve Deboer of HARSH criticism for all this unnecessary attrition! It is beyond me how so many Bama fans and analysts can totally look past that. INEXCUSABLE!

Hey Cole, maybe you can get Josh to own up to it, but he broke his own rule of talking about winners first in 23 when Auburn beat Arkansas. Not only that but he never once talked about the winner. Just want him to admit it instead of glossing over it.

The SEC has been buying players for at least the last 3 or 4 decade. Hell maybe even 5 decades. Thats the MAIN way the got to where they are. You guys can pooh pooh that all you want but its been documented so many times its not funny. Josh wont admit it so he's very disingenuous. Truth. I know he doesn't like to hear that but the truth is plain as his shiny head.

@fuckcensorship69

5 ай бұрын

He did admit it. He said it is DIFFERENT now. Remember Auburn got Cam Newton for 180K. I'd argue he's the best college football player of all time. Now you have non starters making that much That is a HUGE DIFFERENCE

Of course Pate would only give the season a B+; there wasn't an SEC team who even made the final so of course there wasn't a "great" team. Absurd; this season was absolutely an A.

@michaellang4242

5 ай бұрын

Playoff committee knocked it down. The BCS was easily better than they rankings this year

Absolutely over reacting! Bama will be fine. Saban’s first season went 7-6 and he had slim talent on that team. The new coach is still inheriting a lot of studs even though a few have left.

Josh Pate is a Bammer

Holy ads

Not a over reaction. Bottom line Alabama will not be in top 3 in SEC. The truth hurts.

@jimmiegray480

5 ай бұрын

Hiw do know this far out expert?

This show is nothing but commercials

You are the only person in the world with jaws that stick out past their ears. Disgrace to Auburn.

What kind of grown man leaves Alabama to go to Iowa because he's homesick. Children get home sick. Adults take care of business.

@ThreadAndCircuses1

5 ай бұрын

Happens when you have no penalty for transferring. Most freshmen get homesick, but once you return to school for sophomore year, it goes away.

@jamesniday9236

5 ай бұрын

Girlie issues....But unless he would have been a big boy and agreed to kick inside? And he isnt very physical or agressive,with a LOT of bad weight. He would NEVER see the field as a LT in a KD/Grubb offense....

@SS11660

5 ай бұрын

$$$

@tylergangwer1809

5 ай бұрын

You act like Iowa isn’t an Offensive lineman factory lol….the dude is from Iowa lol and his ticket is already punched to the next level lol….maybe just maybe not everyone wants to play in the toxic ass south lol maybe he wanted to play on his home team and maybe he grew up dreaming of being a Hawkeye….🤷🏼‍♂️

Saban was from Ohio and the MAC and the BIG TEN!! So do the clowns fans in the sec think no-one can come there to coach! Can you say Urban Myers!!!!

Alabama is the third richest program behind OSU and Texas. If these want to play NIL ball, so can we

@Legendary_UA

5 ай бұрын

Auburn has tons more NIL resources than does Alabama

@jamesniday9236

5 ай бұрын

Nonsense...

@FusionOnYT_

5 ай бұрын

@@Legendary_UA literally incorrect

@FusionOnYT_

5 ай бұрын

@@jamesniday9236 google is your best friend

@FusionOnYT_

5 ай бұрын

@@Legendary_UA not even in the top 10

Great show