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@johnandrewfredrickson

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing these clips. It’s super helpful being able to watch in smaller chunks.

@dndinpodcast7234

5 жыл бұрын

Glad you broke some of this down.

@toutenunmot

3 жыл бұрын

Simple rule for the Univers: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aGSEmZlqZ5C-f7Q.html&t=845

@awdrifter3394

3 жыл бұрын

I remember his PS3 CFW.

@braylonderrick6927

3 жыл бұрын

i know I'm pretty off topic but does anyone know of a good place to watch new series online ?

After he said Coq I immediately scrolled to the comments

@snickle1980

3 жыл бұрын

😂I was going to leave a comment and the time stamp, but then I thought to myself..."You're 40 years old...This is an amazing topic...don't do it!" 😂 1:23

Title should be: Guy who loves coq tries to hack the simulation

I also study Coq after midnight

@jk_ordeanneil3783

4 жыл бұрын

Currently working on developing a Puccy platform.

@Korvxx

4 жыл бұрын

HA . GAY!

@Game-jv7ld

3 жыл бұрын

Duuude

@philiptheplant

4 ай бұрын

​@@jk_ordeanneil3783PuC++😂

I'm impressed by how quickly Lex clarifies what's going on after George says he learned coq.

Eccentric Coq programmer wants to live in the matrix. I’m with it

@halestorm123

4 жыл бұрын

He said he is going to get himself an apartment in a cloud in virtual reality

@iridescentfellow5740

4 жыл бұрын

He fell hard, now he will do anything to get back there, what strange eyes

If your girlfriend wants to learn programming - introduce her to Coq.

First interview question : Tell us your experience, i know coq.

@Consural

4 жыл бұрын

Then the interviewer asks for a demonstration.

@ReMeDy_TV

3 жыл бұрын

Lex wonders for a moment, then says, "Tell me more."

The middle schooler in all of us was laughing when he said "I learned coq"

@omniaveritas2427

2 жыл бұрын

your mother is fluent in that laguage too

This guy definitely works with Coq

@georgewbushcenterforintell147

5 жыл бұрын

How he says it without lol

@MrLikon7

4 жыл бұрын

@@georgewbushcenterforintell147 he mustve heard those jokes a hundred times...

@evictcalifornia2141

3 жыл бұрын

Haha this dude always smarter than everyone he meets

I hit the LIKE button after the first minute. What a brilliant answer to an opening question.

"something as complicated as the universe" but the simulation doesn't have to create something complicated, it only has to create the illusion of complexity in the subject (us).

@_Udaya_

3 жыл бұрын

When a tree falls in the woods when nobody is around, will it make a sound!

@diazpamor

3 жыл бұрын

he mentioned it could be quite simple too

@Lord-GURU

2 жыл бұрын

@@_Udaya_ is the woods even there if no-one is around?

@_Udaya_

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lord-GURU exactly 😉

@Lord-GURU

2 жыл бұрын

@@_Udaya_ 🤨

“1:21” - George Holtz

Lex, can I thank you for one thing in this video? The lighting.

This talk about living in a simulation reminds me of that TNG episode, 'Ship in a Bottle.' In the end, Professor Moriarty and his companion are tricked into believing that they are still in reality, but in fact, they were still in the simulation. Picard's statement about them, "They will live their lives, and never know any difference." I also like how Picard then muses that perhaps they too are in a simulation on someone else's desk. One thing is for sure, the simulation that Professor Moriarty was in was completely closed off from the 'real world', with no way for him to 'escape' that simulation. I suspect if we are living in a simulation, then we may be in a similar enclosed box physically closed off from the higher reality with no way of escaping.

@letsgocrypto4971

4 жыл бұрын

*sweats*

@diazpamor

3 жыл бұрын

i actually experienced breaking through to the other far away very here side on a LSD trip, Never felt such crazy since.

@GameOfLife55

2 жыл бұрын

@@diazpamor can you elaborate on what you experienced ?

@andylongboards

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully thoughts and plans to breakthrough continue

Right when he said "coq" I had to read the comments and I'm not disappointed

Thinking about the possibility of this sort of stuff makes me look at death in a different way.

@mrjamesprince

5 жыл бұрын

Same

@bruhaspati560

5 жыл бұрын

How??

@MusicAutomation

5 жыл бұрын

I think it is interesting to wonder that if we are in a simulation, would the creators have a sense of morality such that they consider virtual life to have the same rights as conscious beings outside the simulation? Would they have a digital afterlife for us? Or are we, to them, no more important than a bunch of flickering ones and zeros? Maybe they don't perceive our existence at all, because it's just an incomprehensibly massive sea of data. Maybe the purpose of their experiment has nothing at all to do with what we call life.

@HardKore5250

5 жыл бұрын

Mind uploading eternal life

@0Turbox

4 жыл бұрын

@@MusicAutomation Morality, isn't that a man made thing? Out of fear, bad things could happen to them self's. It's hard to believe, that a creator, who builds animals who eats/swallows others alive, had something, we call morality, in mind.

wait what just happened, this was the best video I have ever watched on youtube

I stopped doubting his competence after he said that studied coq. Real professional

These guys are on the next level.

one of the ways out of the "simulation" is the inward journey

@q-q-qiah

4 жыл бұрын

Go on with this concept please

@slayer4205

3 жыл бұрын

@@q-q-qiah he means meditation

@hustleup3840

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

Isn't moving to virtual reality just burrowing further down into the the simulation?

If you want to escape the simulation, you first have to build the simulation

@snickle1980

3 жыл бұрын

If you want to escape the simulation, You have to understand CoQ.

Idk if it’s intentional but the thumbnail makes them both look like video game characters lmao

Any idea looking into the depths of space (up is into)

"Let me in"

George Hotz is extremely sharp

i like how lex put up the 'coq' wiki as soon as he said it... just to make things clear

Living in the simulation of our ego?

To all the people going berserk over 1:21 . He is NOT mentioning the clinical term coma. He is mentioning about the company "comma ai"

If I were to hack the hologram, I might a accidentally turn water into whiskey.

We all get out of the simulation, in time. No point in rushing it

Complexity, feasibility and purpose are what hold the simulation theory as just a thought experiment

@PaddySlattery

Жыл бұрын

The "purpose" though... Such a human concept, narratively speaking. Like "whats the meaning of life?". This is probably the weakest element of the theory, imo.

If we are living in a simulation could someone tell me how to switch on the assists? Thanks.

@jumpinjohnnyruss

4 жыл бұрын

Pay lip service to the most popular religion in your region.

@dundeedolphin

4 жыл бұрын

@@jumpinjohnnyruss Tnat's cryptic enough to be real but not clear enough to be helpful. 😀

If you are inside a simulation you cannot hack it. You are invested into it. Talking about breaking out of simulation makes no sense. If it’s a simulation then the outside world surely will have a different nature and you’ll require a body suited for that world to live. It’s like assuming Mario will become self aware and decides to break out of the gaming console. It’s not possible. Not only Mario doesn’t look like us but he doesn’t even have a body to live outside the box. He’s digital In a similar fashion we cannot even imagine what is outside the simulation Just enjoy your life and hopefully you’ll wake up one day in the different reality and realise that you’ve been dreaming all this time or had a VR experience to learn things

@MusicAutomation

5 жыл бұрын

There could be one way. Possibly the outside lifeforms that created the simulation (to try to understand who created them and why) exist as digital lifeforms. They can move fluidly between the real world and various simulations. When they transition from a simulation, they upload into robotic hardware. If this were the case, and we exist as digital information, perhaps there would be a way to hack into their robotic hardware and explore the "real" world.

What does George say at 2:28?

@noelwoods7510

4 жыл бұрын

Sahil Trivedi Conways game kinda stuff, or something akin to that

The holes that lead outside the “simulation” may be our dreams and higher states of consciousness.

@kirstinstrand6292

4 жыл бұрын

I like this, and must contemplate. Given how excruciating it is to become fully Conscious, a "pay off" would be appreciated. Aside from Enlightenment.

@baghousetechnician9815

4 жыл бұрын

Like all.my psychedelic experiences

I’m trying to learn coq but it’s too hard

What if we live in a Universe that can be freely accessed, there is no perferct Universe nor perfect exploiter. What if?

If the makers of the simulation don't want information going in and out and they want it hack proof, they'll simply have it detect when someone has hacked it (because, by definition, it knows what everyone is doing and what they're experiencing). It will stop the simulation, fix how it got hacked, and then resume the simulation. The "hack" would always fail.

@tejassingh5344

Жыл бұрын

Except to detect that they've been hacked, they would have to already be aware of that particular vulnerability in their system, and if they were aware of it, they wouldn't have gotten hacked in the first place. So a mathematical proof is really the only way to guarantee that no information can transit between the simulation and their "world".

if we are in a simulation and no one can ever tell, does it necessarily matter?

With Covid I feel like we are I feel like I’m in a dream and I need a wake up

The hack is DMT. You can also jump back in time to different times in your life simply by think that but you can't retain future memory .

@snickle1980

3 жыл бұрын

what do you mean you "cant retain future memory?" you can go back and re-experience, but you cant take that experience with you?

@williammorse7415

3 жыл бұрын

@@snickle1980 sort of, you can jump but you basically void everything that happened from the point of reentry.

@williammorse7415

3 жыл бұрын

@@snickle1980 when you actually jump you return to that moment but everything that happens from that point forward is up to you and subject to change.

Now imagine our perception of size or direction (large/small up/down) was relative to our human understanding of it, but, outside this "simulation" (simulation of what now?) size and direction, like our basic societal understanding of time, was merely a concept. OK, I'm going to mass now.

yes

How do we know that thinking about getting into vr is actually thinking of escaping the simulation world.

You might not be able to jailbreak the hypervisor. But you might be able to hack into another running simulation.

Not religious but I grew up in India and it is funny how what he is talking about is basically the central theory of Hinduism that this universe is a simulation. And even if he thinks he is wrong he is basically talking about moksha and that principal giving us a meaning to life. Fascinating how given enough time different cultures and civilization's ideas can convergge.

There has never been any more nor any less energy in the universe, ever. Our brain is a controller of sorts that sends/receives signals and we’ve been allocated resources to manipulate the flow of energy, but we’re not actually making anything- just redirecting it to do our bidding. This to me seems like a design choice. By simulating energy, wouldn’t that put a non-traversable barrier between us and our creator? As long as we are using simulated reason built by simulated stimuli, how would we ever prove that we are ACTUALLY in a simulation?

@geminix365

10 ай бұрын

Ask Sims

Sophisticated systems are definitely prone to 'hacks' and exploits, however, that is true to systems created by average/descent coders at best. Might not be the same case with someone coding the whole universe.

agreed. the only purpose of a sim would be to study ancestors. it would defeat the purpose if the ancestors could detect they were inside a sim

@iwatchedthevideo7115

4 жыл бұрын

Why would an ancestor simulation be the only purpose? Couldn't it be for other research purposes or plain old fun? Maybe we are the Sims in some 14 year old basement dwelling Zaplorgians gaming rig. Stars are the new LEDs, yo.

How can a cartoon know that he is ina simulation? Easy: Waiting till the end and reading the credits.

@sytran666

4 жыл бұрын

Cartoon doesn't have free will, the characters are usually oblivious to the credits

Ai witin an AI, Matrix within a Matrix. The One ia one the way.

My cloud apartments are way better than my apartment in reality.

@ 1:23 rofl I'm sorry, I had to pause the video here because I have questions: First, who came up with that name? Second, why does that logo and color scheme look suspiciously like what it eludes to?

This coq thing sounds pretty big

Tech is getting smaller and smaller, why would we assume the machinery that the universe was simulated on would be large? Yet the same goes for the amount of power that is needed to run a simulation and the type of power. Our means of generating energy is substantially getting more advanced. Also, we don't know the rules of reality outside the simulation and if any of the same rules or constructs/materials exist.

It doesn't matter whether we are in simulation or not ...even if we are simulation then the base reality has to be there to have simulations in it.

@Lord-GURU

2 жыл бұрын

Well of course, it's just an interesting discussion

We are all 100% living in a simulation, each of us in our own simulation. Technology is just getting us more resolution, speed, and time to enjoy AI videos.

if we live in simulation than what is "not a simulation"

what do you mean

1:20 😲

@svempsvamp5796

4 жыл бұрын

It would have been perfect if at that moment Lex had been sipping from a cup of coffee, and did a huge spit-take.

@yash_renaissance_athlete

4 жыл бұрын

by the way, it's not COMA.. it's his company, "comma ai"

Lex, I don't think you took George seriously, it was kinda obvious that you were somewhat condescending to him. What George alluded is very connected to psychedelic experience, or even to mysticism (e.g. Kabbalah mentions how the multiverse is nothing but simulations one inside the other on multiple levels, ad-infinitum).

@GameOfLife55

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, can you explain what George was exactly trying to say ?

@lorcanoconnor6274

2 жыл бұрын

He's Sugondese

I want to have George and Elon in the same room 😅😅

I get that coq is a good meme but it seems like nobody is talking about tha actual video which is so interesting

Man I could go for a Pepsi

Whats the point of entertaining the simulation theory? In the end it doesn't matter because you't force yourself out of a simulation unless GIVEN the tools too. Also, what if the outside of the simulation is another simulation? The dilemma never ends, so why bother?

If you only know this theoretically, then you don't know it at all. Any less than a Dolphin knows what dry land is. To break out of a simulation, the dolphin would have to stop supposing what dry land would be like (using metaphors it is familiar with) and would have to actually make the jump - the experience the other reality. Humans don't need to do this, because we are able to experience other ways of being without physically making that shift. It's a leap of faith...

Why call it Coq? 😅

@elise9537

Жыл бұрын

2 years later nobody answered :) means rooster in French but still

A common misconception is that a simulation is only software based. One can influence bacterial and other growth and daily life and from bacterial pov they have no idea someone is modulating their reality. We can then simulate this bacterial world by manipulation parameters like growth medium concentration, introducing harmful chemicals, competition, space and many others. Now imagine doing so with worms. Then higher and higher organisms making sure we have some basic rules in place but are never observed. Even the environmental parameters can set to dynamic and we need mkt contol it aftrr a while. We the non participatory gods...lower organisms ..part of a simulation? based on our rules.

@gwills9337

4 жыл бұрын

OP is so confused...but nice try

Hi Lex, I want to be in your show, may be I am not qualified enough, but I want to be .😀

@snickle1980

3 жыл бұрын

OK! 😀"Today on our show, we have Some dude from the comment section! Let's get started! Do you think the comment section is a state of mind, a state of being...Or are we all CREATING the comment section as we go along in life? Do you think it's the destiny of all sentient creatures to one day experience the comment section? 😐 What if you could travel back in time through the comment section...Would you change anything about your previous comments? Do you believe that doing so would change who you are today, fundamentally, or will you always be the same "random dude in the comment section?" We're going to take a quick break and then we'll be back with Manish Kumar! The dude in the comment section! 😀

He learned Coq from his uncle.

The brain is already a simulator. So the right question would be do we simulate a simulated reality.

@rileykilgore3724

4 жыл бұрын

This also solves the problem of simulating an infinite universe, if you only simulate the perception of the universe the simulation can be dynamically scaled up and down at a finite level.

Can't help imagining that tunnel of light being the backdoor in or out. And heavy DMT inhalation = breaking through the 'filament' into a place that is 'really, real' or 'more real than this reality' hmm. The closed system model has a lot of implications too, such as allowing for some degree of free will, because why else would it be closed? I don't usually like the idea of the universe as a simulation because it still doesn't explain a lot, like are you trying to say we're stored in a virtual machine? I think this is a flawed idea because a 'machine' gives off the idea of rigidity and so it could easily break down or be damaged which would cause us to disappear and that is just ridiculous when considering the scale of the universe. Still, the use of the idea of a 'simulation' is a decent model to use when imagining what's out there when considering our limited understanding, or bottleneck of information processing.

Had a strange thought the other night about this simulation thingy. Computer games/real physics... When in game, the out side world, say if you are in a dungeon, is just code, until you are viewing it because the computer doesn't need to display it on the screen, until you are actually looking at it. They say, about Quantum Physics, Nothing is there until somebody is looking/measuring it....It was a strange thought that in the moment blew my fucking mind. WHAT IF WE ARE.....Are any of you people real? The mind boggles...EDIT.. AM I REAL?

I can get behind saying the universe behaves like a simulation. But saying there are creators, source code and a computer responsible for it is very speculative.

We're probably on emulator, not a simulator!

The part where he wanted to be in a simulation because of the dishwasher was great. We could all live amazing lives instead of the rat race struggle most people are living today

Prior to the movie "The Matrix" I remember once or twice perhaps thrice, someone mentioning that they thought we live in a situation. After the movie this futile existential exercise is idiotic. Bottom line we either live in a simulation or we don't. Is unfalsifiable either way. Like God is unfalsifiable either way. I am in the camp of we don't . So what right? Right. Exactly.

@TophoriMusic

4 жыл бұрын

HUH.

So at somepoint, in 2019 he smoked weed and became the current GeorgeHotz. Did this dude get him high after this interview?

An apartment or washing machine does not hold intrinsic value. It always relative to some measure. Unfortunately such a measure is not static. He should read up on hedonistic adaptation.

I read the comments first and was confused to why you all were so confused. First question* Lex: Do you think we’re living in a simulation ? “Mmm, yes, but it may be unfalsifiable.”

Coq looks hard.

This guy definitely smokes something from Uranus i suppose.

Whats the point of thinking reality isn't real? Its a "Turtles all the way down" regress

@moneypowertron

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed, it's effectively just as likely that the simulator universe is also simulated. George addresses this in the q&a of his SXSW talk. And nothing about the simulation argument makes claims to unreality or metaphysics.

@HardKore5250

5 жыл бұрын

What you mean?

@SleepyCity0001

4 жыл бұрын

That's just like asking what's the point of contemplating reality whatsoever. It's in our nature first of all, we want to know the answers even if they're out of reach. Two, ideas like these are very fun to play with because they can alter a person's perspective on life and therefore change their behavior and attitude towards it. And if we are living in a simulation, then our attitudes towards all kinds of things would change, like religion, culture, science, philosophy etc. And if this simulation were to be "hackable" then thatd be very interesting as well and would be good to know about so one could somehow use it to their advantage to advance further in life

@rumination2399

3 жыл бұрын

It does seem like the new tech religion and I find it fascinating how these tech people think this is so likely. Seems like a gnostic metaphor to me but it's possibly true. But then almost everthing is possibly true.

So if the universe is a simulation then who created it? Are they a simulation too, created by another even more powerful entity? Where does it end? Seems dangerously close to just believing that God created everything.

@chris_sndw

3 жыл бұрын

You created the simulation. And BTW your question also applies to dreams. If it is possible to dream how can you be sure your life is not exactly the same? Where is the start and the end?

@shrimpflea

3 жыл бұрын

@@chris_sndw Of course it applies to dreams. It applies to EVERYTHING and you can never to sure about anything.

Or they could have just limited our intelligence so that the simulation seems more complex than it is

I must be an NPC. This is because why would anyone want to experience my life with crippling mental health issues? But the question then is...why program NPCs to suffer?

@seatman

3 жыл бұрын

:(

When ur asleep unconciuos qualify leaving

Imagine you're an elf in world of warcraft,a very smart,intelligent elf. And you're asking yourself if you live in a simulation. What are the chances of elf knowing this answer,without stepping out of the simulation? There are ways of stepping out of this simulation. Browse youtube for name; Thomas Campbell and watch some lectures on subject.

#Yang2020

Reminds me of Quentin Tarantino. Weirdo genius

@diazpamor

3 жыл бұрын

not the only one ☝️

TFW it's not gay because we're living in a simulation.

You can't know so what's the point of discussing it?

Many comments here neglects the underlying facts with which he is saying all this.

Remember...is all in your brain.

Matrix is nested with at least 7 layers.

its funny how pepole think like this ..... wasn't anything like that b4 the film matrix .....

@maxkitzmuller1687

4 жыл бұрын

Matrix was inspired by this philosophy

@HarrisBeg

4 жыл бұрын

search up "Allegory of the cave" - this idea has been around for a while

Hotz is already sitting in one of the greatest apartments in the history of the world and still doesn't seem satisfied.