While hiking the Appalachian Trail I encountered two Germans. I shared the Gospel with them. Everything they said I heard in English. And they apparently where hearing what I said in German. About a week later I had another encounter with them and we where unable to communicate. Either they were pretending not to know English, or the Holy Spirit for the sake of the Gospel allowed us to converse in the first encounter

@AdventureSMBW

3 жыл бұрын

Ive heard a dozen stories like that

@redskyalice2529

3 жыл бұрын

Wow. I've heard of people speaking in other people's languages, but not from your perspective. You heard English while they heard German? That's awesome! Let God be glorified!

@edcarson3113

3 жыл бұрын

@@redskyalice2529 is that hearing in tongues ?

@Dallasgeri1

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree. This too is a gift from God. Just like how in acts 2 the apostles spoke out in tongues and the people round about heard it in their own dialect. I think that still happens today and I've heard stories of this happening and even in my own church. It's one of the points I was going to make in my initial comments but I don't have the scripture on hand. I'll search for the scripture if you are keen on hearing about it but there are, spoken in the bible, different gifts of tongues and in Corinthians it identifies a gift of tongues which is spoken into God and uttering mysteries by the spirit of God and no one understands them, not even the one speaking...your story simply doesn't fit into that category because even you know what it is that you said, so therefore because scripture is not contrary to itself, we must conclude the evidence of two types of speaking in tongues; one being different languages, and one being a spiritual language unknown to man and the man speaking. I'll have to get the scriptures if you want them, I'm not actually prepared for a debate or anything just sharing my thoughts but I can certainly link the passages. God Bless.

@redskyalice2529

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dallasgeri1 Yes, please. I'd be interested to hear. I think we more conservative types get a visceral reaction when people say it's THE SIGN of the Holy Spirit (ie. if you don't, you're not saved). That's not what the Bible teaches. But clearly, there is such a gift and I don't think it has "ceased'. However, I've seen demonstrations of it that seem pretty diabolical. I turned off it completely when a drunk person started speaking in tongues to me to show me they could. It was gibberish and that's what satan does. Then again, they've done the same with prophesy and the other gifts. However, clearly there are true gifts and I've seen quite a few myself such as the gift of healing of my mother of a small prayer in the lounge -ie not a Benny Hinn "concert" lol) However, I think it's time for me to revisit this chapter of tonques once again. Your thoughts are welcome. Thank you.

Precisely. Pastor Paul here speaks exactly my own convictions about the gift of tongues. I graduated from a charismatic high school and after more schooling, I travelled a lot and worshipped with many Christian denominations around the country, and so I've been in contact with many who claim to speak in tongues. I am friends with Christians from countries all around the world. I don't see anything today that even resembles the gift of tongues as described in the N.T.. Yet, I'm not willing to say the gift has ceased-who am I to declare such a thing? One passage does continue to baffle me concerning my own belief in this, and that's Acts 8:14-17. How did the Apostles know the Samaritan believers hadn't yet received the Spirit? The only indicator scripture gives that one has the Holy Spirit indwelling is the Fruit of the Spirit, and one or more of the gifts for service to the church. I do believe, being "filled" with the Spirit as in Ephesians 5:18 is something different than receiving the Spirit upon regeneration, because Paul is writing to Christians. This filling, I believe, is contingent upon our degree of yieldedness to the Spirit of Christ.

@Kazyman

3 жыл бұрын

Right on, SB. Thus the different takes & contentions when talking about The Holy Spirit. Like you, I am on the fence when it comes to 'talking in tongues.' On the one hand, we have declaration from Acts revealing the disciples of The Christ talking in each listener's own language, which is a far cry from the 'gibberish' sounding rants of evangelicals & the like when they 'talk' in tongues. On the other hand, we have time tested, solid pastors like Derek Prince who champion the phenomenon. Paul Washer is right, & I always say that being Christ-like (a REAL Christian), is impossible without The Holy Spirit residing in one's soul (the intellect) and spirit. I constantly implore Adonai to exorcise my will (demons) with His Holy will by way of His Holy Spirit, & this is precisely why I tell everyone that I am not 'Christ-like', or...a Christian. Howard Pittman (a pastor & NDE) gives great insight into some of the workings of the spiritual realm. I've talked to him twice & everything he's experienced can be verified. Try to search (here on YT), 'Placebo,' ~ Howard Pittman,' and see what you think. Some of what he says resonates with former secret society members (one of them being Roger Morneau) and ex elitists. May our Lord's peace be with you & yours.

May GOD bless preachers like Paul Washer. We have frightfully few in the modern churches of the West.

Pastor Derek Prince was a great Bible teacher, and he spoke in unknown tongue in some sermons. God fearing man he was. Love both the pastor, God uses both to help me.

@cassandrashaw1730

3 жыл бұрын

Derek Prince was a very early instigator of the NAR movement. I used to listen to him, I delete him now and if I'm wrong, I'm still saved.

@jacobjackson7013

3 жыл бұрын

This is why we with Gods Holy Spirit must learn from his word other than other men. 🙏

@JaviLpz116

3 жыл бұрын

@@cassandrashaw1730 He also taught about generational damnations, and that is a wrong doctrine as well

@Dolphin._.

3 жыл бұрын

@@JaviLpz116 why?

Love this response. One of love that promotes unity in the Body of Christ.

I’m aware there are a lot of falsified speaking in tongues and people who do it for selfish reasons, but the gifts are still there. But again pursue Love firstly and desire Spiritual gifts

@MrEvangelist777

3 жыл бұрын

Ben Sherwin. If these Apostolic gifts are still for today, why don't we see the dead raised? Why don't we see thousands fed with a few small loaves and fishes, why don't we see terrible storms at sea calmed by a command.? I have been to many healing crusades, and have never seen anything that I couldn't explain. I knew a brother in the Lord that died, and in the funeral parlour I saw half a dozen brothers lay hands on him and pray that he be raised, nothing happened, why. Tongues is the gift given by the Holy Spirit to believers, especially missionaries, to share the gospel in foreign lands, instead of first having to wait for several years to learn the Glossolalia, language.

@robotusan

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrEvangelist777 Yeah why have I seen people healed of diseases, blindness, deafness, and raised from the dead? Because the gifts are still for today.

@bensherwin2140

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrEvangelist777 I can’t explain why you haven’t seen these things but one thing I do know is that the disciples tried to cast out a demon from a boy but couldn’t even though they’d seen healings and performed healings before when Jesus sent them out with the 72. But nevertheless Jesus healed the boy. I think we have a pandemic of unbelief because so much false teaching has crept into the church. we barely know how to pray to God and see answer to prayer yet Jesus said ask and it shall be given. He’s not playing tricks on us, we need to seek God after the truth. The best thing we can do is get on our knees and let God speak . I don’t see anywhere in the Bible that says Tongues is specifically for that but it does say that one who speaks in a tongue edifies himself unless there is interpretation of tongues.

@jj-vf7wm

3 жыл бұрын

@NOLUTHANDO SIBUSISIWE Dludla Be aware of the gospel in Africa. There’s a lot of false teaching, prosperity Gospel things like the things Todd white teaches.

AMEN !!! Thank you, hearing the truth is so good to me... thank you Jesus

I agree that speaking in tongues means speaking foreign languages.

@debbiemcwilliams8289

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you, it says in the bible

@benjiman7

3 жыл бұрын

Why?

@benjiman7

3 жыл бұрын

@@debbiemcwilliams8289 where? (Genuine question for y’all , I am learning )

@leeburrows4160

3 жыл бұрын

@@benjiman7 go to acts 2

@farmlife09

3 жыл бұрын

So two questions if spiritual tongues are foreign languages then what language did the Holy Spirit give you as a gift when you received the Holy Spirit. For Paul says in 1 Corinthians 14:5 “I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be edified.” ‭‭ ( side note do you prophecy that the church may be edified as Paul desired to see). And two if tongues are forigen languages then what language is Paul speaking that NO MAN can interpret. “For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭14:2‬ ‭ I challenge you to read chapters 12-14 and just let the words speak. For them self. If you want you could say tongues are a foreign language of a country no man has seen a country that all who are in Christ belong to. But I personally see it more a keen to the language of a baby it make no sense to us or are selves but are father in heaven understands it and knows what we are saying. Tongues are real. And we should all speak in tongues don’t get tripped up on the teaching that only some have the gift and you can’t pull says when you all come together the context he is writing is when they are gathered together not all of them will do the same thing but they will do one thing. But another time they come together someone else will do it. This is what I have experienced I speak in tongues that I may be edified at home. Praying mysteries in the Holy Spirit that I don’t know. I have prophesied and had it confirmed that it came true of god. I have healed I have had prophetic words. But non of these at the same time. But we can all do them all as the Holy Spirit needs. Just read it from Paul mark how Paul describe tongues how he sees it used personally and for the body of Christ

This is a pretty good answer.

Isaiah 28:11 is where Apostle Paul quotes from in 1st Corinthians 14:21. "through stammering lips AND a foreign tongue"

I’m charismatic. I appreciate his answer. It was fair. The fullness of the spirit is the key. I only pray in tongues in private. I was told it was demonic. It isn’t but it’s misunderstood to that degree.

@Alexkearney

3 жыл бұрын

by that logic Paul was demonic!

@allenbates4163

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alexkearney I don’t understand what you’re saying. I don’t have it as a gift to use in an assembly. It’s not just a foreign language. People use it in prayer. That’s all I was saying.

@allenbates4163

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alexkearney Paul said, “I pray in the spirit and I pray with my understanding” That was my point.

@Alexkearney

3 жыл бұрын

I’m agreeing with you

@user-lv4ok9vo5o

3 жыл бұрын

When you pray in tongues, do you always know what you are saying, i.e., an interpretation?

Speaking in different tongues means different languages, hence the gentiles who spoke in different tongues.

While I disagree with some of his points I really appreciate how he worded everything. It was very gracious.

@benjaminsteele4640

3 жыл бұрын

What points do you disagree with?

@mayorrodgers7446

3 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminsteele4640 Good question. Thanks for asking. I guess there are 2 main ones. 1. Every time that tons is mentioned in the book of acts it is a phonetic language. That may be true but it doesn’t say that in the book of acts. The second point as an offshoot from that. He seems to think that there’s only one type of “tongues“ and that it is always a phonetic language. He mentioned first 1 Corinthians 14. Is that the only reason people didn’t understand it is because no one was there that speaks the language. Again he could be right but I just don’t see it in the passage. I personally see that there are different types of tongues that are spoken of in the Bible. He sees a difference. I don’t think these are major points. I fellowship with and appreciate many fine Christians that see it differently and I’m certainly not going to make it a “hill to die on“.

@wonyoung8179

3 жыл бұрын

@@mayorrodgers7446 there is only one type of tongues... and that is cleary defined in Acts 2... and Acts 2 must guide our understanding of 1 Corinthians 14... the straight forward passages must aid interpret the a bit obscure ones...

@Ridge1974

3 жыл бұрын

@@wonyoung8179 1 Corinthians 13:1 NKJV - Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. What about this verse?

@mayorrodgers7446

3 жыл бұрын

@@wonyoung8179 I’m interested to hear your understanding of 1 Cor. 14:15 What is it to “pray with the spirit”? Similarly; what is it to “sing in the spirit”?

There is a distinction between speaking in tongues as your prayer language received at the Baptism in the Holy Spirit which is for your personal edification as opposed to the Gift of Tongues listed among the 9 Gifts of the Spirit which is manifested for the building up of the body of Christ. Another important distinction is that The Gift of Tongues MUST be accompanied by the Gift of Interpretation so that the message in tongues is understood and the hearers edified. Whereas tongues as a prayer language is a speaking of secrets unto God and understood by no man. Which brings me to the third distinction. The direction of the Conmunication in the Gift of Tongues which must be accompanied by interpretation is downward, God Communicating with Man. Whereas the direction of the communication of our prayer language is upward, us speaking secrets unto God. Our prayer language is also available for us to utilise 24/7 . Paul said, 'I speak in tongues more than you all' 'Pray with the Spirit and pray with your understanding at all times' Whereas the Gift of Tongues is only available to us as the Spirit gives us utterance ie when God wants to bring a message to His people. These distinctions are important ones to understand I feel since these are two distinct operations of the Holy Spirit and the Confusion comes from believing they are one and the same manifestation. They are not !

@moniquekirton25

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Why would Paul be praying in the spirit more then all of them? When? For his own edification, not in a congregation. How do these Bible teachers not see that? I have nothing against Paul Washer and the other cessationists, because the false prophets such as K. Copeland, Todd White and all the NAR and Word of Faith people are false, but this aspect of Christianity is real.

@bradcouch457

5 ай бұрын

There is no mention of a "private prayer language" or a "heavenly language" in Scripture. That is a made up doctrine being used to justify the false Charismatic view of tongues.

Being a former skeptic about the gift of tongues myself I think I should be qualified to mention my thoughts on the matter. I used to believe in the same thing that this man is now talking about but have come to realise what a deception it is. I'd have to provide scriptures about tongues but for the moment I'll just briefly mention that it talks about tongues in several passages about it being an unknown tongue that isn't spoken to man but to God. Why would it be described that way if indeed tongues was an actual phonetic language? Paul the apostle must be had some criteria for believing that people either had or hadn't received the spirit of God and that sign must have been a physical manifestation of the spirit such as the gift of tongues. I don't see how he could have known otherwise, unless there was a sign. Furthermore, I have had experiences with tongues and confirmation from the Lord that it is real and from the spirit, our flesh however, being at war with the spirit wants to negate the reality of tongues and so to does the devil. That's why we are so eager to disbelieve in tongues. It's foreign to our flesh and we don't understand it, that's why we feel so awkward even talking about tongues. But regardless of all this, people still speak in tongues today including my self, they pray in the holy ghost and they get baptised and receive this gift from the spirit for confirmation of their indwelling of the spirit of God. I believe what we witness today about people's skepticism regarding tongues is nothing more than simply a deception which prevents us from entering the spiritual aspect of the faith and keeps people tightly locked in their flesh without any spirit. I say this because I too once believed this stuff and I can say confidently that I was dead wrong about tongues and that it is indeed from God. amen.

@rubygriffin2558

3 жыл бұрын

I’m glad that you posted this. I had to Selah then reflect on the word of God. 1 Corinthians 12:10, & 28 states that the gift of tongues can be different “kinds” of tongues. I think that, that means variety. For instance, Romans 8:26 & 27 shows the Spirit intercedes through inexpressible groans it makes me wonder if that can be interpreted as a kind of tongues as well? Thanks! Iron sharpens iron.💖

@beenfedup2468

3 жыл бұрын

Flakes Sorry but I spent 16 years in a church where they also claim tongues and they claim tongues is the only way to tail that you have truly been born again it’s a lie and it’s Satan‘s lie because if you look at the scripture where Paul says though I speak with tongues of angels or men or understand all mysteries and had faith to move mountains with charity (love) he is nothing it’s called hyperbole because you can’t name one of those things that Paul said he ever done he has not moved a mountain he has not been burned he does not understand all mysteries and he does not speak in the tongues of angels I will explain it to you like I explain it to other people Jesus prayed to his father his disciples asked him how to do that and he gave them an outline in plain to understand language correct me if I’m wrong The Scriptures do not say he babbled he flopped in the floor his eyes rolled back in his head he bounced all over the walls as a matter fact I will point that to what happens when someone is demon possessed So again do not be fooled by Satan because that’s exactly what he wants

@rubygriffin2558

3 жыл бұрын

@@beenfedup2468 Well Flakes isn't saying that to speak in tongues is to act in ways that cause you to roll around on the ground. I think that person is saying that tongues does exist and it doesn't only exist through foreign languages. They said it can be used in prayer in warring against the devil by the Holy Spirit. Natural prayer can be used in such a way as well. I think the main reason for prayer in any form is to communicate with our Father. 💖

@lab9998

3 жыл бұрын

@@beenfedup2468 hi. I hear you. You have been in a similar church to the one i was in (and still sort of am in) for 35 years. You are correct. What that church has told you is indeed a lie. Speaking in tongues is not the only evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit and people do behave in unscriptural ways when they are apparently manifesting the Spirit of God. However, I believe that tongues (whether unknown languages or foreign languages) do exist and there is no biblical evidence that they have or should have stopped. But yes, they have been terribly faked and "the church" has a lot to answer for. I would urge you to seek the Holy Spirit directly on this matter rather than your natural experience. He will guide, one way or the other. God bless you brother.

@syncchronicity

3 жыл бұрын

Flakes: people's skepticism regarding tongues is due, many times, to people's need to stay close to the truth of God. There are two phenomenas that can be regarded as "speaking in tongues": xenoglossy and glossolalia. Xenoglossy = spontaneously speaking in real languages without knowing them / Glossolalia = generating unidentifiable noises as a result of extasy. We see the first one in the Bible bringing glory to God as a sign to Jewish people that God's redemption was for other nations too (a reunification as opposed to what happened at Babel). There's no reference to the fact that Paul had or needed to have signs, by the way. Glossolalia, on the other hand... Has no evidence in the Bible except for a hyperbole. It's very common, though, among other religions, shamanism and occultism. So I sincerely recommend, from the love that Christ showed me, that you examine VERY carefully what you're dealing with. Whoever you are, I care about you. There are many things that can be said, but I don't even know if you're reading this. I just encourage you to study the Bible in depth, and don't rely on your experiences. There is experience that comes with it, sure, but it flows out of the Word of God, with our Lord as foundation. If not, there can only be confusion. There are many experiences out there that claim to be godly. Experience does not come first, and does not replace the Word, and if you think experience is more important than what is written, then... Well, hinduists, and atheists, and new age gurus all agree. I also recommend Fernand Legrand's book "I speak in tongues more than you all". He actually believed in tongues for years and then realized he was wrong, so he might have something to say about it. Love you brother, take care. May the Spirit of God guide you. (sorry, I don't really speak English)

I love how people that have never spoken in tongues, who lead a group of people who have never spoken in tongues know all about ”speaking in tongues” 😂

@jerome620

3 жыл бұрын

I think you missed the part where Paul explained that what people today, particularly in the charismatic church, describe as speaking in tongues is just gibberish. I spent several years in a charismatic church and watched this nonsense first hand. The scripture is our guide to what is of God and what is not. And nowhere in scripture do you find the Apostles uttering gibberish. What is supported by scripture is that everything God does has a purpose. So ask yourself this, what purpose does it serve for someone to speak nonsense in front of a bunch of people, and nobody understands it, not even the person who spoke it? This is not of God, it's people playing fast and loose with the text to make themselves feel more holy. It's vanity.

@AdventureSMBW

3 жыл бұрын

@@jerome620 Assuming you only know 1 or 2 languages, how do you distinghuish between gibberish and authentic language?

@HiVisl

3 жыл бұрын

@@jerome620 Like I said, people who don't speak in tongues who lead a congregation who don't speak in tongues, know all about "speaking in tongues". Oh, the irony.

@forg1vens1nner58

3 жыл бұрын

Well... the Bible tells you EXACTLY what speaking in tongues is and it’s purpose.😂

@HiVisl

3 жыл бұрын

@@forg1vens1nner58 And Paul speaks in tongues more than "all of you"....Clearly your ignorance guides you as effectively as it always has 😂 A professional in hot air 😁

God's word said in 1 Corithians 14.2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not to man , but unto God . For no man understandeth him , howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. The reason why no one can interpret the unkown tongue it because he or she is speaking to God and only he can understand what the spirit of that person is saying.

@jerome620

3 жыл бұрын

The phrase "unknown tongue" is not referring to the gibberish we hear in charismatic churches today. It is also not exclusionary of phonetic languages. What if you were to suddenly start speaking in ancient Sumerian, but you didn't know that's what it was, nor was there anyone around who did? To everyone in the room, that's an unknown language. Yet, you're speaking real words that have specific meaning. Also, of great import here is that you're quoting from the KJV. The word "unknown" is added to the text. It does not actually appear in the original Greek. The KJV is also the only translation in which the word "unknown" is used. Other translations that add to the text use the word "another". This is an example of the handful of errors in the KJV, which is a thought-for-thought translation, and an example of why word-for-word translations like the ESV and NASB tend to be better for sorting out these difficult doctrinal issues. In the broader context of 1 Corinthians 14, if you continue reading beyond verse 2, Paul goes back and forth between using the singular and plural of "tongue". He calls specific attention to the known languages of the world in verse 10. Furthermore, he continues and explains that if you're speaking in front of the congregation in a language that nobody understands, what benefit is that to anyone? For the rest of the chapter, Paul is hammering this point home until he finally makes clear his point in verses 22-25. God does not do anything without purpose. The scripture makes this clear. So I ask you, what purpose is served by a gift of the Holy Spirit which allows you to speak in a language that noone, not even you, understands? This is a complete misunderstanding of the text resulting in a false teaching.

@Anu.N

3 жыл бұрын

@@jerome620 "He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself" 1 Corinthians 14:4

@tyzac9788

3 жыл бұрын

@@jerome620 how are we sure that those speaking in tongues are speaking gibberish? I am not saying that everything we hear in charismatic circles are the genuine tongues but the scriptures does state that when we speak in a tongue, we might not understand it but the spirit is benefited. “For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding.” ‭‭I Corinthians‬ ‭14:14-15‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ I think we should not be quick to call everything we do not understand as ‘false teaching’.

@boirap99

3 жыл бұрын

@@tyzac9788 I SO AGREE!...leave the judging to Jesus....simply put...I was taught wen u speak & pray in tongues is so that the evil CAN NOT understand your prayer...simply as that is the way I jus recently learned to do it in the past couple years... I hear of people talking all different reasons and thoughts of tongues ....INTERESTING CHECK THIS OUT...so our pastor would tell us to say maybe a couple word phrase,... so let’s say we chose “thank you Jesus thank you Jesus thank you Jesus”... jus keep saying it trying to go faster and faster...as you’re saying that you start saying your prayer but in that phrase(?)....then when you let yourself go the Holyspirit jus takes you deeply and the tongues jus becomes so natural , I myself felt it it was trippy but GOOD...interesting things I’ve come to learn in such a tiny church in not even two years I’ve found that church has made me understand MORE!…THANKS BE TO GOD!

@tyzac9788

3 жыл бұрын

@@boirap99 Not sure I understand exactly what you meant. If someone is being taught to repeat phrases and thus ‘learn’ to speak in tongues, I think that is not genuine. The true gift cannot be taught by repeating phrases. Let the Lord decide how the gift should be manifested instead of forcing it on someone.

Paul says there MUST be an interpreter. I was taught if someone is ACTUALLY speaking in tongues, there will be an interpreter.

@TheChukwuntaFamily356

3 жыл бұрын

He was referring to speaking in tongues in a gathering like church service in 2 Corinthians14: 26-28. So that there will be good order in worship. In verse 18 he says 'I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you', and in verse 39 he commanded...'Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues'. I Corinthians14:14, reveals the purpose speaking in tongues....'For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful'. The mind is unfruitful because it doesn't understand but the Spirit do understand what is being spoken or communicated. Verse 2.. 'For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit. The purpose of church gathering is for the edification of the church, so speaking in tongues without an interpreter will not achieve this purpose.

@brucemurray121

3 жыл бұрын

There is no designated interpreter. Interpretation is also listed as a gift, the same as tongues.

@danschultz999

3 жыл бұрын

@@brucemurray121 That wasnt even in dispute....

@brucemurray121

3 жыл бұрын

@@danschultz999 You stated that there "will be an interpreter". That is not so. What is implied is that if someone speaks in tongues in church and there is no interpretation then no one else is to speak in tongues for the rest of the service. No one knows if there is going to be an interpreter . The interpretation of tongues is listed in the same list as speaking in tongues and operates the same as tongues except the interpretation is in the common language of the congregation.

@danschultz999

3 жыл бұрын

@@brucemurray121 Check these few paragraphs out. I am of the belief Tongues werent meant to last longer than the founding of the CHURCH. The Gift of Tongues was a divinely bestowed supernatural ability to speak in a human language that had not been learned by the one speaking. According to the Apostle Paul, when believers exercised the gift of tongues in church, they were to speak one at a time, and only two or three were to speak in a given service (1 Cor. 14:27). Furthermore, when tongues were spoken in the church, they were to be interpreted by someone with the gift of interpretation so that the others might be edified by the God-given message (1 Cor. 14:5, 13, 27). In this way, tongues did not serve as a private prayer language, but rather-like all spiritual gifts-as a means by which one might serve and edify the body of Christ (1 Cor. 12:7; 1 Pet. 4:10). Tongues “Will Cease” In 1 Corinthians 13:8 Paul made an interesting, almost startling, statement: “Love never fails; but if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away.” In the expression “love never fails,” the Greek word translated “fails” means “to decay” or “to be abolished.” Paul was not saying that love is invincible or that it cannot be rejected. He was saying that love is eternal-that it will be applicable forever and will never be passé. Tongues, however, “will cease.” The Greek verb used in 1 Corinthians 13:8 means “to cease permanently,” and implies that when tongues ceased, they would never start up again. Here is the question that this passage poses for the contemporary charismatic movement: if tongues were supposed to cease, has that already happened, or is it yet future? Charismatic believers insist that none of the gifts have ceased yet, so the cessation of tongues is yet future. Most non-charismatics insist that tongues have already ceased, passing away with the apostolic age. Who is right? It should be noted that 1 Corinthians 13:8 itself does not say when tongues were to cease. Although 1 Corinthians 13:9-10 teaches that prophecy and knowledge will cease when the “perfect” (i.e., the eternal state) comes, the language of the passage-particularly the middle voice of the Greek verb translated “will cease”-puts tongues in a category apart from these gifts. Paul writes that while prophecy and knowledge will be “done away” (passive voice) by “the perfect,” the gift of tongues “will cease” in and of itself (middle voice) prior to the time that “the perfect” arrives. When did this cessation of tongues take place? The evidence of Scripture and history indicate that tongues ceased in the apostolic age. Evidence from Scripture What biblical or theological evidence is there that tongues have ceased? First, the gift of tongues was a miraculous, revelatory gift, and the age of miracles and revelation ended with the apostles. The last recorded miracles in the New Testament occurred around A.D. 58, with the healings on the island of Malta (Acts 28:7-10). From A.D. 58 to 96, when John finished the book of Revelation, no miracle is recorded. Miracle gifts like tongues and healing are mentioned only in 1 Corinthians, an early epistle. Two later epistles, Ephesians and Romans, both discuss gifts of the Spirit at length-but no mention is made of the miraculous gifts. By that time miracles were already looked on as something in the past (Heb. 2:3-4). Apostolic authority and the apostolic message needed no further confirmation. Before the first century ended, the entire New Testament had been written and was circulating through the churches. Charismatic believers insist that none of the gifts have ceased… non-charismatics insist that tongues have already ceased.… Who is right? The revelatory gifts had ceased to serve any purpose. And when the apostolic age ended with the death of the Apostle John, the signs that identified the apostles had already become moot (cf. 2 Cor. 12:12). Second, tongues were intended as a sign to unbelieving Israel (1 Cor. 14:21-22; cf. Is. 28:11-12). They signified that God had begun a new work that encompassed the Gentiles. The Lord would now speak to all nations in all languages. The barriers were down. And so the gift of languages symbolized not only the curse of God on a disobedient nation, but also the blessing of God on the whole world. Tongues were therefore a sign of transition between the Old and New Covenants. With the establishment of the church, a new day had dawned for the people of God. God would speak in all languages. But once the period of transition was past, the sign was no longer necessary. Third, the gift of tongues was inferior to other gifts. It was given primarily as a sign (1 Cor. 14:22) and was also easily misused to edify self (1 Cor. 14:4). The church meets for the edification of the body, not self-gratification or personal experience-seeking. Therefore, tongues had limited usefulness in the church, and so it was never intended to be a permanent gift. The Evidence from History The evidence of history also indicates that tongues have ceased. It is significant that tongues are mentioned only in the earliest books of the New Testament. Paul wrote at least twelve epistles after 1 Corinthians and never mentioned tongues again. Peter never mentioned tongues; James never mentioned tongues; John never mentioned tongues; neither did Jude. Tongues appeared only briefly in Acts and 1 Corinthians as the new message of the gospel was being spread. But once the church was established, tongues were gone. They stopped. The later books of the New Testament do not mention tongues again, and neither did anyone in the post-apostolic age. Chrysostom and Augustine-the greatest theologians of the eastern and western churches-considered tongues obsolete. Writing in the fourth century, Chrysostom stated categorically that tongues had ceased by his time and described the gift as an obscure practice. Augustine referred to tongues as a sign that was adapted to the apostolic age. In fact, during the first five hundred years of the church, the only people who claimed to have spoken in tongues were followers of Montanus, who was branded as a heretic. The next time any significant tongues-speaking movement arose within Christianity was in the late seventeenth century. A group of militant Protestants in the Cevennes region of southern France began to prophecy, experience visions, and speak in tongues. The group, sometimes called the Cevennol prophets, is remembered for its political and military activities, not its spiritual legacy. Most of their prophecies went unfulfilled. They were rabidly anti-Roman Catholic, and advocated the use of armed force against the Roman Catholic church. Many of them were consequently persecuted and killed by Rome.

One of the errors of cessationists including our dear Paul Washer is they use illogical arguments to disprove the gift of tongues. Going by what Paul Washer said about 1 Cor 14, if a preacher is in a gathering of Russian people, why will the Holy Spirit give you the utterance of another language but french?? It makes no sense. If it was just a known language, why will the Bible say there should be an interpreter since he would be talking to them in their own language?? Reading 1 Cor 14 in it's entirety, it makes no sense whatsoever if Paul was talking about a known or foreign language here like for instance, why would an unbeliever come in and think a church speaking in French is mad???. You can also see how he just disproved what Paul said in 1 Cor 13 about tongues of Angel's by saying he was exaggerating there, going by his logic, I could also say "if I have a big house, I'll invite you in" and we know that's not exaggeration and Paul could've also meant that in the passage. If it was just an ordinary language, why would the Bible also say that it's a mysterious language(1Cor 14:2) that "only" God understands??. I believe there are two types of tongues. 1. The known or foreign tongues like the one in Acts where it's understood by people, I believe this one should be for preaching to other people especially foreign people and 2. The Heavenly/Angelic tongues, I believe this one is for your personal prayer, I think it's this one Paul was saying there should be an interpreter for if incase it be spoken in church where unbelievers are but if there is no interpreter, it shouldn't be spoken in church. Even though it's often faked, it doesn't affect the real thing and this is why people like Paul Washer do not want to believe it is real and also because it sounds unintelligible to the human mind because it isn't meant for them but for God. I believe when Paul said he spoke in tongues more than the people in 1Cor 14:18‐19, he was talking about prayer, he spoke more in tongues in his personal prayer than the others. At the end of the day, what I see is the problem is a person telling other people what they are doing is fake even though he himself hasnt experienced for himsel. If you haven't experienced the gift of tongues, how can you tell another person who has it is fake??

@leeroynchinda433

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

@howto-ln9rs

3 жыл бұрын

I listen his preaching and it's really good... However I didn't know he doesn't speak or believe in it 😲 I prayed for it and God gave me it 🙌🏿 so I'm guessing that he never ask for it because he don't even believe he will get it 🤦🏾‍♂️... I see lil kids get the gift of tongues and big Preachers don't because they don't believe 🤦🏾‍♂️

@mathewsk437

3 жыл бұрын

@@howto-ln9rs He is a very good teacher with the Holy Spirit but I just don't buy this one

Very thoughtful response by Paul Washer

My husband knows somebody personally that has experienced speaking in tongues which somebody else heard and it happen to be his own foreign language and he said that the man speaking in tongues was glorifying God. Tongues still happen today. The Holy Spirt has not ceased therefor the gifts have not ceased either. There are many known incidences that this has happened. 1 Cor 14 talks about speaking in tongues, but also praying in tongues to edify one self. Paul said he spoke in tongues more than the others, but would rather not do that in church, but privately between himself and God. He said it edifies a person. The mind is unfruitful, but the spirit gets edified. This is different from speaking out in tongues in a congregation this is for personal prayer edification. I experience that for myself. I was prayed for to receive the infilling of the Holy Spirit. I did not experience the praying in tongues then, but weeks later when I was in bed. I was praying and all of a sudden my hands raised up and I felt a power enter me and I started to pray out in tongues. Somebody tell me what that was then. I pray in tongues a lot for self edification as described in 1 Cor 14. And I tell you , it often lifts my spirits. Now if this is false then I pray for God to remove from me whatever I received that evening in bed. I do not believe in the hyper charismatic stuff. I am dead set against people like Bill Johnson, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Todd White and the like, but this part of my walk with the Lord is real. What is praying in the spirit then? It says to pray in the spirit and in the understanding also and sing praises in the spirit and in the understanding also.

My conviction according to scripture is we should desire spiritual Gifts especially to prophesy.

Amen!

You can speak in tongues, you can have faith to remove mountains, and you can have hope to believe in all things; but if you don't have love, you are nothing. [ 1 corinthians 13 ] If you know that love is greater than faith, hope, and speaking in tongues, why not seek after love?

I absolutely agree that speaking in tongues is a foreign language. I went to a Marilyn Hickey convention and at the end we were all taken to a room to be taught to speak in tongues. It didn't flow well with me.

@sauravgupta7415

3 жыл бұрын

@NicoCoco And the same people spend their whole life on tongues and tongues and tongues and the Gospel takes a back seat.

@sauravgupta7415

3 жыл бұрын

@NicoCoco Correct. However Spiritual healing is greater than Physical healing. Tell your coworker that the purpose of Jesus was Spiritual Healing.

Thank you for an honest and biblical answer

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3 жыл бұрын

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If the Holy Spirit gives us different gifts then why do the charismatics Insist that “everyone”should speak in tongues? Non-biblical

@AdventureSMBW

3 жыл бұрын

Well, the "Gift" of tongues is the ability to address the congregation in a different language. If there's no interpretation, it doesn't say they should stop speaking in tongues or that their tongue is fake, but rather are told to keep it between them and God. In other words, they authentically speak in tongues but do not possess the "gift" of addressing others in tongues. I don't think its correct to expect every Christian to end up speaking in tongues, but i dont think its unreasonable to hope for it, as most outpourings of the Spirit in Acts were accompanied by the crowds speaking in tongues. Just my 2 cents!

@lilpoohbear653

3 жыл бұрын

@@AdventureSMBW praying in tongues and the gift of tongues are two different things. Praying in tongues is not to speak to men but to God...here is the Bible on this issue : I Corinthians...27] If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. [28] But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. [29] Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

@lilpoohbear653

3 жыл бұрын

@@AdventureSMBW I Corinthians 14:2...For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men, but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries in the Spirit

@ramirami2193

3 жыл бұрын

@Rusty it is because the in the word of God(the bible) every person who was baptised into the Holy Spirit spoke in tongues.

@AdventureSMBW

3 жыл бұрын

@@lilpoohbear653 I think we are saying the same thing, just in different ways. I agree with you! :)

yes!! tongues = language. There must be an interpreter. I've been saying this for so long! Ty!

@user-lv4ok9vo5o

3 жыл бұрын

Must there be an interpreter if you are alone speaking in tongues?

@maranathahallejuiah8545

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-lv4ok9vo5o Hi Dan, Happy New Year to you. The apostle Paul tells us this about the subject in 1 Cor 14:27 If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret. 28 But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church and speak to himself and to God. blessings, Mar

@user-lv4ok9vo5o

3 жыл бұрын

Some people say they speak in tongues when alone.

Chuck Smith (Calvary Chapel) spoke in Greek before he learned Greek, and his wife (Kay) spoke in French, though she did not know French. These were people who did not fake anything. Speaking in tongues is speaking in an actual language that is not known to the speaker, and can certainly happen today.

Amen.

Here is the truth. 🙏

Paul W has great passion and insight on some topics. On this topic I think he walks by sight not faith or more so by Baptist doctrine. He hasn’t or won’t allow himself to experience it so it’s not right. He starts with “give me a hard question ha ha”. No it is not hard it’s very easy scripturally if one is not conditioned against it. In brief, is God the same yesterday today forever more? Yes. Is God a respecter of persons? No. Thus what was available to Jesus, Paul, Peter etc is available to us, we are meant to imitate Jesus. Does the bible record Jesus speaking in tongues? No. Did He. I believe if He walked in the fullness of God and in Him dwelled all the fullness of the God head bodily and thus with complete fullness of Holy Spirit, then why would He not have spoken in tongues, a gift of God. He was always drawing aside to pray etc. Yes tongues can be an unknown foreign language to minister the Gospel. But Paul also says that he speaks in tongues more than any of you (I Corinth 14), when admonishing the Corinthians to be orderly. He didn’t say you are not speaking in tongues of the Holy Spirit so be quiet! Also why in a Corinthian meeting would they all need to be speaking out in various languages in Corinth? etc. Paul was fluent in multiple languages so when he preached, he could (at least usually / most of the time at worst, all the time more likely) speak to his recipients in their language. So he therefore had no need to speak in an unknown tongue that the locals could understand his message. Thus his speaking in tongues more than anyone was regarding personal edification and exaltation of God and was not about ministering the gospel to others. Thus the origin of the language is irrelevant whether earthly or spiritual as it is his Spirit edifying God and building Paul up as Holy Spirit gives him the utterance. Thus because Paul Washer has or won’t allow himself to receive this gift, Holy Spirit won’t force him. One must still speak but Holy Spirit is the source of the language. If Paul W gets a birthday present and doesn’t want to receive it and open it, then does that mean the person who gave it to him did not give him the gift? Absolutely not. Any form of cessationist theory is false. As stated, God is the same yesterday, today, forevermore. Does some parts of the church misuse anything to do with God? All churches do in some way, not just charismatics. Read your Word and ask YOUR Teacher, Holy Spirit whom God sent to teach you. Get over religion and get intimate. Stop running to “super” Christians for leading. Follow Jesus. He will then confirm what He is teaching you by telling you which men to listen to. Have a good day.

@kb27787

3 жыл бұрын

"Get over religion and get intimate" Really? I never thought one would have issues with visiting orphans and widows and keeping oneself unspotted from the world. I am no cessationist, but I will say most (like 99.99999%) of the stuff out there are from men and women who speak in tongues definitely do not speak from the Holy Spirit, as they teach things contrary to Scripture.

@dubyag4124

3 жыл бұрын

The Bible clearly teaches not all believers have the same gifts - if your belief of tongues is that it should come to all believers, you're simply unbiblical. I also am not a cessationist.

@billybynorth7467

3 жыл бұрын

Complete crap, I especially liked you using the word utterance there to get your vain gobbledegook across.

Why does it always sound like Paul Washer is about to cry?

@TheExilarius

3 жыл бұрын

Hahah I was thinking the same thing.

@jackiegdomingo

3 жыл бұрын

That’s why it’s called Heart Cry

@markscheinfeld3020

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for mentioning that point. I think he has some kind of neurological disease, maybe parkinsons or multiple sclerosis. I have watch this "crying" increase over the years. Whether he knows or not, I do not know. Thanx, cuz it bothers me cuz I am concerned for him.

The Apostle Paul said that prophecy and tongues will cease when we get to heaven. If you read the end of 1 Corinthians 12 in context then you will understand this. But I totally agree that there are some radical people who think they’re speaking in tongues but they aren’t.

@jennahannigan7117

3 жыл бұрын

Heaven doesn't come until after judgement and we dwell with God. The Book of Revelations speaks that after the after the second coming of Christ... and the apocalypse that is to come that saints will live with Christ for a thousand years of peace and then Satan will be released again into the world for a little time....and then final judgment comes and the new earth and heaven. Tongues still is very much alive. Unfortunately so many people are very close minded.

This man has just given sound biblical advce.

@mathewsk437

3 жыл бұрын

Nope he didn't, there's a thing like heavenly language

@kevinhuddleston4219

3 жыл бұрын

Think again. There are men with a gift of healing as I have been healed by such a man with this blessing its not his ability to be exact if course the power is from the Lord, but works though him as he applies his calling and is obedient.

@sauravgupta7415

3 жыл бұрын

@@mathewsk437 There are 1000x such things in heaven. Lets focus on sharing the Gospel with everyone with our life and that will be greater than any tongue or any possible gift from God.

@mathewsk437

3 жыл бұрын

@@sauravgupta7415 we know that's our job as Christians but I'm trying to correct others who believe Paul didn't talk about Heavenly tongues

""I think she rode a honda, ithinksherodeahonda" - dang, that was funny lolol! Guess that's exactly what it sounds like haha

@AdventureSMBW

3 жыл бұрын

Do you have any idea how many languages there are in the world? Ishouldboughtahonda could mean "Glory to God" in a western Indian dialect. Don't mock what comes out of people's mouths until you learn every phonetic language on the face of the earth.

@CasperLCat

3 жыл бұрын

Washer is dead wrong on tongues. It sounds like “I wanna buy a Hyundai ! “. Not what he said. Let’s get it straight !

@forg1vens1nner58

3 жыл бұрын

JD Langton or “I hate God” with all these fake “tongues” lol

@redskyalice2529

3 жыл бұрын

@@AdventureSMBW I actually meant no disrespect honestly. It was unexpectedly funny. Did not expect that to come out of his mouth. But you're absolutely right. I have been a Christian for over 20 years and I still pray for God to give me understanding. So I really apologize if I've offended you or anyone. Actually I've seen miracles with people praying in tongues, but I do not believe it is the only "sign of the Holy Spirit", the fruits of the Spirit are. Best

AMEN PASTOR SAID WELL. He is correct TEST THE SPIRIT SPEAK IN TOUNGES IN JESUS WORDS. THE ABUNDANCE OF THE HEART THE MOUTH SPEAKS THE HOLY SPIRIT LEADS. SPEAK IN TONGUES WHICH A WORSHIPPER OF GOD KNOW ABOUT IN MANY WAYS THAT ONLY GOD SEES IN THEIR HEARTS WHICH EXALT GOD AND GLORIFIED GOD ANY LANGUAGE EVEN A MELODY EVEN HUMMING SPIRIT LEADS SPIRIT KNEW ANY LANGUAGES IN ALL NATIONS GOD BLESS.

The only difference i have with him is experiential, not doctrinal. I HAVE seen that in places, whereas he has not, which is fine. Super quick example for those who care.. A friend of mine was open-air preaching in NYC a few years ago. She paused for a moment then began speaking a different language into the microphone for about 5 minutes. The crowd was confused. After the 5 minutes, she continued in english. About 10 minutes later, 2 women came running up to her with tears in their eyes. The younger one explained they heard the preaching from the statue of liberty. She asked where the person preaching in French was. My friend told her it was her, but she was unaware what language she was speaking. The young woman said "My mother and i are French but she doesn't speak English. I am a Christiam. She is not. She heard you speak in French over the loudspeaker, calling her by name and preaching the gospel to her." The mother communicated through her daughter that she wanted to be saved and was that very moment. That's one of at least a dozen i know of first hand. Just thought a story would encourage someone. :-)

@lovemylifeflorida2641

3 жыл бұрын

The bible says every speaking of tongues has an interpreter and in the case the young woman and her mother were the interpreter.

@AdventureSMBW

3 жыл бұрын

​@@lovemylifeflorida2641 The Bible does not say that.

I agree with everything and I am still researching and praying to see if there is a tongue that is like a private prayer language to God, except, Paul Washer says everyone knew somehting supernatural was going on, but in reality, not everyone thought what was going on was supernatural: "But others were mocking and saying, "They are full of sweet wine." - Acts 2:13 Anyways glad he is not a cessessotionist

I grew up in a staunchly cessasionist setting, and I adhered to that strongly until I was converted at the age of 25; I received the Spirit of adoption while in a forest, alone, and when I did, I came up off of that bridge I was laying on speaking/praying in another tongue. For the past 26 years I have prayed in tongues, and it IS authentic, and I need no man to validate that or affirm it for me as I have seen the fruit of it over the years in my own life and many of my brothers and sisters. Have I ever spoken out in another tongue in a congregational setting? No, I have not. Do I blurt out in my prayer language in a congregational setting? No. Do I understand this completely in my mind? No, and I'm grateful for that. This prayer language that I was given at my conversion has been such a blessing over the years, and it keeps my spirit man lubricated if you will, primed and ready to commune with a Holy God. I will say that I have also operated in the other gifts over the years, and I have been the recipient of them from other members of the body I am a part of, and they have proven true and accurate. Words of knowledge and wisdom, etc. Are they the main thing? No, Christ is, but I'm grateful that they are tools that the Holy Spirit has given us for the edification of the body. Let's not let the extremes and abuses cause us to miss the actual authentic gifts that they are. This is the word of the enemy to keep us weak and divided. God bless and Happy Christmas.

I always think is disrespectful to the presence of Jesus to video record but ima do it so people can see how real this is. Next time God is talking to our church using this brother that have this gift you are gonna see how one is talking the different tongues another one is interpreting and another sometimes is seen the vision, and what I find most amazing is that in all this tongues sometimes like one sentence is in English and this brother n sisters are part of my family and they don’t know one word of English some of them don’t even know how to write is jst so amazing and super natural can’t even explain 🙌🙌🙌📖📖 miracles to the naked eye happen here 🙌🙌🙌 the Lord Jesus Christ is still with us we jst need to seek him n holiness

This topic has been one of the most damaging in the modern era. I am one who has grown up experiencing many denominations (baptist, full gospel, AFM, Methodist etc), and various kinds of tongues (languages) were always spoken, with interpretations. Sometimes evangelical ministers will be preaching let's say in a rural African church with an interpreter (As I've experienced), and then pray in tongues, only for the interpreter to stand back because the preacher was unknowingly (by the Holy Spirit) praying in that Native language. Then I've experienced being woken up by the Holy Spirit, compelled to pray, but not knowing what - opening my mouth and the Spirit gives utterance, words flow in a foreign tongue (what some might scoff at, calling it gibberish), but if you listen carefully you can hear words, sentences, punctuated even (this reminds me that when hearing Arabic sometimes, or some other distant language, those might sound like gibberish too). [I heard the comedian Trevor Noah pretend to speak Chinese in one of his sets - it sounded so convincing, yet Chinese speakers said he was just talking gibberish - but they said it was also the best 'pretend Chinese they'd ever heard'.] Anyway; I've been taught, and believe that there are 4 types of tongues... 1) Praying in tongues to God (1 Cor 14:2-4, Acts 2:4), 2.)Praying in tongues over/for people (Acts 19:6, 1 Cor 14:22), 3.)Speaking in a foreign/earthly language for an individual's edification (tho the church gets edified as well) or 4) Speaking in a foreign/heavenly language and the receiving divine interpretation for the building up of a church/body of believers (1 Cor 13:1, 1 Cor 14:5) --- also see 1 Cor 14:26-28 and Mark 16:17 . . . All this being said, I think Derek Prince's teaching is quite comprehensive. What complicates it is that you *do* get people speaking actual gibberish/nonsense, and then you get those and other religions who have incantations and satanic chants which are basically demonic tongues. This is why you need the baptism of the Holy Spirit, acknowledging Jesus as Lord of all, to discern. 1 John 4:1-21, 2 Cor 11:14, Isa 8:19, Matt 24:24, 1 Thess 5:21 etc. Interestingly though, most times I find 'resistance' to this gift comes in the form of "I don't think this gifting is for me" - which is another point of doctrinal debate, as this thinking has also hindered believers (1 Cor 14:1)

@StevenBenjaminAuthor

3 жыл бұрын

Another interesting account I heard was, a minister was asked by a professor to pray for him that he may receive the gift of tongues. So he did. A few days later the professor caught up with him in jubilant mood saying he received the gift... he then proceeded to proclaim the words "Abi dabbi, Abi Dabbi, Abi Dabbi" - the minister nodded, but was not convinced at all, thinking this was even a mockery. Later the minister was invited to speak at a campus meeting , after which during the testimony session, this professor volunteered to share. The minister, still unconvinced and embarrassed, slipped out, as the professor took to the stage undoubtedly about to ramble on with "Abi Dabbi". Shortly thereafter, 2 Jnr professors caught up with the minister and asked for him to pray for them as well, encouraged by the professor's testimony earlier. The minister was taken aback... Their reasoning was "If that man, one of the most intelligent men on campus, was willing to get up on a stage - proclaim the work of Jesus, shouting 'Abi Dabbi Abi Dabbi' - and risk making a complete fool of himself in the process, then they wanted that as well." The minister later repented his limited ways of thinking and how God can operate, reminded of 1 Cor 1:27 "God chose things the world considers foolish in order to shame those who think they are wise."

@billybynorth7467

3 жыл бұрын

More vain gibberish to support your vain gibberish

@StevenBenjaminAuthor

3 жыл бұрын

@@billybynorth7467 well that's not very constructive...or edifying to the body of Christ. Since I cited scripture, 1 Cor 14:2 for instance, are you then saying Paul was speaking vain gibberish too?

So we need to rip 1cor 14:2-5 out of our Bibles . Because it says tongues (1) edifieth himself (2) he speaketh unto God.

@samgott8689

3 жыл бұрын

Right, but the whole problem in the Church at Corinth (and it WAS Church, messed up though it was, so please don’t think I’m condemning you or anything) was that the gifts were being used selfishly, when they are given to build up and edify the Church. The whole idea of it being to build up self or as a private prayer language is presented as a problem. At any rate, wherever you fall on the issue, whatever gifts the LORD has given you, spectacular or mundane, use them to build up and minister to your brothers and sisters in CHRIST. Never stop reminding them of the perfect Savior we have in CHRIST.

@heels-villeshoerepairs8613

3 жыл бұрын

No, we just need to read it in context.

Nothing is impossible with GOD. More Fruit of the Spirit please, Love Joy Peace Long-suffering or patients Kindness Goodness Faithfulness Gentleness Selfcontrol

Mark 16:17, And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues

@AdventureSMBW

3 жыл бұрын

Cessationists typically believe that portion of Mark is not scripture. You'll have to give them different ones lol.

@alexm.7062

3 жыл бұрын

You cannot pick and choose what scriptures to believe in! Either you believe them or you don’t! You should always pray for understanding from God and not use your own intellect. That is what is wrong with modern church, it’s too intellectual and not spiritual. The Spirit of God is not moving like it did in the New Testaments because of unbelief! Stop putting the limits on God and believe in what he can do!

@AdventureSMBW

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexm.7062 Im not a cessationist. I was just letting you know they don't accept that as an argument :-) Also, they aren't picking and choosing what scripture to believe in. The final portion of Mark 16 is not present in earlier manuscripts, so its up for debate whether it is truly canon or not. I believe it is.

@ApostolicEchoes

3 жыл бұрын

Finish the verse. Is It just the first part you claim? Or can you drink poison? Handle snakes? Heal the sick ?

*CESSATIONISM is a doctrine from hell*

Great answer

From what Paul washer says he has never spoken tongue, What if speaking in tongue is nothing more than the sound you make weeping from true repentance with great sorrow and great remorse. Scripture says it's an unknown language only God could understand. Jesus said we must become like little children to enter the Kingdom of heaven is it not a fact that a child speaks with crying To ask their mother for something.. Most incidents when speaking in tongues is in the book of acts not short after is laying on of hands.. which could actually be just a hug to comfort the person weeping..

@lotsofwoods

3 жыл бұрын

Theres some other epistles written after Jesus and it does mention a stuttering or stammering language that cant be written.

God manifest in the flesh died on the cross and rose again. He did everything necessary to save you from your sins and give you eternal life. Tongues were for a sign, the Jews required a sign. Israel is fallen and blind. Gifts were given Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ:

@AdventureSMBW

3 жыл бұрын

Where can I find the second half of that? 2 Opinions 3:18?

@edcarson3113

3 жыл бұрын

@@AdventureSMBW read your Bible.

@AdventureSMBW

3 жыл бұрын

@@edcarson3113 I just read through 1st and 2nd Hesitations as well. I found the gifts ceasing there, but I cant seem to find it in the original canon. Could you point to a passage to start?

This is a very touchy topic of scriptures. I can't tell you guys how often a debate gets rattled because of this... Paul is absolutely right. The word of God even shows evident of the way tongue is used. It's only to edify your spirit when you're one on one with God. Whenever a person speaks in "tongue" but there's no interpreter, then what is that person even saying amen to? I'm sorry, but Paul was right... I, too, have yet too see the real language of tongue in this generation. In the book of acts, during their first time being given the power of tongue through the Holy Spirit, EVERY person understood them even though they were from different parts and spoke different languages. That's like having someone speak in the Holy Spirit, but there's a crowd of Chinese, spanish, german and french people, yet, they all understand that person as if it was their own. THATS the real tongue. Everything else... It's vain babble. I have testimonies about it. Believe me. Satan comes masquerading as am angel of light. If anyone's church tries speaking "tongues" but there are not at least 2 interpreters...pray for them. It's not from God.

Speaking in tongues is not jibberish - like churches do today, and then they interpret it?. Speaking in tongues is speaking in a foreign unknown language to one's own.

@AdventureSMBW

3 жыл бұрын

Assuming you only speak 1 or 2 languages, how do you distinguish between jibberish and an authentic language?

@mathewsk437

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, half true. There's an heavenly language

@robotusan

3 жыл бұрын

@@mathewsk437 Very true

@AdventureSMBW

3 жыл бұрын

@@mathewsk437 When Paul said "though i speak in the tongues of angels," he wasn't saying there's an angelic language humans can speak. He was using it as a metaphor for beautiful speach. In other words "Though i speak as beautifully as an angel." Its like you saying "My wife is as pretty as an angel."

@mathewsk437

3 жыл бұрын

@@AdventureSMBW lol. Notice how you just came up with that to justify your own reason not to believe in heavenly tongues because I know Paul meant there's an actual language like an angelic language but you don't just want to accept it so yeah Paul was just exaggerating right?? Ok lol

I love your ministry Paul Washer…Thanks for your answer in this matter. I just found it to be a little squishy.

@AdventureSMBW

3 жыл бұрын

Like a jellyfish? 😂

I have no problem with the idea of angelic languages. However, I have to assume that an angelic language would be so unearthly that I'd either be terrified or enraptured and weep if I heard it. Untie-my-bowtie-who-stole-my-honda doesn't quite cut it.

@AdventureSMBW

3 жыл бұрын

I think Paul was using "tongues of angels" more as an exagguration. Like, "though my speech is as beautiful as an angel's.." I don't think he was saying there is a variety of speaking in tongues that is an angelic language. Just my 2 cents!

@forg1vens1nner58

3 жыл бұрын

JD Langton Also another thing to notice is that every time an Angel speaks in the Bible it’s in the Hebrew tongue.. even to Paul who spoke several languages the Angels chose to speak Hebrew to him. So if there is an Angelic language.. it seems to be herbrew. Which makes sense as to that being Israel’s language.

@DanielMartinez-wj5dy

3 жыл бұрын

🤣 wow that’s pretty funny. Yeah I hear so many people who utter the same thing over and over every time they (supposedly) speak in tongues. And some even would wave and say hi as they are speaking that way??? I would go to a charismatic church that’s how I know and honestly it felt so fake when they would speak like that. But what do I know I’m only a human with limited knowledge trusting only in Christ for my salvation.

i was 15 when i was baptized with the holy spirit and when i speak in tongues the enemy will never understand a word i said is between me and God

@DanielMartinez-wj5dy

3 жыл бұрын

Question do you know what your saying when you speak to God? If not how can you trust that?

The girl asking the question also needs to understand that chapters 12 and 13 precede what Paul W. explained at the last. I say that because 12 talks about gifts, 13 is the love chapter, and in 14 the apostle goes back to the gifts. Seems odd that the apostle would talk about gifts, then a wedding, and back to gifts. That's because he's not. Chapter 13 mentions gifts that will cease...tongues is one of those gifts. I too agree with Paul W. that Acts 2 is THE Biblical example of tongues and that the apostle Paul is using hyperbole in chapter 14. He also says that wished that they all spoke in tongues and that he did so more that they all did. This makes sense when we realize that Paul was a missionary to many people groups that spoke many different languages. Paul W. does an excellent job of explaining Biblical truth.

I believe this issue is made bigger than what it is... The Bible says that it is better for us to ask for gifts of prophecy than to speak tongues, prophecy helps the church, tongues only edifices yourself, so which is greater? I want the greater gift if it would be God's will... both if that be his will, if those gifts for me ate not his will then there will be a different gift, maybe teaching the word of God is all I'm here for... all I know is I trust God's will and whatever he Will's will happen, I just pray I am part of it... also the Bible says to not speak in tongues in the church if there is no interpreter and I see it many churches everyone wants to yell out in tongues and edify their own soul, yet for the visitors, the new people, how must they feel when they don't understand a thing about it, the Bible says to not speak tongues unless there is an interpreter so please if there is no interpreter then just hold your tongue, because it helps no one but yourself in fact it may cause the babies in christ to run away from your church... I personally do not speak in tongues I've asked for it just like for the gift of prophecy, but have not been granted that gift by God as of yet

I agree that it means speaking foreign languages. Not a language from heaven although I’m not saying it’s impossible. What I’m saying is why would we need someone to translate this unknown tongue? Idk anyone who studied angelic talk. I do know certain church denominations believe in mumbling sounds and saying it is an angelic language. Regardless what you believe all that matters in the end is Jesus.

2 peter 1:20 be careful when explaining scripture. Were not here to hear man's "opinion" read what is written & believe. Alottt of people are making the scriptures contradict eachother and God is not the author of confusion. Be careful who you listen to brothers and sisters. God bless you all

What does "praying in the Holy Ghost" actually mean? [Jude 1:20]

@TheDrewdrewdrewdrew

3 жыл бұрын

Every time a believer prays, he or she is praying in the Spirit. It is the Spirit of adoption who enables us to cry "Abba, Father!" and the Spirit intercedes for us, for we do not know how to pray as we ought. (Rom. 8) Praying biblically IS praying in the Spirit. If you weren't praying in the Spirit you wouldn't be praying.

@TheChukwuntaFamily356

3 жыл бұрын

check out 1 Corinth14: 2,4

The gift of tongues is completely for today's believers. It was active in the lives of great men of God like David wilkerson who always used in his private prayer life " whoever speaks in tongues, talks to God, because he does not understand what he is saying unless he asks God for interpretation" ... Lester Sumrall in his book " gifts of the holy spirit" talks about his missionary trip to Africa where he preached at a small town where everyone followed a witch, at the moment he started preaching the witch interrupted speaking in tongues .. But by revelation Lester knew this were false tongues ot demons, he rebuked it ....

@paulwasher5389

3 жыл бұрын

Child of God Keep your dreams alive and let what God has in stock for you to materialize. God ministered to me when I was in your profile to see things around I saw God's favor, success, joy, breakthrough. Behind that I saw more spiritual attacks, setbacks, laboring in vain and accident from the enemies Understand to achieve anything requires faith and belief in yourself, vision, hard work, determination, and dedication. Remember all things are possible for those who believe. (2cor.9v6) you have to connect with the Lord in the realm of spirit by sowing a seed of faith to this ophanage (LIVING SEED OPHANAGE FOUNDATION) within the space of three days and you will witness a supernatural turn around and finacial freedom. Contact or WhatsApp the M: D of the foundation, on (+2348166309200) or email them @ livingshomeorphanage@gmail.com God has raised, healed and BLESSED many through these children (luk 6v38) As you believe and do so I pray that ALMIGHTY GOD will mutiply your income and cast away all the attacks in your life and I pray for divine Grace ,, favor, protection AND Blessings shall be your portion In Jesus name amen....

@luissantos396

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulwasher5389 stop playing with the things of God and asking the children of God "seeds of faith" to earn your so called blessings from heaven ... Every gift that comes from heaven is given by grace, it is not possible to earn it with good deeds or by donations .... Your language is the same language of those who play around with the things of God and the merchants of faith .... Be blessed and free.

I didn’t think the comments section would be open and was surprised it was. I just wanna say how even more surprised I am at the civilized agreements &/or disagreements with one another on here. Totally shocked under this topic, or any topic whatsoever, for that matter. I am also assuming Keith has deleted the barbaric commenters.. well done to all.

So someone had messaged a friend of mine this during their discussion about tongues: "Ok you have answered. But the Apostle Paul says if you pray in tongues and no one interprets then you better be quiet. Does that not mean that the only way people can understand tongues is through the supernatural gift of interpreting tongues? If that is the case, why do you then say it is a human language? If it is human languages you do not need a supernatural interpreter. All you need just someone who understands that language without any necessity of the supernatural. I hope you are following what I am saying" How should he respond to this? With Biblical support?

@jstisme5873

3 жыл бұрын

In the begining of acts chapter 2, the people heard commotion and heard them speak in their mother tongues if that helps

@hwarang4ever365

3 жыл бұрын

@@jstisme5873 I had said that too. But this guy my friend has been talking to is very adamant that the gift of tongues was the ability to speak in an unknown spiritual gibberish. I had always seen the gift of tongues as the supernatural ability to speak foreign human languages without prior knowledge of that ability.

@AdventureSMBW

3 жыл бұрын

@@hwarang4ever365 If I were talking to him, I'd start with this question. "So, what language are people speaking when they speak in tongues?" And then I wouldn't let him get away with saying "spiritual gibberish" unless he could use scripture to back it up. You, obviuously have examples ready for others understanding the languages spoken.

@hwarang4ever365

3 жыл бұрын

@@AdventureSMBW That's exactly how my friend started the conversation. Essentially, the other guy was stating that the apostles spoke in the spiritual gibberish tongues and people were able to hear the talk in their own language. However, the other dude often extrapolates the text to fit his narrative.

@hwarang4ever365

3 жыл бұрын

@@AdventureSMBW This was his latest response: You insist that tongues are a human language that had not been learned by the speaker because of your misreading of Acts 2:5-12, just like what most Christians do. I used to believe that too until I stopped reading that passage without the wrong assumptions of what tongues are. I tried to explain to you how those passages are actually not saying what people generally think they are saying but it just flew over your head. So I am trying to show that if you apply your definition of tongues to what paul says in corinthians, then what Paul wrote would not make any sense. For example,1 Corinthians 14:2, "For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit. " You completely ignore this and claim tongues are for communicating with men of foreign language, the exact opposite of what paul is saying. You believe what you believe based on your misunderstanding of Acts 2. In acts 2, the disciples did not preach in tongues to foreigners, instead the foreigners only supernaturally heard prayers in tongues, in their own languages. The apostles were praying in tongues praising God. They only started preaching in normal human language after they had stopped praying in tongues but they never preached or communicated with anyone in tongues. If you read the bible without assumptions you will see that tongues are not human languages. I know all the verses that you have sent or that you can send. I am not boasting but I am just trying to tell you that everything you believe about tongues I once believed but it was based on misreading the bible and just taking for granted that the general consensus on the topic must have been correct, but I now see it doesn't even make any logical sense

The tongues is a Heavenly language that's why it's called tongues of Angel's how does everyone in heaven communicate to each other? How is it God communicates to everyone in their own language then?

That is the Acts Description. But I will agree that doesn’t seem to be what was going on in 1 Corinthians 12-14.

How do you explain in cor where it says when we speak in tongues we are edifies I know many times I’ve spoken or sung in tongues in the car when driving or working and it’s encouraged me knowing that I’m speaking or singing directly to God By the way I’m not charismatic or evangelical I’m both ➕🌈🇦🇺🇮🇱

@DanielMartinez-wj5dy

3 жыл бұрын

It’s emotionalism I believe. You believe a certain thing and it makes you feel good. But I’m not sure. I’m only human bro

I speak in tongues. This pastor, has not been taught about tongues. There are 3 tongues. One to deliver messages to the body, which requires someone interpret. One in our private prayer life. One for brothers and sisters in the Lord to communicate when they speak different languages. I would encourage the body of Christ to go to a full gospel church or talk with a pentecostal preacher to see the gifts in operation and be taught. This is not a difficult subject to talk about for those of us who are baptized in the Holy Spirit and are filled with the Spirit. It is, like every other doctrine, difficult for those who don't believe the Holy Spirit is the same as JESUS in that HE does not change. We believers are a part of the church that has existed since the first church. We can continue to be filled with the power of the HOLY SPIRIT, being filled daily and seeing the gifts operating in our congregations today.

Paul said, “do all speak in tongues” implying some do, then goes on to say don’t do it in public worship lest there be an interpreter, or some visitors will think you’ve gone crazy. So yes in today’s church it is a gift, one of many, the craziness we see in Charismatic churches today is hardly biblical, we need discernment

@AdventureSMBW

3 жыл бұрын

He does not say "don't do it in public worship." He says "keep silent in church, and let him speak to himself and God." When Paul speaks of silence in church like this, hes typically referring to openly addressing the church, not opening your mouth at all. When he tells women to remain silent, he does not mean they can't pray and sing in the building. He means addressing the crowd. I would argue that people speaking in tongues to God during worship is not disobeying this exhortation. I think the disorder comes when said tongue-speaker attempts to address other people. Just my thoughts!

His comparison between himself (a self-labeled "a practical cessationist") and a cessationist should be compared to an agnostic vs an atheist. (1) Washer talks about people "grounded in the Word" without experience. He is wrong. You cannot be truly "grounded in the Word" without having experience; because if you were truly "grounded in the Word", you couldn't help yourself but have experience with God. God promises experience with Him, if you diligently seek Him. How can you be "grounded in the Word" without diligently seeking Him? So, if you lack experience with God or if you lack a desire to be grow to be grounded in His Word, you aren't where you think you are. Both are required for a healthy walk with God. (2) Washer claims: "In every case (in his study of Scripture) when tongues is being spoken, it is a real phonetic language" (with the clearly expressed connotation that it is a human language). Again, Washer is wrong. Washer misses the whole point of 1 Cor 14. The Apostle Paul says this: "For he that speaks in a [unknown] tongue speaks not unto men, but unto God: for no man understands [him]; howbeit in the spirit he speaks mysteries....He that speaks in an [unknown] tongue edifies himself....I would that you all spoke with tongues, but rather than you prophesied: for greater is he that prophesies than he that speaks with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying. Now brethren, if I come to you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine? So likewise you, except you utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken?....Wherefore let him that speaks in an [unknown] tongue pray that he may interpret. For if I pray in an [unknown] tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful." The Apostle goes on from there to say: "I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than you all: Yet, in the church, I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice, I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an [unknown] tongue." (select tongue-focused verses--just to leave out the prophesy and voice comparisons--from 1 Cor 14) So, if the Apostle Paul is always speaking a "real phonetic language" (from a human perspective), that whole discussion would make no sense. However, Paul is not talking about speaking a tongue that his hearers understand, otherwise, why would he have to interpret it. Also, Paul is not speaking a language that he understands (apart from praying for and receiving the interpretation), because otherwise, he would have understanding of what he is saying and would not need interpretation. Yet, Paul talks about praying that kind of tongues more than anyone; yet that when he speaks in a church, he would rather speak words that he understands, so he might teach others. Scripturally, it seems pretty clear that the Apostle Paul is speaking about something very different than what Washer is talking about. (3) We have this weird idea that must come from cessationists that "the gifts of healing" means everyone has to be healed. That isn't Scripturally true. If it was, the Apostle Paul didn't have that gift, because he had people with him that were sick and not healed. I don't know anyone who would believe that.

Paul said he wished everyone would speak in tongues. He also describes this tongues as praying in the spirit, to God not men, for the edification of self as opposed to prophecy which edifies others. I'm also reminded that God confounds the wise with the foolishness of the Gospel. There is a certain humility in praying to God privately, in tongues out of ones spirit, without understanding of the mind, although God can give understanding of what one has prayed in the spirit. I think the biggest rejection of this experience with the Lord is the excess, soulish or demonic counterfeits within the church, the obvious demonic counterfeit within the occult and the unwillingness for most in the charismatic movement to ever challenge anything "spiritual" as not of God. However, throwing the gifts of God out due to excess, or Satan's counterfeit is to miss out on what God offers his children. I find this form of tongues mentioned in the bible, a personal prayer language, to be a great help when the heart is motivated to pray or sing to the Lord, but the mind can not come up with the words to express the inner desire.

This is a difficult question. As an ex-Pentecostal myself I still find myself speaking in tongues during prayer. I guess the major difference for me is that I don't purposely do it anymore. I would rather pray in English (or in French) until I feel in my spirit the urge to speak in a tongue. There have been times in my life when I spoke in tongues with a clear interpretation from the Lord in English and in French. I could even speak in tongues which resemble pretty much a phonetic language yet unknown to me. I have attended a particular church in my home country where 2 or 3 people would, in turn, speak in tongues during the service with interpretation given by themselves or a third person. When my wife Lilian received her healing from a deadly heart disease, was I praying in english? Nooooo. I was praying in tongues through and through. For me the key statement from Paul himself is "So, my brothers, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues". What a beautiful advice!

@ThroughAngesEyes

3 жыл бұрын

Wow! Thank you! Soyez bénis!

Can I ask for a prayer? My name is David Paul I pray to God but I don't hear back. I don't know what to do. I have left everything that my conscience tells me is a sin, yet I feel no peace or change in my spirit.

@jj-vf7wm

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t believe God speaks to people audibly. He speaks through His word mostly. Doesn’t mean He can’t speak through a verse that you see somewhere or through situations because He can! However be careful. Because you can easily fall into the trap of thinking that if you don’t hear Him audibly something wrong. I don’t hear Him audibly but He definitely has answered my prayers through situations, circumstances. I know He’s speaking to me when for example something is bothering me or I feel down and somehow a verse that applies to how I feel pops up somewhere or I just read it straight from His word.

Act 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? it is a good bet that Cornelius and Peter could have a normal conversation as they spoke with each other in the common language of Koine Greek, from the context they spoke to each other and understood each other, So what were the tongues that Cornelius and his household were speaking that Peter recognized as the gift of tongues? it had to be different from their language they were using to converse with one another for Peter to recognize they were speaking in tongues. the context is very much is suggesting that the "tongues they spoke" were not their normal conversant language.

Confusion is the way of Satan. If we do not understand what is being communicated, how do we discern the spirit of the communication?

I didn't listen to very much of what Washer had to say, but based on the comments about what he said, it was nothing new that non-Pentecostals haven't said before. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit and tongues is Scriptural but people who don't want to believe it is, look for ways to dismiss it or to say it ceased with the Apostolic Age. The Pentecostal movement that began in the early part of the 20th century as a result of an outpouring of the Holy Spirit, gave rise to a number of new denominations which had as their doctrinal distinctive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in other tongues. Today, there are millions who have experienced the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. They experienced what those 120 deciples in the upper room on the Day of Pentecost experienced. When Peter preached to Cornelius and his household and the Holy Spirit fell upon them, Peter and those with him recognized that these Gentiles were experiencing what they themselves had experienced in that upper room on the Day of Pentecost. Acts 10:45-46 KJV "And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God." So my point is, the experience of being filled with the Holy Spirit is Scriptural and for believers today. The fact that there are abuses, and people and preachers who misrepresent Pentecostalism by their ungodly teachings and actions does not negate the scriptural and experiential truth of this doctrine.

I always find it funny how people will pick these Holy Spirit signs that can be faked. Prophecy with no consequences. Speaking in “tongues” and no one knows what they are babbling about. And no consequences. Never healing some life long crippled person. Never walking into a cancer ward and healing all those who are sick. It is a mockery of God. And those who do it will have to answer.

Just a question. What do you think was happening or the point of the person speaking in tongues that there was no one there to understand if that's how you interpret that passage? Does there always have to be man's logic and reason to supernatural occurrences that God does for example? Are there not super natural occurances every day in the believers life?

Love you channel svaed them to my Playlist but I think your account it's being hacked. There's like 15 videos with the same gadgagaga title and weird cover photos

He said doo doo.....

@sandynahomi5066

3 жыл бұрын

😂😆🤣😂🤣

"some" utter words dedicated to demon that the occult people use in their witchcraft. Churches infiltrated by Satan. Pray for wisdom and understanding from the Lord of heaven and earth. Jesus is Lord

@mathewsk437

3 жыл бұрын

There is a thing as an heavenly language

@robotusan

3 жыл бұрын

And those who call the work of the Holy Spirit "demonic" are guilty of the unpardonable sin

@mathewsk437

3 жыл бұрын

@@robotusan exactly!!! And they don't see what they're doing as wrong which makes me.so sad

Well I have to thank God the we so blessed because this is rare now days, we have people baptized with the holy spirit and they have the prophecy gift and the interpretation of the tongues they speaking and I gotta say this is true super natural things and miracles happening in this small gathering we have 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌 I wish I was able to upload a video of our gatherings super natural things happen in this services we have at the houses since they close our churches, who can cure cancer only Jesus Christ who can fix broken bones instantly, who can fix a broken head skull instantly by been beat with a bat and who can raise someone from been declared dead for about 8 hrs only Jesus Christ using this brothers n sister that he has given them this gifts, I seen all this in my own family supernatural things happening 🙌🙌🙌🙌

@paulwasher5389

3 жыл бұрын

Child of God Keep your dreams alive and let what God has in stock for you to materialize. God ministered to me when I was in your profile to see things around I saw God's favor, success, joy, breakthrough. Behind that I saw more spiritual attacks, setbacks, laboring in vain and accident from the enemies Understand to achieve anything requires faith and belief in yourself, vision, hard work, determination, and dedication. Remember all things are possible for those who believe. (2cor.9v6) you have to connect with the Lord in the realm of spirit by sowing a seed of faith to this ophanage (LIVING SEED OPHANAGE FOUNDATION) within the space of three days and you will witness a supernatural turn around and finacial freedom. Contact or WhatsApp the M: D of the foundation, on (+2348166309200) or email them @ livingshomeorphanage@gmail.com God has raised, healed and BLESSED many through these children (luk 6v38) As you believe and do so I pray that ALMIGHTY GOD will mutiply your income and cast away all the attacks in your life and I pray for divine Grace ,, favor, protection AND Blessings shall be your portion In Jesus name amen.....

1 Cor. 14 speaks of the unknown tongue with which one speaks mysteries to God; it is for edification of the believer.

@bjornjansen7799

3 жыл бұрын

Unknown to other people because they dont understand the language. Like when I speak dutch, you wont understand and it would be an unknown tongue to you

@PennyShreve

3 жыл бұрын

@@bjornjansen7799 You should read 1 Cor. 14 (KJV).

@bjornjansen7799

3 жыл бұрын

@@PennyShreve I actually did. And I explained that you speak to God because nobody can understand the language you speak, when you speak in a unknown language (tongue). The only languages (tongues) I know are dutch, german and english, when someone speaks an other language (tongue), it is unknown to me, so they speak to God, because I dont understand it, unless someone can transulate it to a language (tongue) that I do understand.

If In the Bible they needed a interpreter for the tongues and that was an actual gift of the spirit-( gift of the interprets of tongues is an actual gift in 2 Corinthians-I believe)-than it can’t always be a regular language. There are 4 types of tongues. I have seen others say they have spoken in actual languages, and there is the kind that edifies the spirit we dont Understand , and then there is the kind that needs the gift of interpretation and pa talks about that we should Sto the service to interpret it. The Bible is literal. We should not not take it litterally. We need to look at ALL the scriptures about tongues and keep the Bible in context. There are different kinds of tongues. The 4 kind of tongue is our regular language and or prophesy. BUT....I DO also THINK IF WE HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT THERE SHOULD BE THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT, THE POWER TO PREACH THE GOSPEL, and understanding of His word, and conviction of sin-NOT JUST A TONGUE.

@paulwasher5389

3 жыл бұрын

Child of God Keep your dreams alive and let what God has in stock for you to materialize. God ministered to me when I was in your profile to see things around I saw God's favor, success, joy, breakthrough. Behind that I saw more spiritual attacks, setbacks, laboring in vain and accident from the enemies Understand to achieve anything requires faith and belief in yourself, vision, hard work, determination, and dedication. Remember all things are possible for those who believe. (2cor.9v6) you have to connect with the Lord in the realm of spirit by sowing a seed of faith to this ophanage (LIVING SEED OPHANAGE FOUNDATION) within the space of three days and you will witness a supernatural turn around and finacial freedom. Contact or WhatsApp the M: D of the foundation, on (+2348166309200) or email them @ livingshomeorphanage@gmail.com God has raised, healed and BLESSED many through these children (luk 6v38) As you believe and do so I pray that ALMIGHTY GOD will mutiply your income and cast away all the attacks in your life and I pray for divine Grace ,, favor, protection AND Blessings shall be your portion In Jesus name amen....

Tongues is not a language that does Not exist... Gibberish is not a language. Tongues has to be a lanuage that is known to man.

Remember my precious brother and sisters in Christ where ever there is Truth satan / people want to try to counterfeit it. All the gifts of the Spirit are still used today but not when or how we will but God's will be done. We have real money and we have counterfeit money. We have real Born again Christians and we have pretenders. We have true gifts of the Spirit and we have seducing spirits counterfeit. But remember that the Bible says do all speak in tongues, do all prophecy etc The answer is that it is up to God what gifts we have for His glory not our own. The greatest gift is true love which seems absolutely impossible for me but nothing is impossible with God.

@paulwasher5389

3 жыл бұрын

Child of God Keep your dreams alive and let what God has in stock for you to materialize. God ministered to me when I was in your profile to see things around I saw God's favor, success, joy, breakthrough. Behind that I saw more spiritual attacks, setbacks, laboring in vain and accident from the enemies Understand to achieve anything requires faith and belief in yourself, vision, hard work, determination, and dedication. Remember all things are possible for those who believe. (2cor.9v6) you have to connect with the Lord in the realm of spirit by sowing a seed of faith to this ophanage (LIVING SEED OPHANAGE FOUNDATION) within the space of three days and you will witness a supernatural turn around and finacial freedom. Contact or WhatsApp the M: D of the foundation, on (+2348166309200) or email them @ livingshomeorphanage@gmail.com God has raised, healed and BLESSED many through these children (luk 6v38) As you believe and do so I pray that ALMIGHTY GOD will mutiply your income and cast away all the attacks in your life and I pray for divine Grace ,, favor, protection AND Blessings shall be your portion In Jesus name amen.....

Many assume that the Western Church is the centre of the Christian universe. You need a little international perspective brothers and sisters. One speaks and another interprets maybe on different sides of the world. The church is truly global and booming.

Personal interpretation is automatically wrong

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I’m skeptical about it but will not be dogmatic about it. I don’t personally believe tongues have ceased but I also don’t believe what we see in pentacostle churches is real tongues. When I would go they had interpretation but the supposed tongues would only last less then a minute and the interpretation would last several minutes? As if in a heavenly language a couple words make a whole speech in our language? And sometimes the interpreter would mess up and try and fix what he was saying. If it was truly the Spirit helping him to interpret I don’t see how he could mess up???? But again I’m just a human with limited knowledge and only trust in Christ for my salvation

Sumo is not a real deadlift

Love Paul but he's blind leading the blind on this one. Define the gifts Scripturally Paul. "For one who speaks in a tongue speaks NOT to men but to God"

Why would people learn about tongues from anyone who doesn’t believe in or speak in them? “These signs will follow them that believe...”

@ApostolicEchoes

3 жыл бұрын

finish the scripture. Can you drink poison? Heal the sick? Handle snakes with no harm? Or just the first part?

we have the Pauline epistles governing the church and its practices, how, what, when, where, these things are relevant today, I believe the whole bible ids still relevant today, and no we are no longer under the law, but those things are still part of our canon and history so that we can have their background into understanding the New Testament. they are shadows of things to come. I must admit I am on the fence about the gifts of the Spirit, I know that God heals because He has healed me on many occasions. I firmly believe that if tongues are for today then so are the other 8 gifts, so why is it that we only see and hear tongues and occasionally interpretation of tongues? where are the healings, where are the raising of the dead, where is the prophesying that reveals the heart of an unbeliever so that he falls down and says God is in you of a truth? if tongues are in operation then the other 8 gifts must also be in operation as well 1Co 12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 1Co 12:5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. 1Co 12:6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. 1Co 12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 1Co 12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 1Co 12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 1Co 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 1Co 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. there are 9 gifts listed and to the best of my memory which is not as good as I would like I have only seen tongues and on rare occasions interpretation of tongues, the only healing I have seen is what I have experienced in my personal life. 1Co 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 1Co 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 1Co 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. I am of the belief that that which is perfect is come, was the completed word of God when the New Testament had been gathered and added to the Old Testament giving us the completed Word of God that is sufficient for all matters of faith and doctrine. with the completed word of God, there was no more need for prophets to prophesy God's will, knowledge, or revelation as all of those things are now contained in the completed word of God. also, I have seen that tongues are not governed by what Paul said, 1Co 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 1Co 14:27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 1Co 14:28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. that is not followed, as I know someone who speaks in tongues like it is a normal thing, yet there is no interpretation, no edifying, and no keeping silent, itis like the tongues are there just for added emphasis on what he is preaching. we sure could use the prophesying today so that if an unbeliever is in our midst and the thoughts of his heart are revealed that would indicate to him God is in us of a truth. I am going to tread very lightly here, as Blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is unforgivable, I do not care what doctrine anyone holds that says otherwise, I am still going to be careful about what and how I say stuff concerning this matter lest I blaspheme.

@mathews kofoworola @robotusan iIbelieve in Jesus Christ son of God who came in the flesh, died, after three days rose and ascended to heaven and sits at God's right hand. My earlier comment refers to some false prophets in Africa who use occult means to gain success. I'm not blasphemous. please read closely what I said earlier . Angels have a angelic language so does the enemy. (incantations, spells etc)

The blind leading the blind in this coment section. The truth is tounges is two things native mans language and angelic unknown tounges according to bible.

@nikokapanen82

3 жыл бұрын

I have noticed that there are two extremes found in christians who are causing all the problems with this speaking in tongues issue. First extreme are those ones who claim that you MUST speak in tongues and if you dont you dont have the Holy Spirit and are not born again. The second extreme is the opposite, they claim that anybody who babble in unknown tongues is manifesting kundalini spirit and being demonized. The truth is in the middle, yes there are christians who speak in tongues but that alone means nothing yet since there are so many charlatans and prosperity gospel preachers who speak in tongues as well, so you have to show the fundamental sign as well, that you have the Holy Spirit and that is a changed behavior, being sanctified from worldly sinful lifestyle.

Nobody living today has the gift of tongues but God is not dead and still speaks through men for HIS glory.

@AdventureSMBW

3 жыл бұрын

How did you discover that nobody has the gift of tongues? That must have been exhausting...

Its crazy how some so called men of god know so little about doctrine. Im barley 17 and i know "tounges of angels" litteraly means the languages of the angels.

@PVerse-fh4hl

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by that? What are the tongues of angels? - to what verse are you referring to?

@PVerse-fh4hl

3 жыл бұрын

@Josias Maldonado Yes, that is exactly how I understand it...my question was actually to lilsra333 who said: *''Its crazy how some so called men of god know so little about doctrine. Im barley 17 and i know "tounges of angels" litteraly means the languages of the angels.''* Because so called men of God wont say : *''Its crazy how some so called men of god know so little about doctrine. Im barley 17 and i know "tounges of angels" litteraly means the languages of the angels.''* Spiritual Pride is dangerous

@PVerse-fh4hl

3 жыл бұрын

Beware of spiritual pride....you talk about SO CALLED MEN OF GOD.........Men of GOD wont say *Its crazy how some so called men of god know so little about doctrine. Im barley 17 and i know "tounges of angels" litteraly means the languages of the angels*

I love Paul Washer but this is a convenient way to avoid the practice of tongues in weekly church settings and private experience, as Paul teaches and Acts shows us. I highly recommend The Language of Heaven by Sam Storms. 250 pages of solid Biblical evidence for the continuation of the gift of tongues, private and public, as the Scriptures teach.

@jeffs797

3 жыл бұрын

All that we need know about tongues is in Scripture. Anything more is not biblical. You people are not speaking an angelic language. Stop lying! What you are doing is the practice of eisegesis (to lead into) which is subjecting Scripture to your own preconceived thoughts and prejudices. You take passages out of context and inject your own meaning into Scripture. What you ought to be doing is the practice of exegesis (to lead out of) to extract the true meaning of Scripture. The spiritual gifts are not for your personal use. You may believe you are speaking in heavenly tongues but it's really just a manifestation of your flesh. Satan is happy to help you engage in such activities and may even be speaking through you. If there is no interpretation of tongues then it is not Biblical. You people are driving new converts away from the church. You are not characters in the Bible. There were 12 Apostles, you are not one of them!

@Alexkearney

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffs797 I strongly suggest The Language of Heaven by Sam Storms for an exegetical defense of the gift of tongues

I really liked Paul Washers preaching but what he said is false “For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭14:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It's sad to see Washer try to go above his level of revelation.Like a blind man describing a sunset.

@mikhailyaremkiv

3 жыл бұрын

And who are you to say such things? Genuine question. Do you set the "levels"? Have you been revealed other individuals' "levels of revelation"?....or do you just like to type stuff on KZread?

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