1. Record high student debt = Conservative Party tripled tuition fees & abolished maintenance grants. 2. Record high NHS wait times = Conservative Party defunded the NHS & caused staff retention crisis by poor pay & conditions. 3. Cost of living crisis = Conservative Party refused to introduce a Real Living Wage legal minimum & allow social security payment to rise with inflation. 4. Unaffordable Housing = Conservative Party refused to reform planning laws & abolished house building targets to appease NIMBYs so supply doesn't meet demand. 5. Expensive energy bills = Conservative Party refused to invest in home insulation, onshore wind & solar farms.

@PhillipGibbon

4 күн бұрын

😂😂😂 student debt is self inflicted

@VaucluseVanguard

4 күн бұрын

Re your point 2. NHS funding has risen by just over 30% in real terms since 2010. The NHS has not teen “defunded”, rather the increasing amount of our national wealth being spent on healthcare is not meeting the increased demand and expectations. Tory, Labour, Lib Dem or Reform some very hard decisions will have to be made in the next decade. Labour will almost win the huge majority needed to make the tough decisions. Unfortunately, the NHS is central to Labour’s foundation myth. It is a religious icon at the heart of its ideology. So I can’t see it having the moral courage needed to reform health funding.

@AB-zl4nh

4 күн бұрын

​@VaucluseVanguard the King's Fund, medical experts, have investigated & found the NHS has been defunded. The spending increase doesn't meet the demand. I will believe them over you. Next, you ignored the very important point about pay & conditions harming staff retention. Your last comment is vibes, so I will ignore it like you ignored most of my comments on the NHS.

@AB-zl4nh

4 күн бұрын

​​@PhillipGibbon Student debt harms you directly and the UK economy. The money students spend on debt payments is money they can't spend on cars, housing, or food. This slows economic growth and reduces tax revenue. With less tax revenue, the government has less money for the police, military, doctors, teachers and tax cuts. To cover this, they have to either cut public services, borrow more or raise taxes, making you poorer.

@Cornodebassetto

4 күн бұрын

Cost of living is primarily down to Brexit.

I think Sunak means 'he's' better off since 2010.

The guy with the glasses is everything wrong with this country he's never lived a real life and he's talking nonsense

@jameshealey6535

4 күн бұрын

Typical BS from a journo from the tory supporting Telegraph

@tednindo6761

4 күн бұрын

yep! he talks a lot of raw sewage

@Loner-Wolf

4 күн бұрын

He writes for the Spectator... enough said.

@t2twanks

4 күн бұрын

He was just insulting

@JohnPark-xf2gq

4 күн бұрын

If only the cons hadn't totally wrecked the country aided and abetted by the daily hate mail,the gammon express,the blot out the sun paper and the daily torygrapth

The number of people on this panel defending/ throwing out excuses for the Tories is cringe-worthy.

@IamRobotMonkey

3 күн бұрын

Absolutely 100%

They dont talk about brexit enough this was one of the worst acts the tories did to the uk

@ascgazz7347

4 күн бұрын

The worst.

@leeroy1986

4 күн бұрын

I suspect in decades time there will be people such as yourself still annoyed about this. Sounding like my Grandad around the Common market 😜

@ascgazz7347

4 күн бұрын

@@leeroy1986 well, the lasting results of Brexshit could well linger for decades mate. Meanwhile, you’re annoyed about total strangers exercising an opinion… so, ‘perspective’. You’re affected too if you’re in the UK. No point laughing at others for the situation you are also in.

@leeroy1986

4 күн бұрын

@@ascgazz7347 where did I say I was annoyed? I just said people like yourself will continue to talk about this late into your 80s probably lol.

@ascgazz7347

4 күн бұрын

@@leeroy1986 you don’t have to say you’re annoyed, for it to be obvious, sometimes. Also, talking about history is how we learn from it, we already repeat enough bad times unnecessarily. If “people like you” pipe down a bit, we might actually make more progress as a society.

Things have got better for Sunak, he has a new heated swimming pool in his house.

In what way are schools better?

@mrdaveythebaby

4 күн бұрын

Schools are not better. They are desperately underfunded. Sunak cut the schools renovation programme, and as a result, hundreds of them had to close due to RAC, a known issue that Tories ignored. Tories have been dividing society deliberately, underfunding public services, siphoning tax money off to their mates...

@alana8863

4 күн бұрын

They may be for the elite, and that's why the Tory supporters are living in cloud cuckoo land - the rest of us have been completely ignored.

@DisleyDavid

4 күн бұрын

Phonics, apparently. Nothing else was mentioned. There is no reference to collapsing buildings.

@JohnPark-xf2gq

4 күн бұрын

Magdbe only talking about the 7% of private schools which have been 12:15 able to supply us with such not at all corrupt,lying ,incompetent leaders.l hope you don't think i am being at all sarcastic.

@re1644

4 күн бұрын

obviously, Tories improved ventilation in schools... and hospitals... with all the holes in the roofs and walls

A man who spends £12,000 to book a table for his family to dine in California has no understanding of the cost of living! At the time £12,000 was more than the annual state pension for a single person!!

@canderson1955

4 күн бұрын

Not sure you are that au fait yourself. It STILL IS more than the annual state pension for a single person!! £11,502.40.

Why aren't the Tories running on "We got Brexit done"???

@comanchio1976

4 күн бұрын

Because it's demonstrably made things worse for everyone (I realise this may have been a rhetorical question but, just in case it wasn't...)

@markrhoden68

4 күн бұрын

Because it was 🐕 💩

@JelMain

4 күн бұрын

Because they didn't. Article 50 and worse was deliberate, as we saw in Guy Verhofstadt's film: Boris just ran the clock down in a premeditated intent to punish the Nation.

@samuelfawell9159

4 күн бұрын

Because they gave only made things worse,

@snaggiz

4 күн бұрын

They done did it alright!

In 2010 we had a bus service, our local gym and opened 7 days a week. It had a hydrotherapy area which is now closed. The city centre was a nice lace to visit and not full of homeless, druggies, shop lifters and drunks. I have lost my NHs dentist too, 14 year of total failure. I have never voted Tory I knew what would happen, why did people fall for the northern powerhouse, Boris bus and Brexit? Only they will know.

@maneshipocrates2264

4 күн бұрын

This is because of austerity, Brexit and corruption.

@anpj2006

4 күн бұрын

Indeed!

@JohnPark-xf2gq

4 күн бұрын

I assume soonout has no experience of any of this living in hie luxurious mansions and flying be helicopter unlike sewerella who flys by broomstick.

@roberthornbrook8374

4 күн бұрын

And don’t forget a Doctors appointment in 15 minutes after phoning

@roberthornbrook8374

4 күн бұрын

Omg 😦 Femi your still going on about brexit please stop and it isn’t far right marine La pen is actually centrist

Ian is so patronising suggesting labour do not know how difficult being in politics is he quit his job to stand as a local MP and then realised he said some horrible things about the area he was going to stand in. Seems like he knows nothing about politics typical Tori

@jamonit7169

4 күн бұрын

There's a massive difference between "being in politics" and running a country (being in government).

@ascgazz7347

4 күн бұрын

@@jamonit7169oh? Please describe them.

@jamonit7169

4 күн бұрын

@@ascgazz7347 The OP misquoted Ian Dale, he didn't say being in politics was difficult, he said governing was difficult... I can't believe I have to explain such a self explanatory concept but I'll try... There are 650 MP's in the House of Commons only about 100 are members of the government... the government runs the country, the opposition is there primarily to prevent any government overreach, that may also come from the governing party's own back bench MP's.

@ascgazz7347

4 күн бұрын

@@jamonit7169 so you’re saying being a politician automatically involves you in matters of government even if they’re not part of the cabinet. Yeah. I get it. 🤣 Do you?

Lord snot is talking out of his backside 😮😮

Schools are falling down, how can they say they are getting better? We had to orginise in my kid’s school to make repairs ourselves

@richard-gn3es

4 күн бұрын

We keep having to do these awful sponsorship games with some shady football company.. to raise money for our school. Every week there's a fundraiser from some marketing company in the school.. fed up of it

Another guy that doesn’t mention Brexit… particularly given that this has impacted the UK…

If that had been a Corbyn government and had done everything the Tories did, do you think he’d be making excuses for them? I don’t think so.

@petelawless811

4 күн бұрын

@@iangascoigne8231 shut up billy no mates

@iangascoigne8231

4 күн бұрын

@@petelawless811 so much for reform the bastion of free speech. I have got more mates than you.

@Bertrum123

3 күн бұрын

Lets hope we see that last of corbyn as well he dam nearly destroyed the labour party .and who on earth wants to vote for reform they want to privatis the nhs and bring in the us style health service hope they can afford the premiums .i would have thought the disaster of brexit would have warned people off over that bunch of grifters

The UK debt to income ratio is the highest in Europe because of our countrywide inefficiency, this is down to a decade scrimping on education, cutting back green energy and failure to maintain health and infrastructure.. The UK is broken and it all happened on the Tories watch.

@johnrussell3961

4 күн бұрын

As usual Tory debt has been created to prop up Tory failure. It hasn’t gone into making the country better. Just think what labour could have done with a growth plan funded by borrowing £2.7tn..

@Dynasty1818

4 күн бұрын

Our taxes are borderline bang-on-average for the whole of the EU.

No. No it absolutely isn't better. Literally an insane thought.

@richard-gn3es

4 күн бұрын

Finally someone also confused at why this is even up for debate. I mean it's not hard to figure it out in 5 minutes... Tory hosts keep asking it to keep you thinking it's a debate with answers that go both ways . Scummy tactics really

I have never met a single person who feels life is better in the UK than it was in 2010.

It only got better for those who were already rich.

I would love to know their reasoning as to why they blame the war in the ukraine for their problems !

@jameshealey6535

4 күн бұрын

Don't forget blaming the pandemic for everything!

@Cornodebassetto

4 күн бұрын

Because there is a conspiracy of silence over Brexit and how Brexit has driven up costs to create the cost of living crises. This was all predicted in Operation Yellowhammer. It’s easier to blame something that’s out of your control such as a war or the pandemic.

@7ookee

4 күн бұрын

Because otherwise the obvious reason for the problems we face are austerity and Brexit. The war in Ukraine is a red herring in terms of it's effect in the UK economy. They know this, but they hope others are persuaded by their lies instead.

@MrWhodini22

4 күн бұрын

Simply put, A lot of natural gas and oil came from Russia, with the sanctions that are rightly in place on Russia, the cost of those resources has gone up as it's significantly harder for them to sell their oil and gas into the market. Therefore, cost of living has gone up because of it. Also, we've spent a fair lump of money on sending Ukraine weapons and the training to use them where required. That's their excuse and they're sticking to it!

@Cornodebassetto

4 күн бұрын

@@MrWhodini22 indeed but most of the UK’s gas comes from the North Sea around 80/90% Any surplus left we sell.

Tim Stanley and the Tories: Not Like Us

Reminder Tories gave us Brexit.

@waynewoods9207

4 күн бұрын

Yer brilliant

@rosarose3443

4 күн бұрын

No they didn't it was not fully enacted.

@johnrussell3961

4 күн бұрын

@@rosarose3443. They gave us their Brexit. They were in power. Did you honestly think the Tories would give you UKIP Brexit? 😂

@nedgeson326

4 күн бұрын

@@rosarose3443tell us what you would have done differently to make Brexit work mate.

@coppershark1973

4 күн бұрын

Don’t try to talk to them rationally. Anyone still beating the drum for Brexit is either insane or nuts.

The schools are all falling down for gods sake!

We’re broken

Love Femi

@petelawless811

4 күн бұрын

He’s a little puppet his strings are being pulled by his american handler

I don’t think Sunak was living in UK in 2010, I thought he moved back to US in 2009 and returned in 2013

Tim Stanley is being a POS in this discussion. He's intentionally trying to make it sound like Labour could behave like authoritarians if they get a large majority. He's presenting it as a "why wouldn't you?" sort of point.

People voted for the councils and mayors! The reason Labour will be in charge is because people voted for it

Elect the Tories for a 5th consecutive time? Maybe this 5th time the Tories will deliver a progressive agenda with true levelling up, a properly funded NHS, and superb public services that improve everybody's life. But then again the definition of insanity is repeatedly doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

@richard-gn3es

4 күн бұрын

5th time's the charm right? And if not then there's always number 6.

If you think things are better now than in 2010 you are HIGH. Or one of the 1%. It is pure fantacism to think it.

Government has always been very complex and very difficult which explains the very bad state the UKs in after 14 years of incompetent government. Yet despite government being very complex and very difficult when Labour left office the country was in far, far betted state than it is now.

Glasses guy is horrendous to hear. And look at.

How are schools better ?

@mjl2904

4 күн бұрын

‘The roofs are caving in on the great unwashed and private schools are free of VAT’ 😂

@uniquerebeljaney3639

4 күн бұрын

​@@mjl2904Open top schools provide better ventilation.

@richard-gn3es

4 күн бұрын

​@@uniquerebeljaney3639using rainwater to clean the classroom.. how green and progressive

Iain fail

@philipcrossley1279

4 күн бұрын

He is as culpable as anyone for the mess the country is in. He has supported and defended everything the Tories have done, and gaslighted his audience on the Tories' behalf. No doubt he and Kuenssberg will feature in Sunak's honours list.

When you see members of the journalist class discussing anything...you know to watch something else.

Hang on, they've been in power 14 years. Covid hasn't been around that long, come on.

@richard-gn3es

4 күн бұрын

That's the slight of hand that used to work. People see it more now because things have gone too far

@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207

2 күн бұрын

Also waiting lists had been rising before COVID.

He cannot name one thing that is better now than in 2010. I cannot name one thing that is better now than in 2010; no-one can, because nothing is. And let’s nail the employment lie: when people have three ‘zero-hours’ jobs and still have to use food banks, there is a colossal problem with un(der)employment.

Our schools are falling down.

Great to see Femi calling truth to power.

Labour will not deliberately undermine the economy. That’s progress

Too much has been lost since 2010 socially but instead the Tories have strengthened their own control across what's left to prevent reversals of any sort.

more excuses please - it was not difficult to steal our tax money and give to their pals, was it?

Er no what a daft question we had the number one performing health care system in the world fourteen year's ago .

My kids school struggle to afford stationery, everytime they want a school trip we have to raise funds our selves, as far as educating the kids are concerned the teachers and T/A are excellent and my kids are doing well. But the schools need better funding the teachers need more support - and I could go on and say the same thing about NHS and lots of other public services. TIME FOR CHANGE.

The guy that said he's too young to remember, is just insulting us, m0r0n

Rock on Femi 💚🤘

Schools are better? You what 😂😂😂😂

Better!? Defunded NHS, inability to get a NHS dentist or GP appointment; mortgages out of the reach of all but the very well paid ; rents skyrocketed; utilities bills skyrocketed; student loan debts skyrocketed; police stations closed and a decrease in the actual police on the beat; courts closed so delays in trails; prisons overflowing with early releases; food price increases with quality of fresh food declining; sewage filled rivers and coasts; road infrastructure shockingly bad; train service worse and way more expensive; inequality disgraceful grown ; food bank boom; town centres boarded up and shabby; councils so underfunded they go bankrupted, and the biggy, BREXIT. The list could be endless and with national debt and taxes never been so high - where has that money gone ? And the first guy says some kids can read better and the Tories have been dragged kicking and screaming to raise green standards ( let’s not forget the ban on onshore windfarms and green subsidies), so they have achieved. Please enough of everyone is the same, not true, and Covid ( borderline cooperate manslaughter levels of corruption and ineptitude ) and Ukraine. It’s scary some Tory supporters are this deluded and/ or complacent. How bad has it got to be before the penny drops ?

The ONLY thing that is better now is that we NOW have something to look forward to,,, "THURSDAY"

Transform CHAOS into ORDER, PEACE, QUIET & UNITY 🌹VOTE FOR CHANGE 🌹 🌹VOTE LABOUR🌹

@richard-gn3es

4 күн бұрын

Labour are Tory lite... Nothing will really change sadly. But yeah might as well because you literally can't vote Tory huh

In 2010 there were more branches of McDonald's than there were foodbanks. Of course things are better 😅

Oh a Daily telegraph writer with his rose coloured glasses on

So the Conservative Lord points to the law and human rights as being what has stopped the Tories making people's lives better!

What a balanced panel 😂

They wouldn't let the lady talk. The guy in glasses simply talked over her.

It depends. If you're a billionaire like Soonout, then yes. For the rest of us....well, do I need to even bother?

Anyone else confused about "they've done well with schools"? Schools are closing, collapsing (literally) and have seen the largest teacher exodus in memory.

Are things better now than in 2010? Im so fed up of even entertaining this question the answer is blatantly no... The country is worse.. stop asking the question start stating the fact. And stop acting like the tories can even win.. how about you talk about whoever is set to he in second place vs labor and move on.

When he says school have got better, does he really mean ' methods of measuring school performance have been changed'?

The fact we even have to ask this question says it all

Not one single person on that pannel that is in touch with anything in this country

What about Austerity Mr Telegraph

The effects of austerity are being felt today. In 2010 we were part of Europe. Today we are not, life is worse

Can't say I feel sorry for anyone who's upset because the expensive private school they send their kids to is going to get 20% more expensive. Meanwhile people are struggling just to survive

has life gotten better under the Tories since 2010? The answer will depend on who you ask. Ask the small amount of people at the top and they will say yes it has. Ask the vast majority of working class people and they will tell you no l, it hasn't.

no body thinks green targets are inportant ...or wants it

It's like these people live in a different reality as they are ALL sat there nodding along that the tories have made schools better. Accepting that nonsense as fact. When we all know it's an outright lie. Assaults in schools have risen dramatically year on year since way back in 2015, long before covid or the war in Ukraine. The two favourite tory excuses. Funding has been cut dramatically, with pupils £5000 worse off during the course of their school years and finally we now have over 12% of young people not in education, employment or training. It doesn't matter what the government body says about schools being 'outstanding' and it all being a massive success if the outcome of the system is more people not in work or education, it's obviously failing. But even the pro labour, left wing, commentators on the panel don't point this out and instead echo this mass delusion that 'education has got better'. Across all forms of media people want authenticity and it's something that is completely lacking in current politics and the wider debate that surrounds it. Maybe that's why a radio show based predominantly on the public calling in and speaking unfiltered has become so popular and maybe LBC should remember that's why people tune in. Not to listen to people who don't seem to share the same universe as the rest of us.

Before the Tories came in I was a youth worker - and the team I led dealt with the fall out of six suicides, dealt with county lines, teenage pregnancy, homelessness, helped loads of young people become employable and hooked them up with work etc. We worked alongside Careers Workers, Extended Schools Workers, Education Welfare Officers, Community Outreach Teams, Surestart Centres, detached teams of workers engaged in drug awareness, homelessness etc out on the streets. All of it now gone. Yet they tell us education is a success. Not if you're one of those kids who doesn't fit the one size fits all that schools are forced to use (due to National Curriculum and drive to hit academic targets) How many more suicides have gone unreported since? (We were a rural team and rural young men remain at the highest risk of suicide in England (UK?) due to the social fabric of village life being destroyed by gentrification, twinned with access to shotguns)

Saying that they don’t have a mandate with a huge majority is pretty evident you don’t understand the system. The majority is the mandate in this system.

Strange how some of these "expert's" have suddenly changed their view on the Tory party isn't it.

Femi talking a lot of sense.

The Telegraph used to be a serious publication. The guy with the glasses is embarrassing himself and his employers

They have taken low paid workers out of tax. Shame that by not increasing the tax threshold, they will put them back in it.

@SlowhandGreg

4 күн бұрын

The reason the threshold happened in the 1st place was a Lib Dem condition of coalition as soon as they had total power it started sliding

@iangascoigne8231

4 күн бұрын

@@SlowhandGreg Shame them allowing the Torie to inflict austerity, triple tuition fees and introduce the bedroom tax undid that.

@SlowhandGreg

4 күн бұрын

@@iangascoigne8231 In 2012 Osborne was told Austerity was shrinking the economy and the economic paper it was based on was debunked at that time Clegg needed to dissolve the coalition for a mandate for more pain. Even the IMF a bastion of neoliberalism was making the case for more investment

@iangascoigne8231

4 күн бұрын

@@SlowhandGreg Make excuses for them.

@SlowhandGreg

4 күн бұрын

@@iangascoigne8231 no they did wrong the electorate punished them for it now they've changed tack

Poor Iain he can't believe what's happening.

@nigelbennett5446

4 күн бұрын

He’s out of his depth

@dean8282

4 күн бұрын

MP Dale you mean?

@nigelbennett5446

4 күн бұрын

@@dean8282 yep. He just looks as weak interviewer - if that’s what he is?

@stockbag

4 күн бұрын

Shame on him, presenting himself as a 'journalist'.

Schools got better they're falling down

I wonder if on Friday when the tory gravy boat sinks if it will be remembered in the same way as the sinking of the titanic??

So the tories argument now is that it's hard to do stuff in govt. Taking the easy path achieves nothing, we need a govt that's going to take these difficult decisions around planning and Europe

Something else we are all (myself included) neglecting to address to some degree, is that governments aren’t the only force that drives change. The world is so complex and even with the best government, a global financial crisis, or a pandemic can easily negate any attempts to make life better.

Should not even be a debate. If anything it provides more discussion as to why people should not vote Tory.

I know a lot of struggling parents who send their kids to private schools because they want to give their kids the best. It's not just the super rich who send their kids to private schools.

cAME here to see if there is ANYTHING better than 2010 because i actually want to be wrong now

better schools really,as long as the building does not collapse around you

So if you pull levers in government and nothing happens this means one of two things. 1. The levers you are trying to pull are not lawful or passable amongst your peers in the House of Commons or 2.There is no point in a government

@johnrussell3961

4 күн бұрын

Many levers were disconnected after the war. Empire ended. British imperial rule was replaced by global and European cooperation.

3:49 - Phonics was a transformative idea that has improved reading standards. But two things. Firstly, it was an initiative first brought in in 1998 by a Labour government. The Conservatives are taking credit for introducing the 2012 screening check which is like taking credit for introducing SATS tests. They can not be credited for the implementation of Phonics. Secondly, as much as it helps with reading, it has actually led to a slight decline in standards of spelling.

I wonder if Blair would mention Iraq in his biggest mistakes.

Schools are BETTER? Schools are collapsing due to the Tories cancelling the project to rebuild these dangerous schools it’s only by chance that the collapses have occurred outside of school hours

The privately educated have a stranglehold on politics and that needs to change. I would love to see more working class people studying politics and becoming the next generation of leaders.

The Tories think that schools are doing better because they got one bit of the curriculum changed for one subject and it was a moderate success. Meanwhile STEM outcomes are declining, STEM teachers are leaving the profession in droves, staff morale hit rock bottom around 2015 and has been digging ever since, school staff wages (teachers and support staff) are approximately 15% down in real terms vs 2010.

Unfortunately the damage of leaving the eu cannot be reversed easily. Even if we could rejoin the single market. Trust has been destroyed

In terms of talking sense, Femi was way above the rest. 2nd was the former Labour advisor and then the other 2 in joint last.

If you were already rich - then yes!

I'm old enough to remember Tim repeating the "iT wAs jUSt sOmE cAKe" gaslighting campaign

People are fighting over crumbs! What we need, is to ensure that people have what they need, so that there's enough, removing the need to fight. This is basic stuff, that the Tories have deliberately ignored because of their selfishness. A more equal distribution of wealth would remove the hot buttons that the far right have been pushing!

Really strange no is praising all the country’s brexit benefits 😂😂

Schools are better ? Hahahahahaha

@uniquerebeljaney3639

4 күн бұрын

He's obviously talking about the schools that aren't falling down.

Better for the rich, worse for the rest of us - there's no doubt about that! Anybody who thinks otherwise must be deluded!!

The worst.

SCHOOL'S HAVE GOT BETTER??? What world does he live on?

Telegraph guy thinks schools have got a lot better in England, that would be the ones that are not falling down yet I suppose. And, just by the way, life in most EU countries is noticably better than it was in 2010. Tories get away with saying all Western countries are suffering like the UK because most people in the UK don't have direct experience of life outside the UK so cannot see the lie for themselves.

Most GPs are leaving as soon as they can. Many from abroad jabe añreasy left.