Buys an Evisu jacket with the largest logo ever made; complains about the small Bravestar star 😂

@markfox6786

Жыл бұрын

I was kinda thinking that too

@TonySop

Жыл бұрын

Checkmate 😅

Sometimes price justifies quality, sometimes it doesn’t. And as a consumer and a denim dude I found that in most cases raw denim doesn’t have a precise universal measurement of quality when quality can be partially defined by marketing. After trying many brands I’ve come to realise that what really counts is the time that I can live in my jeans comfortably and in an aesthetically pleasing way to myself. Also being able to have a channel like this is priceless, looking forward to new contents

Hey another great video! Brave Star where my gateway denim. I had a great experience with them. Cool fades. Got them right before Cone Mills shut down. My customer service experience was great as well. This was a few years ago now, but the guys there were really cool! They actually answered the phone! And helped me with sizing! Great beginner jeans! Actually just great denim. I still have a black beater pair in the rotation. Cheers, keep up the great work!

I ordered my first pair of brave star jeans and should arrive sometime in Feb. I am very excited. My entry pair of raw Denim is a pair of Naked and Famous Dirty Fade jeans. I am hooked. But also as someone from So.Cal, I love the idea of supporting a company based in LA. I am only just beginning my fashion journey but these videos have helped me a lot, thank you

@snakeindigo7085

2 жыл бұрын

N&F Dirty Fades are very good. Left Hand Twill looking good too!

Glad to see brave star get some love. They were my gateway jeans, and still in my rotation. From what I understand based on the 5 pairs I've purchased, your pair was not cone mills denim. Three of them have been in the Cone Mills denim, and all of them had an additional tag inside the waist with the Cone Mills logo. As far as the customer service goes. The only interaction i had with them was pretty bad. My issue was resolved, but they took so long with evey reply that it took over a month to fix what should have taken a few hours. In thier defense this took place during the pandemic so staffing could very likely be an unavoidable issue.

@waynekoren828

2 жыл бұрын

You are totally right about the Cone Mills tag above the American Made tag inside the waistband. On my Type II Badlands jacket, it's on the inside patch pocket.

@jonathanr7086

2 жыл бұрын

I actually had a pretty good customer service interaction with them. I ordered the Ironside Sherpa in Large because I typically wear large in all tops, but I'm realizing I'm actually an XL now that I've been lifting a lot heavier and I've gained some mass. So I returned it and I didn't even do the return correctly, just stuffing it in a box and mailing it out with no order number or information anywhere. I sent an email to customer service, and they said "no problem" and issued the credit as soon as the got the jacket back.

@stevethecatcrx1

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanr7086 i definitely dont people to think they have bad costumer service. I love me some brave star, I've got three of thier jackets and 5 pairs of thier pants. But I figured it would help to share my personal experience. From what ive heard they were short staffed last year and that. The issues with costumer service should be resolved now.

@RB-pm2ni

Ай бұрын

Damn, you don’t like the star should’ve never ordered them. I think that’s a low blow.

@stevethecatcrx1

Ай бұрын

@@RB-pm2ni who said anything about not liking thier products?

Bold to say a little embroidered start is too much when you own an evisu jacket

Gustin has way more QC issues is in my experience, and the fits don’t work for me at all. Have had excellent experiences with Brave Star jeans and jackets. Awesome,

@siblilngs101

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve had two pairs of Gustin jeans and wasn’t all that impressed with one of the pairs. It never faded all that great and the fit was a lot tighter than what the description gave. Their shirts are good quality but jeans are meh.

@josephlatona4495

2 жыл бұрын

Yea my gustins where way baggier than I was expecting. Not impressed at all, especially with how long I had to wait for them. Literally wore them one time. Just too damn baggy and long for me.

@james-broderick

4 ай бұрын

Good to know! I was looking at their rainbow denim because they're absolutely beautiful. Would you recommend or not?

First off, I love the embroidered star. With that said, You need to get a new pair to try out, there is a reason those Cone Mills denims are legendary. Everything used to be made from it but since the closing of Cone Mills, they have added the most affordable Japanese denim I've seen.

@sourbluecowdog

Жыл бұрын

Vidalia mills in Louisiana has most of the old cone mills looms and is making selvage denim for several brands.

Still waiting for your Evisu video! Because I have been binging on your video and looking for my first pair, I came across Red Tornado and they were, for the price, a good pair of jeans! Thanks for all the tips! Made it easier for me to make my first purchase!

Love Bravestar. I have a couple of pairs, along with some hoodies, Ts etc.. Amazing quality, at a very fair price. Just thinking about to order their previewed 22oz..

FWIW, My customer service experience with them was great! I had a rivet pop off the coin pocket on a pair of 21.5oz jeans that were only a week or so old. They responded quickly, I sent them back, they were fixed and returned promptly. I'm in the US so cant speak for international sales.

I visited their shop in El Segundo and they were having a sort of warehouse sale. Found a real gem right there, $50 for a cone mills denim in my size and fit as well!

I have their type 2 Badlands jacket in heritage black cone mills and just received some 16.5 oz Japanese "uppercuts" yesterday and I love them both. Great quality, and awesome attention to detail. The price is mind-blowing for what they are. I've heard they have some QA issues here and there but so does every brand. Best of all, I ordered my 16.5 oz with a hem and they still shipped them SAME DAY some how. It took unbranded 2 weeks to get me my order without a hem and those were no where near as nice as these. The pocket bags on mine are substantial, almost a canvas like feel to them, akin to the hickory picket bags on my unbranded slubs. The denim has a lot of character and it's a nice cowboy dark indigo rather than the super dark you see on many bands these days. The leather patch is ridiculously thick, like 3/8ths inch. For the regular taper I find the rise to be better than almost anything unbranded or n&f offer. Back rise is 14.5 inches on the reg taper. The jacket is my favorite piece of clothing I currently own, I love the style and fit. The inside weft is surprisingly soft and the pleats on the front and back are well done and sturdy. I definitely reccomend the brand if you can look past the QA issues and customer service complaints. If you're in the US it's a no brainer.

@davidfurnival176

2 жыл бұрын

Just received the same jacket in indigo, love it

Evisu hand painted bird is unique and bold but the star on the Bravestar is too in your face?

Currently wearing my 17oz cone mills right now! Got them years ago but didn’t like the cut. Now I’ve grown into them and now they’re my project pair

I have had a pretty good experience with Bravestar customer service. Had a button break when I received them and one pair that was mis-sized. They were great to deal with. They did ask for pictures of the jeans with a tape measure on sizing question. After that they replaced them. The True Straight size seems to be the best fit for me. And I'm long torso'd with thicker legs as well. Unrelated but would love to see a review of Uskees. They seem to be up your alley in terms of look/style

love both Gustin and bravestar. gustin is simple no frills but offer a tremendous array of cone mills and japanese fabrics. one of my favorites from gustin is the cone black stretch. 79 bucks and havent seen that fabric anywhere else. bravestar did a run of cone natural indigo 16 oz a while back those are my favorites from them. im also still waiting on a usa black teacore leather badlands jacket from bravestar only around 500 bucks, not bad i think.

I love their Jean's, but I LOVE their jackets. I have a type III sherpa (IRONSIDE) in double black and a type II in cone mills indigo. Both of them had a lot of long threads, but, a pair of scissors, a lighter, and 5 minutes takes care of that. For $170 US, it's worth it. Get used to stares and compliments when you wear the type II.

@jthomas4697

2 ай бұрын

Oh yeah I was so unprepared for the looks wearing my brand new ironside cone mills ... it had presence. Still does, just the weathered look demands a more discerning eye.

I’ve bought 5 pair of Brave Star off Poshmark for really cheap and a few were brand new. I like that brand. Very well made.

Not sure if you already have but you have to do a video on Left Field NYC next!! Pretty affordable, great quality, and lots of cool details.

I have never had an issue with any of the Bravestar jeans I have purchased. Which means I do not have any experience with their customer service. Over the years they have offered some fantastic denims from lightweight to 20+ oz heavyweights at great prices. I typically go for their Japanese selvedge but did buy a few Cone denims when the factory was shut down. Bravestar offers 5 jean fits, from skinny to straight. Fit descriptions with measurements are posted on their site. I also like their selvedge chinos and denim jackets.

Just placed my 3rd order recently and I had a good experience with customer service. In my case they replied fast and I never had an issue with my orders. first one was the 21.5 oz Regular Tapered, 2nd was the 21.5 oz. Sequoia Ironside Jacket and next one is gonna be the 13.5 oz double black Slim Tapered :)

Bought a pair and shipped them to Chile (south america). Had some problems with local Customs and Bravestar support was super helpfull. At the end they sent me a new pair.

Going off topic here, but the more I see that Benzak tee, the more I love it. Beautiful colour.

I am very new to selvage denim. I am also sitting here wearing a Brave Stare Ironside jacket. They are pretty clear (and it seems a bit rudely stated) on their site.... that if anything happens in shipping you are on your own. But they also charge you a $2.75 shipping insurance fee that I was not able to remove from my cart. I didn't have any issues, and I do enjoy the jacket, but I was worried about their lack of customer service. I personally would have filed a claim with my CC company if anything went wrong in shipping, as I never received the product it would not be my responsibility to fix any issues. As someone who does a fair amount of business selling on the second hand market (when you do reviews this is something we all deal with), it is my responsibility when something goes wrong when I am the seller/shipper. So they assume responsibility until it is in my position. And they can eat the charge back if they are not going to help.

What Portland jersey is that? born and raised there, don't recognize it. thanks for the BraveStar review BTW.

The Brave Star shipping problem is because package theft is rampant in California. From my experience their customer service is amazing. Last pair I ordered from them I screwed up. They fixed it and didn't delay my order. Next fall I'll be getting a 21oz Ironside and possibly other stuff in the mean time.

Brave and Gustin are both outstanding but both have small brand issues from time to time. They have always corrected the issues best to there ability the hard part is wanting more as customers we expect the world from them lol. Brave has jackets best in class with shape and style that star ⭐️ is gold once you get your pair going jeans or jackets. Gustin has extra options besides straight denim. My favorite cone natural black jeans from Gustin super well done brave added cone natural black to a badlands jacket I compared both to confirm they are both cone mil from the white Id was just curious to see if they were using a similar batch lol the sad part is cone mil denim is running low from both companies so buying what I can as it come up

went to the LA showroom and get couple pair of Brave star ,, I can tell you , they are dammmm Good , I' am very happy with the price and quality

Bravestars are really good for their price. They will even have some limited pre order stuff that's cheaper than their regular stock stuff. Customer service has been great with me. Had a button fly hole done wrong and they replaced them no questions. Sometimes they'll even turn around hemming same day your jeans arrive if that person is there. Their 21oz are great faders. Japanese denim. They also get some unique denims from time to time.

How about Brave Star’s ⭐️ rise? The website says it’s about 11.5 inches for my size, which seems mid to high rise to me; I like low rise better. Any thoughts in this respect? Thanks

Great review. I've had four items from them shipping to UK with no issues. Their type III is built incredibly well and is cut far better than an equivalent 3sixteen at over twice the price.

Ive had a pair sent to brazil and had no problems. The patch and the star look great imo. If only they had some high rise models, id get another

@trmbtrmb

Жыл бұрын

I’d like to have them send to Brazil. Did they send regular mail? Did you pay import tax?

Have you heard about sauce zhan jeans? Quite good quality for the price with all denimheads features

Matt, I wanted to ask a question about soaking, and thought this might be the best video to get a reply on. Because of where I live being a bit damp and cold, drying jeans after a soak can take upwards of 3 days which is frustrating, would putting the jeans in the washing machine for a gentle spin cycle inside out after a soak risk giving me the dreaded vertical streaks? Is it best to just wait and not cave to my impatience? I think the bravestar's look great, and I'd cop but I'm tiny and I'd need like a waist 27 in their sizing... Oh well

@TheoRossifier

2 жыл бұрын

I had this issue with soaking and I just try to wash them on delicate inside out.

One thing i havent seen content creators mention in regards to why Brave Star and also Naked and Famous Jeans are so popular are the sizes. As a guy with about a 40-42" waist right now, the 2 brands i mentioned are honestly some of the only brands with jeans easily available in my size! One of my Grail brands is SugarCane Jeans; but im gunna have to lose some weight first. Not so with Brave Star & Naked and Famous. I'm incredibly grateful for that. That said, BOTH brands need options with a much higher rise!!!

If you don't like Bravestar's embroidery how will you get on with Pure Blue Japan's leaf motif?

Matt, do you have to pay for customs, etc., on US imports in Germany the way I do in Britain? I'm too pissed now having paid too many additional costs just to shop in good American stores. For instance, I was wanting a pair of Brave Star ages ago and a pair of Grant Stone Moc Toe boots but I have just been finding it too difficult to buy them. Directly, I would have to pay duties and elsewhere I just can't find them new. Any tips m8? I mean , it's no biggy, I have enough and if I really want something new I'll just buy an alternative. I agree with that ugly looking star but hey ho I've seen worse and they just seem to have a really good rep.

@CeeAreDee

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Always get stung on customs charges. And I think it’s even worse here in Germany.

My all black sherpa jacket from Bravestar was falling apart after only 2 weeks' worth of wear. Stitching coming out all over the place. I had to snip and singe a LOT of loose strands from buttons, button holes, and places where the sherpa was sewn to the denim. It looked a mess and some of the button holes were very much compromised and on their way to getting even worse, I could see. When I placed my hands into the pockets, my fingers where able to push around the parts where the button studs connected to the fabric and so I was careful to not move my hands around too much so as to not damage those areas and cause damage. It felt so weak. Sold that disappointing piece of "selvedge" before it became unsellable. After experiences with RGT, 3Sixteen, and especially Iron Heart, it's hard to settle for something so mediocre. What this "Man in Black" jacket had going for it is that no one else, at the time, was selling an all black raw denim sherpa type 3. It's a cool combo but the execution has serious quality issues. If you are new to the selvedge world or are used to mall-quality denim then you might not notice. Getting into higher end selvedge is an expense rabbit hole which you will never be able to free yourself from.Do yourself a favor and just stick to lower end, entry level quality which Bravestar seems to be putting out. Perhaps the other offerings they have are better. I don't know. I'll also mention I had placed an order for their 20 oz hoodie. When I had received it after a month's pre-order wait time, I weighed the hoodie against my 3Sixteen hoodie, advertised as 500 grams which may be about 17 ounces, of the same size and found the 3Sixteen hoodie to weigh more. Felt like weight from Bravestar was being falsely advertised but even if it was just a difference in overall weight due to differences in materials, it just hadn't felt like the overall quality was where it needed to be. It was very basic.

I believe brave stars have an interior tag with the denim type and cut, however if they’ve been worn/washed a lot it probably won’t be legible anymore

I have some Cone Mills Brave Star and if they're from Cone Mills, there will be a white patch on the inside of the waistband that says A Cone Denim Greensboro, N.C.

I got like 3 pair of them all in 16oz 2 in slim taper and one regular taper

If you are a 32 waist you will want a size 30 in Brave Star sizing. Going down 2 sizes is true across the board for Brave Star sizing.

Currently have 3 pair of brave star jeans. I absolutely love them. Are they the best of best? No not exactly but they are certainly high quality and are worth every penny.

@sdsurfs

Жыл бұрын

How should you size it? I’m 30x30, just get 30 waist?

Those look like Cone Mills 12oz Woodsman based on your description of the weight and the white selvedge ID.

@CeeAreDee

Жыл бұрын

Nice. Ended up moving them on but I hope the new owner sees that.

Shipping US to Western Europe is usually safe. Im guessing Brave Star had some problems shipping to other countries with packages disappearing.

Hey buddy, can you recommend a store to get leather catch all's and leather trays at a affordable price, the ones at &Sons are way overpriced.. thank you. Also, it looks like 80's style faded loose fit jeans are coming back in style , here in US.. they are so ugly, what do u think?

I wanted to get the brave star sequoia 21.5 oz but after doing some reading on Reddit it seems like there’s been occasional quality issues and allegedly the owner is some crazy guy, grabbed myself another pair of N&F

They shipped to Me in Thailand very quickly and don’t have any problems .

I’ve got the super heavy weight and lord it’s been over a year and they’re still stiff and not very worn in lol

Being in Britain, I think ill stick with Nudies if i want a cheap pair of raw denim, you get free repairs for life + discount if you trade them in, same with iron heart but if i want something expensive

Customer service is expensive with them. But it is with most other companies I've dealt with.

Have you ever reviewed Unbranded jeans?

@CeeAreDee

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. But I know them and I can say they are good.

Dig the Portland shirt. I live in Portland next to Ship John, you would really like them. Heritage style, American made and just great stuff. Ship John, check them out.

I’ve had a lot of issues with the consistency of fit and measurements on Bravestar jeans. Seems to be all over the place. Their Badlands jacket though is incredible for the price and I would highly recommend it in any iteration. Gustin is really not great. They’re like a step above J Crew at their best, worse than Uniqlo at the worst. I think that they put too much time and money into sourcing fabrics, not enough into QC. If someone is looking for entry point selvedge I would suggest they just spend a little more and try TCB or Benzak

@jonathanr7086

2 жыл бұрын

What specific issues have you had with Gustin? I have two pairs of pants from them, 5 t-shirts, a henley, and an oxford, and I really like all of them. The oxford is an L Classic Fit and fits just a bit tight, so in the future I'm going to get XL button-downs from them.

@jawntanamo_bae

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanr7086 the construction. It’s about the same level I have seen in the above mentioned brands. It’s not bad for the price, but long term I would rather spend more for heavier duty construction.

The one thing that really annoys me about bravestare jeans is that the pocket bags peak out when I walk.

Good quality Jeans but I don't think there Quality Assurance and Costumer service are all that good. My jeans came with a defect and they did nothing about it... Probably won't buy from them again. If I do though I am going to look very carefully at the quality of my pair and make sure it looks pristine before I even touch it.

Are there any denim discord servers?

I have bought multiple items from Brave Star and had no issues. Just saying.

@CeeAreDee

Жыл бұрын

It’s a shame they can’t sort out the shipping and customer service. Otherwise it would be a great brand.

I've owned a few pairs of jeans from Brave Star and sold all but one. I wasn't happy with the denim used for the other pairs and the one I kept is a 14.5oz Cone Mills in True Straight. It's an excellent fit and a great denim, though I do wish it was heavier. Brave Star's customer service is so awful that I refuse to purchase anything new from them. I don't care how cheap something is, if you make - you stand by it. And that ain't Brave Star. Their phone number is for looks only and get used to waiting a loooong time between email replies.

@rpkiller2489

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah their phone number doesn't work and it took a couple weeks for them to respond because I kept sending them messages and apparently it would reset my place in the customer service queue which I'm not sure if it was true or not. I bought two pairs of the double black slim straights in a size 36 and only received one of two and didn't fit at all. I was able to buy like four pairs of jeans from their Black Friday sale with the store credit they gave me which is amazing, I just hope I get them all and they fit. The wait time for the fit I bought was January now it's February, so I'm hoping I get them sometime this month.

@rpkiller2489

2 жыл бұрын

And they just got back to me, they said they shipped me my jeans and the shipping service lost them So now I need to chose a different style in production or get store credit. :(

Alittle Vinegar really neutralizes smell of dank smelling fabric.

Dude, you need to do something about that cactus, you cannot have a cactus not properly centered in its pot :/

They are a good brand, they never have anything in stock though

@CeeAreDee

2 жыл бұрын

Works on pre order it seams.

Those aren't cone mill denim if there is no cone mill tag in them. That said, they are Japanese denim. Brave Star jeans are awesome but, it's true they need to hire more people to improve customer service. Also, they need to start putting some sort of fit and weight indication in there jeans. If you have more than 2 pair it's hard to tell the weight. Other than that they're great.

Look at the inseam. That’s where they save money.

My got to brand wearing 25oz for winter

@CeeAreDee

2 жыл бұрын

Those are some heavy jeans!

My guess is the brand in the video title

@CeeAreDee

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah... I was going to be a little more mysterious with the title when I filmed it... but then on reflection it would be hard to search for if someone wants to find out about Brave Star.

I liked the star on their black jeans, as it was also black. But that star in bright orange is quite obnoxious.

Unbranded brand is about the same price range as well I think

@johnnyregs2378

2 жыл бұрын

They are. I own a couple pairs of both brands and overall the quality and experience of dealing with Bravestar has been LEAGUES better than Unbranded.

Rise is terrible tho... as my first real denim I'm glad I tried again.

Still remember their customer service’s condescending and accusatory email in regards to my bad review. They wouldn’t answer my emails until my review. Would never recommend this brand to anyone

@CeeAreDee

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. The brand really seems to be let down by that part of the business.

@rjbean13

2 жыл бұрын

I also had that experience.

They fit for twinks.. every cut is slim and tapered.

@CeeAreDee

Жыл бұрын

The straight is ok for a slim straight. The slims tho. I’m not sure who can fit that.

You didnt see chain stich in waist area

@yasardoganay2889

Жыл бұрын

Actually i like this detail.

@CeeAreDee

Жыл бұрын

Miet have missed it.

My guess is that they are a pair of denim jeans.

@CeeAreDee

2 жыл бұрын

Good guess.

Im guessing... Jordache

iron hart

I have $400 nudies and prefer my $118 bravestars 😬 got 13.5oz broken twill, 14.5oz, 16.5oz, 18oz and 22oz soon.

Totally with you on the embroidered star - really don't like it. Shame because they have some great jeans I would otherwise love to try.

Hate the star logo too.. it looks so feminine. It's so in your face.. especially at the center of the denim jacket backs.

@CeeAreDee

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. It’s a weird choice. Some folk love it though.

The website works terrible on phone.

@CeeAreDee

Жыл бұрын

Mine or the brave star one?

@TheBullFather_ofAll

Жыл бұрын

@@CeeAreDee brave star their website is clunky

I’ve just ordered my first pair of BS, had to exchange a pair of the slim tapper slubtober cone mills for a bigger size but their customer service was awesome they worked with me and set a pair in my size aside until my first pair arrived.

If your brave star order get lost or stolen. You are fucked and I’m speaking from experience. At first they there’s nothing they do. Then they told me they would take care of me. Then backtrack and said theirs nothing they can do. I still don’t have my order or refund.

Their customer service is awful!

Dude talks way too much!

ya but with that pocket star.... you gotta understand LA. thats totally LA. social signaling.

Confirmed, their customer service sucks ass

Brave Star is legit. Before you pull the trigger on a pair of Lucky or Gap, give these a solid look. You’ll be much happier in a year.