Are The New Hand Cannons Any Good? (Season of the Deep)
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In this video I review Spare Rations, Epochal Integration, Targeted Redaction, Combined Action and the newly refreshed Nation of Beasts to find out which ones are worth chasing.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - The Five New Hand Cannons
0:07 - Spare Rations
1:35 - Epochal Integration
3:52 - Targeted Redaction
5:39 - Combined Action
7:43 - Nation of Beasts
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So yeah - for those wondering where the new Hand Cannons place on the not-tier list, hope this gives you a bit of an idea. What should I review next? Btw live this week! twitch.tv/ascendantnomad
@crabbit.
Жыл бұрын
Do another pulse rifle not tier list
@pikeygo4738
Жыл бұрын
Onto targeted redaction....stasis, next up combined action
@slot0it
Жыл бұрын
You should check out the new recoil patterns for bad juju, maybe it's better?
@scott_money3543
Жыл бұрын
What u mean nation of beasts can 2 tap in pvp with collective and opening shot
@lafayettefrancois178
Жыл бұрын
It's nice to have a rough comparison early on in the season especially for deciding, "am I going to farm x or craft y or stick with what I already have"
Mindbenders and Spare Rations both returned weaker than their past, these truly are the dark times.
@Darkwolf12328
Жыл бұрын
Mindbenders has potential, though with the focus Fury buff
@rylandercoleman2740
Жыл бұрын
@@Darkwolf12328 do you mean fragile focus?
@mslay-ultra1802
Жыл бұрын
Yes, having better weapons than we had a few years ago is such a bummer.
@Interwentions
Жыл бұрын
Really is sad to be honest
@angieainsworth7216
Жыл бұрын
NO WAYYYYYYY
I’ll go against the grain and say that personally, if the weapon FEELS good to use, then it’s worth using as long as you can acknowledge that there are better potential options. I’m loving the epochal integration for this reason, plus it looks cool as hell
@KalarMeadia
Жыл бұрын
I'll second this. And follow up with there a sliding difference in hand cannon criticism depending on difficulty. You can easily still do well through heroic with a hand cannon, especially if pairing with an ability heavy build and something that does splash damage like fire/dragonfly, volt shot, etc to offset the slower ttk. It's at legend and higher that makes it truly unbearable and still really undertuned. Still, if it's your comfort pick and you don't mind slower legend lost sectors, you do you. I'd keep it out of non-matchmade under level though
@joako3733
Жыл бұрын
@@KalarMeadia i don’t think he was talking about PvE
@JUNIsLuke
Жыл бұрын
If it feels good you can do good but there might always be better I love using unique weapons all the time but there’s times I gotta sweat it up a little when I need to do good instead of having fun
@ech0e404
Жыл бұрын
@@joako3733 I was referring to just general play, PvE and PvP. If you like how it feels, then use it
@ruijikisu
Жыл бұрын
i think he wouldnt disagree, considering he rated zaoulis bane really low in a recent video because he just doesnt like the feel, kinda the same thing
Your style is sufficiently different from most of the creators out there that I think you stand out a bit from the crowd. I don't think you'd want to go much shorter than a video like this, but the amount of polish and presentation that you put into your stuff is clearly evident and works pretty well even for a video shorter than your usual fare. Good work, and you've given me some ideas. Thanks!
Honestly I loved that you reviewed these together. Often I find myself just trying to figure out what the new weapons bring to the table, but scrolling through multiple videos can be tedious and time consuming. I'm sure it's much easier to make one video than multiple videos as well. Thank you Ascendent Nomad.
@lt3880
Жыл бұрын
Maybe im being cynical but more videos means more views and more ad revenue. No disrespect to people doing this content that we dont have to pay for.
@WAHRGOHLBRAHGOHL
Жыл бұрын
@@lt3880 I didn't think of it that way. My bad.
@demi1175
Жыл бұрын
completely agree with you
Love this type of video, quick reviews/first impressions, but also leaves room for a deeper dive video after more roles are used/tested. Keep it up!
I think spare rations holds potential in the future for possible buffs to 150s in 140 bodies and the future adjustments to range, and I think targeted redaction can be a consistency machine
@rylandercoleman2740
Жыл бұрын
You mean a 140 in a 150s body?
@Sylph8141
Жыл бұрын
@@rylandercoleman2740 Right, they have buffed the 140s that were ex 150s before, I don't see why they wouldn't again
@Sylph8141
Жыл бұрын
@@rylandercoleman2740 It's not like bungie to bring back a weapon like this without future plans imo, they plan ahead a lot
@Bone-Owner
Жыл бұрын
Hopeful but not holding my breath, though im still gonna grind for the 5/5
@fuckinantipope5511
Жыл бұрын
I am still mad they got rid of 150s. They felt so awesome to use.
This was hugely helpful. Not too long, not a waste of time, but a genuine good "quick hit" summary of each hand cannon. Thanks for making my farming easier this season
I really liked this way of doing a video, just a flat simple explanation of what each thing brings to the table, the good and bad. I’d be down for more videos like this
Great video, love the short reviews of the new stuff. Keep at it!
Loved this kind of review that covers everything really briefly! I think this is great and for the extra special guns they could get their own additional video just covering that gun.
always enjoy your insights and interested to see how your opinion changes when we have a longer period with these guns + using new perk combos/builds
I really like the longer stuff, I think your voice and diction are perfect for long form content and you cover things so well and leave no one misinformed. Love your content broham
Loved this style of video. Super simple, quick thoughts and rough verdict on the new stuff.
Short form loot takes like this are really helpful for early in a season to get a handle on what's worth grinding for and what rolls are worth a try, definitely a form factor I'm into 👍🏼
This video was very helpful. It's a good series to keep up imo. Thank you
This is great, happy to see you upload, content is great as always. More would definitely be cool
I like the overall breakdown of a bunch of weapons!! Great content as always!!
Loved this format of vid. Would be keen to see a whole vid on Combined Action b/c of the interesting perk options
Loved this initial feedback style video!
Really enjoyed this format, coming into the season about 2 weeks late due to some obligations so this has helped a lot with streamlining my play in terms of loot to grind/look for. Would love to see more of these, especially as someone who wants to optimize their time spent prepping for/spent in PvP.
Love the quick & dirty reviews. More like this!
Love this format of quick lowdown on new weapons...👍
You seem genuinely honest. I just subscribed to you. Thank you for this video. Keep up the good work 💪
Loved the new format; great video!
I think this format worked very well and I'd welcome more of it for some quick relatively easy content to slot in between your bigger videos. Thanks mate.
Loved this type of review, gave me an at-a-glance view of what is worth my time and what I can leave on the back burner. 10/10
Liked this format. Quick glimpse of possible rolls, gameplay and essential stat comparison. Very nice, I was hoping dungie would have updated spare rations for the 140 roll but I guess I'll just remember the good old days.😢
Love this format of video, every other weapon reviewer goes over god rolls for weapon sets or deep dives on single weapons, but this video at the start of a season is great.
I like this format. Definitely would like to see this again.
I like this type of videos as an overview, and can do a full review on the outliers
I love the idea of overall archetype reviews like this one for the weapon types that are less-than-meta currently (hand cannons, pulse rifles, etc). And maybe full videos for the specific weapons in the meta categories like SMGs.
I really enjoyed this video format, wouldn’t mind seeing it for other weapon archetypes when new weapons drop
I'm liking this type of videos, the fast paced nature helps me stay interested due to ADHD
In terms of content delivery i like both! Long individual reviews and quick fire multiple weapon reviews
I like this overall presentation, thanks!
always on board for any reviews you have Specifically, i'm good with batch reviews, unless you think a weapon is *really* a stand out, which I'd love to see a full review on
This was great. I would watch a video like this for other weapon families too
Excellent concept. This is a very good way of getting a handle on the new weapons grouping them based on type. Thanks for the tip of frenzy on the 120. I like it but it feels like pushing an elephant over a mountain.
A quick review so I know what to keep in mind, yeah, I'm happy for that.
I love the new Spare Rations. Rapid hit Kinetic Tremors is just so good!
Love this video format.
As a relatively new player to D2 and a new viewer to your channel, I can say that this format is very suiting. Does not overstay its welcome on any weapon, while still being comprehensive enough to get the point across. Well done and keep up the good work :)
New to the channel, but I like these quick and fast comparisons. A bit issues I have every season, especially when new loot comes out, is know what is actually worth chasing and what not to worry about. Please do these for as many weapons as you can.
Was looking for this sort of video shortly after the season dropped, I wasn’t too satisfied with Epochal either. Great video.
I liked this a good bit. I would love to see more like this
I like this format Nomad. Comparing new weapons of the same class is great 👍
Big fan of this style of video. Keep it up, AN.
Excellent format
Quick and to the point. I like it
This is a certified hood crying :c
I liked this early preview of how they MAY end up on the not-tier list. This gives a general sense early on, but not in the typical outright "MUST HAVE GOD ROLL" sense. Its a sensible discussion with no hyperbole and giving viewers an abstract of a review, which would still allow for us (as viewers) to decide whether we want to farm for X hand cannon. More of this please!
really nice format. would prefer this over an entire video dedicated to one hand cannon
Love the quick down and dirty format.
I really liked this video format
Like the format, good analysis, would be interested to hear your take on the other seasonal loot - dad rifles maybe?
Yess this worked and love the format
The lengthier reviews are my favorite destiny 2 content, even as a PvE player. Your weapon videos are what got me to try pvp in the first place, namely the hip fire grip syncopation. This quick and dirty is nice. But it left me with a lot of questions on perk combos that seemed to have been skipped or skimmed over without much detail why they were or weren't ideal. This type of video content might be a good overall thing, then you can break down the most interesting options later in a detailed look like you usually do.
I do like the multi-gun reviews, but I'd also love a deeper dive into the better weapons mentioned in the video. Like a more individual, in depth look, after the multi-gun video. A bonus to that means more content for you!
I actually really like this format of new weapons in a season. Nice job nomad.
I liked this quick roundup but wouldn’t mind individual vids as well! Either way it will be good content :)
I appreciate this type of video
nice vid :) keep up the good work
Definitely want a combined action video
Honestly I love all of these, they all look amazing and feel pretty good
really appreciate this vid.
Great video as always. How about quick and dirty videos first followed by more in-depth for specific guns?
Great video!
Being that you have the amazing resource of the HC not-tier to build upon (and the other not-tiers), these kind of quick overviews are good. We get an easily digested video of what we should be chasing and what we should not waste our time on. Then maybe have a poll and do a deep dive on anything that your community thinks is interesting/ unique perk combo etc. Plus these videos may be easier to update, should a sandbox pass come through. Not-Tiers just need an update after a big change/annually etc.
Quick reminder: Malfeasance got a new catalyst that adds bonus range and vorpal weapon. This weapon became viable again.
@hjw2029
Жыл бұрын
Always has been viable. It's now even better.
I've been using the Combined Action static roll that you get from the Arc New Light quest in PvE and I absolutely love it. Eddy Current is kind of a miss of a perk but it's Voltshot damage is absolutely hilarious. I've been running it on my Fallen Sunstar build in PvE with two surges and it deletes adds in at-level content. It's super fun. The origin trait and Amplified help salvage its low reload making for a very fun gameplay loop.
This was a good video, you should do more
Love the quick and dirty based off archetype for the new gear! Would love to see your thoughts on Pulse Rifles, especially the new Strand Rapid Fire one.
This quick and dirty format was really nice actually. Lasted long enough for me to finish my breakfast. I'd like to see more if thats possible.
Great video idea.
I like this format. My time on Destiny is very limited so I want very quick reviews/ impressions.
I love how spare rations feels and I’m enjoying playing with it. Range could be a bit better but I’m still going to use it because I like it 🤷♂️
@benmccabe1060
Жыл бұрын
It's a headshot machine
@shredstein
Жыл бұрын
@@benmccabe1060 agree. Three tap city. I have hammer forged, rico, moving tgt, opening shot with a stability mw. Honestly only thing I’d swap is mw for range. Slideshot is technically good, but I always get too distracted trying to time my slides and I feel like it makes me play worse. Assume the added AA from moving tgt helps with the crispiness too.
Spare rations has a bit of an interesting PVE option with kinetic tremors. With rapid hit/kinetic tremors, it's felt good and been fun to use as an unstoppable option in lost sectors, at least.
i rly like thi sformat, and would love if you even added a rating oon the not tierlist for the new guns as well, as a sort of update to the hand cannon tier list
This video was great!
Yes Sah, it was good review!
Would love to see this same video with all the new snipers that came out too.
I gotta say, Destabilizing Rounds is *very* nice on Targeted Redaction. I can't remember for the life of me what Well Rounded does, but that also came with it. That might be makint it feel so good for me, though, so if anyone wants a possible solid roll, there ya go.
@sydious_s_snake
Жыл бұрын
Outlaw and destabilising is decent on the crafted version till you end up missing a couple of shots or don't have enough damage to kill in a mag in high end content and get stuck with that abominable reload speed. Wish it had frenzy in first column, would make the thing viable in all fronts, and if not that then demo or something to pair with frenzy in the second column. Missed opportunity to make it the first really decent pve hand cannon
good review like the format and i'm new here :)
I would say quick and dirty reviews like this work great if there's like a group of weapons you wanted to talk about without really getting too in depth with, but would love long form reviews for weapons that really capture you and that you're passionate about. Great vid though, as always.
As someone who loves 120’s I’m glad there’s finally a 120 in the energy slot that’s great. I love the look of the targeted and I’m really looking forward to getting it crafted and getting its ornament. And I love how good it feels, it has basically become my go to energy 120 alongside my true prophecy and loud lullaby for kinetics. I’m just hoping that with this solstice the “something new” becomes better since I love the aesthetic and a kinetic 120 feels awesome.
@hashtagnahbruh
Жыл бұрын
I’ll take my killing wind elemental capacitor igneous hammer over any energy slot 120
@ozonedepleter1672
Жыл бұрын
@@hashtagnahbruh who asked bro
@Nibblerr
Жыл бұрын
@@ozonedepleter1672 L comment
@hashtagnahbruh
Жыл бұрын
@@ozonedepleter1672 who hurt you on the internet today?!
Re: Your question at the end, I really like this faster format giving a handful of weapons at the same time--It's a little more accessible for me ith limited time and not necessarily wanting to listen for 20/30 minutes about a single gun. Deep dives are probably still worthwhile on weapons that deserve it, whether because they're special or they have enough hype around them that the deep dive will be good.
I’m so mad at myself for missing that combined arms roll at banshee I saw it and thought the rolls didn’t change until reset!
just noticed that the pvp footage for Nation of Beasts is from AstralOrAutumn! cool to know that my d2 favs are doing shit together
Great vid❤
This was a good review
I didnt even know nomad could upload this quickly, damn
This was a great video! Maybe a pulse rifle version next? I'm curious to hear your thoughts on Diffrent times and Outlast.
I like this. Can you do a review on all archetypes like this?
Love this form content, with maybe the in depth single weapon breakdowns saved for the real stars of the season?
I think Rations might be getting looked over a bit, especially once the zoom changes hit. The base range isn't good and Stability workable, but definitely under par, but it rolls really strong everywhere else. 71 Handling beats the upper echelon of Kinetic 140s by a pretty wide margin for the most part. Intrinsic 100 Recoil Direction intrinsic is also not too bad, either (if generally not a huge point since 90+ is where most of it's competition is). It's aim assist is also in the same tier as Rose, Fatebringer, and Eyasluna (75 base but sights will give it +5 more often than not), and a decent margin above Austringer. Largest mags in class, too, albeit that's less of a selling point. Origin Trait can help it make up for the pretty low base range, and a Smallbore + Ricochets + Range stat package puts the Range/Stab up to 58/64 base. Little low but still very workable, especially given the Origin Trait boosting range and flinch resist for 2.5 seconds, according to Foundry. I wouldn't count it out, especially after the zoom changes (since it looks like HCs might go to Rangefinder range bands with them).
@logankistler8706
Жыл бұрын
You are completely right, spare rations is mid rn but as soon as the zoom and rangefinder changes happen, people will meat ride it extremely hard, including myself.
@IamArcania
Жыл бұрын
Even with the rangefinder and zoom nerf this thing is still 20-25 range behind other better options. Spare rations is awful
I would sincerely like a deeper dive on these, if possible.
i defiantly like this better than a whole video on a single gun.. but i know a lot of people want more in depth videos on certain weapons that will out perform the other seasonal weapons. so i could reasonably see a good balance of having a video like this as soon as you could when the season is live (i know getting the weapons and then having the time to get the feel of the weapons is just time consuming, so not expecting it day one, or even day 5), and then see where the community lies on the weapons and go towards the weapons/rolls that would stand out above the rest
I never got my Explosive Payload and Moving Target Rose so I am absolutely farming my EP/Keep Away Nation of Beasts.
So for the 120 - it's why I kept a Perpetual Motion/Frenzy roll for Pure Poetry.. Feels incredible with those perks.