More from Hossenfelder on the physics of time, entropy, and immortality: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZIWitNKinrnTn5c.html

@KrystelSpicerMindArkLateralThi

6 ай бұрын

Abiogenesis .. Next question. If for practical purposes we'd not be able to retrieve the info, well why would research into abiogenesis typically be so gross? Look at Einstein's body bit 'phantom-relief' experiment for example. ..Having his brain stolen, chased round the country, cut piece from peace. And look at Reddi's experiment. Could it have something to do with the proximity of to feel 'stupid inside' from the 'epiphany'? Or dead from rich in story? ..it's a very 'life & death' research. I write about 'block time' (checkpoints) & string time (loose ends of wick of the past, which since currently no longer has basis). I wonder that to remember doesn't mean that something happened, but that it hadn't, since a person will find it easy to remember something when they create a story surrounding it. To remember something better, may put it to rest. I wonder that we are actually very small, because we can't fit a whole human in a human. They say that when a person sees a basketball, the mind to save space recalls all basketballs as the same ball .. however I wonder it points to that life is a product of the very excitable & overactive imagination of the very small, & just a phase of death. Perhaps all we see & do over our very short lifespans comparable with mushrooms ..is an illusion, shared between us (each person or thing being just a 'bit', & yet another edge of one thing or another). Is to retrieve information on the dead, so in front of our nose we are information on the dead? ..& to study death not be impractical at all?

@konyvnyelv.

6 ай бұрын

I can't click on the link

@sarahk2722

5 ай бұрын

Hi bigthink, I know you mean nothing by it and it's a small request, but when you post videos of Dr Hossenfelder, would you please include her Dr? She earned a PhD so I think we ought to give her her proper honorific. Thank you!

@mikedunn7795

5 ай бұрын

People who have died will never add new data to the universe,even though what they said up to the point of death may be recorded somehow.

@fryingraijin

5 ай бұрын

@@mikedunn7795 Ehm, wrong. “People” will continue to add to the universe, because “people” is just another constellation of atoms. Every speck is important. And no one is.

Old physicists don’t die, they just become, for all practical purposes, impossible to retrieve.

@mamavswild

Ай бұрын

I feel so dumb sometimes but doesn’t that just mean the same thing? Genuine question. I desperately want to see my son again!

@user-yg5dj5kj2q

Ай бұрын

WHEN THE SPIRIT LEAVES THE BODY WHAT IS THE SPIRIT MADE OF WHAT ELEMENTS IS THE SPIRIT MADE OF ATOMS,NEURONS OR PROTONS AND CAN WE TRACK THE SPIRIT WITH COMPUTERS

@NimerionTech

6 күн бұрын

This means nothing. "Information" doesn't relate to matter, but to sequences. Matter transforms, which causes loss of information. And re-arranges into a different information. We die. But we can get re-arranged one day again. Simply by sheer theory and the fact that you live now and today.

@user-yg5dj5kj2q

5 күн бұрын

IS THE SPIRIT ENERGY OR NON PHYSICAL

You left out the disassembly part about information. We get disassembled, broken back down into our simplest forms and bits. It's like looking at a single pebble on a beach and realizing that it was once a mountain. Also, since humans are 90% made up of other microorganisms, it's not only a person that has deceased, but an entire system of life.

@eddieo6886

Жыл бұрын

i screenshotted this, what a thought provoking comment. thank you.

@mr.somebody1493

Жыл бұрын

@@eddieo6886 I really think what she is describing is teleportation. In order to reassemble the information it would have to first be copied or blueprinted so you knew how it went back together. There are two things that have to be reassembled. The physical parts and memory. What we know from death (cell death) is that once memory is "disassembled" there's no getting it back.

@ivocanevo

Жыл бұрын

​@@mr.somebody1493 I think she's saying that if you could perfectly rewind everything, nothing is lost; not even memories. Though it's hardly reassuring.

@olafbitter3999

Жыл бұрын

Where did you get that 90%? It is about 39 trillion bacterial cells to 30 trillion human cells and even those don't actually build us rather coat us inside and outside. So it's a bit over 50% definitely not 90%.

@mr.somebody1493

Жыл бұрын

@@olafbitter3999 50% or 90% isn't the point I was making. If you suddenly removed all the other microorganisms living in and on the human body, there is a very good chance the human would die, or at least become extremely ill. Not to mention, they (they human) would be now be altered. So any theoretical assembly of the "information" would also have to include all of the microorganisms present, or there would certainly be adverse affects.

"Honey, you're my favorite vessel of arranged information

Thank you, Dr. Hossenfelder. It's so reassuring that all I need to connect with the deceased is to read the entire universe's wave function and just play it backwards.

@AutisticAthena

Жыл бұрын

Actually, as a mother who has lost a daughter, this brings me so much comfort, as "playing it backwards" both figuratively and literally would lead to myself... And there's a comfort in that which is quite profound.

@ssergium.4520

6 ай бұрын

Take that Heisenbergs uncertainty!

@signity5540

6 ай бұрын

I personally find it very reassuring

@ssergium.4520

6 ай бұрын

@@signity5540 ugh I do not because that means people are still being enslaved, mrdrd, the holocaust is still happening 🥲🥲🥲 I wish I was optimistic

@QuantumPolyhedron

5 ай бұрын

There is no universal wave function. Physicalist nonsense.

"A really good computer" is an understatement in the extreme.

@andik70

3 ай бұрын

Yes. It is iike saying you can mix water and ink and you could still unmix it with a very good computer, so the ink is not really mixed.

@royal_gambit_e4

2 ай бұрын

It's like a game of chess. If you can see 20 moves ahead you'll play a move and if you see 50 moves ahead you'll play a different move, wich means that the first move was wrong. Same with computers. A better computer will give better results and the point is that computers advance much faster than humans brain. It will never reach 100%.

@mcasariego

2 ай бұрын

A really good computer and access to whatever that place is where evolution of """the universe wavefunction""" looks unitary. Boring

@AndrewMilesMurphy

16 күн бұрын

I’m not so sure…. It was very recently that humans flew for the first time. Maybe we’ll learn some new amazing things soon. We are capable of much.

And technically the randomized rearranging of atoms on that small of a scale, and if the universe is truly timeless, then you will live an infinite amount of times just by random chance of atoms being arranged in a way that forms a thinking brain that images a world around it

@danocnl

3 ай бұрын

This really brings into light just how crazy it is we exist. And even crazier to think we could exist again and again and again, through complete randomness given enough time.

Energy doesn't die it just transforms

@Georg3e

Жыл бұрын

Do you know what energy is?

@tylerdurden3722

Жыл бұрын

Energy is just a concept. And there are sub-concepts of this concept. Energy doesn't transform, it is classified according to a different sub-concept. This is the concept: "The capacity to do work". We decided to give that concept of "the capacity to do work" a shorter name...energy. E.g. When you say I don't have the energy to deal with these kids, that's very close to what it means in physics as well. It's just a concept and not an actual physical thing. Imagine having to say each time, I don't have the capacity to do work to deal with these kids. Or the bullet has a lot of kinetic capacity to do work. Or that battery stores the capacity to do work in the form of chemical capacity to do work then transforms it to electrical capacity to do work.

@tolgakacgn7079

11 ай бұрын

That means we die as a humans and reborn as an animal or plant?

@krox477

10 ай бұрын

​@@tolgakacgn7079no you're body wears out due to use and it's unable to sustain your consciousness.

@tom-kz9pb

9 ай бұрын

The energy of humans comes from food that you eat. No more eating, no more energy. What last energy that you did have got dissipated into meaningless heat loss as your corpse cooled. That heat energy is not in itself conscious. To reach for immortality, you have to think it out, some more.

I can tell you this, the day my mom died I heard a voice, that I recognize as being the voice of God, tell me that she would die that night. She did but at the time I heard the voice tell me that she would die I broke down sobbing and then I found myself surrounded by figures moving swiftly all around me and felt hands being laid upon my shoulders that comforted me. My mom loved angels and I had asked God ahead of time to send angels to gather her when she passed and He answered. You should know that I am a Christian and so was my mother.

@crypton_8l87

Ай бұрын

These experiences are common across human cultures in every corner of the world.

@sparklesandsmog

Ай бұрын

i cannot tell you how chilled i felt reading this as it has happened to me with my mother, with my father, and with strangers, it is a bit different, but something my brains sees somehow can tell when someone is close to leaving. and now that i sit alone, i live with the regret that even though i knew - i chose to not believe it. i chose to not act with love and purpose and fill their last days with unconditional love... instead i hid away from them. afraid to see them. to face their eyes and to hide my knowledge. i did not want to face their death. face losing my only family. face down death, itself. it is my shame. my darkness for life.

@realist9311

Ай бұрын

@@sparklesandsmogdon’t be so down on yourself if they truly loved you they’d want you to know that you not able to visit and comfort them doesn’t matter and that they love you the same as always and wish you nothing but happiness

If the rules can be applied backwards, then in theory, I should be able to find out what I was before I was born. I think the problem is that, just as we are made up of many things, both before we are born and after we die we become many things again. It is only at this point in time and space that we are what we are.

@wj2036

5 ай бұрын

You were a cheeseburger that eventually ended up as your dad's lunch.

@yevgeniyaleshchenko849

5 ай бұрын

I love it, great way to put it

@cristianm7097

3 ай бұрын

Don't forget that each human body loses and gains countless atoms during its living period too.

@mr.somebody1493

3 ай бұрын

@@cristianm7097 Excellent insight....However, we would only be talking about a single point in time.

@istilius

2 ай бұрын

I think that if we could apply the rules backwards, then we will have to make an enormous number of choices for each step, as if there wasn't a single way to put together the pieces of what once was. It would be impossible to trace the original form without having a formal map of it.

Eh lion king had a good simple answer... "He lives in you"

@DelightfulPager-ro4nw

6 ай бұрын

I tell my girlfriend that after sex 🤡

@DelightfulPager-ro4nw

6 ай бұрын

@@itsmeorwhatever627 don't talk about it

I’m not any sort of a physicist, but i had the thought recently that people we’ve lost still exist in time. What if time and space are like the weft and weave in the fabric of reality, and they still live in a literal ‘place’ somewhere removed from where we are in the present. If we pull the pinpoint in time where we are up and drag it to the place in space and time they exist, like bringing two points on a piece of fabric together, it would close the gap we call the passage of time. Until we figure out how to ‘time travel’ like this, and I’m not sure we should tbh, it’s comforting to think that our loved ones still exist, just in a place we can’t get to. 😊

@Jamezar

3 ай бұрын

I agree with this, according to fabric of the cosmos book time is another dimension like the spacial dimensions that we only perceive ourselves to be moving forward through.

@willkessner2674

2 ай бұрын

I’ve had a very similar thought, based on the Orch OR theory of consciousness and the apparent time-invariance of quantum phenomena

@a6hiji7

Ай бұрын

Time travel is impossible in our universe.

@willkessner2674

Ай бұрын

@@a6hiji7 time travel of matter sure, but information is not as well understood

@user-dj7ju2ce7m

Ай бұрын

Albert Einstein's words after death of his close friend, Michele Angelo Besso: "With the departure from this strange world, he now has gone a little ahead of me. This is of no significance. For us believing physicists, the separation between past, present and future has only the meaning of an illusion, albeit a tenacious one."

Information cannot be destroyed; it just becomes impossible to retrieve”! Isn’t this more philosophy than physics?

@xxportalxx.

5 ай бұрын

No. Say you have an event, the event happened in the distant past and now can no longer be fully reconstructed with any current knowledge, it's irretrievable, however that event caused a cascade of following events which are significant in the present. If the information were destroyed then the present would not exist. This is causality, one of the most fundamental aspects of physics. For instance the first living organism on earth is impossible to fully describe today, however if its information were destroyed there would be no life on earth today. Information in a physical sense does not mean 'information humans know,' it means the actual physical state of reality, the arrangement and interaction of particles, fields, and energy.

@shyamalganguly3598

3 ай бұрын

It's not physics because you cannot bring back the information retrieved which is destroyed or obliterated for ever but since you know they were once prevalent before such annihilation occurred and you don't have any clue how to have a formulation to capture those once prevalent data! It's not physics that cannot be explained unless at least theoretically proven! But it's not purely psychological because you cannot disprove the data which once were existed! It's rather in the state of notions which are bounded inside a state comprised of somewhat physical and somewhat psychological, but cannot be given a distinctive world of the two said merging worlds! Very interesting isn't it, let's see if future could predict such a formulation for the annihilated data of information!

@xantiom

2 ай бұрын

​@@shyamalganguly3598as soon as your said "it is not physics" it wasn't worth reading anything beyond that. You don't understand basic physics, so any "logical" mulling you might have will be fundamentally wrong. Put the efforts to learn the subject before thinking based on nothing.

@thomasmaughan4798

Ай бұрын

"Isn’t this more philosophy than physics?" Yes, it isn't.

So, what she is saying is like, if a wooden cup that gets burnt, it still exists. It is just in many very small parts.

@Raecast

Жыл бұрын

Basically, yes. And in theory, you would be able to trace the history of that energy back to the wooden cup and reconstruct it, which is true.

@ENDESGA

Жыл бұрын

correct! the atoms/photons/etc have just interacted, and rearranged in a way that's different but still has the same amount of energy. the energy that made the cup not be ash got released and now the air is a bit warmer. this is a fundamental law of nature that has been proven. it's crazy, and beautiful.

@b.b.b.b.b.b.b

Жыл бұрын

"Grandma isn't gone, her entropy just increased😃"

@HarryNicNicholas

10 ай бұрын

yes, but it has to be a fridge not a cup.

@andrewreynolds912

7 ай бұрын

But is that you... are you still... Conscious?

You and Brian Cox are my absolute favorite scientists. Thank you Sabine.

When someone you knew and loved had passed away many years ago and they tell you something very specific is going to happen and it happens that day it sure makes you wonder.

So long as you remember them = they are never really gone.......... The "substance" of what they were however has returned to the Universe. It is how they interacted with that Universe in the form of lives they touched that goes forward as noted via being remembered.

@brothermine2292

Жыл бұрын

Why did you include the word "never?" Do you expect to live forever, in order to be able to remember them forever? Very few deceased people are remembered for longer than a few generations.

@varyolla435

Жыл бұрын

@@brothermine2292 What matter the disposition of individuals unknown to yourself........ Ergo a "loss" only really has relevance to those who knew the individual. Hence as I noted so long as they remember then the individual and all they did to touch others is carried forward - even if they are not physically there. Moral of the story: one does not miss what one never had nor knew.

@brothermine2292

Жыл бұрын

@@varyolla435 : You're neglecting the loss of the opportunity to know people who you didn't meet while they were alive. For example, I never met three of my grandparents. We also lose the opportunity to learn more about deceased people we did know. For example, I sometimes have questions I'd like to be able to ask my deceased parents and eldest brother. Memories of deceased people are a poor substitute for having them alive. And memories fade. By the way, it's been established by neuroscience that the act of remembering permanently alters the memory.

My parents were wonderful people who had their act together at a young age. I'm a pathetic loser, I find it hard to believe they can still be living through me. If they are, they must be very disappointed..Sorry mom and dad, you deserved better!

@washtubdysthe9221

6 ай бұрын

The purpose of living is just to live. you do you

@tondriasanders6306

6 ай бұрын

Whether you or they like it or not, you are their child and made of the same materials, energy and experiences. But you’re still your own person, arranged into a unique existence. Do with that information what you will.

@badhombre4942

6 ай бұрын

I'm sure they are disappointed, in themselves.

@bonitobonita9263

6 ай бұрын

If they raised you to think like that, they were not wonderful people but they are the losers. You are an individual different from your parents, you don’t have to compare, you are you.

@travelfun3812

6 ай бұрын

your parents after they died realised that afterlife is all different and this life was just a dream because it ends so it doesn't matter who you are what you did in a dream here on this planet

Matter cannot be created or destroyed

Just need to get Grandmas ashes back from Jupiter 😂

"You want a Physicist to speak at your funeral."

I think mathematics is flawed. Therefore scientific models are flawed. Consciousness might fall outside what a really really good computer might be able to retrieve!

@W1ngSMC

Ай бұрын

In this case, I think no one believes that there could be a computer that could achieve this. You need to know the position & velocity of all particles in the universe to roll it back. But maths in as good as it gets. So it being flawed is a bad take, or you have to elaborate.

@hansolo631

Ай бұрын

"mathematics is flawed" what does that even mean?

@partisan72

12 күн бұрын

Science doesn't care what you believe or ''think''. By saying ''I think mathematics is flawed. Therefore scientific models are flawed'' you make a meaningless claim based on nothing but your personal opinion.

@hansolo631

11 күн бұрын

@@partisan72 It's worse than a personal opinion, it's just gibberish. Like if I said I think a horse invented halogen light bulbs. It's just drivel, barely words, barely a thought. Why do people feel the need to share their ignorance. Is he a gifted mathematician who has ran into the limits of theory and has some questions noone can currently answer, or is he a random internet denizen trying to portray himself as someone who doesn't need a calculator for 12 x 5

People who have ceased to exist and for who most of their thoughts and actions, for which records were lost or never made to begin with, aren’t practical to retrieve. Her point is moot.

@m.b.62

Жыл бұрын

What does that have to do with the short

@ethaneveraldo

Жыл бұрын

@@m.b.62 Did we not watch the same short?

@m.b.62

Жыл бұрын

@@ethaneveraldo I don’t think you did if you think her point is moot. It doesn’t matter if it is practical or not to retrieve information, the point is that it can be done and as technology advances, we get more accurate at doing so. Almost like how we are able to determine how dinosaurs looked like without ever seeing one. The information was not lost it was just transformed into a different state. There is also the apple in a box theory that touches upon this subject in simpler terms.

@Thomas-gk42

Жыл бұрын

You should read her book 'existential physics', for clear understanding

@ethaneveraldo

Жыл бұрын

If I built a vase, took a photo of it, then put it in an incinerator, it will cease to exist and only the photo will remain. The existence of the photo does not mean the vase still exists. She seems to be confusing existence of something (or someone) with atomic matter, which in the case of the vase existed before I made it and will continue to exist long after it has been destroyed. People (and my vase) aren’t atoms, they’re an arrangement of them. It is this arrangement that defines their existence. Once that arrangement is lost, it ceases to exist, and this process cannot be reversed. Even with the photo (assuming one was taken), only an imitation of the vase could be made. The original will always be lost. Her point is moot. The question was “Are the deceased still with us?” No they are not. I disagree with her argument. Their atoms may continue to exist, but they cannot be brought back, at least not as they were. And again, this is assuming that there are records of their existence.

I have long thought something similar; I believe that, like she says, nothing is ever destroyed, only changed from one state to another so I think that all the knowledge and experience that you are can never really disappear. There is some sort of life after death.

To us yes, they're the same person, but to themselves no, they're a different consciousness.

She didn't go far enough, you could in theory reconstruct the person who died at any point in their life

@edljnehan2811

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for that Dr Frankenstein😅

What about people that have happily deceased?

I was sleeping dozing really and just before my container of acetone made the thump noise it makes when it cools or warms my dream self said “how are you going to clean that? Then the container made that noise. I woke up and thought maybe our minds in that dream state can predict the future.

"We are star stuff." Sagen.

I'm a telecommunications technician specialist in radio transmission living in Brazil and I love listening to Sabine's explanations!

Thank goodness for that last saviour of a sentence. ☺️👌

I like the idea of trees and micro biomes having something to snack on after i kick off.

I have 2 year old paper on this but as always the idea has raised questions

@show_me_your_kitties

5 ай бұрын

You discovered the laws of nature two years ago?

Plus, since time isn't linear (but only perceived as such, by 3rd dimensional beings like us), everyone that you have perceived having passed is simultaneously still alive, as past present and future all exist at once.

@Epoch11

5 ай бұрын

So we're stuck in an Eternal repeating hell from which we can never Escape, that's cool

@raultorresgomez9337

5 ай бұрын

I burst into laughter when I read your comment 🤣

@rcnelson

5 ай бұрын

Did God just leave this post here?

@joeyenniss9099

2 ай бұрын

Time is absolutely linear thats why its called the arrow of time, because its always moving in 1 direction regardless of how fast or slow.

I think what she's saying is thay if you had an incredibly powerful computer that knew every single molecule in the universe, it could calculate all the matter on earth and create a time-map back in time: this molecule came from that animal, that molecule came from this plant etc And you could determine where every single molecule came from and at what time and therefore create a perfect vision of history of everything based on how those molecules moved around

Take my word for it, THEY DO STILL EXIST.

@This_tub

Ай бұрын

No they don't

Yes they're still with us, our American President proves this.

@Los150

Жыл бұрын

The one who looks dead or the one who cakes on gallon drums of makeup to appear not dead but always looks on the cusp?

@Thomas-gk42

Жыл бұрын

For new electors?

@djgroopz4952

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@kirbyhans5261

5 ай бұрын

Anyone but trump or biden 2024.

Something that was something can never become nothing. 💙

@brendandaly5397

6 ай бұрын

❤ it , happy new year

@ShopStylebyme

6 ай бұрын

@@brendandaly5397 Happy New Year . I wish you and your family great health and happiness.

@edljnehan2811

5 ай бұрын

I'm sorry but that's not very reassuring unless you know what It ultimately becomes. I mean I don't want to come back a freaking fly all due respect😅

@ShopStylebyme

5 ай бұрын

@@edljnehan2811 😂 I don’t blame you. I don’t to end up in North Korea but I heard this from a Buddhist Monk. He explained This statement reflects the philosophical idea that existence cannot transform into non-existence. It suggests a permanence or continuity in the nature of being.💙

@edljnehan2811

5 ай бұрын

@@ShopStylebyme I've heard this from them before too but unfortunately I tend to take all of that philosophy crapola with a grain of salt how much they died and were reincarnated I don't listen to them or anyone else. One thing you said I can relate to I would rather come back a fly then come back reborn in North Korea LOL

I found your channel yesterday, really enjoying all your content and it’s very easily digestible for the layman, great stuff! Thank you

In Principle, you can empty the Atlantic Ocean with a teaspoon. In Principle.

Their consciousness & energy still exists just not interfacing with the third dimension in physicality

@50-50_Grind

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the laugh!

@TheShadowMan.

Жыл бұрын

@@50-50_Grind glitch in your matrix?

@ffqas5714

Жыл бұрын

Take your meds

@risefromtheashes6623

Жыл бұрын

​@@ffqas5714 Nope, Near-Death Experiences are strikingly similar cross culturally. Something comes after.

@ffqas5714

Жыл бұрын

@@risefromtheashes6623 no is doesn't There is no evidence of god or afterlife

I honestly "hear" my mom sometimes and it is NOT my own mind. I was getting dressed for a job interview and was wearing open toed shoes and as clear as day in my mind but my mom's voice I HEARD "you can not wear open toed shoes to a job interview." That is not a thought I wouldve had on my own in a million years. My mom absolutely somehow spoke in that moment. I know people think that's a goofy story but my mom believes/d etiquette is incredibly important. I changed my shoes and I did get the job. It wasn't as unimportant as it sounds to some people when I speak of it.

This is a singularly insightful expression of what religions teach expressed in scientific terms.

As long as I remember them, they remain. Just not as immediate and interactive as they were. When the memory of them is gone from the world then it’s like they never existed, as the world knows nothing about them. I think we know this, and that’s why we make them headstones and memorials from materials that will last.

Sabine is wrong when she claims a powerful computer could calculate the past arrangements of matter & energy. The computer would lack sufficient info about the present state of matter & energy to serve as the basis for the calculation. Also, recalling how the deceased used to be isn't the same as having them around now to share our chores, baby-sit our children while we work, and irritate our spouses.

@brothermine2292

Жыл бұрын

@Paul Ridgeway : Without complete information about the present state of the universe, or at least our corner of the universe, even an infinitely fast computer wouldn't be able to deduce the past. And by the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, it's impossible to determinate the state of any little corner of the universe.

@brothermine2292

Жыл бұрын

@Paul Ridgeway : Explain how a computer could deduce the past without complete info about the present.

@brothermine2292

Жыл бұрын

@Paul Ridgeway : A quantum computer couldn't do it either. There's an old saying in the computer industry: "Garbage in, garbage out." It doesn't matter how powerful a computer is, nor that its software is bug-free, if the input data is insufficient.

@brothermine2292

Жыл бұрын

@Paul Ridgeway : Even if space were small, the uncertainty principle prevents adequately knowing the state of a small portion of it.

@brothermine2292

Жыл бұрын

@Paul Ridgeway : Each time you said you'd been joking, you also added something false.

We always seem to be trying make up any theory or excuse to keep our loved ones alive, when in fact we need to let go.

@mikebe41

7 ай бұрын

As much as people want to hope and dream once you're dead you're completely gone

@robertallan6373

7 ай бұрын

@@mikebe41 Yes, and that is what heaven means to me, completely gone.

The first law of thermodynamics actually has three ways of application: Matter is eternal, beginningless and uncreated Energy is eternal, beginningless and uncreated Mind is eternal, beginningless and uncreated

We start out as stardust. We end up as Hawking radiation. Simple. The particles that are part of my body for a brief while are on a different and much longer journey than me.

Yes I think so, I almost passed away once and I could see them all around me. The metaphysics of structures and objects around me were slightly different. Like it was a different physical plane. And their faces would continually change into someone else. They seemed to be slightly alarmed that I could see them.

If we look at the world in 4 dimensions, we'll see the deceased are still with us - forever baked in the fabric of spacetime, just beyond the horizon of three-dimensional space.

@BeatlesFan1975

5 ай бұрын

I almost reported you for this misinformation you typed. 😮

@ProNice

5 ай бұрын

@@BeatlesFan1975 Since when is a little poetry considered misinformation?

There's also the concept of the boltzmann brain where information can once again come together to create the exact same arrangement over infinite time.

Sort of missing the point there doc, physical explanations are one thing: people don’t really think that the atoms used to create us vanish when our hearts stop beating. What she’s missing here is the spiritual, emotional, and religious implications of the question and I think that in those domains her expertise is inadequate to answer the question

@Thomas-gk42

Жыл бұрын

Disagree I miss nothing, it's ok, if besides calculation there is place for individual interpretation, it's a scope, that nature and physics give us

This is very interesting but whenever the idea of immortality comes up I’m reminded of my favourite line by Emily Dickinson : “That it will never come again Is what makes life so sweet.”

According to religion soul doesn't die Body dies

@Bringadingus

Жыл бұрын

Body exists, soul doesn't

@_ardra

Жыл бұрын

​@@Bringadingus What do you mean?

@FOLLOWER_OF_MUHAMMAD.

Жыл бұрын

@@Bringadingus yep sould does not exist in this world.

@seawhenabsent6229

Жыл бұрын

@@_ardra There is no such thing as a soul.

@Thomas-gk42

Жыл бұрын

Ok, this was NOT about religion, it was about physics

Hardcore will never die, but you will.

Deceased implies that they are no longer living. I disagree. When a persons body dies their soul doesn’t. So death isn’t real.

@partisan72

12 күн бұрын

You disagree because your wishful thinking dictates what you want to believe. If I say ''Rainbow unicorns are real and they fly in the sky every night'' I need to put forward evidence for such a claim. What is your evidence for the existence of ''soul'' and that it survives physical death?

@trenttaylor6382

12 күн бұрын

@@partisan72 I don’t think I have to prove anything to you. You would still say it wasn’t proof. So you can believe whatever you want to. I don’t care if you disagree with me.

Always a great pleasure to listen to Doc Bee. And I recommend her new book again, hopeful and exciting: 'Existential Physics', understandable for everyone. Or "...like Schrödinger's Cat we will all be dead, and still alive..." Cited from her song

@jaycarmona

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been enjoying the read so far.

I hope she can speak with many NDE’ers and see if they agree. Real wisdom is experienced, knowledge is what you can learn.

@songbirdsinging1878

Жыл бұрын

what does NDE stand for?

@LeilaBunny54

Жыл бұрын

​@@songbirdsinging1878near death experiencer

@kraftyDevilX

Жыл бұрын

Cross reference the near death experiences with schizophrenics and it becomes more clear that the brain just does really weird stuff sometimes. Especially when it's not getting oxygen. Also, keep in mind that people have near death experiences relative to their world view. Christians have "come to Jesus" moments. Muslims have "come to Allah" moments, etc. It's just the brain doing it's thing and there's no evidence that it's anything more

I wrote that 2 days ago. The algorithm is really something. And a well known physicist says the same. Information is conserved. How where when and why a person was looking at things is still accessible fully. Therefore having the same powers virtues and vices than the deceised is attainable.

I wonder how the soul can be put back together in this theory. I could imagine putting back together a person as much as possible but not have a “soul-ution” for how to turn on the personal identity of that person.

@miguelatkinson

5 ай бұрын

A abstract concept such as a soul is not needed in this theory what so ever

"people who have *sadly* deceased" Keep in mind that this means people throughout history who have *gladly* deceased (e.g. Hitler) still exist in some way. Edit: It also means that dinosaurs still exist. 🦖

@ericr9772

Жыл бұрын

Hitler's body no longer has the momentum. "His" military acumen or whatever was always probably transcendental.

@Thomas-gk42

Жыл бұрын

The information still exists, that's what she said. If you simulate the past, as she hinting suggests in a high level computer of the future, you're not forced to simulate Hitler. Like looking fotos on your computer screen, you might have saved a lot on the hard disk, but you only look the one's you like. Well, not more than good science fiction, but "in principle" possible.

@travelfun3812

6 ай бұрын

don't think in future trillions and trillions of years dinosaurs would come back even if universe is infinite and eternal

What she said had absolutely no meaning. She used a lot of words but said a whole lot of nothing.

@exfranzskater

Жыл бұрын

I understood. Hate to break it to you but the segment she is on is called “Explain it like I’m smart” 💀

@deadhardy

Жыл бұрын

You aren't too bright. It was very straightforward

@Raecast

Жыл бұрын

Idiot self report - lemme guess, you're a conservative like all the other people who complain on these videos? LMAO

@Thomas-gk42

Жыл бұрын

If you really interested in understanding, I recommend her new book, it's about topics like this, and really twelve year old kid can understand

@Standwithvictimsnotagainst

6 ай бұрын

Definitely a skill issue sorry bruh. Shes basically saying the information that is "you" and your life is always in some way retrievable in theory. If in a thousand years we develop computers so powerful they can simulate your ancestry and everything on earth to recreat every moment until your life and then calculate anything and everything about "you" however she says in a practical sense your present consciousness likely will no longer exist.

Not a problem for a eternal, all-powerful creator.

You cannot destroy information for the simple fact that it is not possible to "destroy" abstract entities.

>>>they don't destroy information, that's literally what entropy does

@lawlerzwtf

Жыл бұрын

No, that is absolutely not what entropy does lol. Entropy is just a property or natural tendency of matter or information to become disorganized, but that doesn’t mean information is destroyed. If you’ve seen those videos of colors suspended in thick fluid which are then mixed one way then reversed back to its approximate initial positions, then you get a demonstration of entropy being somewhat reversed. In a perfect simulation where all data points can be tracked or accounted for, it is possible to reverse entropy and retrieve past information. That’s only in theory however, as in real life it is (as the host said in this video), “for practical purposes, impossible to retrieve.”

@Altair_15

Жыл бұрын

Entropy doesn't destroy information.

@deadhardy

Жыл бұрын

Incorrect

@m.b.62

Жыл бұрын

You obviously never understood what entropy means

@bubblegumgun3292

Жыл бұрын

​@lawlerzwtf ""disorganized"" that's destroying it genius , that's like saying my car after the car crash wasn't destroyed it was just "disorganized" In a simulation, first off you're trying to appeal to a different reality, but even that blatantly ignores that computer running that simulation is still subject to entropy, that argument is so short sighted

What exactly did she say??? I’m sorry but pay attention the way she started and ended; it’s just a bunch of words… nonsense

@Raecast

Жыл бұрын

The point is this: If you store data on a computer, then destroy the hard drive, the hard drive still exists. You could grind it, melt it, recast it, transform it chemically, but the energy which made that thing still exists in our world, which is one step devoid of the original information we stored on it. The same happens with humans; they rot, decompose, burn, whatever - but their energy still exists, it's transformed into another state, and the past is all around us and in us, and we will become one with the future in that same way too.

@Los150

Жыл бұрын

@@RaecastI’m afraid you confused him more, my friend lol

@Thomas-gk42

Жыл бұрын

If you are not just chattering but interested in the topic, I recommend you to read her new book 'Existential Physics'. It's quite well to understand and an existing lecture.

There's a really good miniseries called Devs that revolves around a quantum computer than can do this. It used all available info in the universe and can simulate with 100% precision what will happen and what is happened and show it to you. They watched early humans around a campfire, historical events plays out, and the main plot of the show is trying to stop a future they don't want.

When I told my dad, that we our energy will exist after we die He said "Yeah as dust. Who wants to be dust." ❤😂

Said a whole lotta nothing

@m.b.62

Жыл бұрын

You must be slow

@Thomas-gk42

Жыл бұрын

No, I'm afraid, you hust HEARD a lot of nothing

But, what about actual consciousness

Being stuck in a human body is so limiting. Thankfully I’ve come to know that I am not this body, I’m just in it. And like the shell that it is, one day I’ll get to leave. I can’t die. Took me 59 years to come to this understanding.

Isn't causation absolute in mathematical theory. I have heard that at the quantum level that cause and effect is only probabilistic, and not absolutely predictable.

It is only Allah that is capable of bringing the Deceased back on the day of judgement... Islam is beautiful.

This is the equivalent of saying "If the government takes your money, you still have that money, it's just located and scattered differently 😊💰". That's what a conman would say, not a honest person. May as well have answered the question with a "No, lol." than drope the 🎤

The dead know nothing,, as simple as that

@UN1VERS3S

9 ай бұрын

Actually it's the living who are mostly ignorant. At least the dead knows what life and what death actually is.

@travelfun3812

6 ай бұрын

atoms and DNA of the dead person knows nothing

Happy to advocate reality is negating this whole monologue.

They are still with us just in another suite.

It's akin to the famous weird calculation, which shows that in every breath you take, there are some molecules which were in Julius Caesar's lungs when he said "Et tu, Brutus?"

I love this perspective. And I love the many kinks in it described in the comments.

If we're scattered into bits and pieces, then we're truly gone.

@subzero3056

Ай бұрын

Nothing will go into waste in this universe. Wait on judgement day

Very thought provoking

A bit lenghty. Here the shorter version: No.

A so-so scientist believes in Science, a true scientist believes in the Divine -- Louis Pasteur

Talking to myself..."Don't be a groupie don't be a groupie, don't be...

There is science, and there is conscience.

you'd also need quite an impressive sensor array.

if their personalities survive the transition from what they were. Then they must sustain that form.

So we don't die, we just become impossible to retrieve for practical purposes.

There is a distance from us at which our dead are still alive

For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Ecc 9:5

@thomasmaughan4798

Ай бұрын

"but the dead know not any thing" How exactly was this determined?

My dead family is very much still real! They are just no longer conscious and are rapidly decomposing inside of a small wooden box under the surface of the Earth. Very comforting indeed 💀 🙄

If a person is dead or alive. They still have the same number of atoms.

🤔 The best explanation and living proof of thus is Dolores Cannon's work on past life regressions. Ü 👍🤗😇❤️

Why are we asking this question to physicists?

@thomasmaughan4798

Ай бұрын

"Why are we asking this question to physicists?" WE? I didn't ask. Did you? But why not; it helps establish the boundaries of magisteria.

i agree ... technically.. but thats usually not really what people mean when they refer to dead people still "being among us"

It will rearrange itself back together and we'll all collectively go "oh yeah" and off it goes again

But until you try to undo the jumps in the wave function, so you cannot retrieve that information due to the very nature of randomness in the quantum mechanics

Danke!

Those who have passed do still exist, they exist in the form of DNA in their blood relatives, in culture, in memories, in the legacy they leave behind

We existed eons before we were ever conceived.