They need to prioritize Joshua, Lindholm, Zadorov, and yes, even Myers.

@Themapleleaforever

Ай бұрын

Chaos giraffe 🦒

@frankmarshal7767

Ай бұрын

Myers has improved a lot since his days with the Jets

@ChangLRC

Ай бұрын

Its wild how much zedorav feels like hes 5 inches taller than Tylrr even tho hes 1 inch taller. Tyler plays hunched over, and Zedorav plays with his back straight and his head up. Hope Tyler can start playing a little taller when he has the puck!

@donmackie6086

Ай бұрын

​@@Themapleleaforeverless chaosy now, more Effective Giraffe.

@donmackie6086

Ай бұрын

​@ChangLRC Big Z is more proportionate and as a result, more imposing to smaller opponents. Myers is more gangly, being probably 20-25 lbs too light and someone easier to dislodge off his center of gravity. I'm 6'6" and 250 lbs. I remember when I was younger and hitting bars and clubs on the weekends, I would almost always get into fights with smaller guys looking to prove themselves. As I grew older and eclipsed 240, I noticed 240 was the necessary BMI needed to bump into people in tightly packed rooms and not get challenged to a fight. Tall and skinny is no advantage to avoiding fights with angry drunks. Tall and heavier definitely is. Better late than never I guess. Lol

Id pay more for Zad than Hronek

@CanuckTony

Ай бұрын

Me too

@leosteel9890

Ай бұрын

Good thing you’re not Gm

@baiqi44

Ай бұрын

Regular season, Hronek was much better than Zadorov, but playoffs, it was the complete opposite. Problem is, teams don't make the playoffs if players don't do well in the regular season. Having said that, I'd trade Hronek as he wants too much and hope for a guy like Williander to step up. Having said that, I also wouldn't give Zadorov too big of a raise as that'll create problems too.

@Canucksnate

Ай бұрын

Agreed

@donmackie6086

Ай бұрын

Yup. Big defensemen age much better than smaller guys. If we can get him at a reasonable rate, 6 years is not an issue re performance decline metrics. Doesn't hurt also that he's a popular guy amongst his teammates.

The million-dollar question a journalist should ask Hronek: Are you willing to work within the team's salary cap issues to keep the core together and remain in Vancouver?

@rickbold9337

Ай бұрын

Seems like he turned down a contract earlier in the year when he was playing well. I’d say let him walk and go after Zadorov

@G_Ellis606

Ай бұрын

Hronek would stare back like a freak and say, "What do you want me to say?>??? Yes??"

@allancrow134

Ай бұрын

@@G_Ellis606 Without Hughes his points stats would be far less impressive.

@donmackie6086

Ай бұрын

$20 says he replies 'no'.

@Dylligraphy

Ай бұрын

Ok but no one did as well with Hughes as Hronek did, sorta like the Hyman with McDavid angle

I'd sign Z before Hronek. Can't find size, aggressiveness and playoff performance very often. But I wouldn't give him the keys to the city either. Personally I'm tired of seeing the Canucks overpay for everyone. Including Petey. Miller and Hughes are good signings.

Hronek is a good solid defenseman, but not that good. Not NHL elite good. Trade his ass and sign a solid 4 million $ D man.

@TheLivewire18

Ай бұрын

What Dman? Have you looked at the free agents list this year?? It’s slim pickings. No guarantee you’re getting any of them, and all of them are going to be mad overpriced.

@steve8803

Ай бұрын

@westcoastdean if Hronek is not that good, then why would there be any takers to "trade his ass" to? Those potential takers would just sign their own solid $4M dman....

@westcoastdean

Ай бұрын

@@steve8803 No, since some NHL GM’s are not very smart. But yeah, you’re right. The Canucks should sign him for 5 years at 8 million a year, like he wants. That’s the smart move. 🤓

@steve8803

Ай бұрын

@@westcoastdean nobody knows what he wants. It's just speculative. But if you think you are so much smarter than some GMs, and they are so easy to dupe in a trade, great. Do that.

@westcoastdean

Ай бұрын

@@steve8803 lol Trade his overrated, cancer in the locker room, unprofessional to the media, ass!

These are millionaires and talking to the media is part of their job. If you show disrespect at work, chances are, you don’t have a job for very long. But fans always blame the media for asking hard questions. Do the media always ask great questions? No. But if a player isn’t performing and reportedly wants a big contract, it’s the job of a journalist to ask hard questions. Average people shell out big money to watch these rich people play a kid’s game, so I applaud any journalist who asks a hard question- even one with an obvious answer. Their job isn’t to make the players feel comfortable. They can go back to their mansions and penthouses and do that. For years, the Canucks were terrible and everyone blamed the media for asking questions. Now, they’re good and the media continues to ask questions. Maybe they should hold these in a pub and the media buy these players a round of beers. Would that make everyone happy? Maybe Hronek can sit in Jeff Patterson’s lap and he can read him a bedtime story.

@remimk

Ай бұрын

this is journalists ENTIRE job. This is not the first time these players have been upset at the Journalistic questioning. These journalist have no tact in todays market. they're dinosaurs and should be relegated to the back office where they can write their stories. But question period should be given to the younger generation. or at least women who ask their questions with more grace than the demolition crew that's on display these days

@robertlavigne9828

Ай бұрын

@@remimk Coddle much?

@akira_kei_

Ай бұрын

@@remimk The question was, "Were you playing through an injury?" It's a simple and direct question and there's nothing wrong with it. It's understandable to ask that after the playoffs. It's not even a hard question. Hronek reacted in a weirdly defensive way.

@whatsup3280

Ай бұрын

Exactly

@TruongTee

Ай бұрын

Absolutely. It comes with the territory . Can’t handle the heat than don’t take the big paycheck🚐

RHD are in shortest supply = highest demand. You pay 10-20% more for the good ones. All the other options are older than him so he could get his ask somewhere, even if its 8.

@jeffsully4569

Ай бұрын

👍Why are fans forgetting this? I remember how excited everyone was when the team finally got a talented RHD. In the coming years his 8 mill will look normal and very tradeable if Willander develops

@bzhouka9679

Ай бұрын

@@jeffsully4569there may be a shortage of rhd but with players like pesce and tanev available hronek isn’t a priority

@MrPointmidget

Ай бұрын

@@bzhouka9679 Tanev wants to come back, and would sign for much less than Hronek. I'd argue he's got better chemistry with Huggy, and much better defensively.

@chrisnelson2770

Ай бұрын

The issue is Hronek isn't that good and Hughes is carrying that line. We'll have Willander in a couple years too

If I was Vancouver I would trade his rights before July 1st. He made almost as many mistakes as Cole did in the playoffs

Definitely agree. Also doesn’t seem to have the same energy as the rest of the team. His presser seems like a bit of an outlier compared to the others gushing about playing in Vancouver. Plus $8M/year is starting to smell like Nurse if it goes south. Lindholm and zadorov seem like natural fits.

Mattias Ekholm of the Oilers is making 6.5M per year, Filip Hronek asking 8M is no where near as skilled. So in my opinion Hronek should be traded to make Cap space to sign other UFA's & RFA's.

Lindholm is great but i get the sense he doesn't want to be in Van that bad

@G_Ellis606

Ай бұрын

He wants to cash in

@Themapleleaforever

Ай бұрын

Probably depends on how the season will go

@randdomize858

Ай бұрын

It's just my theory but I believe he's had his eye in Florida all season. Tkachuk loved playing with him and has probably been recruiting him all year.

@Themapleleaforever

Ай бұрын

@@randdomize858 hopefully Tkatchuk isn’t convincing

He’s a poor professional. At least be somewhat transparent. He’s always been a grumpy ass and barely speaks to the media. He likely was injured. All the pundits said that he was taped up for most of the second half of the year.

Give me about 6 million or about 6.2 million max and if he doesn’t take that put them on the free age in market

@MrPointmidget

Ай бұрын

They already offered him 6.5 and he turned it down... Trade Hronek to Carolina for Necas, let Lindholm walk and sign Guentzel, Tanev and Toffoli, resign everyone else, and laugh all the way to the cup next season.

@jacksonjacob7791

Ай бұрын

Around 6.5 would be a good contract for Hronek.

@sucraf1

Ай бұрын

@@MrPointmidget Trade him. He is not worth 8 mil for 48 points. And no way he should get paid more than Hughes.

@G_Ellis606

Ай бұрын

Nucks already offered Hronek 6.5 a few months ago and he said no

@jacksonjacob7791

Ай бұрын

@@G_Ellis606 his play in the 2nd half and playoffs probably costed him money. He's not getting $8 million that's for sure.

Few points here: 1.) No one reported asking price is $8m, made up number from twitter 2.) He got totally burned by ice time in the first half of the season 3.) This was his first play off, he'll be a monster next season 4.) Nucks need solid RH dman, Hughes prefer to play with him 5.) 6 years ago he didn't speak word of english, I would hate any sort of public speaking/media too 6.) He got on par or better with points with half of the Canucks forwards

I know the players for the canucks where taking alot of body checks on them & the check on them too. But the Canucks should keep them all they will bring us to playoffs next year. I had to think about players of the Canucks they did good for us in the playoffs they were talking alot body checks. So sorry Canucks for be mad when you guys lost . You guys did really good in the playoffs. I hope you all stay with us the Canucks.

Did you talk about Philip’s injury in this video?

Keep Zadorov lindholm Joshua and Myers. If hronek asks for too much then trade him and bring tanev back

so wrong. Right handed d men who have a bomb of a shot and can move the puck just dont grow on trees. replacing him isnt easy, not saying we should pay 8 mil hes not worth that, but yeah not gonna be easy to replace a right hand dman.

They should of signed him for term once acquired, dont play him with hughes all season and try to sign him after.

I hated Zadorov in the EDM - VAN series. So, ya, he's definitely a guy Vancouver should be aiming to keep. You are correct. He had an impact, without a doubt.

I would recommend everyone watch the FULL CLIP to get context

If the Canucks want to win, some player need to buy in. Sadly it’s the players without a contract. If they don’t want to take a discount to win a cup, they aren’t worth it.

Tanev is old but I’d rather him

@Dylligraphy

Ай бұрын

He plays half a season every year

I’m fine if we trade Cole and Hronek, keep Big Z and Lindy, and find some better d men. D Petey might have his time to shine when he’s ready

Like the question or not, don’t make rude facial expressions in front of cameras…just a thought. Not a good look. You weren’t talking to your mom.

@markh4545454

Ай бұрын

What a shit take. These reporters ask the same stupid questions every day. Most of them are bad at their jobs and deserve to be fired but for some reason media just gets to be shit at their job and get away with it for years

@quixMPG

Ай бұрын

@@markh4545454a kids game.. nah

@Kiranzya

Ай бұрын

@@markh4545454 I mean, if he's earning millions its kinda part of the job

@jeffsully4569

Ай бұрын

Just needs some media training

@kenzandana4791

Ай бұрын

​@@markh4545454Just like nhl refs huh?

I really like him, but his pricetag is to much. It would be nice if we could make a deal. Joshua could be gone and his contribution has been huge. I would go as far as 6.8. He has only played two good years. And Joshua has really only blossomed this year.Joshua and Soucy being gone for part of the season did not help.

Steve y Saw this coming he was a defensive liability the whole time on the wings

No such thing as a himeriwn discount. Those days are over.

Yes even my 90 yr old Grandpa would have had 50 pts beside Huges

According to Elliot Freidman, Hronek's minimum arbitration is $7.5 million per season.

8 mill is deff too much, but finding the right d partner for hughes and rh dmen are hard to come by. you can deff sign another dman for cheaper but they may not have chemistry. if canucks dont handle this offseason well the team could take a step back next season

100% with those boys, if we can afford Lindholm. 3rd line centre though? he's better than that.

Still loved Hronek’s chirp to the Flames😁Have fun while we go to the playoffs 👌

Apparently he pulled the same pattern in Detroit. He's just riding on the fact that RHD are rare so he's using that as a bargaining chip

@hibby21

Ай бұрын

arnt you supposed to use your leverage in negotiating? lol

If it's not an injury, then it was poor reads and he doesn't have a big shot. Then why would the Canucks pay for what's he's asking? If he's like that with his team mates, get him out of the locker room.

Hi im an Oilers fan but GM sounded like he wanted to change things up abit, which is needed to be a serious cup contender, as much as I don't like him, Zadorov, Joshua and Myers and probably Silovs would be the top resigns, Lindholm maybe, but depends what the GM wants to switch up, too many euros on the team.

@Dylligraphy

Ай бұрын

If we had “too many Europeans” then why did the Oilers need injuries to Boeser, Pettersson and Demko to barely scrape by the Canucks by 1 goal in game 7? What an asinine and racist take.

@smk3390

29 күн бұрын

Youre assuming the oilers needed those to win and europe is a continent moron and pettersson for instance is crying about his knee. There are many players who have injiries to knees shoulders ribs and still perform better. Btw the oilers have the top 4 point earners in the playoffs. What did vancouver have? Enjoy the off season loser.​@Dylligraphy

I'm all for letting him go. Salary demands will start out at a certain level and go up or down. There's no way I'm paying him more than 6.5 at the most. I AM however, paying Zadorov a cool 5.7 per year. I AM paying Joshua 3.6 per year, I am paying Myers 3 per year. I am trading Mickheyev with a sweetener to dump his salary.

@Dylligraphy

Ай бұрын

Good luck I don’t see how Zadorov gets under 7, if not here than elsewhere

I'd give a team Hronek for free, if someone also takes Mikhaev(I still don't know how to spell his name, and I'm not going to bother learning, till I see him even trying on the ice). Obviously that would involve getting him to waive his NMC. The Canucks are really out of their minds sometimes, how the F do they have 3 NTC or NMC. When the three players are michwhatever, Miller, and Soucy. What have the two guys other than Miller done to ever earn that.

What if a certain Winger from Toronto made his way over in a trade for Hronek

All the big names want more than the Canucks can afford to pay. Say goodbye to Hronek, Big Z, Lindy and probably Joshua as some other team is going to pay him more than the Canucks can pay him. The OEL buyout is going to get worse the next few years and will cost the Canucks some good players. The management has some really big challenges this offseason. Should be interesting to see what they can come up with.

@3:18 😅

Yzerman is Wise...

Let him go. Let’s see how well he does without a potential Norris winner beside him.

They should trade up Cole, dude was defending whenever the Canucks got scored and did a terrible job helping silovs during the playoffs

Send him to the Leafs for Marner

Keep big z trade horanik see what you can get he's decent but not on the same level as Hughes we need size and someone that will stand up for his teammates

Too many Swedes we could use a few more Canadians imo

Canucks are not going to get too much for Hronek. Maybe a pick and/or player for his RFA signing rights. Canucks won’t match whatever offer he’s going to get and teams won’t sign him unless they get his RFA rights first.

I’d trade him for a top 6 winger Focus on Big Z and lindholm

How much would Brett pesce get?

Taney is 5M on a home town discount despite Toronto being his home.

@evolgrim4139

Ай бұрын

Oh no we claim Tanev as our own now 😂

@Dylligraphy

Ай бұрын

LOL Tanev was asked to do a team-friendly deal before and went straight to Calgary Vancouver might claim him but the feeling is not mutual and frankly I wouldn’t want a guy who plays half a season every year

@TheRealAT

Ай бұрын

@@Dylligraphy Tanev wanted to sign a team friendly deal and Benning didn’t offer him a contract at all according to Dhaliwal. You’re making that up.

frankly i thought that his answer was funny. a little disrespectful, yeah, but so was the question. “why are you being so pissy?” come on man

Zaddy>hronek

He got 48 points for a supposedly offensive dman. That is not a good number. Average at best. And he mostly played on the top pairing with Hughes. No way Canucks should pay this guy more than their captain who is a way better offensive dman. 5-6 mil at the most and that's pushing it. Hughes doesn't need him. Hughes can play with anyone and still get his points.

@Dylligraphy

Ай бұрын

Can he? He’s never gotten more with anyone else. He’s not Makar.

I say , Trade him and , concentrate on the big Z .. You can not pay him more than QH . Lindholm is too expensive as well ,,

Hronek and his agent are searching for his big day, Vancouver should not give him that pay day. Trade his rights and load up for the draft

Zadorov, Lindholm, Joshua, .. Top 3 in order of priority in my view. Hronek too expensive and is not worth sacrificing the above mentioned top 3.

I think the canucks should true to get werenski for hronek

Got some attitude problems 😂 LoL Who Cares They Get To Go Golfing Now Duh:

Tanev is not the answer. He’s old, he’s got lots of defensive liability (Stars games show him being lame in his own end), he’s the best at screening his own goalie, etc

@chefwoo

Ай бұрын

and spends most of his time on IR. Why are we even talking about brining him back? Ughghhhh can we move on and scout for new guys?

Hronek is a pylon defending, honestly Hughes isn’t that great either, they both puck watch like crazy are rarely take the man. But Hughes play driving is elite, whereas Hronek not even close. I can’t justify keeping both, and so the choice is obvious haha

@Themapleleaforever

Ай бұрын

What we saw last time is you give Hughes a better partner he does better. So I think just try that again

✌️ FH

Trade Hronek...it's obvious. Sign Big Z, Joshua, Blueger, Silovs

trade him and sign brandon dillon

Fuck yes Tanev!

@Dylligraphy

Ай бұрын

Fuck no He wasn’t trying to stay in Vancouver before, went straight to Calgary after we let him go and we should not be so desperate to go after a guy who doesn’t want to play here and plays half a season every year

trade him

Trade HIM!

First 🫡

Canucks lose either way Lose a rhd or overpay for one

Dump Hronkek, get Tanev back.

@Dylligraphy

Ай бұрын

We let him go and he went to Calgary I don’t think he wants to come back and if he did he’d play half a season like he always does

First

JP your not being sneaky, your being annoying and insulting his intelligence

We got some attitude problems on this team, Hronek, Petey, Demko all awful with the media, it's a shame, cause this is the entertainment business, on and off the ice , these guys get paid millions to play a kids game, why do they have to be such prickly assholes

@thedingbatdingers4326

Ай бұрын

Why is it so important that hockey players hit the press? let them play the fucking game. I think they would all play better without these unintelligent sports reporters blabbering about the next trade bait.

@thisrandomvoice3214

Ай бұрын

@@thedingbatdingers4326 of course the reporters suck, most of them are idiots, but that doesn't change the fact these are pampered millionaires not able to answer a few questions, ones they should be expecting, the fans want to see these guys talk and interact with the media, how hard is to smile and answer a few fucking questions at the end of the year

@nicholaslouie7590

Ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@thedingbatdingers4326 100% players shouldn’t be answering thoughtless questions. I actually praise Hronek for that response, that reporter just wanted his minute of fame.

I would recommend everyone watch the FULL CLIP to get context