So it’s only bad in excess. But it’s in every fucking food. So it will be consumed in excess lol

@spyroninja

21 күн бұрын

And super cheap

@spaceghosttoast

21 күн бұрын

Even when you use it everywhere it's rarely excess, so long as you count your calories it's incredibly unlikely you'll over consume seed oils unless you're damn near drinking the damn things

@rumchata6569

21 күн бұрын

@@spaceghosttoast how much Walmart food would one have to consume to get to an excess amount?

@dmacrolens

19 күн бұрын

Do you not know the difference between whole and processed foods?

@caleb3909

19 күн бұрын

What do you mean "in every food"? It's almost all junk food

I've been drinking 1L of vegetable oil every day for years.

@pricklycats

23 күн бұрын

Carnivore and keto mfs will be like “at least it’s not carbs” after consuming 3000 calories from fat

@entername4166

23 күн бұрын

No keto dosnt promote seed oils ​@pricklycats

@BTTREdits

23 күн бұрын

​@@pricklycatsThats wrong, we would never eat toxic seed oilds.

@Peatore

23 күн бұрын

@@entername4166 It absolutely does. I've been drinking 2L of concentrated seed oils a day. Pure Keto, baby.

@entername4166

23 күн бұрын

@@Peatore I like a gallon a day

It's hard to trust any research done in a country where it's legal for corporations to bribe scientists. Personally, I just go for the Twoface diet where I flip a coin for every controversial food and hope it works out.

@harleyzeth

23 күн бұрын

That's every country

@rikvillarreal7455

23 күн бұрын

"legal"???

@ginoyesano5649

23 күн бұрын

That's not legal, that's considered fraud

@margodphd

23 күн бұрын

Huh? It seems my facility's bribes are being stolen because I haven't seen a dime in decades 😂

@harleyzeth

23 күн бұрын

@@margodphd Nobody who hopped on the anti-seed oil bandwagon has ever been in a lab or seen a paper in their life. These are the same people who think soy raises estrogen, yet will drink milk and beer

Sup Derek it’s Guys from More Dates More Plates

@stronk9760

23 күн бұрын

Dilderek

@LuisPedro9

22 күн бұрын

Sup Plates, Derek from More Dates More Guys

@ooooa9046

22 күн бұрын

@@LuisPedro9lmfaooo even better

STAN LEFT UNLFUSHED DUCK EGG DIARRHEA IN THE GYM BATHROOM

@VegardLaur

23 күн бұрын

lmao

@Mr.Wollas

23 күн бұрын

Wtf

@breathinglead871

22 күн бұрын

Call that Monster Mash

@johndoeyedoe

22 күн бұрын

Nice!!!

- sweat dripping of face - head so fkn red idk wtf going on - veins popin of his face - absolutly juiced the fuck up yeah you look healty bro

@Shoegaze-

6 күн бұрын

*goes to McDonald’s

@Leongmw

4 күн бұрын

bro he doesn't even eat seed oils

@sam-wm2dd

2 күн бұрын

Yeah why is a steroid user preaching about health

The only seed I'm eating is my own 😋

@unclechaw1894

23 күн бұрын

Cursed

@nomad583

23 күн бұрын

HUH

@shottakush8404

23 күн бұрын

@@nomad583 no seriously. I try my best to do semen retention, but I always relapse when I say I’m just going to edge while looking at some type of videos. Tbh it feels like I still keep the effects when I consume my ejaculate. I eat very healthy so I figure it has to be good for me in someway

@CambuiFelix

23 күн бұрын

Bro pls

@unitgamex2972

23 күн бұрын

😮

It’s hard for me to pinpoint how or why but I got nothing from listening to this guy speak. It was almost as if he was about to finish saying something multiple times, but never did.

@leeaxon01

23 күн бұрын

You never will. He just chats about 'studies' and 'research' and that's it lol. Every video.

@ocoro174

23 күн бұрын

classic marker of a shill

@HotShotLion

23 күн бұрын

I think that was just you

@CanariasCanariass

23 күн бұрын

Maybe you should listen more carefully

@TheKruxed

23 күн бұрын

Its because hes a bro scientist

Everyone seems to think the government should determine whether beef lard or vegetable oil is best to fry foods in, why would the government have a purpose in this discussion?

@maxmusterman-yr5mq

11 күн бұрын

because the government is responsible for caring for it's population? or do you have a government that just exists?

@lohengrin4009

11 күн бұрын

@@maxmusterman-yr5mqyou can wait around for a bureaucrat to care for you if you want, I prefer self determination and my own research on the subject. Obviously, the food pyramid the government pushed for years is factually incorrect. The government actually claimed butter and eggs were bad for you. Now scientists are saying margarine is far worse than butter used in moderation. The cholesterol in an egg isn’t bad for you either, in fact, an egg is almost a perfect food. You seem to be rather confused about what has taken place in the national diet.

@toddknode752

5 күн бұрын

@@maxmusterman-yr5mq that is not the purpose of government. So you want elected policians in charge of "caring for you"? Really???

@maxmusterman-yr5mq

5 күн бұрын

​@@toddknode752 i understand you have an opinion and you're free to express it but if it's stupid just move on. the main purpose of the government is to protect its citizens, people vote in the most bs spewing politician that promises them a better living.

It’s simple, seed oils in isolation aren’t bad. But when you start messing with your omega 3 to 6 ratio, that’s what’s bad. And seed oils have a ton of omega 6. Clear research on omega 6 excess being toxic for the body

@AdamParkhurst

22 күн бұрын

Dumb take

@HarryLlewellyn27

22 күн бұрын

@@AdamParkhurst enlighten me boy

How is it only "ultra-processed foods" are dangerous but not the seed oils? We've seen those videos of them extracting the oils, what the hell is more "processed" than that?

@varund7

11 күн бұрын

4:00 onwards is where he actually admits he was wrong to demonise seed oils given the balance of evidence.

The thumbnail looks like he's sobbing. 🤣🤣

@Ben_sul

23 күн бұрын

Lmao

@oscarriley9265

15 күн бұрын

Very emotional subject

Post the whole video! Love this content

@LowkeyLukeDnB

22 күн бұрын

The whole podcast was uploaded a while ago

Can you make a video on the Tren Twins new pre workout, they came out with a whole supplement line

Great video

I primarily cook with Olive oil

@nhartzheim89

23 күн бұрын

I prefer seed oils

@Mudder1310

23 күн бұрын

Consider something like avocado oil instead. Not because olive is unhealthy, but it has a low smoke point and is better as a cold oil for salad dressing or marinades.

@propletrelooxretlitre5705

23 күн бұрын

i cook with water or air

@pricklycats

23 күн бұрын

Most olive oil is like 10-20% olive oil with mostly some other vegetable oil so make sure you’re not buying the cheapest stuff. There’s a reason they make the bottles green tinted instead of clear because they don’t want you to see what it actually looks like before buying it.

@BTTREdits

23 күн бұрын

I only cook with lard, or ghee. Way healthier and more delicious.

aldehydes (4HNE) when heated and contains hexane unheated so yeah they are lol

Nice video! I think it's still a good thing that people are cautious of seed oils as that makes them avoid ultra-processed foods

I love how people give these mechanistic explanations for why seed oils are bad for you. But when we look at the research, they're fine. You can make an argument for anything being bad using mechanisms. For example, exercise causes oxidative stress in multiple parts of the body, massively increases stress hormone levels, carries a large injury risk and can disrupt sleep if done too late in the day. But guess what, it's one of the healthiest things you can do

@charlotte3201

23 күн бұрын

Seed oil haters when I show them research with no conflict of interests and they still have a neutral to positive impact on human health: 😰😰😰

@theMightywooosh

23 күн бұрын

a lot of it comes from the way the fast food industry uses seed oils... Some seed oils are heavily regulated in Europe, but not in the US, so there is evidence to say that they are healthy, but calling them all unhealthy would not be correct either... If everyone did a little research on the particular oil you'll find yourself not using most of them and using some of them sparingly. Or You could just cook at home with avocado oil and not worry about anything.

@rustysausage69

23 күн бұрын

@@charlotte3201 I am clinically diagnosed with autism as a result of replacing butter with seed oil for 7 months (i didn't actually and haven't, but I am self-diagnosed prior to this lie)

@theMightywooosh

23 күн бұрын

*there is evidence to say they are unhealthy, particularly with regular use. Got to look at each oil, and make your own decision. He's also right, a lot of seed oils are used in crap foods like potato chips, McDonald's, etc

@charlotte3201

23 күн бұрын

@@theMightywooosh The U.S began completely phasing out seed oils containing trans fats nearly 4 years ago now, so no, you're fine in both continents. And a lot of recent research shows seed oils have positive impacts on health markers, so not sure what you're talking about really

Dust your shelves after you take the stuff off to put the book on. - Your Mom

What about seed oil in TRT ?

What was the actual answer to this title? This guy rambled so much I couldn't follow

@eetulehtonen69

23 күн бұрын

The answer was no. Seed oils aren't unhealthy.

@phogelbice

23 күн бұрын

answer is yes, they are unhealthy.

@charlotte3201

23 күн бұрын

He says within the first minute of the video we see a decrease in ApoB when replacing saturated fat with mono or poly unsaturated fats, with no increase in inflammation markers

@eetulehtonen69

23 күн бұрын

@@phogelbice did we watch the same video?

@theMightywooosh

23 күн бұрын

Avoid them if possible, but if you cook with once in awhile it's not the end of the world. And they all are not created equal... Too much to go into on that. Biggest problem is fast food restaurants reuse the same oil for days or weeks and the oil gets rancid, plus there's a molecular change from re-heating the same oil over and over again, that makes it even worse for your body.

Has anybody just paid attention to the process used in making seed oils? Go watch a video on that sometime in I can guarantee you won't be eating it after that.

@alexanderleuchte5132

18 күн бұрын

Or the products they make from slaughterhouse waste like sausages or even worse gelatin, watch that and you'll never eat a gummy bear again

Hes back boys!

It’s much easier for people to point to one boogeyman to blame rather than assessing their lifestyle as a whole. It’s all the fault of seed oils or sugar. Nothing to do with the fact that most people eat like pigs and don’t exercise at all.

@Lewis-me7jr

11 күн бұрын

Couldn’t agree more. People are deeply addicted to the dopamine hit they get from gorging themselves on massive quantities of calorie dense foods.

What about refined sunflower oils?

Hey Derek, can we some day get your product in Europe as well?? thank you and keep up with the great content 🙏🏻

I tried black seed oil for about a month idky had headaches and stomach felt off

@connorking984

23 күн бұрын

Then you're probably allergic if it was small amounts, obviously don't chug a liter of oil but if it's hurting you then you have a sensitivity

@johnjrkean7008

23 күн бұрын

@@connorking984 it was the pills gel pills with the liquid inside ...my friend takes them no problem same ones so ur probably right they just didnt sit well for whatever reason .....I took half suggested rate one bottle

My seed

@TheDavveponken

23 күн бұрын

Trans fats

@Fredfansom

23 күн бұрын

No mine🗿

@TheDavveponken

23 күн бұрын

@@willperkins589 lol my comment was removed. The woke police

I refuse to believe that with the newer research out there… and all the other trends from people and many of my friends and myself included .. having removing this from their diet and the effects it’s hand is just exaggerated or coincidence. I refuse. I’m SUBSTANTIALLY better without sugar or seed oils like it’s straight up no contest.

What happened to the sauna?

It's nice seeing these guys come onto derek's podcast and say nice things about each other but why don't they just have a 2-hour discussion with mild preparation on such topics on their own podcasts?

@jettfuelfitness

23 күн бұрын

Many people just find it easier to discuss things as a conversation than as a one person presentation. I think people forget this in an era when you can watch video essays all day. Not that that’s bad, it’s just some people are better at one or the other.

Nice to see people slowly moving towards rationality, nuance and balance... however, it's unfortunate that these type of videos will never go viral because they aren't polarizing, demonizing and outlandish

Calories don’t matter if it’s all processed chemicals that cause your body to freak out. The problem isn’t fructose syrup vs sugar. The problem is that every single product contains one or the other

If linoleic aicd isn't bad for you, then why is high oleic soybean oil healthier than normal soybean oil?

One of the only long term double blind RTC studies ever done that actually compared animal fats vs processed seed oils found that you didn’t start seeing a difference in health outcomes until about 10 years out from the initiation of seed oils to the diet. It apparently takes a LONG time for these changes to take effect which makes sense. My hypothesis is that our cells will incorporate the fatty acid ratios we consume into their cell and organelle walls over time. If you eat mostly saturated fats, you get cell membranes that are robust and resistant to oxidative stress. If you eat mostly seed oils, your cells will have more of their structure composed of material that easily oxidizes and gets destroyed. A difference like this would essentially make you age faster if you eat more seed oils as simply producing and using ATP generates oxidative stress in the cells and your membranes would be less able to handle the “heat stress” of their own engines running.

I have a fucked up sky high metabolism and a manual job so I just eat as much as I can afford to/force down and try not to get headaches or pass out

Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪 Derek. Love this format. Better than the sauna 🧖‍♂️ Then again I’d tune in if you were narrating from a park bench lol😂

The problem is low quality food is in abundance and people overeat low quality food. It just so happens that low quality food is also ultra processed and loaded with seed oils, artificial sweeteners and flavors, and just unnecessary calories. I think if you’re eating high quality, whole foods that are minimally processed, you’re also naturally going to avoid seed oils.

@VernCrisler

23 күн бұрын

Just about all foods are processed, except maybe the fish you catch in the river.

@heyselice

23 күн бұрын

This is really all there is to it. If you wanted to, I have a strong suspicion that you could 1-for-1 replace olive oil in your diet (in salads, recipes, etc) with seed oils and if you were eating well before and continue to eat the same just with that substitution, you would not experience any negative outcomes (unless you are specifically allergic to seed oils). It would taste worse, but you would be fine. They're just in everything because they are inexpensive to procure as opposed to better oils like olive or avocado.

she oil on my seed till im refined

Iiterally switched to fat, frying and cooking food in that made me feel ten times better than using seed oils, that alone is enough proof for me and I have lost more weight in my cut this time around than before, eating bit more.

Derek, do a review of Erriyon Knighton popping for Tren, bro

If Stan believes it's just the calories, he has to acknowledge that seed oils provide no micro-nutrients and minimal satiety, so they inherently increase calorie consumption when consumed in an ad libitum setting. In the end, the outcome is the same, even if the fatty acids themselves are benign; stop eating seed oils.

I don't know the science behind it but when I consume oils such as: vegetable oil, soybean oil, peanut oil, sunflower oil, and especially canola oil my joint swell for days, I'm in terrible pain, my chest hurts and my right hand swells up. Idk what is doing it but ever since I replaced those I no longer have the problem.

@KC-ix9mn

23 күн бұрын

Everyone has a different response to every food, and every chemical. Do what works for you.

@iancanada6875

23 күн бұрын

it makes my asthma and eczema flare up

@connorking984

23 күн бұрын

My guy you are ALLERGIC. it's not some strange phenomenon you have an ALLERGY

@mensb1936

20 күн бұрын

Same i had all kinds of inflammation problems until i cut them out

Man we need debate with Santa Cruz

So now that I take seed oils for my hair loss it becomes bad 😢

@connorking984

23 күн бұрын

Bro did you watch the video he said there's no evidence in any case that they're bad. Erase seed oil from your mind, it's a non issue

So what should I be lightly frying my beef and eggs in??

Simple experiment everyone can do, stop eating vegetable oil and replace with olive oil or animal fat and see how you feel. If you feel better, worse or the same you know whether it’s good, bad or neutral. Studies are great but rely on humans being as intelligent as we think we are - we don’t actually understand the body as much as we think we do but we can all understand how we feel day to day.

Seed oils have comically absurd omega 6 levels. How is anyone trying to say not minimizing its consumption is good?

@infernus6278

23 күн бұрын

Not to mention they are the most processed food that exists. This guy is a random gym bro who succeeded in life and now it's just spitting half truths

@privtprofile24

23 күн бұрын

flaxseed oil has entered the chat....

@handeggchan1057

23 күн бұрын

Ideally you shouldn't be eating a ton, because they only real way to overconsume them is to eat unhealthy, pre-packaged foods. But using canola oil or something to cook with when you need a high smoke point and don't want to use lard or clarified butter is fine. There are people out there that think eating 2 tbsp a week will have serious health effects.

@bdog2200

23 күн бұрын

@handeggchan1057 yeah obviously, I think we're talking people who consume more than 50% of their fat as seed oils

@handeggchan1057

23 күн бұрын

@@bdog2200 yep, and the only way to do that is to eat mainly fast food and such (or to just drink canola oil, yum). But there are plenty of people like Ray Peat fans that legit believe even small amounts are going to harm you. Very silly stuff.

so nobody is going to mention that mr tomato head is about to explode

I think the issue with seed oils is just seeing how they are extracted and its high usage rate in fast food. Watched "Nutrition made simple" talking about whether or not seed oils are bad, the resounding answer is no from the various case studies done on it and the multiple ways we consume it (via the oil being heated, cooked repeated like in fast food places, normal version), the research says even with all the omega 6's non of the inflammatory markers go up, and instead in some studies they go down. In most of these cases the pool of people ate a tablespoon of said oil a day, this is about 100g of seed oils (given the avg density of the seed oil is .9). So if anything really to take away from seed oils, its fine for the average human to consume in a (confirmed) range below 100gs a week. And at the end of the day cook with what you prefer, if you dont like em you can use avacado or coconut or whatever non seed oil you want, just know if you eat that big mac from mcy d's youll be fine and not be taking 5 years off your life. if you didnt like seed oils to start you prob still wont be after seeing people talk about them, very few people really change their mind on these foods when their already biased (against or for), and there's nothing wrong with that since its your opinion and your body. The issue only arrises when youre just out right doing harm (like eating fast food everyday or sugary snacks).

I am on a liquid diet due to having issue with eating and I intake no less than 6ozs of sugar a day the most I consume is 8-10 ounces a day in sugar and I do not have diabetes and I do not have high blood sugar also I stay under 12% bf and I’m a bodybuilder

this a good question

They definitely give me diarrhoea too.

I like grape seed oil with my TRT 😁

seed oil turns you into a rainbow

Correlation doesn't equal causation... But it could

It’s like saying “guys poison is only bad for you in excess!”

@Ritolino1622

22 күн бұрын

I get what you're saying, but one of the basic principles of toxicology is "dosis sola facit venenum" or "The dosage makes the poison." It's held strong for almost 500 years, so yes, poison by definition is only bad for you in excess. Take alcohol, a literal poison as an example.

@AdamParkhurst

21 күн бұрын

You are really desperate to come off as intelligent

@rumchata6569

21 күн бұрын

@@AdamParkhurst I don’t need to be intelligent just articulate and confident 😎

@AdamParkhurst

17 күн бұрын

@@rumchata6569 you're neither lmao

@AdamParkhurst

17 күн бұрын

@@rumchata6569 what you are is a loser who's wrong

You should do a reaction video to this KZreadr named "togi"... He goes over his steroid cycles in a few of his videos... "Podcast with the voices" is one of the videos where he goes over "one of his more recent steroid cycles". I think you might find it amusing.

I like to fry Beignets or green tomatoes in beef Tallow or lard. I believe it comes out as a better product. Not because of health, but because of the texture. That being said... the best oil (whatever that is) when used to fry has lost its title to be called healthy. But my goto oils are avocado, beef tallow, olive oil, lard, and peanut oil if you're frying a turkey for Thanksgiving.

The question of CVD is also very much a question of overnutrition. When I am rocking my 10-12 % bodyfat, eating healthy, getting my micronutrients covered, doing my workouts, it doesn't really matter if I get a bit more saturated fats than I would have otherwise. When the body is at equilibrium, the energy goes to the right place. We are discussing what foods are most unhealthy, when a male is over 15% bodyfat. We should discuss on how to get males below 15%. (I am 55, TRT+, having more or less same all round physical and mental function as when I was 28. I had better VO2 max and Power then, but I am stronger and have better Mobility and Flexibility now. From 60lb overweight, IR, bad cholesterol, to all markers except hemoglobin B being in perfect range).

@AdamParkhurst

22 күн бұрын

Who asked

Where's Stan at on sodium these days?

Im ready to read these crazy seed oil comments 😂

Cardiolipin levels in cells where vegetables oils are present in the diet are so much lower than is required for normal functioning of the mitochondrion, not to mention the polyunsaturated fatty acid, linoleic acid is literally impossible to breakdown, leading to it being stored as adipose tissue, animal fats are what we should be cooking with, if you need a high smoke point oil for cooking and don’t want to do vegetable oils, clarified butter is the best alternative, as it allows for high temp cooking, and contains all the necessary glycerides your body needs to function at its best, but no, we have no imperical data to show any of that.

There's no good reasons to eat seed oils and lots of compelling reasons not too, so why bother?

He's a plant

"the evidence shows..." well show it lol

@connorking984

23 күн бұрын

People like you are why you can't be right on the internet, my guy, pubmed.gov or whatever it is read the papers yourself

It could be some considerable time (or never) before nutritional science and epidemiological studies to become reliable enough to tell me whether a foodstuff is guaranteed safe or not, so I use other ways of making that decision. At the moment I look at whether it is a naturally occurring substance, or whether it is produced via a process of industrial extraction, and I avoid the latter. So for the time being I will not be eating seed oils.

There is a reason seed oils are less expensive than the olive oil

@iancanada6875

23 күн бұрын

because oil seeds are more productive than olive trees are and they're easier to process

@non9886

22 күн бұрын

99% of olive oil you can buy in shops is scam. rape seed oil rules...

I’ve been around this game long enough to see the how the industry flip flops. There’s nothing inherently bad as long as it’s of decent quality and not in excess.

Consuming 300 calories of a seed isn't a lot of seeds. Processing oil from seeds isn't natural.

SNEED oil not SEED oil

Stan's red blood cell cound, doesn't care about seed oils.

The seed oil debate smells just like the egg debate or the suger vs fat debate. It's so easy to avoid them and the alternatives are far superior in every way including cost, so there's no reason to just avoid them until 20-40 years in the future we know exactly what their long term effects are. The pro-seed oil people come off as using the argument as a stand-in for broader politics. They're mad that you aren't arbitrarily agreeing with the mainstream consensus, not that you choose to avoid a specific food type.

@VColossalV

22 күн бұрын

I don't think pro-seed oil is the mainstream consensus. Seems to me a fairly fringe idea at this point.

I had horrific phantom knee and joint pains . Stopped consuming seed oil foods and pain disappeared. Weight or hydration or injury was not a factor . Just my story

@connorking984

23 күн бұрын

Your story sounds allergenic

Probably, but so is everything else.

can you do a natty or not on Maxwell Krause, he claims natty

Seed oils give me the shits.

And Drink wather from a plastic bottle 😂

@VernCrisler

23 күн бұрын

Very safe and healthy -- despite all the hysteria about plastics.

@Mich-jk2ze

23 күн бұрын

@@VernCrislerdepends. Your tap water could have more microplastics than that in the plastic bottle of water. Plastics start to leech at higher temperature or over longer periods of time. As an engineer we’ve learned about the degradation of plastics and they are stable unless they sit for too long or are subjected to uv or heat for long enough.

@VernCrisler

23 күн бұрын

@@Mich-jk2ze Tap water is the cleanest water in existence -- subject to government regulation. If you think drinking tap water, or eating and drinking from plastic containers, is toxic, where are the randomized human trials showing that? Right, there are none.

@cyberfunk3793

23 күн бұрын

​@@VernCrisleryou understand there are more than one country and location on the planet? Certainly tap water isn't healthy everywhere but can contain high amount of lead and other heavy metals. It can also contain other toxins depending on the area.

@Jake_demichele

23 күн бұрын

@@VernCrisler uhh, No tap water is LITERALLY NOT the cleanest water in existence, whut? Come to Las Vegas and enjoy yourself a nice glass of our tap water. I don't even need a lab report to taste the nasty shit in it, it's undrinkable how bad it tastes. In other places the tap water is very good, like Oregon, but technically there is still "cleaner water". I'm 99% sure reverse osmosis water filtering or Icelandic spring water are both way cleaner than tap water without even looking at the lab reports.

Yes. Fin.

Make a video about Mesut Özil Transformation after retiring from football

Is olive oil still okay? How about lard?

@connorking984

23 күн бұрын

Fine, they're both fine

Your diet isn't bad until your bloodwork shows it is.

Olive oil or just seeds

How much did big seed oil pay for him to say this?

@tsaryeyed8293

23 күн бұрын

Why not discern whether it's true or not based on some evidence-based rebuttal instead of making emotional reactionary accusations

@charlotte3201

23 күн бұрын

You heard some guy on the internet say seed oils are bad for you and believed him despite there being no solid evidence to back it up, you're a sheep lol.

@BTTREdits

23 күн бұрын

​@@charlotte3201There is a ton of evidence, its toxic and inflammatory, highly processed garbage.

@pricklycats

23 күн бұрын

@@tsaryeyed8293I assumed they were being sarcastic tbh but who knows

@pricklycats

23 күн бұрын

There’s literally like one whole study about seed oils being bad and people just ran with it lmao. I’m not saying they’re good but there’s just not enough evidence to be so focused on such a minor inconsequential issue.

Let’s see what saladino gonna say

Out of moderation, I would assume it is indeed not great. But literally everything is bad out of moderation.

Coconut oil supremacy

@iancanada6875

23 күн бұрын

you misspelled butter

lol ‼️ Smoking rates dropped and obesity went up. Lack of smoking not seed oils has caused this epidemic.

I used to be vehemently against seed oils until it became this huge grift online. Now I inject that shit into my veins and my bloodwork improved.

Discussing this while drinking out of plastic bottles 🥴

@j_lemy

19 күн бұрын

The plastic doesn't leech out into the water in harmful amounts as long as you don't drink water that has sat in the bottles for ages.

Did you hear about the study that just came out reporting that people taking supplements have higher deaths rate. Not necessarily causing it but an interesting study.

@pupper5580

23 күн бұрын

what are supplements? Like vitamins? Or protein powder? I feel like protein powder will cause you higher death rates. Would be interesting if vitamins caused the same.

@CIARUNSITE

23 күн бұрын

Unhealthy people trying to layer supplements on top of their poor diet are probably the main purchasers of those products.

@sebastianboredal7486

23 күн бұрын

@@pupper5580 vitamin supplementation has been linked to health issues. For example, folate supplementation during pregnancy (which is the standard approach) has shown to increase the risk for cancers, immunological, developmental and psychiatric disorders in both mother and child. More isn't always better.

@pupper5580

23 күн бұрын

@@sebastianboredal7486 Interesting. What about things like vitamin C, vitamin B, vitamin D? My understanding is that Vitamin C and Vitamin B in pill form cause anxiety - while if you get Vitamin C or Vitamin B from natural sources (e.g. oranges for vitamin C, meat for vitamin B), they do the opposite of causing anxiety: they calm you down, reduce anxiety.

Beef tallow is great to cook eggs

I remember when the science said aspartame was terrible for you then in 2019 its was suddenly fine… imagine that

KZreadr: Togi Video: "podcast with voices" Please react to one of his more recent steroid cycles that he talks about on camera. I wish i had more videos of his with time stamps so you don't have to waste your time.

Well, I will stick to saturated fats

Low quality discussion.

@pupper5580

23 күн бұрын

for sure. i keep losing braincells even thinking about this discussion.

@jxesse7565

14 күн бұрын

😂

A good olive oil is all you need

You need enough Omega 3 Not too much Oil overall Caprylic Acid C8 MCT Oil is kinda good some Olive Oil is fine

I read somewhere that the heart needs fat for fuel

@mist12345678910

23 күн бұрын

Too much fat and you get atherosclerosis

@connorking984

23 күн бұрын

You need all nutrients in balance, you need selenium and copper and chlorine which sounds crazy but no it's just simple biology

@mist12345678910

23 күн бұрын

@@connorking984 correct. Micronutrients are so crucial. I wouldn't really call it simple because it is hard to understand. The topic is actually organic biochemistry if you want to go more into it.