I don't consider it cheating, just unfair. But mainly unfair to people such as myself who don't want to spend upwards of $150 USD on a video gam controller.

@sebgomez2688

8 жыл бұрын

If you don't want to spend the money then don't complain that's your issue

@captainmacmillan1752

8 жыл бұрын

+Warped Couldnt have said it any better myself. I dont use a scuf, but I always play with a headset. It is not cheating when I soundwhore my enemies since soundwhoring is part of the game but it certainly gives me an unfair advantage over those people that dont use a headset and cannot hear my footsteps.

@Flutsyn

8 жыл бұрын

did you watch the video ? if you cant afford a scuff just play claw ! You are gonna get used to it in under a week

@ceverett68

8 жыл бұрын

$50 send in service for four back paddles, nothing else, and you have a Scuf.

@warped3075

8 жыл бұрын

+Flutsyn I did, but its much easier to play normally and not get arthritis in your fingers from positioning them that way.

Ace the fact that a Scuf user can shoot semi-auto pistol at me and make it feel almost automatic because of the stoppers they have is not fair. Also, by us changing our controller settings make us lose something, for example the ability to knife as fast as opposed to Scuf users who don't have to move their fingers anywhere.

@TheXclusiveAce

8 жыл бұрын

+iDankiie For the trigger stops comment, a lot of people have a good trigger finger regardless of the stops. I literally don't notice a difference in my rate of fire with or without them. Here's a great example of me without my scuf (kzread.info/dash/bejne/nqaDyZR8caycdrg.html). You do bring up a great point about the button layouts and often having to sacrifice something.

@ABQSentinel

8 жыл бұрын

+iDankiie How about this--fuck "fair". I absolutely detest that fucking word because it's not a real word. It's something made up by social Marxists who got this idea in their heads that things should be absolutely equal for all people (i.e. "fair"). Well, guess what? They lied! Nothing has ever been fair, and nothing ever will!

@maphazar7549

8 жыл бұрын

Just use flipped. Better than trigger stops imo and I have them.

@strandny

8 жыл бұрын

+ABQSentinel "Nothing is fair" does not mean you shouldn't aim for achieving equal playing ground.

@extragluten9346

8 жыл бұрын

+Matt “maphazar” Rudd what does flipped do? by the way i am on xbox one

I have always thought they were very unfair and I wish they didn't exist. It gives try hards a huge advantage. Stick and move just doesn't compare, you can jump, knife and drop easily with a scuf.

@Pr3DaToR15

8 жыл бұрын

Play on PC and have no regrets.

@garrettj4806

8 жыл бұрын

Stick and move! I hear everybody talking about bumper jumper and I'm glad someone else uses the glorious stick and move layout

@henrylopez00hl

8 жыл бұрын

+Garrett J i use stick and move and changed the a button with Right bumber because i dont really use tactical grenades

@marztheman7834

8 жыл бұрын

+Garrett J I tried out bumper jumper and I just couldn't get used to it, stick and move is definitely the way to go. Glad to see other people actually use it.

@nealmachado

8 жыл бұрын

I would have agreed, but i switched from normal to claw, so i can jumpshot and more

Cheating? No. Unfair? Yes.

@DerpySuX

8 жыл бұрын

My thoughts.

@sabrefire9164

8 жыл бұрын

Kinda like sbmm lol

@dilapidatedboat8291

8 жыл бұрын

@nocapsorspace very true.

@minhn2888

6 жыл бұрын

Lol there's no difference between the two - they're the same thing- going god mode is unfair but it's not cheating? Or is going god mode cheating but it's fair? It's the same thing, manipulating the gameplay to get an advantage over your opponent who is using oem equipment

@DLBBALL

5 жыл бұрын

Mr Hackmos There certainly is. Just like how activists can’t realize the difference between fairness and equality.

I play on pc idk why I watch this anyways

@dinobot117

8 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@mrspuffoncrack1404

8 жыл бұрын

+Luís Sousa same

@feldspar1496

8 жыл бұрын

anonymos2222 lol my steam name is Anonymous

@lunatik4

8 жыл бұрын

+Luís Sousa i play with a keyboard/mouse on these consoles with an Xim4. it's great as it allows me to be able to play with my friends and not be hindered by a controller. check it out!

@KristianCamp

8 жыл бұрын

+Luís Sousa idk why u watch it either.. maybe it's a sign to stop playin so much pc

I'd like to see the "pros" play without them

@TheXclusiveAce

8 жыл бұрын

+BrianB Many of them do and you'd never know the difference without seeing their hands

@Artis312

8 жыл бұрын

+BrianB Yea like pamaj, he can go beast mode with just playing claw

@AMJ22222

6 жыл бұрын

Justin Hillman OpTic Scump plays claw and was the best player in AW, top 5 in both BO3 and IW, and top 5 all time in cod history doesn't need to use a scuf(he has them without the paddles) so your argument is invalid.

@FlowKom

5 жыл бұрын

would be hilarious. all of them WOULD have to adat to claw or bumper jumper.. but hey spending 150$ is just more COMFORTABLE AY?

@dns_-_9213

5 жыл бұрын

Hahahha I doubt it, most of them have been playing for so long with scuf they'll be shit till they adapt to normal controllers.

In the eyes of Microsoft's Terms of use. It is indeed cheating. Any mod that gives an advantage over another user breaks the TOS. And yes a SCUFF is a modded controller.

@TheXclusiveAce

8 жыл бұрын

+bkpickell What about an Xbox Elite Controller? Is that cheating? It comes stock with a lot of console packages now. If the answer is no and you feel the Elite isn't cheating then the Scuf gives no advantage over the Elite and, therefore, it can't be considered cheating by the logic that you used.

@bkpickell

8 жыл бұрын

Well, those just came out if I'm not mistaken. And I don't believe they are available on last gen. So technically people using scuff on last gen would still be using a modded controller.

@FerrariOnFire

8 жыл бұрын

+Stephan Potter Irrelevant comment

@CouchGuy19

8 жыл бұрын

+bkpickell Yet no one will ever get in trouble by microsoft for using a SCUFF, ever. It may be a modded controller, but it doesn't actually allow you to do anything you can't already do on a normal controller. It may give someone an advantage over those who don't have one, but all the extra buttons do the exact same thing as existing buttons. It is also allowed in MLG and tournament play, so that says it all for me.

@bkpickell

8 жыл бұрын

Couch Guy Yn I know that. I was just making a statement. And if you read the TOS you would see I'm correct. Scuff controllers are modded 360 controllers, Elite controllers are not modded. So there is that. lol

A SCUF is an advantage, not a massive one but an advantage non the less. There is always a compromise with different button layouts, for example I use stick and move but as a result I rarely if ever win panic knifing situations because I have to move my thumb to do it. I can use Tactical and drop shot but have the same issue. A SCUF allows you to do everything with no compromise. It's BS and the game would have been better if they'd never been invented.

@AGoldSoldier

8 жыл бұрын

Just because it gives an edge doesn't make it cheating, it's like any other peripheral for a certain genre: For example, racing games have steering wheels Dogfighting games have joysticks Fighting games also have joysticks and dedicated buttons (I.E. Street fighter game boards) And FPS has extra paddles on the back of their controllers. People like to complain about cheating but it's because this kind of thing is new to them.

@petejohnson2363

8 жыл бұрын

It's not about whether it's cheating or not, it's about whether it's an unfair advantage. Personally I think it is as not everyone has or can afford a SCUF and it's most certainly an advantage, no matter how minor

@AGoldSoldier

8 жыл бұрын

The thing is, Yes it does give you an advantage but it is fair in my opinion and here's why: These controllers allow you to do things much easier than with standard controller BUT you are still able to do these things without the controllers (i.e Jump and continue to aim) with things like bumper jumper or Claw. Same with any other peripheral, It makes playing easier but it doesn't allow you to dominate

@RoyaltyGotHits

8 жыл бұрын

Nah if 3rd party controllers were never invented everyone's movement would be trash. It's not an unfair advantage. Like Ace said in the video, you don't need these controllers to do anything that they help you do, they just make it easier.

@EvO24

8 жыл бұрын

No it isnt. You can play claw which equals it out. Claw is something you have to be skilled to use but its the exact same as using a scuf

I know this probably wouldn't be read much but here's my argument. Since I play PC, this is like comparing using a regular Dell/Hp mouse with like a steel series or Razer mouse. Both do the exact same thing: Allow you to aim. But obviously a branded gaming mouse does with with better precision, accuracy, tracking etc. I still have friends that use a regular stock mouse and they are freaking good with it. To me its about getting used to your hardware and maximising it.

@i.n.r.i.2106

3 жыл бұрын

Mouses tend to be more responsive

I consider a 120€ controller to fuck people up for a 60€ game on a 400€ console as unfair

@Sfishh

8 жыл бұрын

+Maximilian Lawrence If someone spends 3000€ on a gaming PC, nobody bats an eye. Spend 120€ on a controller and everyone loses their minds

@ahmedal122

8 жыл бұрын

+SlimFish3r they're both a waste of money happy now?

@mrspuffoncrack1404

8 жыл бұрын

+SlimFish3r As a PC gamer I'd lose my mind if someone spent 3k Euro on a PC because they got hella ripped off

@serabi_

8 жыл бұрын

+SlimFish3r because what people can do on a 3000€ computer, I can run on a laptop, you can't put paddles or shit on a 60€ controller without spending over the amount for the 120€ one

@serabi_

8 жыл бұрын

+anonymos2222 exactly

until i get a scuf its cheating lol

@momo4044

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

Well it obviously gives an advantage over layers who dont have it, otherwise no one would use it.

People who have a product always wanna justify it. This video was pointless. You're basically saying "Yes, I have a Scuf controller so no, its not cheating because you can do it without the controller." While yes that may be true, it still allows you to do multiple commands at once, which serves as an advantage over an opponent. So since you can do that without a Scuf, then why did you buy one? And before you say "What about the Elite controller?" Look at the price of it, and I still consider that an unfair advantage, no matter who it comes from. I don't care who uses them, but the question was what we thought. Thats just my opinion.

@imneight7916

8 жыл бұрын

He stated in the video that he bought a scuf in order to be able to do those movements more comfortably. Pay attention.

@gugeyao8640

8 жыл бұрын

100% agree

@StarKittens

7 жыл бұрын

Exactly, and if you can do those movements "more comfortably," in essence, it's 'easier' then it does give an unfair advantage over those users who not only find it uncomfortable to play in "claw" but "hard as hell" to play in claw. Using middle fingers on the back-side of the controller doesn't require finger gymnatics like "claw" can for some people (particularly me with my short fingers). lol. All using middle fingers on the back-side of the controller require is re-wiring muscle memory by constant use. Claw is just awkward for my hand to physically perform. So for me, anyone using a method to keep their thumbs on the joysticks at all times with the ability to jump, aim, and shoot all at once will always have an unfair advantage over a person like me playing with a traditional controller that finds "claw" style unbearably hard to do.

@TheKingdavis09

6 жыл бұрын

Zay there are options within the game that allow you to do multiple functions without using a scuff etc.

@megaton_a

6 жыл бұрын

So people that can play claw have an unfair advantage because you find it too uncomfortable? That's like saying people who can aim better have an unfair advantage because you're not comfortable with an analog stick enough to aim well. Or that people with no jobs and don't go to school, who can no-life CoD have an unfair advantage over people who can only play a couple matches a day. At the end of the day, regardless of what controller you're using the more skilled player is going to win 99.999% of the time. Dumping a bunch of cash into a fancy controller isn't going to improve your aim or give you better reaction times. This just sounds to me like another excuse people throw out when they lose. "It wasn't that I had less skill or that my opponents were better than me... it's because of their controller!" Sorry bud, but no.

I do not have a scuf but I was able to easily learn Stick and Move with the regular controller and I can jump and fire easily.

@fisheo

8 жыл бұрын

same

@Sfishh

8 жыл бұрын

+Alex Pezold Since my Scuf broke I picked up stick and move and I can't honestly say there would be a big difference. Scuf feels more comfortable in hand probably but that's it.

@kajinx1848

8 жыл бұрын

Hey Alex it's Seth!

@juubijinchuuriki7302

8 жыл бұрын

right

@serabi_

8 жыл бұрын

my problem is I HAD to adapt to a new controller scheme because I can't play casual anymore when everyone else uses scuff, which is annoying. being forced to play a different way to "have fun" is annoying imho

Let's be honest if you couldn't afford a scuf there's a 90 percent chance you would think it's unfair too, don't even lie.

@preacherh9876

8 жыл бұрын

+Calvin Boateng again CLAW!!!

I disagree, a SCUF controller obviously gives you an unfair advantage. If not, then why do all pro players use SCUF? SCUF is BS.

@justinv6132

8 жыл бұрын

Because they are easier to use than a normal controller. Dont shit on it just because you dont have one.

@minhn2888

6 жыл бұрын

Pros use scufs so it's legit? So because role models do drugs, commit crimes, etc it means it's legit? They shouldn't be allowed to use them.... scuf probably pays a shit ton of money to have their product to be used - everyone has a price, doesn't mean it's a fair and honest way of playing

@FlowKom

5 жыл бұрын

and whats even more easy to use is a mouse and keyboard to aim.. so why isnt that allowed in console ESL ?

@FlowKom

5 жыл бұрын

best argument of the month.

@gvid999

5 жыл бұрын

how is it unfair when you can do it with a normal pad if you change stick and button layout

After I used SCUF for few months Now I cant play with the normal controller anymore

@smearedperogies5047

8 жыл бұрын

Same

@cliffshort3260

8 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@captainnoobface1124

8 жыл бұрын

It's a crutch not even going to lie

@mrspuffoncrack1404

8 жыл бұрын

+uaestar I started playing FPS games on PC with mouse and keyboard. Now I can't play with any controller anymore.

@SiapSiup

8 жыл бұрын

+uaestar I played scuf for few months and two days ago I switched to claw just to try it out. For me claw gives me more fun, I realized I hate being dependent on hardware.

Some youtubers: 30 minute video, 5 minute intro. Ace: "alright I'm Ace, this is what I'm talking about today, let's do this. *2 second intro*

Hey ace did you just g-slide at 4:16 and if so how did you do it.I seen your video on it but it's so hard to do. Well I'm just hoping that you found a easily way to do it.

If it's that big of a deal to people, just go out there and buy one yourself. Thus, you now have the same "advantage".

@alxbengosu

8 жыл бұрын

+Kurtis Kroetsch If you can afford a PS4 or XBOX One you can afford to spend a little more on a controller. Matter of fact, people usually buy a second controller to play split screen with friends. That excuse is pretty tired out.

@motherlove8366

8 жыл бұрын

+alxbengosu That argument makes even less sense. A scuff controller is more than 3 times more expensive than the game itself and sometimes half the price of the actual console with which you can play multiple games, watch movies or go online. A scuff controller is simply not the sort of investment a casual gamer can afford to make.

@alxbengosu

8 жыл бұрын

I hear there's this "claw" grip you can use with normal controllers? So like I said in the above post, you either change your style or buy a Scuff-like controller. That is if you want to be "competitive" in pubs. Most casual gamers don't care, from what I see in multiplayer pub matches.

You mentioned you have a scuf for both PS4 and XB1 do you also have BO3 for XB1? Because I find that BO3 has way more aim assist on PS4 then on XB1.. its rediculous! Can you test this and maybe make a video on this?

A better headset helps out more then a scuf controller

@soraajin

8 жыл бұрын

I agree

I had a scuf to my 360, and it was really nice. However now I don't really care. Have the Vesper been buffed again? I saw that someone used it when I played today and it seemed like it didn't have as much recoil now (I know that your gameplay is old, so I aint asking this because of it)

i have a scuff but i keep using X for jumping and O for sliding, its kinda hard to stop using this button and only use the pad behind the controllers

@Marscompany

5 жыл бұрын

You need to get used to it bit it doesn't take that long After one week using my scuf I was at the same skill level than before

This is exactly what I would expect to hear from a scuf user. It's clearly an unfair advantage, you're playing it down by saying you can do with a scuf what you can do with a regular one, but it's just a little more comfortable. It's more than that, it makes it very easy to evade bullets while allowing you to maintain your normal accuracy, which is simply just not possible with a regular controller, and the claw technique is bad for you're fingers, and probably increases your chances of getting carpal tunnel too. You're playing it down like it's not s clear advantage, but no one would buy scuf, let alone two like yourself, no one would spend THAT much more money on a controller if it wasn't for the very clear advantage scufs will give you. I know the advantage, I'm thankful bumper jumper tactical is now a new button layout, because it's the only way to put myself at the same advantage that a scuf player has, but most people don't know about this new button layout, so it's still easy to outplay other players just by simply jumping, cause they can't, they can jump and then shoot, but I can jump three times while shooting someone which makes me way harder to hit. Unfair advantage.

@Matt-sg3mj

8 жыл бұрын

Greatly said

@monkeyman0759

8 жыл бұрын

Like you said your self you can do the same thing with bumper jumper. Just less comfortably.

@bkpickell

8 жыл бұрын

+MonkeyMan075 but muscle memory still wants to hit A sometimes. And without a scuff it will get you killed, because on a scuff A is still jump. go into a wall run with an alternate button layout and hit A, you are either throwing a tactical or knifing. and don't get me started on knifing. I cant even use the ripper specialist, because I keep forgetting A is my knife.

@monkeyman0759

8 жыл бұрын

+bkpickell I took me a day or two to learn but I got it eventually but still all preference of the player

@anabukashka

6 жыл бұрын

His argument also does not hold ground when it comes to the xbox elite controller: it has hair triggers and an app that allows you to change the sensitivity curves, fine tune them in great detail, it is something that the games usually DOES NOT ALLOW. SCUF, elite controllers and mouse and keyboards adapters for consoles are a market that feeds on providing unfair advantage and some form of cheating to console gaming.

people who suck at the game have to use special controllers and mods to cheat, and they were shagged by their uncle as a child.

@TheInquisitor777

4 жыл бұрын

He's speaking the language of the gods

Hello. I was wondering what button layout you use on your scuf controller. Thank you.

+TheXclusiveAce is your scuf the default setup? I sent mine back to reconfigure it. For me, I prefer using the right paddle to jump and left paddle for knife.

Thibk about it like this: its the equivalent and haveing two kids in a basketball 1v1 Kid #1 is wearing jeans, a t shirt, and has a worn down basketball Kid #2 has $2000 air jordans, basketball shorts, a tanktop and maximum grip ball Now it does come down to who is better at basketball, but obviously kid #2 will have a much easier time

@Thelegogunman1234

8 жыл бұрын

You forgot about Kid #2 has Elite socks and a headband and an arm sleeve.

They aren't cheating at all IMO. Maybe a little unfair. Before I got my scuf I could still jump shot with relative ease. Now that I got one its just a lot easier. I feel it's a little unfair because there are some gunfights that I know I probably wouldn't have won if I didn't have a scuf.

@BrantPeterson

8 жыл бұрын

+legalkillerkev He said they weren't cheating in the first sentence...Do you even reading comprehension bro?

@TheCam2125

8 жыл бұрын

legalkillerkev Cheating is acting dishonestly or unfairly so it can be viewed as cheating.

@TheCam2125

8 жыл бұрын

legalkillerkev IMO is an abbreviation just like "lmao" So maybe you should stop using that. It's the internet people use abbreviations to type fast. In real life I wouldn't say IMO

@TheCam2125

8 жыл бұрын

legalkillerkev It's really not that stupid since people will think you are acting like it's a fact when all you did was state your opinion.

@TheCam2125

8 жыл бұрын

legalkillerkev No but it literally means the same thing. I don't know why you have a problem with it. You seem to get mad online too easy.

Keep banging these videos out and you'll go far dude 👊

Great videos Xclusive Ace by the way ;-)

While playing on stick and move, holding down the right analog stick can mess up aim more than having a SCUF or Xbox One Elite controller. The people who spend more money on those special controllers have a clear advantage, and it is unfair. Is it cheating? That's debatable. Elite controllers sold by actual console developers and manufacturers are very similar to SCUFs, but SCUF is a modded controller (yes, it is modified). I'd say no, it's a legal modified controller.

@damanichildrey84

4 жыл бұрын

The paddles on the back of Microsoft were designed in the lights of Racing games. I don't blame them; making gear shifts feel like real shifting.

scuff is a modded controller dude.... and his function is help to kill more easy. so... definitely is Unfair for player that doesn't have one of these.

@serabi_

8 жыл бұрын

exactly, people don't know the meaning of a modded controller, it doesn't matter what it has on it, it is a modified controller, and in Xbox's terms of service they state that these things are not allowed

@MrViperlash

8 жыл бұрын

Of course, but since then Microsoft has endorsed scuf (Sony allows them at events they have sponsored so that shows support). Microsoft has also released their own version of a scuf controller; the Elite controller.

@johnhelpme4821

7 жыл бұрын

RAAAYOS people that have scuf dont have god mode so stop crying

@YokaiX

6 жыл бұрын

Ppl seem to think a SCUF is just magically going to make you win every gunfight all the time which simply isn't true. You still need to have accuracy skill even while using a Scuf to hit your target and stay on target etc. And a Scuf can't improve a player's overall skill like timing, map knowledge, predicting and reading enemies etc. Also there are CoD KZreadrs out there who don't own or use a Scuf and are really great with regular controllers. So in conclusion anyone who bitches about Scuf just sucks at CoD or other FPS games and needs to face that fact and admit it's the truth.

I was actually looking into getting one. Any ones you can recommend?

Off topic, but I noticed you were able to do the G-slide in this video, and I'm assuming this is new gameplay. Do you have any tips on how to do it effectively now after it got patched? I know you have to time it absolute perfectly, but I haven't been able to find that sweet spot yet (on PC). I quite miss that feature

@TheXclusiveAce

8 жыл бұрын

+Andabraud It was actually older gameplay I had saved up. I've been super sick and unable to record much lately

@Andabraud

8 жыл бұрын

+TheXclusiveAce Ah right okay. Well, thanks anyway :)

was the game designed with scuf controllers in mind? no. the game was designed to be used with a regular PS4 or XBONE controller. I would say scuf is cheating because it adds more functionality that wasn't intended. I have a special keyboard that I use for playing MMO's. Theres a bunch more buttons around my hand that allows me to press buttons that would normally be out of reach like (CTRL + 0). Is this cheating? yes I would say it is. I was a much better player because of this. And I can tell you right now that the games I played with PvP were real unfair for the other players since most use a normal keyboard to play. The argument can always be made that anyone could go out and buy a scuf or in my case a razer Anansi. But the games weren't designed with those peripherals in mind. They don't allow you to do anything you couldn't do before, but they sure as hell allow you to do more than what was intended. Personally I don't care either way what anyone uses. I consider myself a cheater and would be a hypocrite if I didn't call myself one after explaining my viewpoint. But as long as the game was designed for standard peripherals, I would call anyone using anything that gave you an advantage over other players a cheater.

@VGamer07

6 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@damanichildrey84

4 жыл бұрын

You need to make this go viral on Twitter. The point is...if this is the new style. Release these controllers for everyone during the release of a new console. Nope;won't happen because its too powerful of a tool.

@Thatabc

4 жыл бұрын

Best comment on here

Is it cheating ? No. Is it unfair ? yes.

@csalgado1717

8 жыл бұрын

It's not even unfair, it's an advantage. But me playing claw it's fine you just have to put effort, or even just play bumper jumper

Great video man, get well soon!

I don't have a problem with these controllers but I'm unsure as to what you mean by rapid fire; like how people break the cap on the MR6 or just cap the fire rate out? Also, which would be better; A SCUF or an Elite?

DO U EVEN BUMPER JUMPER BRO

It's pay to try and succeed. I'm sure people don't buy them and are automatically nadeshot

On PS4 you can make custom button assignments. I use L1-aim, R1-shoot, L2-jump, R2-slide, X-lethal, O-tactical. Gives me the same abilities as scuff for free. Plus you can turn it on/off by holding the PS button and selecting/unselecting it in the menu.

The ability to switch weapons jump reload Crouch/prone position Jump shot Drop shot All without moving your thumbs from the Analog Is a clear advantage Over default controllers

scuff controllers actually gives you a 1.2 sec shot faster than a person who doesn't have a scuff. so it is cheating in a way.

Ace you're bang on. Shame to see the delusion in these comments.

Hi, i have i question, since you have both consoles (xbox one and ps4), do you play on both COD3?...If so, do you notice any advantage specifically on the connection on the PS4?...I own a X1 and i feel that lags a little, especially in night time, i get a ping of 80-90ms, in daytime i get about 40-50ms which is great, but with 80-90 ms im always a second behind. So im thinking in trade or sell my X1 and buy a PS4. Id like to know your opinion. My internet connection is: 100mb download and 25 upload. with fiber.

I have gotten used to the "stick and move" button layout and can say it's every bit as effective as when I had my scuf. I have a 3.0 kd and don't feel at a disadvantage when competing against other players that I know are using scufs.

@LivingDeadbeat

8 жыл бұрын

+A Hays3 Stick and move is incredible

It is unfair, you said yourself that it's a matter of "comfort and ergonomics." Well those are advantages behind a pay wall, which makes them unfair. Not to mention how playing claw requires practice to do effectively, as opposed to the easy pick uo of a Scuf. Scufs aren't cheating, but they are unfair.

@fog4259

3 жыл бұрын

No because even if you have them , that doesn’t makes you instantly better

@emotivation2841

3 жыл бұрын

@@fog4259 But it gives you an unfair advantage locked behind a paywall. A player that is the same level of skill as a player with a scuf is at a disadvantage because of a paywall. Hence, unfair.

@fog4259

3 жыл бұрын

@@emotivation2841 then basically having better hardware is cheating. Usain bolt is cheating because he has better genes than me.The rich people are cheating to because they have more money. Eating food is cheating because there are people that they just can’t eat.

@fog4259

3 жыл бұрын

@@emotivation2841 skill is totally subjective to the person who is playing. I was cranking like crazy with a fucking iPad at 30fps. There are pro players playing at 60fps against people with 240.

@emotivation2841

3 жыл бұрын

@@fog4259 I did not say that having better hardware was cheating, I said it was unfair, which is an indisputable fact. People that don't have the money to pay for something like that will be at a disadvantage to people that do.

totally agree with you Ace. Microsoft has their own and all the major competitions allow them so it isn't cheating and even saying they are unfair is stretching it, really thin. get used to another button layout or claw. or just get one for yourself,I really don't see how a gamer can't afford one. if you're that casual of a player then it shouldn't even be an issue. Scuf, battle beaver, I think even cinch offer a send in service for the controller you're already using making it cheaper. maybe we'll all get lucky and the consoles will start being sold with these types of controllers included

@DeXdAA

8 жыл бұрын

but how can you expect someone who has no money to adapt to compete with those that do?

@SOFUBIS

8 жыл бұрын

+DeXdAA Modify your controller yourself. It's not hard.

@ImmortalJeremy

8 жыл бұрын

I'm don't play competitive but I like to do well( I'm kinda like a serious casual gamer).I'm in that category who really can't afford a $120 controller since that's the cost of a book for college but I lose gunfights because all these guys go around jump shooting with their scuff. It honestly makes me really mad that they can pay for an obvious advantage. And I don't want to change my button layout because I've been gaming all my life and I'm used to certain buttons doing certain things... It's not worth the learning curve

@ceverett68

8 жыл бұрын

+DeXdAA I guess if you want to play competitively you'll save the money for one. am I so out of touch that these controllers are unattainable by some? I went for a long time without one and, I didn't want to spend that much got a controller but when I finally did it yes it was worth it. so much more natural and comfortable, and easier. if you're serious about playing even just serious casual gaming save the money for one. send in service with four paddles is $50. you won't get remapping or grips or trigger stops but you'll get the extra paddles

@ceverett68

8 жыл бұрын

+ImmortalJeremyHD I feel your pain. see my other reply. $50 send in service is a no frills special for the extra paddles from Scuf. I'm not sure what battle beaver costs for send in but they have awesome customer service. you can complain about people using them or bite the bullet and save for one. When I finally got one I thought it was worth it if for no other reason than Lee frustration from losing those same gunfights

What do you think about using mouse on consoles to play CoD and similar game ? Is it cheating ? Should this be banned ?

is the vesper his using after the nerf or not?

Cheating? No Unfair? Yes I think they're unfair because yes it's not doing anything that the game doesn't allow you to do, however for a casual gamer or even for one who plays a lot, they can do movement that we simply cannot do like they can with ease. i've tried different button layouts, tried using claw grip, and they just feel horrible, i cant get use to the buttons on a different layout, im forever pressing the wrong ones cus im so use to pressing the normal ones, claw grip i find it really hard to aim and it's not very comfy, i would like a scuf myself but i cant afford one.

@ahays3168

8 жыл бұрын

I have been using the "stick and move" layout. It's not that difficult to adjust to, and I don't feel at a disadvantage when competing against players that are using a scuf. I would recommend it.

@alexellis2233

8 жыл бұрын

i have tried it, i feel as though the aim is not as smooth, and as easy as you obviously have to press it in, and in crucial gun fights if you feel you need to jump, your aim isnt as good, but im willing to try it again

@alexellis2233

8 жыл бұрын

A Hays3 im having trouble aiming whilst jumping with stick and move its really hard, as your stick is pressed down which decreases accuracy

They should make the stock controllers for xbox and ps have scuf buttons.

@justinv6132

8 жыл бұрын

What? Why?

@shawntannehill

8 жыл бұрын

Nova StrykerHD Because they are superior to a normal controller. You can keep both fingers on the knobs while manipulating a button of your choice. You wouldn't have to use them but they are there if you want to. It also would even out the playing field because people are using them. Lots of people use them and love them because they work.

@JohnJohnson-fy6dt

6 жыл бұрын

Why would they make that come with the console if you could just milk more money buying it separately

@killtheposer

6 жыл бұрын

Can’t scuf has Patton’s

@malrenyt5609

6 жыл бұрын

Sony and microsoft may do this in their ps5 & xb2 controller,if they made it i would be happy.

is it really worth getting a scuf if the the knew cod is boots on the ground or they only really useful for the advance movement games

I didn't even realize that Black Ops III offers a button layout to jump/crouch while maintaining your thumbs on the sticks. I remember checking it in MW3 and Ghosts, where you had to decide between knifing or couching by pressing the right stick. Definitely need to check this out, so thanks for the advice!

by the same logic couldn't you argue that the rapid fire controllers are also not cheating because you can simply hold the button or push it repeatedly both still possible outcomes with either controller..

@TheXclusiveAce

8 жыл бұрын

+Valar_Morghulis You simply can't replicate what a rapid fire mod does without the mod. I can replicate everything a scuf does without using a scuf.

@yaboytpoo9083

8 жыл бұрын

+TheXclusiveAce you underestimate my trigger finger... lol jk

@ceverett68

8 жыл бұрын

rapid fire does things the game wasn't programmed for

@yaboytpoo9083

8 жыл бұрын

does it actually make the gun fire faster than the guns fire rate cap? Or does it just make the game think you're pushing the fire button really really fast. Cuz if that's the case, how is it cheating? Couldn't you just push the fire button really really fast

@ceverett68

8 жыл бұрын

matthew wensink it turns semi auto weapons into full auto weapons, with insane fire rates. think sheiva firing like a vesper

Scuf controllers are unfair and cheating. The ONLY reason button layouts like bumper jumper/stick n' move exist is to try to balance out all the scuf players. The controller is BULLSHIT honestly. You literally have extra buttons ! how is that not cheating or unfair? Yeah sure i can switch my button layout and Boom i can jumpshot, okay. But now my knife is "x". Mean while the scuf guy can jumpshot with one pannel, panic knife/and or reload with the other and drop shot with r3 lol

@TheXclusiveAce

8 жыл бұрын

+JBHviews What about the xbox elite controller that now comes as the stock controller with a lot of xbox packages? It does the same thing as a Scuf. Are you a cheater if you use the stock controller that comes with your console?

@yautjahunter8382

8 жыл бұрын

+TheXclusiveAce to be honest i think thats only come out because of scuff and paddle controllers. both an RF controller and a paddle controller allow you to more easily do something within the game. how you can say one is cheating but not the other is not logical. as i said before personally i dont care what people use as long as its not a mod menu or other related nonsense. niether controller are going to give you a wall hack and an aim bot after all ☺

@GreenMachineOG

8 жыл бұрын

+JBHviews Is it unfair if people play claw? It would be impossible to tell if a player is using Scuf or claw unless you were physically there to see. Scufs were created to combat claw in the first place (well claw is terrible for your hand muscles anyways).

@yautjahunter8382

8 жыл бұрын

+The GreenMachine as i said i dont really care personally. use whatever you want. i was commenting that the logic seemed a little strange.

@GreenMachineOG

8 жыл бұрын

I wasn't commenting on your reply, you weren't mentioned, but I understand what you're saying.

is scuf's bottom buttons better than just using bumper jumper? that is what i've switched to recently.

@ziftor6933

8 жыл бұрын

you just have to get the controls under control. but scuf makes it a bit easier than bumper jumper.

I never thought about the CLAW hand position until you mentioned it. I played Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 using my index to change the manual positions, hitting square, triangle and Circle (on PS1) :) Maybe I will try out other controller setups to see if they work for me.

OK this is going to get a lot of flak and please be respectful when I say this but I think that a rapid fire mod controller is not cheating let me tell you why 1. the gun will still shoot at the same max fire rate and stats will still be the same 2. If this is considered cheating then scuf might as well be because it is adding something to the controller in which u can do your self 3. it dose not make ANY weapon over powered because if the Shiva shoots at let's say 200 rpm and u don't use a rapid fire mod controller then you will shoot at 150 rpm ( human oversampling and error) as the rapid fire mod controller will let u shoot at the full 200 rpm which keeps the gun the Same 4 it takes no skill to use rapid fire controller? then by that logic it takes no skill to use a scuf. look you can fire a Shiva at full fire rate you can play clawed pls remember whether your on each side (rapid fire is cheating or is not cheating) be respectful with your comments\ debate\ discussion as you can obviously see I'm on the side its not cheating

@TheXclusiveAce

8 жыл бұрын

+jesse scavotto 1. When the semi auto has a low fire rate cap with no oversampling like the Sheiva, I can see this argument because anyone can easily maintain that max fire rate with ease. The problem comes when you have a high fire rate semi-auto or a semi-auto that can be oversampled. In this case, the rapid fire controller is allowing you to do something that is literally impossible to replicate without the mod and it's circumventing a system that was put in place to keep the semi-autos more balanced (Oversampling). 2. Like I said, with a high fire rate gun with oversampling, the mod DOES allow you to do something that you can't do yourself, unlike the scuf. 3. Some modded controllers allow you to EXCEED the max fire rate using a jitter. For example, I've seen tons of clips of a brecci firing at 800+RPM because of a modded controller which is completely game breaking. 4. A rapid fire mod isn't a 1:1 input, a scuf is. With a rapid fire controller you only need to press one button to perform nearly limitless actions that are meant to require 1 button press for each action. With a scuf, it's still 1 button press per action.

@Zer0Stxtic

8 жыл бұрын

+jesse scavotto My reply to people who use mod controllers ( not scuff or other legit controllers ) get good scrub

@iconic4609

8 жыл бұрын

+jesse scavotto it's not cheating because you use it, basically, right? if a gun is not meant to be fired at an automatic fire rate, like an M6 or a shiva, then why mad a controller to make it do so. if you cant rapidly move your finger that fast to fire then it shouldn't be as simple at holding down the freaking trigger as you would a vesper. Especially something with such high DMG and so little recoil. it's a joke and it lacks skill. This has nothing to do with scuf. it has everything to do with modded controllers that allow rapid fire features to gain an upper hand

@Zer0Stxtic

8 жыл бұрын

Drew Collins spot on thank you lol

@punishedchad8733

8 жыл бұрын

+jo Ben other than the jitter bug bs

Says the guy who is selling scuff controllers.

@TheXclusiveAce

8 жыл бұрын

+Outrjs I'm not affiliated with Scuf in any way.

@Outrjs

8 жыл бұрын

+TheXclusiveAce are you making a video promoting scuff controllers and getting likes and views that pays you? It's okay to be a salesman.

@TheXclusiveAce

8 жыл бұрын

+Outrjs I have never been in contact with anyone at Scuf. I don't receive any form of compensation whatsoever from the company.

@Outrjs

8 жыл бұрын

+TheXclusiveAce okay. Thanks for the video.

You have options in you buttonlayout section called bumper jumper (tactical) so you jump with L1 (LB) and throw tacticals with X (A) or stick and move to jump by tappung your right stick and melee with X (A)

What do you think of Battle Beaver controler

I can do everything with a normal controller that a scuff can so I guess I'm better than the mlg pros lol

@darthbadguy5792

8 жыл бұрын

So the answer is no it's not cheating plus you can actually customize your controller and ad nice grip to it that comes attached to the controller no grip cases off amazon

@ustasa8963

7 жыл бұрын

Darth BadGuy how mich nukes do you have when you are better that a pro?

I think it's unfair in competitive it's crutch and modifications

@Tehstool

8 жыл бұрын

+Russell Bailey The only reason it is fair in competitive is that you use the scuf controller to get even with the claw players, and everyone has one. The reason it is not fair anywhere else is because people who play claw are in the minority and most players will have the controller that comes with their console.

Ace, is this gameplay recorded before or after the vesper nerf?

@adj9160

8 жыл бұрын

he said it is old gameplay so I guess yeah

do you ever use your conter uav/hellstorm

As a claw player myself. Are Scuffs cheating? No. Are they unfair? No. Is there some sort of advantage? Yes, otherwise nobody would buy them in the first place.

@jman2102001

8 жыл бұрын

but a FAIR advantage, which i believe you mean anyway

@Rap1dACE

8 жыл бұрын

+Chain Wallet Also scufs are an advantage just like kontrol freeks and headsets are. Having a good connection is an advantage. If someone calls scuf cheating well they don't comprehend that they are playing a online game which is an advantage or disadvantage in itself. An online game will never show you're 100% skill in every game so really people buy these products so they have an advantage over the unfairness of a game.

@jman2102001

8 жыл бұрын

Zee Zen That changed my entire perspective.... good point mate

Is a Scuf worth the price or not??? Please help me!

@adi1234567892

8 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@Tehstool

8 жыл бұрын

+Elco Berlemont If you play a lot and/or have the money to spend then it's up to you whether or not you think being able to jumpshot and aim comfortably is worth it.

@DerpySuX

8 жыл бұрын

You can get just as good playing normally, I say no.

@echogaming5408

8 жыл бұрын

+Elco Berlemont PLEASE don't get a scuf!!!

@henri2140

8 жыл бұрын

+Elco Berlemont the quality is questionable according to a lot of reports (break quickly), and you can do exactly the same thing by switching to bumper jumper and learning that (takes 1-3 day max to learn). If you have money to waste a good headset does more for you, that should be the first choice

I personally own a Xbox elite controller and play stick and move, got used to it before I bought the elite. I find that I do play better with the elite, but more to the fact I am using techniques I don't feel comfortable without it. could I have pulled it off prior to owning the elite? probably but I never tried.

I play claw, but my fingers are too short so I cannot shoot and jump at the same time unless I change the aim and shoot to L1, R1 but that feels awkward

For me, they aren't cheating, but they're kind of unfair. Now before I drown in sweat from Mountain Dew guzzlers ready to put my head on a stake, listen to my argument. I play with a standard controller, no different layout, no claw, and I do just fine. Lets say I buy a scuf, there will be a noticeable difference in my gameplay. The reason I find this unfair is because if you take two equal skilled players, and give one a scuf, it gives the player with the scuf an advantage in a situation that would have been 50/50. That is why I see it as unfair.

@nicomauri8222

8 жыл бұрын

so you must think that headsets are unfair too?

@Machine1136

8 жыл бұрын

+I IS DERPY Sure, but wouldn't there be a noticeable difference in your gameplay if you just changed your button layout (and learned to jump and aim with the new layout) or learned to play claw - neither of which require paying money for a Scuf?

@wurffles5586

8 жыл бұрын

i dont have a scuf and i destroy kids with scufs in gbs.

@DerpySuX

8 жыл бұрын

+Nico Mauri no, headsets don't alter gameplay, they simply increase immersion, I use a default Xbox headset and destroy people with Astros.

@DerpySuX

8 жыл бұрын

+THEVibeVictorians I never said that couldn't happen, I'm talking about equal skill, however, not differing skill, you are most likely much better than the people with scufs that you play against.

They aren't cheating, but they're unfair

@airdaddy1706

8 жыл бұрын

+Tyler Taricco explain

@ricksanchez4408

8 жыл бұрын

I don't see how, it only takes a few days to adjust to a new button layout in custom games, a few days of work to buy one, if your old enough, a few days to use claw but it is harder to play claw for a first time. The fourth option being asking your parents and fifth is just deal with it. 5 options to chose

@sick_ibg712

8 жыл бұрын

No they're not, anyone can get them.

ace tips for vesper recoil? i watvhed ur recoil vid it was really helpful. but the vesper exceeds that. ive mastered vmp recoil but i cant manage the vesper, especially after the nerf. any tips?

@ABQSentinel

8 жыл бұрын

+MultiMasterGamer101 He said in another thread that this is gameplay from before the February 8th patch which nerfed the Vesper.

@Tehstool

8 жыл бұрын

+MultiMasterGamer101 If you watched his video then that's all you can do. I had to get gold on the vesper post nerf to get dark matter, and then I used it a little bit more after that. My accuracy and recoil control is great, but sometimes the vesper just wouldn't work with me.

I play claw so if i bought a scuff i'd add a second or third trigger botton. Would that be cheating?

Unfair advantage, especially with the boost jumping

Won't ever need one because claw is amazing

@127chevelle

8 жыл бұрын

It really is, i started playing claw a month ago and my k/d went from a 1.30 to a 2:15

@Adama.1

8 жыл бұрын

+Chevelle Garcia really now. a controller did that? I got a 4 kd with normal controller. Hell with claw I would be able to go pro wouldn't I? Damn they really need to bann these things.

@25may02

8 жыл бұрын

+Jesse Pinkman claw isnt a controller. Its a way of holding the controller that allows you to use your index finger for the abxy buttons.

@Adama.1

8 жыл бұрын

25may02 oh just like claw and palm grip on mouse I see ok interesting

@serabi_

8 жыл бұрын

claw hurts my hands so I just switched my B button with my right stick

Ace you are the best cod youtuber you dont ask for likes your voice is calming you dont have outbursts of like rage or like screaming if you get something good in SD honestly I would say for etiquette 10/10 Keep up the good work and videos

What about the horipad fps plus without using turbo button?

Yep Pay 2 Win is real

a scuf controller is a modded controller

@vrxmbov2514

8 жыл бұрын

+GAMER4 LIFE mod mäd/ informal verb past tense: modded; past participle: modded make modifications to; modify. "both the single-player and multiplayer games can be modded" a scuf isnt the original xbox or ps controller the controllers a taken apart and gets modified by a 3rd party company

@minhn2888

6 жыл бұрын

Yes it is, it is a modification of the original controller that is sold with the console

Used to use the razer onza and they didn't use paddles but instead they have an extra right and left button which would be behind your grenade/stuns buttons that could be programmed to be any button on the controller using two buttons on the back

Have you ever seen Urban from Infused (Europe Pro Team also in CWL) He always has a fullauto mr6

I feel like scuf controllers are cheating because it's not what the console orginally came with and gives you a advantage and helps ...why can't people just play fair with a normal controller

@TheXclusiveAce

8 жыл бұрын

+UR Momma The Elite controller now comes with certain console packages.

@serabi_

8 жыл бұрын

+ReinforcedRitter what he's saying is it's unfair to play with a none Xbox marketed controller, I say any controller that is not manufactured by Xbox should not be allowed on Xbox, I'm fine with elites but I find it unfair to have extra equipment (extra paddles, easier movement with joysticks, looser triggers for faster firing, ect).

@cyroncoffey2112

8 жыл бұрын

+Christopher Castillo trigger stops

@indicaflower2734

8 жыл бұрын

+Christopher Castillo yes haha thank you for explaining it better

@cyroncoffey2112

8 жыл бұрын

+UR Momma no worries, I have the elite controller I agree it give me an advantage for example jump shooting and easy controller with the back paddles

Here's a simple flow chart to tell you when something is unfair: Does it give an advantage? If the answer is yes, then it is unfair. It's as simple as that. SCUF controllers give players an advantage, therefore they are unfair. I think you have a bias since you use SCUF controllers.

What is your opinion on keyboard and mouse on consoles?

@TheXclusiveAce

8 жыл бұрын

+NORGamer If they're also using target assist, I consider that to be cheating because you're gaining the advantages of having a massive range of motion with the mouse combined with the target assist that's simply meant to make up for the inadequacies of the analog sticks. The developers clearly don't intend for this to be possible since they actively try to stop people from abusing this combination on PC. On PC, if you're using a keyboard and mouse, target assist will be unavailable but as soon as you plug a controller in, you now have the option to use it. You aren't supposed to be taking advantage of both.

@Flutsyn

8 жыл бұрын

+TheXclusiveAce so you are telling me that all this time i couldve have used aim assist on my pc instead of wasting all my dingo bullet on one guy and dying ? thats so broken hopefully they fix it soon

Is this gameplay from before the g-slide patch?

7 views, 6 likes, :) that's pretty good

@russellbailey1699

8 жыл бұрын

Jasonbeasadcommentfuck

@soraajin

8 жыл бұрын

+Russell Bailey Russell be commenting gibberish

@joshdennett3658

8 жыл бұрын

+JasonBeKillin you remember me from Ace's streams? I'm joshdennett1010 lol

@soraajin

8 жыл бұрын

+Zlatan Ibrahimovic Yea I remember the name

@soraajin

8 жыл бұрын

+Zlatan Ibrahimovic :3

It's not cheating but it's unfair, who agrees?

@malrenyt5609

6 жыл бұрын

You know my answer.

@charliewickliffe2203

5 жыл бұрын

Yep

I use bumper jumper tactical and just changed my handle positioning on my controller. my middle finger is on top of the left trigger while my index finger is on the left bumper. My ring finger is wrapped around the curve at the bottom on the trigger. I have gotten used to this and I can do the same thing as a scuf can.

@wonderfulrein4554

8 жыл бұрын

I just recently changed to it. Took about two weeks for my hand to stop cramping and not it's comfortable af. I play all my other games this way even if it doesn't benefit from it.

switch the button layout to "bumper jumper" where r1(ps4) or rb(xb1) is the jump button so you never have to take your thumb off the stick to jump

Just use Bumper Jumper Tactical lol it's op

@black_ice7822

8 жыл бұрын

For real

@rorylawrence

8 жыл бұрын

+Thirst how do you aim and jump? Unless you use middle finger to shoot which is just uncomfortable

@michaelrizzo8087

8 жыл бұрын

Yep this is what I do. Only thing I hate is it's hard to use the ripper

@bruh5497

8 жыл бұрын

rorylr​ i use R1 to shoot so it's way easier. L2 to jump and L1 to aim. I then shoot with R1 with my index finger. Using ripper and throwing tacticals takes time getting used to. 

@TheCrazy6gamer

8 жыл бұрын

I always thought you were supposed to use your middle finger to shoot until my friends say I can't use a controller right. even though they can't even aim.

ye definitely cheating unless everyone was supplied with a scuff then its completely unfair.

@NsLHD

8 жыл бұрын

Just bc your broke and think it's cheating bc you don't own one doesn't make it cheating cheating would be if I had god mode on fucking you in the ass online in a game over and over again and a scuf does is allow you to hit the buttons you normally would have to pick your fingers up to hit, it's an advantage but not cheating these people need to get the facts right

@pizzagateisreal

8 жыл бұрын

NsLHD i work 46 hours a week I'm far from broke, it is cheating its called pay to win as you can jump and aim at the same time something you cant do with a normal pad so you get your facts right.

@Shawshank1Gaming

8 жыл бұрын

You can play claw, allowing you to jump/aim at the same time with a normal controller. Next please!

@pizzagateisreal

8 жыл бұрын

Ruxio still not as good as a scuff or what would be the point of a scuff? Next please.

@Shawshank1Gaming

8 жыл бұрын

Lee marshall The best slayer in the entire game plays claw. Just because you can't doesn't mean other can't. Besides, do you even own a scuff? lol

I agree totally ace. I dont have a scuff controller and was feeling that the scuffers had a big advantage. But i started to experiment with the bump and jumper tactical and once i got used to the different setup (for me it took about a week) i found that i was jumping and shooting all over the place. My k/d went up, my skill improved and i can give the best of them a good challenge. So yeah i think people should experiment with the different button setups available within the game and find one that works for them.

So do you recommend the layouts like bumper jumper

@adj9160

8 жыл бұрын

Give bumper jumper and stick and move a go definitely. (bumper works best if you acc shoot with bumpers so jump with triggers)

Call of Duty will never go back to boots on the ground because the advantage of a scuf controller is nullified.

@justinv6132

8 жыл бұрын

Sliding will still be a thing.

@justinv6132

8 жыл бұрын

+Nova StrykerHD And jumshotting, and dropshotting.

@NT-fb6ow

8 жыл бұрын

Nova StrykerHD Yeah but people would just use different layouts, Scufs only got really big when the movement system became a huge part of the game

@justinv6132

8 жыл бұрын

ben-t Yes but playing claw is still a thing aswell.

@NT-fb6ow

8 жыл бұрын

Nova StrykerHD I'd say less than 1% of COD players, it's very rare.

No Scufs are completely fair. I've played using both... it doesn't impact my skill on the game what so ever, just a lot more ergonomic. I use Trigger Stops as well. They hardly give you that much of an advantage and before that I would just find the sweet spot on my trigger and and just barely move it between the button press down when using semi-auto guns. We're talking .01 ms saved time, which I know every little bit counts in CoD, but c'mon. The trigger stops aren't this Goldy amazing mod on a controller that makes it unfair. You can do the same using your base Xbox controller and just learn the sweet spot. I still use the same tactic with my Scuf. There is literally a work around for everything Scuf has, its just a nice luxury and nothing more.

What's your opinion on xim4 then?

Yeah I use stick and move with a kontrol freek on my right stick, helps sooo much but takes getting used to.