Are race cars really quicker than their hot hatch alternatives? | Fifth Gear Classic

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Vicki puts the RenaultSport Clio Turbo up against its race car alternative, the clio cup race car. Which is better? For access to exclusive Fifth Gear content and all FULL episodes, join our channel / @fifthgearuk
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  • @amineghostdog
    @amineghostdog3 жыл бұрын

    well you cant compre laptimes with the added weight of a passenger...

  • @altergreenhorn

    @altergreenhorn

    3 жыл бұрын

    And different tyres - a huge difference

  • @captmcneil

    @captmcneil

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@altergreenhorn Weell, the passenger is one second and only really countering the driver here. The road tires however are part of the deal. You could tweak lots of things, like throwing out the passenger seat - that's just not the idea.

  • @Dan23_7

    @Dan23_7

    3 жыл бұрын

    Plus a standing start

  • @karolyorban

    @karolyorban

    3 жыл бұрын

    she did get a rolling start too, on the timed lap

  • @karolyorban

    @karolyorban

    3 жыл бұрын

    can't edit my own reply :) it looks like i missed, that he did get a similar start as well :D

  • @DrCrunkMusic
    @DrCrunkMusic3 жыл бұрын

    Before I even watch yes of course they are 😂

  • @jofan1982
    @jofan19823 жыл бұрын

    To make this more accurate you'd have to 1)use same driver 2)warm the tyres on the regular car and 3)go without a passenger. Just sayin... ;)

  • @LewisRhymes

    @LewisRhymes

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah she also had a rollling start on the actual timed lap 😠

  • @kenriehl7852

    @kenriehl7852

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think we all know that... I’m going to go out on a limb and say, the producers decided ahead of time that Ms Victoria was going to win this one. Just a guess...

  • @altergreenhorn

    @altergreenhorn

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes and the same tyres

  • @iluvfionaleggate

    @iluvfionaleggate

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LewisRhymes So did the road car in fairness

  • @rexmedorum

    @rexmedorum

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@altergreenhorn No as that would make the road car no longer road legal.

  • @lord8139
    @lord81393 жыл бұрын

    The most uneven way to compare the two. Two different drivers 1 lap with a passenger 1 with a flying start 1 with a standing start WTF

  • @jasonboyle7203

    @jasonboyle7203

    3 жыл бұрын

    Aye it is but in the name of entertainment lol

  • @jofan1982

    @jofan1982

    3 жыл бұрын

    And cold tyres on the regular Clio as well..

  • @vytbbb7146

    @vytbbb7146

    3 жыл бұрын

    i believe they did a flyer with the stock car too. just filmed the burnout for the drama :)

  • @WhuDhat

    @WhuDhat

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vytbbb7146 you tell em Bob, don't doubt old top gear or ol'Tiff-æh. Those boys(+1) were always competitive and wouldn't rig any real test no matter how bad the odds, unless of course it was for a challenge then as with all TG's all bets are off every now and then haha

  • @akshaysankarshana2405

    @akshaysankarshana2405

    Ай бұрын

    I mean, it should be same driver and warmed up tires, only the driver sitting in both cars during the hot laps. I guess the flying start for the road car was just edited out, if it were from a standing start, it would've been an even bigger difference.

  • @RobinThomson277
    @RobinThomson2773 жыл бұрын

    Vicki's so great always

  • @jonnyxs892
    @jonnyxs8923 жыл бұрын

    Vicky you were ballast😂😂

  • @arifabdullah7142
    @arifabdullah71423 жыл бұрын

    Silly race! The road car has 2 people in it. That's at least 80kg heavier.

  • @vytbbb7146
    @vytbbb71463 жыл бұрын

    i wonder what "stock" clio would do with those racing tires, and no passenger.

  • @system450

    @system450

    3 жыл бұрын

    A lot better laptime for sure !

  • @AgtX999

    @AgtX999

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or interior.

  • @dominikrollenmiller2523

    @dominikrollenmiller2523

    3 жыл бұрын

    Stock clio is available with 220 hp and the 100ms shift times.... This race car is just a street legal where you put all Interieur out.... And guess what between the 200 hp version and the 220hp version are miles different..... EG nearly half the time needed to 200 etc

  • @elvanmilla830
    @elvanmilla8303 жыл бұрын

    That’s a brilliant video more like this comparisons 👍

  • @geraldgoodiii6993
    @geraldgoodiii69933 жыл бұрын

    Those straight cut gears ⚙️ 💜

  • @polarweis
    @polarweis3 жыл бұрын

    the clio rs in that color is stunning.

  • @atkins.8832
    @atkins.88323 жыл бұрын

    Should been just one driver in the road car. Either way the race car time is slow !

  • @LifeExplanatory

    @LifeExplanatory

    3 жыл бұрын

    I bet you’re a much better driver than Vicky 🤣

  • @atkins.8832

    @atkins.8832

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LifeExplanatory funnily enough yes as gone quicker round there in a Clio 200

  • @badusername4
    @badusername43 жыл бұрын

    Fun vid ! car throttles bmw estate was probably the best series to show each components difference to becoming a faster car.. quite surprising

  • @mr.carguy654
    @mr.carguy6543 жыл бұрын

    Vicky is 🌶🌶🌶

  • @elvanmilla830
    @elvanmilla8303 жыл бұрын

    More videos like this 👍 brilliant

  • @nonopus3125
    @nonopus31253 жыл бұрын

    Gotta love VBH! 😍

  • @rohanpatil6168
    @rohanpatil61683 жыл бұрын

    Vicky :D really like the idea of comparing those two cars too

  • @DashDrones
    @DashDrones3 жыл бұрын

    Rolling start, less weight with one driver, what's the point of comparing?

  • @farvatron

    @farvatron

    3 жыл бұрын

    *3 Vicky is clearly punching for two these days!

  • @TheQuestionTheAnswer
    @TheQuestionTheAnswer3 жыл бұрын

    I never got how you can do these sorts of comparisons with one of the cars on slicks....the amount of grip you get off a slick is actually terrifying

  • @Baturatus
    @Baturatus3 жыл бұрын

    Wait, is this a new video? Vicki Butler-Henderson looks great. Oh I want this Clio Cup Race butttttttttttt I live in Mordor).

  • @Feral6-h3g
    @Feral6-h3g3 жыл бұрын

    So to summarize some comments here. She started over the line while going flat out, he started from stand still. She was in the street car adding weight. The tyres should have been the same for the test. Should have been the same driver for both cars.

  • @paulsimonsson
    @paulsimonsson3 жыл бұрын

    Would have been properly interesting with the same tyres on both cars. Vicky is brilliant!

  • @jamesdm75
    @jamesdm753 жыл бұрын

    Extra passenger in road car and flying lap in race car, hmmm , well done Vicky

  • @anthonypetty9288
    @anthonypetty92883 жыл бұрын

    Cadwell Park looks like a fun place to race.

  • @davidwilliamson9162
    @davidwilliamson91623 жыл бұрын

    Go on Vicky lass !👍

  • @Phnergelde
    @Phnergelde3 жыл бұрын

    I love my RS 197. Such a wonderfully antisocial wee beasty.. Smiles per hour.

  • @bign3ck
    @bign3ck3 жыл бұрын

    I miss the 200 Cup manual Clio so much.

  • @drazenbudis1303

    @drazenbudis1303

    3 жыл бұрын

    Buy one before they skyrocket, and they surely will

  • @davespooney8472
    @davespooney84723 жыл бұрын

    One started from a stop?

  • @rafailspari1529
    @rafailspari15293 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait to race my Clio in nurburgring track ❤🚘

  • @squadmeta
    @squadmeta3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, a tyre comparison video.

  • @talal1987alami
    @talal1987alami3 жыл бұрын

    Didn't he start from a dig while she blasted past the start/finish line flying from the previous lap?

  • @roby054

    @roby054

    3 жыл бұрын

    yep

  • @rossthompson2699

    @rossthompson2699

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly.

  • @resnonverba137
    @resnonverba1373 жыл бұрын

    I do enjoy these videos, but the comparisons really need to be a little better done.

  • @PhantomMark
    @PhantomMark3 жыл бұрын

    1:49.7 , actually disappointed with that , I thought it would be quicker tbh, managed 1:47.5 around there in a big fat Holden V8, I really would have expected the Clio to dominate a car like that around Cadwell ? Phil wasn't exactly hanging around either !!

  • @DANNY-xk9fg
    @DANNY-xk9fg3 жыл бұрын

    Why didnt you use trophy? Both would of had same power

  • @bitkarek
    @bitkarek3 жыл бұрын

    he should do one lap in the race car too... i would like to see the drivers difference.

  • @baronhyatt6729
    @baronhyatt67293 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely love this episode cuz I'm Vicky wheel of Vicky Vicky Vicky Vicky and Vicki one

  • @maximahafm
    @maximahafm3 жыл бұрын

    The Road Clio is a R.S. 200EDC of frist generation, must be a Clio R.S. Trophy 220EDC of second generation (are very different cars, I had been one) against the Renault Clio Cup. If you want do this thing, do it well or not do it.

  • @leed2883
    @leed28833 жыл бұрын

    Road car standing start,race car flying lap?

  • @sl077766
    @sl0777663 жыл бұрын

    Er, ballast! :D

  • @rotorblade9508
    @rotorblade95083 жыл бұрын

    That was funny Anyway I expect the race car to be much quicker: more power and probably like 200kg less ? idk then the suspension, brakes and tires add more performance, like a some good seconds faster.

  • @OllieC100
    @OllieC1003 жыл бұрын

    Yes they are. Next!

  • @leedstown
    @leedstown3 жыл бұрын

    4 seconds is a lifetime in racing

  • @paulroberts3974
    @paulroberts39743 жыл бұрын

    So have both people in the non race car that makes it fair lol

  • @Neil-Aspinall
    @Neil-Aspinall3 жыл бұрын

    Why do so many people in the UK have that lisp?

  • @jaseleese7549

    @jaseleese7549

    3 жыл бұрын

    Stiff upper lip

  • @Neil-Aspinall

    @Neil-Aspinall

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jaseleese7549 Oh I see Sir, right you are!

  • @stevecowham1017
    @stevecowham10173 жыл бұрын

    1 warm up lap/slicks. An extra passenger..no contest.

  • @berndecke9488
    @berndecke94883 жыл бұрын

    Vicki did a great job at all..

  • @richboy900
    @richboy9003 жыл бұрын

    Considering a civic touring car is quicker than a McLaren supercar around a circuit, I'd say that's pretty accurate

  • @PhantomMark

    @PhantomMark

    3 жыл бұрын

    My E36 race car lapped around there in 1:40 flat pretty much, where my old VXR8 managed a respectable 1:47 with a lot more power tbh...... 1:45 is a decent enough lap around there in the Clio race car to be fair, I was a little surprised the road car wasn't a little quicker tho, I didn't feel my laps in the Holden were "uber" fast......its not really a power track either ?

  • @davecroden9793
    @davecroden97933 жыл бұрын

    That’ll be the fast rolling start you had Vicky; laddie had a standing start only

  • @rudi_ghuliani

    @rudi_ghuliani

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think this is staged this way is bc the race car can't get proper heat in their tires in one lap.

  • @finite934
    @finite9343 жыл бұрын

    Been laughing along with top gear all these years, but now they seem a bit old in the tooth and a lot un-PC, and I realise that the 5th gear team is really lovely, down to earth, and so technical in comparison. It's a shame that top gear always stole the limelight with their brashness.

  • @chriscringle9263
    @chriscringle92632 жыл бұрын

    I bet the Clio wasnt the only thing he wragged around that afternoon!

  • @jerrymyahzcat
    @jerrymyahzcat3 жыл бұрын

    Vicki had a running start though...

  • @garypCronshaw
    @garypCronshaw3 жыл бұрын

    Der brain!

  • @TheNonAlignmentMovement
    @TheNonAlignmentMovement3 жыл бұрын

    Need tiff

  • @owenmarron6651
    @owenmarron66513 жыл бұрын

    wtf the car used in video is my car that i wrote off last year

  • @tony66au
    @tony66au3 жыл бұрын

    I dont care who you are, VBH for the win every time lol

  • @WhuDhat
    @WhuDhat3 жыл бұрын

    We all knew the answer, but we still watched because we wanted to see the attempt, right?

  • @Chic-A-Dee
    @Chic-A-Dee3 жыл бұрын

    4:38 Fifth Gear.

  • @KadettLino
    @KadettLino3 жыл бұрын

    Should have switched wheels and tyres.

  • @PushToStart
    @PushToStart3 жыл бұрын

    Not really fair given that she had a flying lap where the dude started for stationary 🤣🤔 Never the less, do love a Liquid Yellow Baguette 🥖 🇫🇷

  • @TG-pd3ft
    @TG-pd3ft3 жыл бұрын

    carrying an extra 100kg of ballast just may have slowed down the road car a bit no?

  • @Beastnappy

    @Beastnappy

    3 жыл бұрын

    She won't weigh 100kg mate😉

  • @steviewonderzaful

    @steviewonderzaful

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Beastnappyhis right, the race car is lighter so it's about 100kg difference in weight.

  • @torquecars2338
    @torquecars23383 жыл бұрын

    Extra passenger and a rolling start, hardly comparable really

  • @Johnjakfay1969
    @Johnjakfay19693 жыл бұрын

    Also she was at full speed when she started and he had to go from a Dig.

  • @dylangough6806
    @dylangough68063 жыл бұрын

    100 percent should’ve been compared to the trophy

  • @pmeyer37
    @pmeyer373 жыл бұрын

    Not sure how that's fair, two up road car vs 1 up racer....

  • @EugVR6
    @EugVR63 жыл бұрын

    Extra passenger!....Come in 5th gear!

  • @carculturenation2166
    @carculturenation21663 жыл бұрын

    Most race cars have regulations and sometimes have roll cages and other things that bring weight back up after weight reduction. So in some cases the street version is faster if not just build it faster!! Lol

  • @christopherdaniel6142
    @christopherdaniel61423 жыл бұрын

    why this vid gave me such a dirty mind ...no idea why ,oh! the lil back an forth was hot to me for some reason . im sending this to hornhub is a video pitch

  • @ProTasiable
    @ProTasiable3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like it has a supercharger.

  • @bmstylee

    @bmstylee

    8 ай бұрын

    Probably straight cut gears in the transmission whining.

  • @ahnilatedahnilated7703
    @ahnilatedahnilated77033 жыл бұрын

    Passenger, flying start, you were bound to win.

  • @superbike1
    @superbike13 жыл бұрын

    More power,more grip and no passenger, if they had the same tyres and no passenger in the road car then the gap would have come right down to around 2 seconds

  • @dominikrollenmiller2523
    @dominikrollenmiller25233 жыл бұрын

    The question is how old is that test? Cause.... The 200 edc clio is shit. But there is a clio rs trophy 220edc with the same specs like the "race car" and its absolutely street legal. For comparison the trophy drives at around 8:30 around the nurburgring. The normal 200 edc is more then 30 seconds slower....

  • @ussvoyager8650
    @ussvoyager86503 жыл бұрын

    Vicki I totally love U... you R the Hottest Woman on the Entire Planet I totally loved watching U on Top Gear back in the 90s & U R even more Beautiful than Ever & U R the best driver in the whole world EVER & U have such an amazingly beautiful voice

  • @jamesdm75

    @jamesdm75

    3 жыл бұрын

    Stalker

  • @ussvoyager8650

    @ussvoyager8650

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesdm75 no I'm just saying that she's an amazing woman & a great driver I've watched top gear back in the 90s when she was on & fifth gear & she's on 2 of my Jeremy Clarkson dvds

  • @ussvoyager8650

    @ussvoyager8650

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesdm75 I am not like that I'm nearly 42 & I've never been in trouble ever I was not brought up that way I'm a really great person & I've never hurt anyone

  • @jamesdm75

    @jamesdm75

    3 жыл бұрын

    OK mate chillout , was saying more in jest than anything!

  • @ussvoyager8650

    @ussvoyager8650

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesdm75 oh ok did U watch Top Gear back in the 90s

  • @andrewbeard2235
    @andrewbeard22353 жыл бұрын

    just here for Vicki

  • @farvatron

    @farvatron

    3 жыл бұрын

    You like 'em big huh?

  • @andrewbeard2235

    @andrewbeard2235

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@farvatron yeah your mum was the original big mama though

  • @janludwikkotowski
    @janludwikkotowski3 жыл бұрын

    running lap vs standing start? only there you got like 2-3 sec advantage... what a bs test. the fact is race car is reinforced mostly because stock one wouldn't handle more than 2-3 laps with race pace. It'd overheat and gearbox must've been replaced every second or third race weekend...

  • @steveunderhill6570
    @steveunderhill65703 жыл бұрын

    1 person slicks and a flying lap, a moron may have bet against the track car , it would of been a lot closer with both laps from a standing start

  • @nicola5307
    @nicola53073 жыл бұрын

    What a joke!!!! I have been on at least 10 official renault track days, 1 lap in a clio RS race car as a passenger. Race cars are are on a different planet.

  • @averagepal572
    @averagepal5723 жыл бұрын

    So road car was a standing start and the race car a rolling start? This comparison was a great idea but executed poorly.

  • @mikep9945
    @mikep99453 жыл бұрын

    Vicky..... My dream wife

  • @MrBrenden830
    @MrBrenden8305 ай бұрын

    5 seconds I would give it to the street car. Heavier on street tyres with 2 people. The person has got to be worth 3-4 seconds alone. Don't know why they did that other than the street car was faster so the put in the passenger to slow it down.

  • @SA-zoom1
    @SA-zoom13 жыл бұрын

    Are supermodels more attractive than traffic wardens?

  • @TANKSINATRA289
    @TANKSINATRA2893 жыл бұрын

    Si ma dovevi prendere la Trophy da 220

  • @aaronhotchkins2854
    @aaronhotchkins28543 жыл бұрын

    Do you not need to wear a helmet at this track

  • @swissyodelbear
    @swissyodelbear3 жыл бұрын

    LOL

  • @AgtX999
    @AgtX9993 жыл бұрын

    Nothing to do with the huge difference in weight then?

  • @thecornishbiker9323
    @thecornishbiker93233 жыл бұрын

    80kg lighter due to no passenger

  • @deejarvisful
    @deejarvisful3 жыл бұрын

    Different drivers, different number of occupants. Hardly scientific was it? 🐒

  • @PhantomMark
    @PhantomMark3 жыл бұрын

    VBH, dunno what you are doing but you suddenly got smoking hot again....

  • @charlieburton9967
    @charlieburton99673 жыл бұрын

    So he had a road car. And A passenger. Hmm. Sorry but that sucks.

  • @cryptobond0079
    @cryptobond00793 жыл бұрын

    Just buy a Peugeot 308 GTi 300bhp standard 😂

  • @fenboy3779
    @fenboy37793 жыл бұрын

    Race car flying lap.Road car car standing start ,do they think were all idiot's.

  • @mateuszodrzywoek8658
    @mateuszodrzywoek86583 жыл бұрын

    fifth gear, for when BBC is blocked in your country

  • @mateuszodrzywoek8658

    @mateuszodrzywoek8658

    3 жыл бұрын

    dont get me wrong fifth gear is awesome

  • @gavinwyllie7855

    @gavinwyllie7855

    3 жыл бұрын

    Use a VPN.

  • @leehenry5764

    @leehenry5764

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm jealous that you're country blocks BBC.

  • @xWILZTAx

    @xWILZTAx

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fifth gear when you refuse to pay you're tv licensing as to not fund a paedophile organisation

  • @farvatron

    @farvatron

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@xWILZTAx BINGO!

  • @getphuked2
    @getphuked23 жыл бұрын

    I think ANY.... of the MAZDASPEEDS would beat ether ones of those.

  • @akshaysankarshana2405
    @akshaysankarshana2405Ай бұрын

    That's not how you do a fair comparison, FG. Same driver, only one person in the car, warm up both tires before the timed laps. The fact that you guys are re-uploading old content clearly shows that the new Fifth Gear, especially after Tiff Needell left, was absolute trash.

  • @mahadzirabdkarim4800
    @mahadzirabdkarim48003 жыл бұрын

    ..+.3√π\45¶∆ = that lady Weight 88kg

  • @davidkelsey2864
    @davidkelsey28643 жыл бұрын

    Vicki, you're too much of a distraction, get outta the car!!!

  • @ElliotMelloy
    @ElliotMelloy3 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't watch this to the end, she's insufferable. But it's obvious which one will win. The race car has more power and better tyres. In the road car she was a passenger probably adding 80kg, and it still has all seats which could add another 70kg. That's probably 10% of the car's weight. Plus she got a rolling start and he didn't. When they make trash videos like this, you just know they swapped drivers and ran different laps until they got the time they were looking for - it's probably a paid advertising trick.

  • @TheBaldMiddleAgedMetalHead
    @TheBaldMiddleAgedMetalHead3 жыл бұрын

    4.5 seconds isn't competitive against anything around that track, you can't compare the two not even close.

  • @ciaranmccormack4434
    @ciaranmccormack44343 жыл бұрын

    Any masks?

  • @ignacioentrocasso8171
    @ignacioentrocasso81713 жыл бұрын

    Rubbish... the race car did not start por still. Dissapointing

  • @farvatron
    @farvatron3 жыл бұрын

    Jesus Christ Vicky lay off the pies love!

  • @farvatron

    @farvatron

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Ross Bourne Simp!

  • @edgimson5706

    @edgimson5706

    3 жыл бұрын

    Women have curves like Vicky. Girls have bones. Obvious which you prefer.

  • @farvatron

    @farvatron

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@edgimson5706 HAHA bit of a fat kent ourselves are we?! pmsl!

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