Are nurses right to go on strike? | Jeremy Vine On 5

“What’s happened for the best part of a decade is the exploitation of their good will”
Marina Purkiss fully supports a nurses strike, should it happen.
She thinks it’s about time their pay reflected the sacrifices they make.
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  • @martinsmith8487
    @martinsmith8487 Жыл бұрын

    Becoming an MP is allegedly vocational, and apparently that’s the only reason somebody becomes a nurse/doctor. So test the theory, make an MP’s wage equivocal to theirs. I know which queue people willing to become an MP would be in then. The very very very short one 😡

  • @martinsmith8487
    @martinsmith8487 Жыл бұрын

    Everyone of these pointless people sat there affecting nothing getting paid more than nurses 😡

  • @graceharrington4560
    @graceharrington4560 Жыл бұрын

    This is very close to my heart and I can see first hand how low pay is having a grave impact on NHS staff retention. The NHS lost a great nurse, my mum due to abysmal pay and terrible working conditions. My mum was a nurse for 13 years up until very recently. She worked in various areas of the NHS from neonatal intensive care to community nursing. She worked all throughout the pandemic looking after patients with covid and other respiratory illnesses, which she did with insufficient and unsafe PPE at a time when my grandma, her mum, was fighting with breast cancer. Nursing was her second degree (masters level) and she went though significant financial hardship (while supporting me) to get her nursing qualification in the place. Prior to the pandemic, my mum was already having to be off work sick with work related stress, and the low pay was a cause of my mums underlying depression and general lack of hope for the future. After the pandemic, she decided enough was enough and that she could not go on in such a low paid, big stress job where her mental health was suffering. She decided to leave the profession early this year and has become self employed as a bespoke relationship coach for people with disabilities. She would have stayed had the pay been better than it is, and if there were more staff to do the job. This is a problem made by the tories and I will never forgive how them for how they have treated our nurses and the profession with such disregard. Solidarity with the nurses and may they be successful! They should have all our support!

  • @imnotconvinced4833

    @imnotconvinced4833

    Жыл бұрын

    Utter tripe! Labour are as much to blame for everything happening right now! No pressure from them at all, pro open borders, pro immigrant, pro foreign workers, pro EU regulation. No fiscal plan or clue whatsoever. Globalist puppets the lot. Wake up Grace.

  • @missblackman5656
    @missblackman5656 Жыл бұрын

    During the pandemic they did so much for the NHS, still wouldn't increase pay. Ive worked for the NHS myself and use to work alongside agency workers who would be paid double and a lot of the times do less than you because they didn't know the ward or have a good report with the patients. It must be soul destroying having a passion to help people and want to do good but getting crap pay. I think this will be a ripple effect . Everything has gone up but wages stay down . we face the same issues all the time. The rich get rich the working class getting poorer!

  • @thordagger4all782
    @thordagger4all782 Жыл бұрын

    taken from the times 'An analysis found that the real-terms salary of an experienced nurse has fallen by 20 per cent in a decade, causing an exodus of staff who are struggling with the rising cost of living.' In comparison to 10 years ago they are basically working for 1 day free a week and have less colleagues around them to support. This is ridiculous. I know one ward that is struggling to recruit nurses and they are down by 10. That's 370 hours of nursing staff per week. They are right to strike and no change will only make things worse for their patients. People need to see the bigger picture and look long term rather than saying they shouldn't strike because of waiting lists. This crisis has been managed to be this way and should never have happened in the first place. Money magically appears when it suits.

  • @tyson4044
    @tyson4044 Жыл бұрын

    People be like "nurses can't go on strike their to important let's just pay them an average salary...."

  • @jayparmar2322

    @jayparmar2322

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly

  • @muffinnman
    @muffinnman Жыл бұрын

    I use the NHS regularly because of my disability. The nurses should strike. The NHS is being slowly ground down and nurses are quitting anyway. People are increasingly having to use private healthcare. This is what the government wants, chipping away at the NHS and incrementally privatising healthcare. By striking it will draw attention to this rather than allowing the NHS to slowly decline.

  • @midjehunt7424

    @midjehunt7424

    Жыл бұрын

    Yikes, I sort of see how that works. We get rid of the free healthcare and the illegals will not want to enter the UK. Problem is, Lineker may object and we all know that the gob on a millionaire that lives nowhere near the problem, or has no financial associated problems will only complain they struggle to retain a maid, butler , gardener.. I think they used to call them slaves back in the day. Sure, allow 100 huts on free on lineker land, and she can feed them, and pay wages , education, taxes, insurance, ..... even a sky sports subscription if they are that sad to listen to drivel on football by has beens..

  • @martinsmith8487
    @martinsmith8487 Жыл бұрын

    Everything’s heavy with this greedy get 😡 I’ll wager he has private healthcare

  • @peteyoxonmusic
    @peteyoxonmusic Жыл бұрын

    Well said that nurse!

  • @elche7367
    @elche73679 ай бұрын

    The government has a DUTY of CARE for the people, not for private businesses and shareholders. This gentleman might need those nurses one day.

  • @gugulethuncube6421
    @gugulethuncube6421 Жыл бұрын

    Nurses cannot perform their duty of care to the best of their abilities when they can’t even feed themselves. They’re literally using food banks!!!!!

  • @meetthegospelpearls4328

    @meetthegospelpearls4328

    Жыл бұрын

    This is exactly what I am saying

  • @10aDowningStreet

    @10aDowningStreet

    Жыл бұрын

    If you need a food bank on 30k, 35k, 40,k, 50k your salary isn't the problem, you're mismanaging your money, further raises will be squandered in the same way. 17% will not go down well, they deserve something in line with inflation but 17 looks greedy.

  • @gugulethuncube6421

    @gugulethuncube6421

    Жыл бұрын

    Don’t be ridiculous how are nurses on £14/15 per hour making 50k?! Did you even do Maths in school?

  • @jackcogi9586
    @jackcogi9586 Жыл бұрын

    maybe if the system wasn't asking men if they're pregnant and buying hormone blockers for kids they may be able to give em a pay rise and might actually sort the system cause its in ruins

  • @lucyelkins7731

    @lucyelkins7731

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah and boob jobs , well said!

  • @jackcogi9586

    @jackcogi9586

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lucyelkins7731 if your talking about cutting em off kids yeah because i dont think you can get a brand new set of double Ds on the NHS

  • @lucyelkins7731
    @lucyelkins7731 Жыл бұрын

    If it wasn't for the NHS and the amazing care from the nurses I would be dead now my 13 year old daughter would have no mother , I am 100 % behind them going on strike they deserve so much better and not just nurses carer's as well I think all carers should go on strike as well they are treated really badly the amount of work they have to do is unbelievable! For very little money and it's such an important job we are talking about the people that look after our mums , dad's and grandparents! And if we let this carry on it going to be us one day lying there suffering in pain with under paid nurses

  • @vikingfrog7204

    @vikingfrog7204

    Жыл бұрын

    What if you need to be treated and there's not enough staff this time?

  • @user-ey6rz3fv5y
    @user-ey6rz3fv5y Жыл бұрын

    NHS staff deserve a big pay rise

  • @oysteroid4030
    @oysteroid4030 Жыл бұрын

    The nurses has done what has to be done for centuries. Now they work extra hours and even through the Pandemic just to show the care for the patients. No appreciation is shown to the Nurses and refused to adjust their pay .

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    They ain't their to argue, there their to come to conclusions.

  • @syriacchristianity9007
    @syriacchristianity900710 ай бұрын

    The Scottish government gave nurses 17.5% increase in wages, they could afford this quite easily by charging big international companies like Starbucks, Amazon and Google the proper rate of taxation.

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    And no, I think it's going to be one of the funniest season.

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    I've never seen one person do every challenge.

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    The child learn to process, because they learn they can calm then selfs down later or when ever.

  • @timothykings6243
    @timothykings6243 Жыл бұрын

    Underpaid??? What the nurses need to realise is that at the same time they are being paid a wage they are also getting a large pension secured for them when they retire.The tax payers are paying in essence two wages for every civil service provider. Just like the police/firemen/ambulance staff/ soldiers ect ect ect the list could go on.. The most important thing at this point in time is to reduce the cost of energy and fuel which is increasing the cost of food production /storage/ distribution /and retail the gov need to be clear in there decision about increasing wages to balance the inflation, Bring down fuel prices and energy cost and retail and industrys can produce cost effective products

  • @alexdavies7394
    @alexdavies7394 Жыл бұрын

    These strikes are never going to end! The government should be more willing to hold discussions with the unions.

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    As for his career it ain't over, it just on hold, and may be over, it really does depend on how he does

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    If he goes and just nails every challenge, what if the world watches as he strokes everybody's standing ovation what they going to think of him then, and you never know him may.

  • @paulnicholls4791
    @paulnicholls4791 Жыл бұрын

    The nurses have done more work in stressful situations, the fact you are over paid talking about down grading them, why don't you work 8n hospital, its because you could not

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    I waiting for Pippa to do it next year, oh yer.

  • @JR-vg1kr
    @JR-vg1kr Жыл бұрын

    Nice time to strike.it's winter and it is the hardest time of the year in hospitals, people will die sadly because of this action. And the government dosent fund pay rises , we the tax payer does and many earn well below the £26000 average a student nurse earns and well below the nurse wage of between £33000 to £35000. The poor worker gets poorer and the public sector workers gets richer.

  • @randomcomputer7248

    @randomcomputer7248

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, they are not at the bottom of the pile, no where near.

  • @MrDunkycraig
    @MrDunkycraig Жыл бұрын

    I had an op Friday and there was a lot of nurses in the day treatment ward all lovely and cared for me excellently. Not one needed a degree to do that though. It was common sense and asking basic questions. There are certain nurses who do need higher training and thats good if they ease the pressure from doctors. In fact a super nurse as i call them did more for me in one day than 24 years of seeing consultants and gps, and people like her deserve a rise. I also spent ten years in nhs finance and saw how well nurses were paid compared to others and that may have changed but no more than the rest.

  • @somebawldy3789
    @somebawldy3789 Жыл бұрын

    You get doctors on the show when they should be seeing patients !!! Why has nobody mentioned this

  • @richarddavies4322
    @richarddavies4322 Жыл бұрын

    Yes they should be paid appropriately (including the lack of rises over the past decade). Should they strike......of course if all other options are exhausted. Why is this a question, please stop comparing other them to other underpaid workers...2 wrongs don't make a right......good grief it's so simple. Does the country have the money?...... well surely thats the inept governments.

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    Tell me how do you play the devil's advocate, when I'm the devil.

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    Oh my god he's a ledge oviously why she fell for him.

  • @simoncelt5590
    @simoncelt5590 Жыл бұрын

    0:50 “ nurse’s pay rise request is unreasonable “ - so factoring in for ten years of inflation is unfair - got it Fricking gammons

  • @randomcomputer7248

    @randomcomputer7248

    Жыл бұрын

    They will not get 17% and everyone has been in the same boat. Nurses are given too much praise, there many that work harder and in worse condition and on lower pay.

  • @simoncelt5590

    @simoncelt5590

    Жыл бұрын

    @@randomcomputer7248 you’re right frick the nurses and he doctors - let’s go back to privatised medicine like we had before ww2

  • @thereeceforbes

    @thereeceforbes

    Жыл бұрын

    @@randomcomputer7248 like saving a life you do know their will be the last one looking at you on your desthbed

  • @shanemul3837
    @shanemul3837 Жыл бұрын

    This video deserves more that 616 views...

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    Snacking on the quick step diet allowed.

  • @martinallen9067
    @martinallen9067 Жыл бұрын

    Should nurses go on strike? Yes!

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    No I don't want the nurse to strike it to dangerous, people will die and get hurt, so why not were best, get a vest bright colour, and wear then to work till they give in have them say "sorry, I'm underplayed" in bright purple on green maybe. Keep them on till they give. At least £40,000. Ok.

  • @somebawldy3789
    @somebawldy3789 Жыл бұрын

    Nurses are on strike because all the doctors in this country seem to be on your show and not in the GP surgery

  • @lynnespeed6328
    @lynnespeed6328 Жыл бұрын

    Get the tories out now

  • @jeanwilson5029
    @jeanwilson5029 Жыл бұрын

    Whenever I've been to hospital I'm always amazed by how many nurses are stood around reception chatting. I think we need more doctors.

  • @KM-mv3qr

    @KM-mv3qr

    Жыл бұрын

    That's because you don't have a clue as to how a department works. If you're so clever, go to nursing school , qualify as a nurse and show us how it's done.

  • @Richard482

    @Richard482

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. More doctors and surgeons. If you're waiting for a hip replacement, how does having more nurses help?

  • @loppsy3891
    @loppsy3891 Жыл бұрын

    Nurses should not be striking. What a disgrace. What an appalling decision. Can’t make ends meet my arse. Going to food banks. Don’t be so ridiculous. I’m on hell of a less wage than that and I don’t visit a food bank. You chose to be a nurse. So be a nurse and stop wining. Got us through covid. What the hell. We were turned away at A&E. We lost our drs. Nurses had time to dance and make videos. I am utterly disgusted with nurses. Try living on a carers wage.

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    You other a salution to the child if you clam down and I got a moment brownie for you, something like that, the child will probably shut up and do what you want, and if the frow a tantrum when you got out you just tell them I ain't got out at the moment, the moment part important, means later,

  • @martinallen9067
    @martinallen9067 Жыл бұрын

    Solidarity to striking nurses!!

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    I'd starve I wouldnt eat.

  • @horizo5979
    @horizo5979 Жыл бұрын

    Penny farthing

  • @BossySwan
    @BossySwan Жыл бұрын

    Strikey McNurseface

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    What is it, I have not read the Bible, I don't need to, but theirs a line we are all born equal, isn't their, and we are what we are when born, we can just be more.

  • @cloudededen5819

    @cloudededen5819

    Жыл бұрын

    i just read all your comments on this video, you definitely need the NHS, like right now...seek help.

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    You bribe your child to behave.

  • @yddraigoch
    @yddraigoch Жыл бұрын

    Wrth gwrs !

  • @melvinvarghesemathews6215
    @melvinvarghesemathews6215 Жыл бұрын

    Give more opportunity to Indian nurses. In India they are working at a rate of 100 Pound per month for 25 days work. But at the same time UK is giving 2000 pounds for 13 days work per month. UK can overcome NHS strike through this wise movement.

  • @randomcomputer7248

    @randomcomputer7248

    Жыл бұрын

    It will be relative. 2000 is not much if you are in London

  • @snowyowel7961
    @snowyowel7961 Жыл бұрын

    I don't know about nurses this woman on the panel has got one hell of a gob on her she must be labor supporter The vine program is so bias against the English and the tories it is a Labour remainer program. Just my opinion of course 😂

  • @lindacurrie8817

    @lindacurrie8817

    9 ай бұрын

    No the difference is Marina provided facts.

  • @Northern_Rockhopper
    @Northern_Rockhopper Жыл бұрын

    Nurses should be ashamed of themselves… I personally know 6 nurses. They all own their own home, drive brand new cars, have been abroad on holiday at least once a year, and post expensive cocktails to their instagram stories most weekends. But they’re not prepared to give that lifestyle up when things start to become more expensive. Let’s not forget all the perks and discounts they already get compared to other workers! Disgusting.

  • @10aDowningStreet

    @10aDowningStreet

    Жыл бұрын

    Most are on over 30k, many on £40k+ even 50k. I manage on far less. I go without new cars and holidays. You're right, the nurses I know many have luxury vehicles that cost 600-1000 a month, holiday regularly, enjoy the finer things .. If they need food banks it's because they're either being greedy and scamming cheap food or they're not managing their money well... Raising wages 17% will not fix either issue. Their union are just trying to justify their existence by jumping on the bandwagon. I'm all for people in low pay fighting for rises in line with inflation, but we'll off people asking for a greedy 17% has no support from me and I suspect many others.

  • @Northern_Rockhopper

    @Northern_Rockhopper

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NMiller80666 I am not a liar at all. I’ve better things to do with my time than make lies about nurses Thankyou. You don’t even know who I am and you’ve resorted to calling me a liar because you don’t like the truth.

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    Why the world cup happening were it is, it the country need to grow, to expand, to learn from other culture's, giving Qatar, the world cup mean football stadium, football stadium's means match other and over again tourism, influx of our sider, influx of minds.

  • @queenirmamay
    @queenirmamay Жыл бұрын

    Yes go on strike 32k before tax national insurance

  • @thereeceforbes

    @thereeceforbes

    Жыл бұрын

    They get 24k -29k

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    Oh really, really, your going to go with out buying clothes with out pockets, really, that dress is prity.

  • @markpape6565
    @markpape6565 Жыл бұрын

    Actually lissen to the word's it's better the devil you know.

  • @jayparmar2322
    @jayparmar2322 Жыл бұрын

    They have been offered a decent pay rise there taking the vulnerable state of economy for granted. The majority is suffering not just nhs staff

  • @jayparmar2322
    @jayparmar2322 Жыл бұрын

    It’s pretty bad No they should not strike and there should be laws to prevent nhs staff striking because they have a duty to the public. They are putting lives at risk The police are not allowed to strike by law

  • @libertasdemocratiam887
    @libertasdemocratiam887 Жыл бұрын

    First do no harm means nothing these days. Sid those of us who the NHS left and will do so again during thsor stirkes. People who are "elective" who need joint replacements, who were left during covid. They don't take in extra hours for free either love! They get overtime!!! I don't care if i get a nurse who is burnt out at this point i just want fixing!!!!!!!! Then i gmcan get on with my life. Don't tell me thes people care about the patients they didn't care aduring covid and they don't know. Theyrthe pathetic.

  • @elainemansell2861
    @elainemansell2861 Жыл бұрын

    I support all the hard work nurses do every day but isn't it funny that the NHS can find thousands of pounds to pay for new woke diversity jobs and high paid hierarchy mangers. Get rid of a few of them to pay for nurses pay rises..

  • @c.9900

    @c.9900

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm the deputy head of HR for a community trust in the south of England. There are a few diversity positions in the NHS but not as many as you're led to believe. Most of the time these are sustained by internal staff networks, usually led by a champion - essentially a volunteer position. There are many, many management positions which could be streamlined, yes.

  • @jongreen6422
    @jongreen6422 Жыл бұрын

    They should not be striking and to be fair 30 grand a year isn't bad money when you consider health care workers are payed less in dom auxiliary care they had a pay rise in COVID and are offered 4.7 percent

  • @midjehunt7424
    @midjehunt7424 Жыл бұрын

    All are free to strike imo. Hiding behind a union is not required, anyone worth a wage can swap jobs at will..... . I am fully behind the nurses (not the doctors or those that direct or misdirect NHS funds) they should do it outside the comunist party though for a simple reason that anyone worth a wage can negotiate it better than a "one size fits all and pay me a commission union deal" If anyone knows more about wastage in the NHS I guess it is those that see it day to day, Your union does not see it I think, any government does not seem to see it.

  • @randomcomputer7248
    @randomcomputer7248 Жыл бұрын

    No ! All these strikes will just make the situation worse and cause more inflation. Happens every time.

  • @10aDowningStreet
    @10aDowningStreet Жыл бұрын

    Most are on over 30k, many on 40k, some up past the £50000s. If a few individuals are struggling and need to use food banks they should be offered help managing their money. I support many striking workers, I have family in nursing, I'm even involved in strike action myself, but asking for 17% rise and crying poverty on that money is just not right. Theyre reasonably paid objectively speaking, and whilst they should get something near inflation, the vast majority could live comfortably in that if sensible even after inflation... 17% comes off greedy and out of touch, unison are an inept union, they've not considered the optics, and I suspect by balloti they're jumping on the bandwagon if people with genuine struggles to justify their own existence.

  • @randomcomputer7248

    @randomcomputer7248

    Жыл бұрын

    My ex is a nurse on £50k and £15k a year in a pension. They will get 2 pensions State and NHS. This is a huge advantage over most people in the private sector. 17% is insane, but I would think they would settle for 10%.

  • @macslife9500
    @macslife9500 Жыл бұрын

    Here's An article for all the NHS staff to consider putting in to negotiations when you go on strike. Although your wages are very important you can achieve much more than that. The country can't function without you! Stand up for your patients to. Because We need to end the corrupt elites corporate manopaly over health care that is causing so much unessacery suffering and killing millions all over the world. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4140370/

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