Hey, just as constructive feedback, those HP batteries from Ryobi are made to take advantage of the extra contacts on some hp tools

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Great feedback! Thank you

@slylockfox85

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that Ryobi chainsaw isn't an "HP" chainsaw. I don't think it takes advantage of the better batteries. With Rigid, all the Octane stuff was discontinued and I think the "Max Output" batteries should work with all the newer brushless tools.

@kentuckybeardsman

Жыл бұрын

Yes and also along with all the other batteries certain tools take advantage of the high output just as Milwaukee for example if he would have tested it with an impact driver the high output would have blew away the regular batteries but no channels perfect

@th3R0b0t

Жыл бұрын

@@slylockfox85 Yea, which is messed up, because Torque Test confirmed the circuits worked very well in the Octane tools... But maybe TTI was trying to get away from "fuel" and "octane" naming scheme. It makes me wonder if the Max Output stuff is the same as Octane.

@MeAmMelonLord

Жыл бұрын

Yea, looks like the chainsaw used is a non-HP one.

31K views in first hour.... goes to show how many people trust in you and enjoy your product reviews. We appreciate you!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

@FatHead1979

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, I'm in the UK to often a fair few of the tools featured aren't available over here. But I still find myself interested and watching this channel! (Joking aside, I think this says it all about the quality of this channel). Keep up the good work!

@teamdada2194

Жыл бұрын

In a world full of nothing but lies. There will be more people coming out like this. This guy is just the original.

@FatHead1979

Жыл бұрын

@@teamdada2194 Indeed, these days it never seems to be very long before someone decides to copy i.e. rip off, someone else's USP.

@OmarGarcia-bi7jq

Жыл бұрын

Great video 😎

You've probably been suggested this before, but a good cheap yet useful video idea would be to test waterproofing sprays. I need some and feel blind when I don't have a Project Farm video to guide me! Best waterproofing spray, whether for boots or tarps or just overall any fabric would be great!

@tree_carcass_mangler

Жыл бұрын

Seconded!

@jeridfenderson

Жыл бұрын

Thirded! That’s actually a great suggestion!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion.

@gragreiser1501

Жыл бұрын

I was just about to comment about this when I saw your comment! Some specific brands for me would be Revivex, Nikwax, Kiwi, Scotch and Grangers. It would also be nice to see the spray on ones compared to wash in DWR for comparison. Hopefully we'll see a video on this in the future.

@spaghettimonter13

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm anothe good relatively cheap one could be antifog spray/wipes for safety glasses

Yet another excellent product testing video PF! It always amazes me at how much time & effort you put into making these videos. Thanks & keep up the great work! 👍👍

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

I would love to see you do coolers! Maybe include tests about shade vs no shade, drain the water vs don't, frozen water bottles vs ice. Ice packs vs regular ice. And, of course, different brands. There are lots of good American made options. Thanks!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Great suggestion!

@mrbillpurcell6203

Жыл бұрын

I buy RTIC an blue cooler ice chestsvroto mould and best value free shipping an beats that expensive one from ace hardware I think it's darn can't remember name , at 66 yrs old , it's not igloo but. ohh yes Yeti, the soft side insulated RTIC travel cooler doesn't preform well at all

@mariochavez3212

Жыл бұрын

Best comment I have seen

@stevek3786

Жыл бұрын

Please include Pelican if you do this.

@shift_click_vroom9562

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm Be sure to include KONG coolers. Made in USA and under rated.

This was a very valuable comparison. Especially the Milwaukee vs the Knock-off batteries, since most of my tools are Milwaukee. Thanks PF! You're the best!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@zanderday4466

Жыл бұрын

I bought the same exact knock offs and was trying to compare over here with much simpler tests and it was vague - seemed like the 8amp knock offs were equal to the 6 amp M's (at 1/2 the price) . . . project farm is the best

@Inquisitor6321

Жыл бұрын

@@zanderday4466 I never bought the knock-offs but I have a friend who did. He said their performance seem to equal to the lower rated Milwaukee. The 6.0 knock-offs were about = to a 3.0 Milwaukee.

@UraTrowelie

Жыл бұрын

@Inquiring Mind for the price, i guess they could come In handy for very light duty tasks.

@aussie2uGA

Жыл бұрын

Milwaukee is now using the awesome Tesla cells (2170's). That is worth far more than any no name knock off.

Thanks for another great video PF. I can't tell you how gratifying it is to see someone put thought into applying ways to eliminate variables and potential bias from testing. Keep up the good work!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Very interesting to see the differences in power and power draw in different temp settings as well. I love your videos, at this point in time you have tested so many things that every time I am looking for reviews for something from DIY to pro tool needs, you have a video for it and I will not chose a product without your testing and input. A big thank you for what you do!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

I really appreciate how concise you keep the presentations and the charts/graphs at the end of each testing group. It makes your channel one of the top ones I use when examining any product you have covered. Yours is so much better than those other channels where the person is in love with just hearing themselves talk without anything worthwhile. Keep up the excellent work.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@lovetrump1088

Жыл бұрын

Agreed...too many KZreadrs are Narcissists who only wanna hear their own voice....and it can take you 4/5 minutes to get to the Content and by that time, they have lost me. PF gets it all right!

@1212goose

Жыл бұрын

Same I switched to bulk buy Amazon brand batteries after watching his battery one.

@unclemikeb

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I have actually shut off videos as soon as it is obvious the guy is gonna blab and blab away worse than any woman I ever heard of.

Ryobi HP batteries have 2 additional contacts at the base of the stem which take advantage of certain types of Ryobi tools, mostly Ryobi HP brushless branded tools.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

Thank you so much for these tests. I like that you put a lot of thought into the tests and go through an explanation. Way more than just giving a statistic.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

Great video as always. One advantage of the High Output Milwaukee is weight reduction. Fewer cells makes for a smaller and lighter package. Great for lower torque/less current hungry tools like 1/4” impact drivers.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@codygooch510

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that small high output battery is by far my favorite. It’s usually the one I keep fully charged and on my impact ready to go.

I think others have mentioned it already, but the Milwaukee XC or High Output batteries only make a difference in the tools that can leverage them, they are usually the "Fuel" branded ones.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

@Fpsnut

Жыл бұрын

High output batteries or 21700 cells offer more amp discharge due to larger cells. These batteries with higher amp current are ideal for power tools that regular 18650 cells just can't fully satisfy. Things like chain saws, circular saws, impact wrenches, high powered drills. They will not make any difference in tools where the tool has already peaked in its possible power output with lower amp current batteries. Things like Vacuums, lights, and other light duty tools. Ryobi high output battery ran 18650 cells so my guess is it's some kind of scam on their part, although they do have additional leads so maybe it helps a tiny bit in tools that can take advantage of those, I don't know, most of my stuff is Milwaukee and DeWalt. But with Ridgid saw we clearly saw it made a decent difference. Also, in my Milwaukee fuel table saw and 10" miter saw, I can easily tell difference in power when I put in a regular battery. Current draw is so huge on those tools that if you try to use them extensively with regular battery, a battery protection will kick in and cut power to save battery. I'm not electric so it's just theory, but I think it's due to current draw exceeding what battery can provide and it starts to overheat with a lot of use.

@nitoloma6554

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but it was a fuel leaf blower sooooo...

@sonar610

Жыл бұрын

@@Fpsnut Many 18650 cells have different capacities and discharge rates. Milwaukee M12 high output batteries use 18650s as well.

@TheBostonstapler

Жыл бұрын

Not for fuel, more for high amp draw power tools. Angle drill, concrete saw, cordless super sawzall.

Hey project farm! I love the critical data analysis you do on all your videos, and would love to see you review air purifiers in the future! Thanks again for all the effort you put into your vids.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

@pardeepsingh6578

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm would also love to see an air purifier video, specifically the Govee air purifiers since i have one. i don’t know if it’s doing anything 😂

@tomharrington1393

Жыл бұрын

👍👍

@joulden3

Жыл бұрын

Yesss I was going to ask this question as well!

@jakeapplegate8943

Жыл бұрын

Yeah test the IQ Air Swiss made purifier

A Project Farm video a week is a treat that never disappoints!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

The quality of your videos and the time that you take to present it are awesome. Thank you for your time and your devotion

You sir will forever be a KZread genius! I love all the handy stuff you come up with for testing! I bet you’d be fun to sit around and brainstorm with. Keep the kick ass videos coming!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

@theSkavenger84

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm anytime sir! Anytime I’m about to make a purchase i come right to your page and make sure to check and see if you did a video about it first! Your videos have helped me purchase several things!

@jonny555ive

Жыл бұрын

@@theSkavenger84 You bet your ass I do exactly the same thing. I don't make any Big Tool purchase without referring back to Todd and project Farm. He has saved me hundreds and hundreds of dollars on not buying sh!tty tools.

@theSkavenger84

Жыл бұрын

@@jonny555ive 💯 same here! Always consult with a profession before making a big purchase!!

Another great video. One thing I've found with the High Output Batteries, how well they perform can be based on what tool they're put in. If I have to drive a lot of long ledger locks, you can bet I'm putting a High Output Battery in my Milwaukee impact. A standard 5.0 might get it 95% of the way into the wood, but when you need a flush-set surface, the 6.0 High Output is able to put down the last inch reliably. Where as if I'm using my blower, the only real benefit I might see, is a slightly longer run time. All in all, it is really nice to have them when you need them, hot summers in particular are a pain when it comes to long periods of drilling. To me it seems like the HOBs keep the drill from burning up under heavy load in hot conditions.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

@alexdrockhound9497

Жыл бұрын

Motors can only draw so many amps, a battery that can supply more amps than the motor can use means the motor will not perform any better. This is why its very tool specific. Also many high discharge rate high amp batteries (im talking single cells from the manufacturers) give up capacity to be able to discharge faster (though this is being improved quickly which is nice) So yeah, unless you have the right tool, the only benefit will be how it performs in the cold.

@WontSeeReplies

Жыл бұрын

You may want to look into a FLEX impact.

@map117

Жыл бұрын

I can only speak for the Ryobi ones, not for the rest, but on the Ryobi tools, you do have additional terminals on the battery socket that either communicates or consumes the additional power from the HD batteries. That's why also the HD batteries should have this additional contact pad on them. Not sure if either of the tools used here are using it

I did not expect those results. Interesting. Thanks!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

Thank you for doing this test!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

From experience with the HO Milwaukee and the HP Ryobi, they last a little longer but that’s not the reason to buy. In the correct tools they have a fair bit more power (no difference in blower or chainsaw). My tests were with the Ryobi brushless 7 1/4” circular saw and the Milwaukee Fuel 6 1/2” circular saw. The rpm increase and power bump are noticeable in both applications with the HP and HO batteries. My M18 fuel hammer drill also gets more rpm for longer on a 8ah HO than a 5ah XC-same with the fuel 4 1/2” angle grinder. Love your videos!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Motorcycling season will soon be upon us. Could you and Cousin Eddy test some helmets, full-face and open-face, with and without communication capabilities, drop test, abrasion resistance, impact resistance (like getting hit with a small stone), and all the goodies you can dream up? That would be awesome. We love all you do, even if we have no need for the product. Thanks Todd.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video idea!

@kesaranpasaran2630

Жыл бұрын

I don't even know that motorcycling has season. We ride all the time from blazing summer sun to highest flood in monsoon. But i will definitely watch this for PA. Same helmet, same series, same brand, different type (full/half) and test in Project Farm's style

@TimeToBeKind

Жыл бұрын

@@kesaranpasaran2630 … that’s because we are in Arizona where we have 365.25 days a year of outdoor activities. If 117 degrees is too hot, go to the next county and enjoy the 30 degrees cooler weather in as little as 2 hour ride.

@Colorado_Native

Жыл бұрын

@@kesaranpasaran2630 I have a home in Bellefonte, PA right in the middle of PA. I also live in Truro, Nova Scotia, Canada. There, it's either motorcycling weather or snowmobiling weather. I suppose I could put snow chains on my motorcycle. And maybe some Biden-inspired outriggers so I don't fall over. You are invited to come up in a month or so and go motorcycle riding with me. Wear Long Johns. Let's go out to Peggy's Cove. Cool ride! Thanks for the reply.

@happygiraffe9787

Жыл бұрын

Helmet isn't supposed to survive a hammer hit, it's supposed to save your brain from injuries

Another extremely thorough product testing video that was right up my alley. :-) A++

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

This has been really educational and will save me lots of money with my future decisions, I appreciate your accuracy and complete honesty with your tests/reviews

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

About halfway through the video, I was starting to agree with your final assessment that the high output batteries are more suitable for the cold. So that’s a good data point for me. Thank you for taking time to do this test.

@aussie2uGA

Жыл бұрын

Yep, a higher output is higher discharge when cold.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

@MarkusG85

Жыл бұрын

Those high performance batteries are made for tools that take advantage of them. For Ryobi for example it has to say "One+HP" which none of the tested tools did. Would have been interesting to see how much the batteries would have made a difference if tested in tools designed for them. I think on those tools the voltage doubles using the pins that you can see at 0:37.

I watch a lot of youtube videos week to week, but the absolute highlight every time is when I see the latest project farm video show up every Sunday. I'm not even entirely sure why I enjoy this channel so much...I think it's just Todd. Thanks for the videos Todd. Wishing you a happy and productive New year.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much and the same to you!

Thank you for spending your time testing 👍🏻

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Thank you 👍

Should do a test of OEM vs aftermarket batteries also! That would be very interesting.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Great suggestion! Thank you

@dimmacommunication

Жыл бұрын

true , I'm curious aboht the FCA/ Mopar ones , I have one as a replacement and works fine

@marcelo403polo2

Жыл бұрын

No point of that test. Read reviews, aftermarket batteries are pure junk. On other hand my first Makita 18V I bought in 2006 would simply kill any new high output new batteries. And those were just 3Ah.

@jpjr6757

Жыл бұрын

Agree. I’ve found some good knockoff 5ah batteries I use in my Dewalt tools. Especially my Dewalt chainsaw

@marcelo403polo2

Жыл бұрын

@@jpjr6757 Pure luck I bet. Mostly those are junk

Just remember you need a ryobi tool with the HP contacts to see a difference

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

The timing for this video is spot on as I was just looking at these batteries the other day in the store, and wondering if the price difference was really worth it. Thanks for doing some testing so we can make informed purchases!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Great to hear!

@l00nybin

Жыл бұрын

It largely depends on what you will use them for and what brand. Milwaukee: the HO batteries make more power in their impact tools and drills. TorqueTestChannel showed how the CP3.0 HO battery in an impact wrench made the same torque as the XC5.0 battery. It obviously didn't last as long, but it made the same power with a *lighter and smaller* battery pack. The XC6.0 HO battery was more powerful than the regular xc6.0 battery.

Would love to see you test levels Could do 2’ and 4’ levels. Could Test for accuracy, durability, magnetic strength, weight, etc Absolutely love the reviews! Most of my purchases are decided in these reviews. Keep up the great work!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do! Thanks for the video idea.

Really appreciate these reviews sir! Unbiased testing is hard to come by. Keep up the great work! 👍🏿

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

Thanks for all that you do, the videos you make are amazing and save money/ improve the lives of people who make a living with tools. Keep up the good work, it's very much appreciated.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Good set of tests, thanks

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Love all the videos. I would love to to see some actual independent tests on silicone caulk with so many choices and grades. How does a person know what to choose I think a review like this could help out many home DIY people.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

@tomtheplummer7322

Жыл бұрын

DIYers and often independent women need to find some good caulk. Or just find a local professional caulker. Yelp if ya need one. If they insist on doing it alone, the first step is to determine the size of the job. Do they need to fill a narrow or wide gap? Take some simple measurements. There are small tubes, a 10oz is approximately 10” X 1-7/8” perfect for occasional use. Size the receiving gun accordingly. A medium job can be satisfactorily accomplished with adequate pumping of refills. Optionally the 29oz tube/gun offers a wider range to select from and thusly fills a wider gap of usage than the smaller caulks could satisfactory. Lastly if one is considering a larger job with longer tool life consider an electric or pneumatic gun. The endurance and material delivery proves to be most satisfactory time and time again. 👍🏻👌🏻🤷‍♂️😏🤫🤭💪🛠😎😆🔩

@nowthatsfunny1

Жыл бұрын

Tey absolute only silicone caulk to use is GE's 100% silicone. I've used all brands in my 21 year business and the only one I'll use is GE 100% silicone. Its a white tube with blue lettering.

@chuckdawg2799

Жыл бұрын

same for construction glue

@chuckdawg2799

Жыл бұрын

@@nowthatsfunny1 ive really liked the brand PPG sells. but the GE line is really good.

Love your videos, hats off to you sir for doing all this testing with your own money to save us time and money, much appreciated

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Good stuff as always. I have seen some other tests where certain tools benefit from a better battery. It wasn't a massive difference but probably enough to notice. I have a bunch of ryobi tools so I just got their special buy two pack of 4amp high output for $99. I couldn't resist since they are normally $110 each.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@somethingsomething3718

Жыл бұрын

Same here. I got about a million Ryobi tools laying around and never seem to have a fully charged battery

Those results are surprising, thanks for testing so thoroughly!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

The amount of dedication in this channel never fails so amaze me. Never stop the good work.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great job putting the manufacturer claims to the test! That's why so many people love your channel!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thank you so much for doing this. I feel much better about my Ridgid batteries now.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Glad to hear!

I love how much care goes into your videos . Great content as always .

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Thank you for another great test video!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

ryobi fanboy here. The Ryobi 1+ HP batteries make a huge difference in the high end HP tools. Especially in the Brushless models. They have an additional contact on the base of the battery, just at the beginning of the stem. My angle grinder often stalls using a regular battery, never with the HP battery. I would loved to have seen a comparison of a Fake Ryobi battery. But I can't assume it would be the same as the Fake Mil. Awesome testing. Thanks Todd.

@promo130

Жыл бұрын

ryobi and high end hahahaahaahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahhaahhahhahaahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahah

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@EnderlePropertyService

Жыл бұрын

@@promo130 Hate to burst your tool snob bubble but you do realize Ryobi is owned by TTI, the same company that makes Milwaukee… and some of their brushless tools have tested quite favorably. Not everybody cares what color the case is, as long as it works. I have their high torque impact doing commercial trailer service and rebuilds and it just flat out works, even being abused. Has rarely ever failed to get a rusted lug nut off. And if it did, it took a 1” air impact to do it. Ditto the Ryobi grease gun, just flat out works. And in case you missed it ih the video…Todd KEPT the vacuum.

@promo130

Жыл бұрын

@@EnderlePropertyService 😂😂 clown, ryobi even stated themself , if you use it professional you will void the warranty😂😂😂 call that high end Read the box einstein Ryobi is for diy Not pro’s

@erikjhh

Жыл бұрын

@@EnderlePropertyService #1 Ryobi is not owned by TTI. #2 TTI makes tools for several market tiers, ryobi is one of the lower end ones. Just like S, B&D makes dewalt.

I really like the comparison within the same brands. I would love to see some changes comparisons between tools within the same brand.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion.

Thanks Todd. Happy 2023 🥳

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Happy 2023 to you!

Thank you! This is what I was hoping you would do!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

I think the Max output batteries will become the new entry level behind Stacked batteries. Would love to see the MO vs the Stacked, I know you lose Amp hours but the power they are showing coming out of the Flex tools is pretty insane.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion.

Hey! Absolutely love your content. Looks forward to it every week. Just have a future suggestion. Test out some of the high weight gear oils. I'd love to know how Mobile One, Valvoline, Amsoil, and even Motorcraft stack up! Could be interesting to test the high weight oils vs conventional

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

Thanks for this vid! Its interesting to see this comparison along with the ones that TTC does. They seem to find improvement with the H.O. types, but the tool functions they test with are different.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

Thank you!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Speaking of batteries. Testing UPS back up batteries would be interesting to test.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video idea!

I see a lot of comments on here about not testing HP tools with the HP batteries or not using impact guns for torque testing or so on. However I still found the test useful as it served to see what sort of impact high performance batteries have on tools that don’t necessarily use them. Great work and awesome video.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Thank you for your no-nonsense testing and videos. I often have to watch other videos at 1.5x speed, but yours are always 'no fluff' and informative.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

That's an eye-opener, thanks!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

Thorough testing as usual! Surprised the results were so close... But in a heavy load application I'd want my battery to run as cool as possible for longevity, so the high performance packs are all ahead there.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

@liveandletlive2894

Жыл бұрын

Not the milwaukee though

@promo130

Жыл бұрын

then you need to store them in freezer

@psynurse

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same although how much longer would they last?

Hi there, first of all, love watching your videos! Okay, so I have the milwaukee M18 5.5ah high output (I'm in the UK) and I seem to be getting better performance from my m18 fuel grinder and m18 high toque with the 5.5ah over the 5ah, both tools are quite hard on batteries, but in my opinion, you need to be using the fuel range of tools to get the most out of them. However it did improve the performance of a non fuel circular saw, but not by much, certainly not by 60% which is the difference in price between the m18 5ah and the m18 5.5ah here in the UK. Keep up the good work.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Awesome work! Can't wait for 2023 showreel!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Just started this video but something that comes to mind is a REALLY good channel that compares tools and batteries in the process is torque test channel. Those guys do a great job. They even do flashlights and some other non torque things.

This will probably be one of your most important videos. Most people aren't leaving their tool family because batteries are so expensive, but buying better batteries is something a lot of people will be interested in.

@aussie2uGA

Жыл бұрын

Anything with the Tesla 2170 cells would be an improvement

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Great feedback. Thanks!

It's interesting how the higher outputs often draw the amps down quicker even if it started with a higher capacity. Good application of algebra lol Also quick note, I love your multiple trails of the same tests. I can see how it'd be hard to present that without putting people to sleep but you might have figured it out 🤠

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@alexdrockhound9497

Жыл бұрын

Motors can only draw so many amps, a battery that can supply more amps than the motor can use means the motor will not perform any better. This is why its very tool specific. Also many high discharge rate high amp batteries (im talking single cells from the manufacturers) give up capacity to be able to discharge faster (though this is being improved quickly which is nice) So yeah, unless you have the right tool, the only benefit will be how it performs in the cold.

@---l---

Жыл бұрын

Huh, we did use algebra when we are older.

@jordanmercredi3740

Жыл бұрын

I fell asleep during this video but not because it was boring lol

@tomtheplummer7322

Жыл бұрын

You would enjoy the Torque Test channel along with Todd and PF. TT really plays with batteries and beans as well. I enjoy these channels and in Todd I trust. 🇺🇸👍🏻💪😎

Another enlightening segment. Thanks for sharing!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Excellent test... thank you

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

This PF video shows exactly what I expected. Nice to have it proven--again by Project Farm. This could be among the most valuable channels I watch regularly. I buy nothing without checking out PF to see if they have a review. The most honest testing available to the public, and I truly appreciate them.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@ricmackie8252

Жыл бұрын

But do you buy things you don't need, like air speed velocity meters, and tachometers, and air particle measurement meters?? LOL. I think a couple of us go that far....

Awesome video! Looking forward to the stacked lithium version down the road. Thank you very much for this!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

THE VIDEO EVERYONE WAS WAITING FOR! THANK YOU!!!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

Great job! Interesting results

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Would love to see you test measuring calipers. I wonder how accurate my cheap husky digital calipers are compared to more expensive calipers

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion.

@dfsmachinist5941

Жыл бұрын

From personal experience, cheaper versions are decently accurate, what you gain with "Pro" brands, is repeatability(subjective because of operator ofc), better quality, specially in frame, rigidity of frame, smoother feel, being more dust and coolant resistant, etc. Some models you'll gain extra decimal point on read out for what's that worth. After having multiple brands and versions, my personal preference are the coolant proof Mitutoyo's, I've had Brown & Sharp, Starrett, Fowler, and etc other brands, and none are as nice as genuine Mitutoyo's(there are plenty of knockoff, specially of non coolant proof ones).

@hztn

Жыл бұрын

@@dfsmachinist5941 - I'd heard that knockoff Mitutoyo calipers hold battery charge around for a month, in compare to a genuine with over a year battery lifespan. Didn't buy it yet.

@dfsmachinist5941

Жыл бұрын

@@hztn Yep, sounds about right, one of guys in shop had a knock off.

Thank u for the video 😊.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome and thank you!

Glad you tested these. Saved me some money.😁

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad to hear!

I love this whole channel is just an elaborate excuse to have ALL the tools. Thanks for the dedication to unbiased results though every video.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Not much but if it helps you stay clear concise and unbiased I am happy to help, really appreciate your videos they give me REAL buying information!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for supporting the channel! I really appreciate it!

Nice work 👏

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

We needed this, thanks

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

Another very smart and helpful test. And very impressive. Thanks for the test!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Hey Todd, love your channel. Could you add parallel clamps and bar clamps (probably separate) to your long list of things to test? I think a lot of woodworkers would appreciate it greatly. It's hard to tell sometimes whether to pay a premium or if middle of the road is adequate. Thanks!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for the video idea.

I love the channel! I think your tests did a great job showing that (for packs with the same capacity) "high output" really doesn't mean much under normal use (The total watt hours are the same). However, I feel there was a missed opportunity here. Both the Milwaukee and the Kobalt uses the larger 21700 cells in their 'upgraded' packs. Which to me directly implies they wanted the upgrade to provide better *peak current* output. But the both the blower & vacuum would have a cap on current draw to prevent damage to the fans. The chainsaw could peak more, but I suspect that since the motor drives a chain, they too have artificial current limits to ensure safety if extreme torque is applied to the chain. Only the circular saw (conceptually) seems like it would be able to continually draw more and more (since the motor is directly coupled to the blade and transferring it's torque directly to the wood). ---- I would love to know how much the better the 'upgraded' batteries are at handling 'extremes' where the torque (and current) are much higher than normal. ---- I think running each pair on a circular saw as it tries to cut increasingly tough material would show if the 'upgraded battery' is a cash grab or an actual benefit for the few who are the most demanding of their tools. That said I am no expert on the EE behind power tools. Perhaps every tool has an artificial current cap set well below what the normal battery could provide, which is entirely possible. In which case the upgraded battery of the same capacity is totally a cash grab (aside from some limited cold weather benefits). So I feel like that was a missed opportunity, but no hard criticism here... Your video still does an excellent job showing their behavior the way most people would use it. I love your work Todd! Thanks for putting these videos out there.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

2:00 does anyone else have immense anxiety at see the free floating chainsaw with his hand to catch it? You’re really smart and I’m a dummy who owns few tools and does very little manual labor. I hope you did this safely or will in the future. I might trust myself to do something like that but, like I said, I’m a dummy. We need you to keep producing this awesome content. Don’t want to lose you to an injury. God bless you. Happy New Year.

Your videos are always so fun and refreshing to watch. Thanks Todd!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

Another excellent video. So on the Milwaukee knock off, you get almost the same performance at regular temps (99%-100%) and about 75% the use per charge. However, it only costs 20% of the Milwaukee brand. That’s certainly math to consider! Thanks again for all these videos

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@napoleonsmith7793

Жыл бұрын

Dont do it. There is a reason you pay what you do. Much better materials that last longer. It matters in a crunch or repetion of charging and lackluster performance.

Awesome tests Todd. Question: when you cooled the batteries down to around 0F how long were they in the freezer on average?

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

15 hours

@JoeUrbanYYC

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm awesome, a good representation of the batteries left overnight in an unheated work truck, garage or shed.

Thanks for doing these videos!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

Thank you. Great review

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Torque test channel did many tests and showed how good higher capacity and high performance batteries do in comparison to regular versions. I def wish Harbor freight made a series for their Bauer like they do for the Hercules line, but it seems like they're tryna further differemtiate the two brands by giving Hercules all the premium features

@codygooch510

Жыл бұрын

You use the harbor freight power tools? You a pro or just a diy’er? If you are a pro How are they?

@JBPlaysGames1

Жыл бұрын

Your wish is granted lol They're coming out with 8ah bauer batteries now. My local store already has them.

@jamesnm21

6 ай бұрын

@@codygooch510 The Baur motors don't stand up to pro use and will smoke out on you. Similar to masterforce tools from Menards. I have a masterforce 7inch grinder and have cut lots of concrete with it but you have to be careful to not overload the motor or you can smell it. By babying it a little I've kept it alive so far but not on the quality level of major brands.

Love your reviews! I make purchases based upon your objective test results. Unfortunately, I purchased a bunch of Ryobi hp batteries before this test😞

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@steffendetrick

Жыл бұрын

I love his reviews too but unfortunately, and it happens to everyone he missed the mark on this one. Don’t feel bad about buying the HP batteries they were a good investment. Certain tools are designed to take advantage of that HP architecture and extra power and other tools are not capable of drawing that extra power. Your HP Ryobi tools should be paired with your Ryobi HP batteries. I run Milwaukee tools and you won’t see much of a difference if any at all, on things like vacuums but impacts, drills, saws, etc you will. but more so with Ryobi tools there’s actually an extra contact on the Ryobi HP tools just for the HP batteries.

Dude I just watched a video you did on hose clamps lmao. You test anything, this had become my favorite youtube channel. Retest low end knives and various AA & AAA batteries. I like that you state facts with no extra crap, straight to the point.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Another!!! Well done, comprehensive test. Thank you again.👍👍

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Thank you for the effort you put in these videos! The are really enjoyable to watch and very Handy. Keep it up

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! This means a lot to me!

Great work as usual! One question: you mentioned that you kept the Ryobi for this test. What do you normally do with all the tools you test?

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! What I don't save for future episodes I donate in my community.

@farandwide7176

Жыл бұрын

He sends them to the orphanage down the street.

@---l---

Жыл бұрын

The local high school, community colleges, and tool libraries must love PF. If PF ever had a yard sale it would be legendary.

@alexanderfehr2047

Жыл бұрын

So would that mean since this is your business that it is a tax write off when you buy it and you could write it off a second time when you donate it?

@keith3761

Жыл бұрын

@@alexanderfehr2047 shhhhhhhhhhhhh

Really good test, thankyou.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

You are my new Consumer Reports. They used to test things, now not so much. Your testing is excellent, and we get to see you run the tests as well. Excellent content all around.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Great idea. I wonder if there’s any difference in how many cycles they can survive. Not a test suggestion, just wonder if there’s a difference.

I know channels like TorqueTestChannel have shown that high output batteries can increase performance on some high torque impact guns. So in really high amp draw situations like with high torques or grinders it might matter more. But I also think it has a lot to do with whether the pack is using 18650s or 21700s, the latter being able to supply more amps. Would have been interesting to see full size chainsaws cutting 12in of hardwood. Would put a much bigger load on the saw and maybe they would take advantage of high output batteries.

@alexdrockhound9497

Жыл бұрын

Motors can only draw so many amps, a battery that can supply more amps than the motor can use means the motor will not perform any better. This is why its very tool specific. Also many high discharge rate high amp batteries (im talking single cells from the manufacturers) give up capacity to be able to discharge faster (though this is being improved quickly which is nice) So yeah, unless you have the right tool, the only benefit will be how it performs in the cold.

@MWDAstronomy

Жыл бұрын

@@alexdrockhound9497 The HP batteries have extra contacts that match extra contacts on the HP line of tools. When the battery senses these contacts on the tool it will allow more amps to the tool via the main contacts.(the extra contacts are only to sense the tool type and not conduct power) The non-hp tools don't have these so the battery will not output more amps because their motors and wires can't handle the extra amps. HP tools can pull more amps than non HP but only with a supporting battery.

Very thorough test as always.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I don't understand how you can be understood while speaking so fast without ever stumbling over your own tongue. I'm also impressed with your thoroughness and jig making.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Hey Todd, awesome video as always. I've been watching since you started, and finally have a few suggestions! I wonder if you could bust some "building envelope" myths. Maybe test different brands building paper/tar paper. Do they really allow moisture out? How tough are they when left on walls for long periods of time? I have just always wanted to get to the bottom of this one. Insulation would be a good one to test too, sprayfoam vs roxul vs fibreglass vs styrofoam etc... Did you test Oscillating Multitool blades? I forget. I swear, they're all trash, but maybe I'm using the wrong ones! Re: other user comment about doing coolers. Try the canyon cooler! They claim it's better than a yeti and cheaper. you should test that. A few other more popular ones make similar claims. What makes Yeti's so expensive? Are they worth it? Ever think of testing other auto parts? It would be cool to see house brands vs name brands for things like brakes and ball joints. With all the new online parts dealers, it's so hard to know if I should spring for the good ones or stick with the cheapo's. Thanks for all your hard work. We're all better off for it

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestions.

That was evidence to prove that, “you get what you pay for” is not always the case, right Ryobi? Thank you for sharing. And happy new year, everyone.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Good Point! Happy New Year!

Thanks again, great job.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Thank you for this fantastic video presentation & public service!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!