This sounds so employee vs employer. They should do another episode. Gen Z Bosses vs Boomers Bosses

Here are some of my 2cents 1. OT is not normal. OT is done only if rushing deadlines/ customer request.OT is to be paid MORE hourly than normal hours. 2. If OT too frequently, its a sign company needs to employ more. If nothing is done dont be suprised of burned out staff. 3. OT != good performance / deserve bonus. Bonus should be given for QUALITY OF WORK. 4. Mental health and health issues does affect work, so if u arent able to perform, take mc/leave or even leave the company. Health above work always. If work is causing your mental health to detoriate, LEAVE.

3:08, if your whole company got 20 people taking mental health breaks you should look into the problem. They from the same department? Under the same in-charge? Thats how you move on from there. The problem is obviously with the company at that point.

@raizan8493

2 жыл бұрын

Precisely..look and see the root cause of it..the 5 W 1H...how to.rectify the problems..stupid idiots these guy also..not fit to be yr own boss..dnt knw how to.take care yr employee's welfare..n benefits...bodoh nk.mampus..

That uncle is the living example of what no younger generation wish to end up as. A grumpy old person with no empathy, lack of common sense, tons of baggage, outdated mindset that actively harms others, & a crooked mouth among others.

@jac23538

17 күн бұрын

im pretty sure the " uncle's " life is more content than most younger generations these days. The problem is younger generations don't have the discipline and self responsibility to themself or to anyone. They are usually the first batch of people will bail if things get tough or uncomfortable for them. spending too much time on social media , constantly comparing for likes and validations. wanting to be famous on tik tok . Downright an insecure generation

"OT/off in-lieu feels very entitled... The team's job is to make the company money". If the company only treats employee as a money making tool, and not think of people needs - family, then I guess the company is self entitled too.

That traditional mindset is outdated. If uncle looked at the increasing rates of mental health issues, workplace abuse, suicides, and employee welfare, he might change his mind about the way he runs the company. Without a strong and healthy team working and fighting for the company, there wouldn't be a company to begin with. It's no longer about resilience. Quality over quantity. We've decided as the younger generation to set healthy boundaries at work and at home. Disrespect towards job scope and your employees just because you're "executive" is not an excuse to call before and past working hours, dump extra workload that's clearly not in the written jobscope contract. I feel like the uncle is the type to call everyone weak just because they're unwilling to tolerate abuse from upper management. Gen Z is doing what should've been done a long time ago. Respect and cherish your employees and you won't have high turnover rates and you will have a company that succeeds past expectations. If you have high turnover rates, maybe you should look into your company's work ethics and how they treat people and how they manage people and not call the younger generation "less resilient".

Some really don't know what mental health struggles is like. It's nothing close to " feeling low for the day ". The problems don't go away after 1 night of sleep. Really good debate. Encourage to have more content like this. 👍

@johantee21

2 жыл бұрын

Right right, but I also believe that's why the boss mentioned the necessary of getting it assessed. And in truth it is affordable to get an assessment, your local polyclinic provides mental health assessment services. And there are services that provide affordable to free counseling.

@johantee21

2 жыл бұрын

Importance is to have a standard in defining mental health. Some may feel that being depressed is going through an mental illness. But the truth is that feeling depressed is a symptom of clinical depression and alot other mental illness, but does n not mean that you have a mental illness

@jac23538

17 күн бұрын

Mental health is so over diagnose these days that people mistaken for episode of sadness of unhappiness as mental health issue. IT IS NORMAL to have ups and downs , highs and lows in LIFE . The question is how to you overcome it

"Attitude affects performance bonus" So is it called attitude bonus, or performance bonus?

I've worked 2 separate jobs, both of which demanded 10-12 hours a day for 6 days a week, listen to me, this will break you. I have received many compliments, appreciative thoughts and small gifts for my work but this will never even the scales. The amount of time sacrificed to build someone's mansion is better used to build your own. As the boss said, employee's should think as a team to perform and earn money for the company, similarly the company should view themselves as benefactors to their employee's for doing so but the latter is not the case. They dont value staff they way they used to and the generation does not operate as it used to just from the fact that we need way more just to survive nowadays.

I think the Gen Z brought forth a lot of good points but the older uncles are HAHAHA. Curious about the Orange shirt guy which company is he in charge of, would like to see the reviews at Glassdoor.

Lol pls go see his glassdoor review he's making a mess out of Gloo PR. Salary is between 2500-3500 ONLY. Typical MD that undercuts salary and goes to drink in a bar while reviewing his "team" work

@Cypher7697

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info.. He's a MD somemore🤦 Got money can be MD lah

The boomer has gotten all his pointers all wrong. Why are we not compensated on the Overtime that we use ? Why shld I die for company that can replace ME the day after I died? Getting stressed up affected my well being at work, I have people who were depressed and some colleagues who were diagnosed with hypertension due to the stress of their work? Is it really WORTH it? Are we supposed to be born in this world to do just that?

Uncles raise good point on mental health. I’m a gen z, I hope no one abuses their mental health issues at work. It is about accountability for your work and being reliable to your colleagues.

@zuxianchong

2 жыл бұрын

finally, someone gets it.

@isaacb.wilkins4763

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! You cannot self diagnose yourself and say you have clinical depression or another mental health illnesses when things don’t go your way. Mental health given social media and the pandemic is a real thing however it has been over used without proper diagnosis to back it up. Like the above comment there has to be some level of accountability for your work and seeking and or not seeking help.

@yaaankee9895

Жыл бұрын

@@isaacb.wilkins4763 some people dont have money to get a proper diagnosis though...

It's called a "performance" bonus, not an "attitude" bonus. The gentleman in orange is exactly what's wrong with old bosses these days. Simply just can't keep up with time. This kind of boss are also the ones that whine about how hard it is to hire (and retain) people, let alone talents. If employees calling it a day after doing what they are paid to do is considered "bad attitude", then clearly you're not a good boss either. If you want your employees to do more than they are supposed to, the least you could do is compensate accordingly. At the end of the day, they are just trying to make a living from 9-6 and get back to their family and friends afterwards. They don't owe you anything afterwards beyond office hours. If you constantly need people to OT, maybe consider that your business is taking in more than you can handle? Maybe hire more people? Sometimes it's not that the employees are not good enough. Sometimes, it's because of terrible bosses like the gentleman in orange. I pray for the wellbeing of whoever is working for this fella. They deserve better. Ladies and gentlemen, your company can easily replace you with a snap of a finger. But you can't get back the time you lost with your loved ones.

I hope everyone working for that uncle is doing well mentally, emotionally, and physically. If not, please take care of yourself and LEAVE. We work to live, not live to work. We should always have time outside of work for our own lives, spending time w family and friends, and more importantly taking care of ourselves. There are plenty of jobs out there who will appreciate your efforts compared to this boomer boss. Now 2022 already, he thinks it’s still 2009. Find leaders who are aware and appreciative, not bosses who are discouraging and forceful. You must remember, an employee can be replaced quickly when they’re gone, so don’t slog your life away for a company who don’t see your true value and efforts. ^ Just me and my Gen Z opinion cos we know how to speak up and not settle for less in the already harsh adulting world

ugh the uncle in orange speaks with such an unsavoury top-down tone, it's so rude. Doubt anyone would take an opinion from him without getting rubbed the wrong way.

just because boomers are shy to say that they are stressed doesn’t mean that the younger generation cannot do it - who is being entitled here? sorry i’m earning money to feed myself not the company thx

What is the point of that Table Tennis game??

Whr is that uncle from? Imma avoid at all costs.

@ricoteo4209

2 жыл бұрын

@@aihoda Thanks! Gg check out glassdoor 🤣

My anger from that TikTok video brought me to this comment section

Lol. I can hear the uncle telling me "you're lucky to be in this job." Okay lah he got a point, not happy quit lah. Anyway today everyone got a lot of options what, why must stick around and hear LJW and kua buay song. Next episode will be about, "It's so difficult to hire people." LOL

@premanandraj

Жыл бұрын

i cant wait when true recession comes in and both their parents and the gen z is affected

What’s with the title? “Are Gen Zs F***ing Up The Workplace?” Seems a tad biased.. why not “Is It Time For Boomer Bosses To Adapt To The New World?”

@renaawq8742

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe this channel is run by scared Millennials or Boomers themselves 😵‍💫🤡

@AsadNazif

2 жыл бұрын

Right on

bosses always say team work and expect employees to stay late... to that i say pay me

Make this a generation gap series! I notice a major point of contention is with virtual interviews/meetings/work vs f2f: Boomers love seeing staff at desk all the time and interview candid asked in the flesh, while younger ones prefer wfh and zoom meetings. Of cos not so b&w: I m Gen x but I would luv as many wfh days as I can!

Nice format using tt game; was looking forward to smacks and backhands though.....😅

I think largely it is also that gen z’s don’t tolerate bullshit from their bosses or having to deal with authoritative figures. As a gen z myself, I feel that we have standards that we have been up-keeping since birth in sg (from education, tuition, how to behave etc.) passed to us by our predecessors so whatever they lacked in the past, they also passed us this knowledge.. so I guess in some way we are speaking up to old beliefs and unjust work treatments?

Gonna say this uncle company will soon collapse if he continue to have this kind of mindset.

this kind can be MD for a PR firm LOL

The success and prosperity of the country Singapore is not build by Gen z for sure. Its time for other country to take this throne. The future of Singapore will be grim with these work forces

Mental health is expensive but I think if you have a strong mental health issue there are a lot of resources out there to try to find some inexpensive help to try to atleast get some temporary help while you try to secure funding. Your health is important and taking the time, although it can be challenging, to find some level of help is better than no help. I am a millennial and I believe gen z response to “ I cannot get help if I have clinician depression” is an excuse. Again With the rise of mental health awareness there have been more resources available, and taking not taking the time to try to find some form of atleast a clinical diagnosis is an excuse. I am not dismissing it being challenging to find given the money in mental health but there are more non profits and resources than before to atleast give a good starting point to deal with mental health . To gen Z’s point I think jobs should offer more mental health benefits which might help with the stability of a company and appeal to gen z and millennials who prioritizes it. Old work settings where people just push through has some grit and merit but i think striving to create a better work environment can be conducive for everyone! I applaud gen z for having high expectations for healthy work environments however I believe they lack the work ethic necessary to achieve it. Nothing happens over night and in order for change to happen from years of bad work practices you have to be willing to do the work to help put the transition in place. It’s a team effort from all generations but everyone has to take accountability and contribute to a better society. My issue with gen z is that it anytime they see an issue or confrontation or a hard struggle they are quick to abandon ship. If everyone abandons ship who will stay and fight/build a better future. In life you will have struggles you can’t avoid them but learning healthy ways to push through them and make better space for your peers, those who you lead and a generation behind you is what it’s about. True victory means no selfish from all generations but understanding and unity. Thank you to all participants of the video and whomever set up this virtual discussion great video.

Uncle gonna struggle hard to get employees if he keeps up that mentality. Your older staff are hitting retirement age and you need to depend on millennials and gen Z to take over. If you don't cater to their needs, your company won't be standing for long. It could be the most profitable company but if it cannot attract and retain staff, it's just a matter of time before it closes. Look at giant companies like Google, Microsoft, Facebook for example. They are adapting their staff benefits to changing demands to attract and retain employees. If giant businesses like them are kicking out old habits, what more for smaller businesses? Why would anyone choose your company over them if they had the choice? The only employees you will be getting are those with no choice and they are certainly not going to work as hard for the little amount of benefits you are providing.

In youtube comments more praised for the Gen Z, while in tiktok Millenials more praised

Very interesting , company has to adapt to new generation of worker .

They go completely against going the extra mile, hahahaha.

are there any gen zs that actually are putting their work first because they know to respect it and know how to be a team member? i have colleagues like all these in the comments and it's hell. just because you dont think you are paid enough to do OT, someone else has to pick up after you just to ensure deadlines are met. what a selfish bunch, so self entitled too. this strawberry generation is trying to be so woke, it's going to ruin themselves in the future. on top of making everything over complicated, and taking everything to social media, abit of workplace stress and it's over for them, they break. suck it up like the rest of us, if you cant handle, go to therapy, go for yoga, talk to someone! figure yourself out and become stable enough to work. if mental health is so important for you guys, stop work and solve it first. why are you trying to solve urself and yet still want to be hungry for money and continue on working?

@isaacb.wilkins4763

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! It comes off very entitled and selfish.

It is not about which generation the employees or employers is in but rather the mentality of a person that matters. Not having effective and constructive communication is the key to have all those problems. Besides, the lack of active listening skills and being judgemental just make the situation worse. Occasional OT is fine but consistent OT just show that more staffs are needed. And, bonus shouldn't be tied to the number of OT people willing to do. Sorry Uncle, you are not only outdated but you lack ethics and professionalism. You don't make a good leader/boss too with your short-sightedness for not grooming a team who are willing to work for you. And, you are also self entitled to think that it's okay not to pay bonus with your spelled out criteria. To make matter worse, you stigmatised the group of people with mental health. Regardless of how many employees with mental health issues you have hired, doesn't justify how much you know about them. Mental health is a silent illness. I suggest you need to make friends with mental health medical professionals. For the another boss, it just show that you have poor people management skill if you need that one person to complete a job. Without him, your company or team can't function. You don't have backup plan to cover those in absence. And, if all your employees need to take mental health break all at one go, it again show your poor management skill. If your employee turnovers is high, it also show how lousy the boss and/or culture of the company. In addition, learn from the big corporation with ethic. Reflection goes both ways. Don't pay $1,000 and expect him to generate $100,000 income. I am not from Gen Z.

Gen Z cannot handle stress. I think that nowdays Gen Zs have more pressure at work than generations before. Coz u have to constantly upskill just to keep your job and living expenses just keep rising. It's really a lot more stress to handle.

Both sides have their merits. We owe it to Gen-Zs for the shift in attitudes in the workplace we're increasingly seeing - which is a good thing now that more people are vocal about respecting personal-work boundaries; but at the same time we really shouldn't be discounting what the guy in orange says. I don't agree with some of what he says, but at the same time he also makes sense in some of his points. Comments on here that say - oh if you have a whole department of people with mental health issues then the problem lies with your company - kinda shows how superficial certain people think. Are we really going to assume everyone's mental health issue is caused by the workplace? That people cannot have mental health issues stemming from other causes like domestic/personal relationships? Not that I know, but when that orange boss said he has 3 employees with clinical depression, I wonder if anyone even paused to think perhaps he hired them _despite_ their mental health issue? If he doesn't keep them in his company, is he gonna be called out for not being more inclusive? And if 3 people in a department wants to take a break on the same day because of supposed mental health issues, who's going to pick up their load? Colleagues, no? And if (I stress the if here) this happens regularly, resentment is bound to happen. These people who are picking up their loads are going to start asking questions like why they are getting the same pay as the ones with mental health issues but taking on their loads; never mind that, in fact, they are going to demand more pay in any case because they are doing more. At the end of the day, you have less people trying to hit the company's goals, leading to burnouts because they are taking on more load and eventually resulting in people leaving en masse. The answer is not as simple as - oh why don't you just extend the deadline or hire more people - having been on both sides, it's not always as straightforward. People picking up others' loads? Either increase their pay or give them off-in-lieus. But you're still hitting what was the company's original KPI. Extend the deadline? It's not something you can always do that but sure, that means you close the project later. Less projects, less money for the company. Hire new people? Sure, but bear in mind the concept of diminishing returns is real and scaling a company is not as easy as people think it is. Ultimately, these solutions I see come at the cost of potential profits which affects the company's performance and in turn potential bonus for the employees and then what? Complain the company isn't paying well or have shitty bonus and then leave. It's a cycle. Probably gonna draw flak for this but sometimes, the truth hurts. Don't @ me lol.

I am a millennial and I think this is just a dumb way argument in how it was constructed. "It feels very entitled." Yeah man. I mean I don't think you know what entitled means uncle. I am not sure how to tag anyone on KZread but I think there is a channel call Joshua Fluke has the vocabulary to answered a lot of this argument.

Personally if I were the Gen Z kids in the video speaking to the orange shirt uncle - i would not let it slide :D

I get all this but also I hope te don't expect any help in their job like any extra help too

I find it hard to agree with what the guy from the Boomer Generation says but I also find it quite annoying that the Gen Zs are shown here interrupting before the other side finishes their statement. I really hope it's the editing because a generation that grew up with social media's constant/instant engagement is potentially more likely to have ADHD and lesser patience.

I wont work for this type of boss

dk where these older employees staying maybe under the rocks or up in the mountains lah or maybe he is a time traveller travelling from the past cause obviously the mindset is so outdated. and idek how these gen zs (kuddos to them) can keep their cool and play ping pong after hearing those ridiculous comment.

The old guy mentality is so old school...nowadays is no more loyalty...he forgot that bad managers are the cause of employees leaving.Which company he owns or work for?he is the MD of gloo pr...wow with this kind of attitude how I wonder he have a PR company🤦🤷

Think to work as a team = excuse to do more job for others when we are paid the same. And u have an urgent job and u need me to handle. I will handle if you give me OT pay. It is logical. The name it self says OVERTIME PAY. how is this a dangerous mindset lols.

@ashwinrao9937

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently your job folks are your family lol

@selenazhang3069

2 жыл бұрын

@@ashwinrao9937 ikr I can’t even handle my own family, they are asking us to be in a new family 🥲

Fired, soft. Seeya

If i be an auditors in MOM.be it as workplace safety and.health.....this uncle surely kena.jialat² one.....i will surely charged him..

Lol if u are a civil servant, u pretty damn right know that your bosses are like this uncle. OT? Whats OT. Lol. But nonetheless pls dont be like gen z’s… strawberry generation. Whats wrong with a little hardship in your work life? Its called work for a reason.

Amen

If u dnt see any progression.......,no upgrading.....then in the end u cn see all FTs....who.have E passess..S Passes....more.than locals...n also PR..u better cabut already...coz.this coy.....dnt practice TFA..etc....who.dnt care locals etc....better cabut..bfore they buang u for reasons..n furthermore...if u have medical illnesses..like..chronic diseases...heart..High BP.,cancer etc...some.of.them.just ignore u..etc..even u go medical.appts.etc..n u claims medical bills..in.the end u kena.buang....pls...report to MOM..MOM..pls oversee this issues....a lot taking advantage...over this....

@hotmixer2010

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of companies employ S and E Pass post job at mycareersfuture wayang only, kenna a lot never view at all, interview 1 round no reply at all or reply position filled or they choose someone else, cb wasting Singaporeans time so they can tell MOM locals all not suitable

Rice is a pretentious media outlet, discuss

@mekajiki6339

2 жыл бұрын

Are you currently unemployed? Drop by for an interview with us

@ashwinrao9937

2 жыл бұрын

The orange guy is hiring, time to get a new job buddy

What is no money.. can go poly clinic ma..