Are election results worst of all worlds for Tories?
The Conservatives are facing their worst local election results in 40 years - and yet it looks like Rishi Sunak may cling on after Ben Houchen secured a victory in the Tees Valley mayoral vote. But what next for the Conservative Party?
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Are they now in the worst of all worlds with a wounded leader facing defeat at the general election or can Rishi Sunak turn it around?
To discuss all this and more we are joined by Spectator editor Fraser Nelson, former Conservative Chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng and Labour’s Leader in the House of Lords Baroness Angela Smith.
Produced by Silvia Maresca, Calum Fraser, Rob Thomson, Nick Jackson.
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I don't think it matters who the Tory leader is. It's not Sunak that we're sick of, it's the whole party.
@AurumEtAes
29 күн бұрын
Endless seesawing between Tory and Labour administrations and their empty ejection pledges has got a lot of people feeling disillusioned and disengaged from actually voting
@potnoogle5780
29 күн бұрын
Spot on
@simonf2220
29 күн бұрын
Totally agree.
@ShireenSukhan
29 күн бұрын
People don't buy dresses to see the designer who made them, but the models who are wearing them. 😊
@miras2222
29 күн бұрын
yep, they desperate try to put all blame on Sunak. In reality Tory party as a whole is rotten. There are more crooks, creeps and nrcissistic idiots than decent common-sense people.
The Tories got a kicking nothing less than they deserve, the people want a general election now.
@chriswalsh2604
29 күн бұрын
But Sunak won’t call one because he’s a shot house
@oojimmyflip
29 күн бұрын
@@chriswalsh2604 hes scared
@Timlagor
29 күн бұрын
@@chriswalsh2604 *Conservatives* got a kicking. The other Tory party did fine
@sfactory8253
29 күн бұрын
@@oojimmyflip he's frit.
@thecheesefactor
28 күн бұрын
Sunak has thrown local Tories under the bus in the vain hope there might be a recovery for the national Tories in the next few months. There won't be a recovery. Continuing the nonsense like Rwanda is just making the electorate angrier.
Why are we still watching this man on tv wen he recked the uk getting more money for failure
@JoButterwick
29 күн бұрын
Exactly what I thought. His opinion is worth nothing and I’m not going to waste time listening to his waffle.
@keithsunderland8839
29 күн бұрын
Because the UK Political system is broken and favours crooks!
@thejdemon
29 күн бұрын
*When *Wrecked
@keldsleepnot7961
29 күн бұрын
@@thejdemonwhy do you care about their grammar? It's their opinion that matters. Their comment was perfectly coherent. My brother who suffers acutely with both dyslexia and ADHD really struggles with grammar, but it's the constant pedantry of people like you who stop him from commenting in these forums. He got sick of trying to make some extremely good points in these forums to only be ignored because some petty tyrant pedant thinks that grammar policing is more important than his very sound and usually intelligent opinions
@keldsleepnot7961
29 күн бұрын
It's the revolving door! He's part of the establishment so no matter how much he cocked up he will never struggle for an overpaid earn! Look at Anne widecombe, she's been irrelevant for over two decades with her backwards ideology based in bronze age philosophy. Yet still she tops up her political pension with TV appearances spouting her vile hate
First time I've seen Kwasi pop up since his budget.
@rustynail1194
29 күн бұрын
He was sniffing around a few weeks ago on the same program. He shouldn't even be on TV the useless 🤡
@nicholasdickens2801
29 күн бұрын
He has popped up a lot and rather sickeningly he speaks a lot of sense and I cannot understand why he did what he did.
@HakunonMatata
29 күн бұрын
@@nicholasdickens2801 Either it wasn't his choice and he was Liz's scapegoat or he was completely delusional and learnt the hard way.
@apollonia-ava
29 күн бұрын
Really don’t need to see him too often unless he says I am so very very sorry 😂
@joelboy19
29 күн бұрын
@@nicholasdickens2801 He made loads of money, shorting the pound for his friends. That, or he's just an idiot. Which is it.
Sunak and Suella are disgraces, they both should get out of uk politics .
@SMT729
29 күн бұрын
Absolutely. Two nasty divisive hypocrites and hatemongers.
@rrbh
29 күн бұрын
So, you are on first name terms with Braverman eh? Tell us more.
@hanna-vl1ch
29 күн бұрын
@@rrbh your card is expired please contact your card issuer
@DeNuevo
28 күн бұрын
And boris, cameron, gove, raab, and anyone who voted for brexit!
What gives a good god dam what Kwasi Kwarteng thinks or says. The man is demonstrably useless and a prime example of how the Tories are scaping the barrel of candidates. All you need to do is look at what this group of people, who wouldn't last 5 minutes in a real job, have done to our country. Why are they being put on shows and where is the voice of the opposition on here.
@jamiec4000
28 күн бұрын
It’s mad how someone can do such a bad job and still get booked to give his opinion on national tv. And we’re told MP’s need to be paid well to attract the best talent
@jamiec4000
28 күн бұрын
When Kwarteng says a new leader wouldn’t have a mandate, either nationally or within the party. What kind of mandate does he think Sunak has. Properly mental
@stevec6427
23 күн бұрын
@@jamiec4000 Kwarteng, Truss and the think tank who wrote their budget get a lot of air time between them and I don't understand why. I did enjoy the fact that both of Katie Price's books outsold Truss's launch week sales in their launch week. People would rather read something by a bimbo than a moron
Who else cringed when Kwasi said the words "the numbers"? A man who knows nothing about numbers. As for the guy from the Spectator..... they always gloss over the disgraceful liar Johnson's misdemeanors.
@tobyalan8874
29 күн бұрын
He should be in prison along with all the other corrupt Tories.
@TheLucanicLord
28 күн бұрын
The Spunktater is all about free markets and laissez-faire, but when they were going to be taken over they got the government to block it.
@brianbell3836
28 күн бұрын
@@tobyalan8874 Michelle Mone.
@TrevorBarre
27 күн бұрын
The Spectator. An honest analysis? Really? Who owns this rag?
@willscott1171
23 күн бұрын
Every time that man talks all I hear is white noise so totally missed that
Who has less shame? Kwasi for showing his face without any apology (like nothing ever happened), or Channel 4 for attempting to relegitimise him. The man should be done in politics and power
@MarkStevens8899
28 күн бұрын
Surely what ever Kwasi says anyone would do the opposite?? Advice from his advice I dont need lol.
@DeNuevo
28 күн бұрын
C4 did not make rishi put him in charge, idiot.
So two hard-line Tories and one Labour peer. Nothing like a balanced panel. Nothing like.
@toysntings4087
29 күн бұрын
Completely balanced considering channel 4 is left wing too
@silondon9010
29 күн бұрын
Channel 4 news is the Guardian on Air
@DeNuevo
28 күн бұрын
@@toysntings4087 No, they are centre right, idiot, there has never been any leftwing media or politics on this country, except during WWII when we had a leftwing coalition, because when it actually matters you need people who are acting out of partiotism, not right-wing greed and stupidity.
@DeNuevo
28 күн бұрын
@@silondon9010 The guardian being opely run by GCHQ and MI5 since the 90s.
@geraldbutler5484
28 күн бұрын
@@silondon9010Que?
For God’s sake Sunak…just go!
@dianamincher6479
29 күн бұрын
Rishi is a new type of superglue?
@thevikingwarrior
29 күн бұрын
@@dianamincher6479 Don't sniff that glue, I dread to think what you would see!
@thecheesefactor
28 күн бұрын
@@thevikingwarrior A vision of the Santa Monica skyline.
@maikotter9945
28 күн бұрын
ein Beitrag des Sonnabendes, 4. Mai 2024 Is Rishi Sunak, a Brahman of the Hindu religion? There can NEVER be >= 1 "God"! "May the Force be with you!"
What is Fraser Nelson talking about? "Labour got 43%, Boris Johnson almost got almost 50%." No he didn't, Johnson got 43.6%.
What this country needs now, is proportional representation. If the constant choice is a to and fro between bread and slightly staler bread, then it’s long before time for _real_ democracy. It needs to be changed to _truly_ represent the voting choices of the people.
@lif6737
29 күн бұрын
Yes, please! The British First Past the Post system is disastrous for democracy, and yet most of its former empire uses it. I'm not British, but I want that change to happen to spur on a wave a election reforms around the world, including in my country. FPtP is outdated and broken and needs to be done away with, the UK electorate can lead that charge.
@Shsjier
29 күн бұрын
Too bad labour arent interested
@tonyug113
29 күн бұрын
PR - a way to totally Destroy the country -- and voted against by the sensible people -- PR is government by small minorities that hold the balance -- craziy communists like the greens (or imagine the dup controlling power , the other way)----- You also end up virtually never chnging the government like germany -- or every 2 minutes like italy ---- PR destroys democacy and puts you at the mercy of the crazies..
@rolandsausage
29 күн бұрын
Labour don't want that. They're happy with this farce sham of political system
@theelmonk
29 күн бұрын
Be very careful. The last thing you want is the party, rather than the voters, choosing which politicians the proportional vote will elect. It's essential we keep the requirement for individuals to be elected by their local voters.
Why are disgraced politicians constantly given airtime?
CRAZY QUARTENG SENT MY MORTGAGE UP X 4 WHAT ON EARTH HAVE CHANNEL 4 OF ALL STATIONS
@dianamincher6479
29 күн бұрын
Kwazi is too cool and dangerous!
@sfactory8253
29 күн бұрын
Yes but it helped savers. Think of them.
@jakien
28 күн бұрын
Lol the "savers"'s savings lost about 20% of it's value overnight 😂😂
@brianbell3836
28 күн бұрын
Should be in jail.
@mrstephenpariah
25 күн бұрын
It was actually Sunak. They used Truss to wreck the economy so American asset managers can buy up more UK property. It's Sunak who's tight with the IEA and the corps funding them, not Truss. The leadership election was just theatre to achieve that end.
Why is Kwasi on there?
@matthewsmith908
29 күн бұрын
Probably got nothing else to do after trying to ruin the economy
@oojimmyflip
29 күн бұрын
Because they couldnt find any real talent.
@ssuwandi3240
29 күн бұрын
DEI (Diversity Equity and Inclusion) in action. PS. diversity isn't bad but not the same as bundled it on behalf of political correctness. That is twisted
@keithwilliams744
29 күн бұрын
@@ssuwandi3240 Rubbish he won the vote from the Tory membership. This simple truth the Tories as a whole are useless.
@simonwood1402
29 күн бұрын
He should have an electronic tag on his ankle and 50 years in prison 😊👍
Conservatives are not talking about building houses, or investing in this country. It's all about Rwanda....
Listening to this makes me think we should jail them all.
@michaelc821
28 күн бұрын
No, jail the post office lot over the sub post masters scandal.
@brianbell3836
28 күн бұрын
They play games and we pay for their mistakes.
Greens, Channel 4. Greens! You had on Tice, now Quazi & The Spectator. I switched off TV tonight when you put on reheated UKIP for no good reason, now i'm switching off this warped panel that out-fashes even BBCQT! WTAF?!
@mrstephenpariah
25 күн бұрын
I vote Green but the current leadership is weirdly abysmal. They're not going to do nearly as well as they should, that's always been the case to some extent but now is their best and opportunity for a long time. And they're totally gonna blow it, again.
Kwasiiiiiii…PLEASE DONT LOOK AT ANY NUMBERS
Odd to invite Kwasi to this debate. I'm not sure anyone would trust his judgement considering he trashed the economy with the help of a prime minister who was overshadowed by an iceberg lettuce.
@mup_pet
29 күн бұрын
££££ And don't forget "‘He’s a great guy’: Kwasi Kwarteng told fake firm he could introduce them to Boris Johnson." (Guardian article). ££££
@dianamincher6479
29 күн бұрын
Delirious!
@KariCordier
29 күн бұрын
Nearly?! Definitely!
@thecheesefactor
28 күн бұрын
The only thing odder is that they still think there is hope for the Conservatives.
@DeNuevo
28 күн бұрын
His reputation is far less damaged than most tories or brexitards.
having another unelected leader or prime miniature is not acceptable, an election must be held.
@brianbell3836
28 күн бұрын
The annoying thing is, we know the nation want a General Election yet it's down to the whim of one person.
@Truthsayer-sc9uq
28 күн бұрын
To the people who think ‘Asians’ voted for khan: All asians are not people from ‘isl*m’.. people from India, Srilanka, and other non-isl*mic countries vote for tories if you don’t know.. The people who come here on a mission to make this an isl*mic state mostly vote for labour. Asia is not a country, it’s a continent just for convenience to refer in text books..
It makes no difference who leads the Tories into the Valley of Death.😂
Don't see difference between labour and Tories
@bluari6314
28 күн бұрын
I votes Labour most of my life but I can't seem to bring myself but voting for them this time around (defo not voting for the Tories)
@DeNuevo
28 күн бұрын
Paid liars. No two paryties copuld be any more different. The tories and reform are identical, that is why the lies about labour keep popping up from you dreggs of society.
@fredfish4316
28 күн бұрын
Well. You are a tory then.
@brianbell3836
28 күн бұрын
Huge difference. For a start, most labour MPs aren't crooks. Think Michelle Mone.
@CBM902Q
22 күн бұрын
Disappointed Tory. We are getting them out. Not another 5 years. And they have the guts to think that they can continue with their disaster and unable to control migrants keep coming across the channel daily
When Kwarteng is the one being more honest and insightful about Starmer you know the rest are talking rubbish.
How on earth can you ask the former chancellor for his opinion on anything
I remember being really angry that while I was waiting to see how much my energy bills were going up the government fighting over who will become the next pm. They just proved to me that they don't care about the people who can't afford as much as they can.
If the Country wants real change Ditch the 3 main parties and vote for independent MP'S. The electorate needs their heads examined, madness is repeating the same choices and expecting different outcomes.
I would like to see a party other than Conservative and Labour win. Change for the better. Break the mold. Unfortunately, the UK is in decline and the poor will pay the price.
Kwasi seems so resonable and sober, not like how I imagined, completely different from Truss
How the flip can he claim that "the Tories didn't do quite as badly as they thought." ??? They forecast they were going to lose 400 seats, they actually lost 20% MORE than that. They got absolutely hammered in Blackpool. They lost all but one of the regional mayorships. All Labour gains. We really are living in a "post truth" age aren't we.
Rishi needs to just call an election now. The longer he clings on at no.10. It just looks desperate and embarrassing.
@quintuscrinis8032
29 күн бұрын
He knows he has little chance, every PM in his position has gone to the last moment.
@dianamincher6479
29 күн бұрын
Superglue Rishi is wobbling toward as long as it takes!
@rrbh
29 күн бұрын
Is he your mate? Why are you calling him' Rishi' - very chummy of you.
@alzo1sgood
28 күн бұрын
@@rrbh that's his name.
@rrbh
28 күн бұрын
@@alzo1sgood - Do you call all politicians by their first names, or do you make an exception for these media darlings ?
Do it, it would be funny.
Thanks for posting
Kwasi the absolute 🔔 end 😂😂😂
Why didn’t the bring Liz Truss on ? Might as well
It's quite revealing watching Tories discuss what's best for "the party" whilst the country falls to pieces. I hope everybody remembers this in the years to come.
@billpugh58
26 күн бұрын
They allowed the brexit referendum to save the party.
They'd be utterly crazy to change leaders again. _So Sunak's safe?_ I didn't say that.
Kwasi ‘it would look ridiculous having a 6th PM’ So 5 is the limit then? 😂 oh and Kwasi we don’t want another ‘Fiscal event’
The underlying problem with the likes of UKIP, reform independents, the SNP and to a lesser extent Galloway's party is there are no viable alternatives in Westeminster. The 'disruption' is an artefact of the First Past the Post system that erodes choice and representation. If people can't vote for the party that represents them they will vote tactically or a protest vote perhaps better described as 'vindictive'. It is time Labour and Tories recognise the urgent need for proportional representation and a fully elected upper house. All this talk of 'reaching out' to different groups when neither Labour nor Tories really represent huge sections of society is disingenuous, deceptive and worse actively discouraging participation. The bottom 3 income decile groups are not represented, those concerned about climate change, 80% plus, are not represented, those concerned about Gaza are not represented (beyond how to better communicate, hindwink?, them), those concerned about privatisation of public services transport, energy and water are not represented. Given the annoyance with the Labour Party and the fact 30% don't bother to vote it seems 50, 60 perhaps 70 % of people don't feel represented. People are still paying twice as much for their energy while energy companies make 62 Billion profit and the cost of living support has quietly disappeared. We are now seeing disabled people becoming the target of Austerity 2.0. People don't want lies, distraction and manipulation: they want a government that acts on delivering people's needs and holding greed and corruption to account.
@sfactory8253
29 күн бұрын
But it suits both parties so we just stagger on. Only a turnout of Less than 10% ideally or 30% according to your figures can solve this. Staying at home is the only way.
@TheMatthooks
26 күн бұрын
"are reform a.good.thimg"? No.
He got to go
The Tories are done and they know it.
there's always a hope of something better....but i think similar to the idea of kicking out our current speaker of the house, it ignores the fact that numerous previous votes did NOT produce anyone good...why would going through the same pile of laundry result in anything better...if anything the new pick will just be worse and more crazy. the pool isn't different and the criteria wouldn't have changed either... at some point you can't keep rummaging through the hamper. you have to do the laundry.
Sunak will not change anything. Keep him until General Election until Tories become ashes . Well done Labour 😅
Sunak is the only person that thinks it would be ridiculous he's done none of his promises so therefore he should go
@thecheesefactor
28 күн бұрын
At this point changing leaders is rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. The longer they wait for the GE, the lower the ship sits in the water. They may well hit another iceberg or three before November.
@Ddonawan
28 күн бұрын
@@thecheesefactor Hear that and he'll still be on a good wage anyway but I'd get Sadiq out as well personally
You can't be a Conservative party in a country that hasn't got anything left to conserve.
The Tory Kwarteng is wrong! The LP woman is right. Starmer has traditional virtues of seriousness, moderation, respect, decency and with a total commitment to the working people of this country. These qualities are something no Tory would recognise. His moderate centrist decenct respectable demeanor may not be very exciting but will always be something better than any Tory can offer.
Yeah, it would look bad having six Conservative PM's, and five, and four, and thr.......... Etcetera..
Delusion off the charts with Kwarteng 😂😂😂
more time = more by elections to lose
The natives in the UK have been driving their country down for quite some time and now it's about at a point of no return....RIP UK golden age, rough time are coming really soon..
Not calling a general election is ridiculous
Sunak - dead man walking.
Kwarteng should play Darth Vader with that voice.
Let it be spoken.
“Former Chancellor” for like 5 minutes! 😂😂😂
Great results for Independents...All 107 Councils declared...276 Independent and Resident Association Cllrs...up 104 or + 60%. A Labour majority is not inevitable.
I think corbyn was way more trustworthy and looking out for the people than starmer, who reminds me of a shady used car salesman.
If Rushi Sunak stopped working for WEF and UN and concentrate on United Kingdom he might be doing better in the polls. WEF AND UN mass immigration policy he followed, Rwanda plan Sunak never wanted Suella forced it on him and he sacked her. (ALARM BELLS )
@TheLucanicLord
28 күн бұрын
You are Ben Habib AICMFP.
The Tories are doomed. They might as well put a koala in a suit in charge, it won't matter
Loved it when they made people show Id to vote but it stopped their own votes for voting for them😂😂😂
Muslim votes are so biased towards things going on in other countries, they haven't got an interest what happens in england
@gadfly1
29 күн бұрын
Don't you mean the UK?
@britneyclears641
29 күн бұрын
@@gadfly1 it seems to be english town Muslims that have a strangle hold on votes over middle east politics
@andrewcooper103
29 күн бұрын
Perhaps muslim voters genuinly want a labour party not a centre right party named labour.The non. Muslim public would do well to demand higher standards instead of accepting poor policy like beggers .if a restaurant is serving heinz spaggetti when it used to serve italian cuisine its not the same place no matter what the sign says on the door.W eve gone from clement atlèe to keir and mandy.get some standards.labours not ready for power.
@sfactory8253
29 күн бұрын
Well it's their vote they can use it for whatever reason. At least they are working out a way round our antiquated fptp system unlike reform who are not clever enough. The lib dems could get half reforms votes and 50 seats.
@maikotter9945
28 күн бұрын
Local Elections have to be about local issues!
A case of Damned if you do, and damned if you don't. Rishi really boxed himself into a corner there...
Excellent presentation. Get someone to redo the set. Stacks of books on side tables? Ridiculous.
What does it say about this panel when Kwasi is the only person to point out the ridiculousness of calling Starmer “a man of principles” as opposed to Corbin 😂?! The characterisation was right - he’s a nimble politician, just like what the rest of the political class are hoping to be. Quite hopeless for the voters I fear….
Was about to watch this then saw Kwasi, no thanks
This kwasi was in Led by Donkeys episode isn’t?
@OakleyANDSittingBull
27 күн бұрын
obvious r*cism, too. . .
If the tories want to lose insanely badly then they should oust Rishi Sunak
@SpectacularDisaster
29 күн бұрын
That ship sailed a long time ago
@quintuscrinis8032
29 күн бұрын
Agreed, I want the Tories out as much as the next person. And yet Sunak is the only person they have that I might ever consider voting for. Get rid of him and they are done.
@silondon9010
29 күн бұрын
Not stopping the Boats has decimated the Tory vote ❎
@Lando-kx6so
29 күн бұрын
@@silondon9010 nah I'm pretty sure it was a mix of 14 years of austerity/underinvestment, party gate, liz truss, the entire Rwanda scheme, Brexit & constant scandals
@thecheesefactor
28 күн бұрын
The bigger issue is Reform. They are taking votes away and the longer the Tories delay the GE, the more votes they will lose to Tory Party 2.0.
Yes, but the best of all worlds for BRITAIN!
In 2019 Johnson was less popular than May was in 2017, he only won because people were tired of the brexit shambles and wanted it sorted and for some bizarre reason believed that he would do just that. In addition he was facing Corbyn who was very unpopular and who people believed would make a mess of running the country. So Johnson was never popular and is likely to be even more unpopular now.
You let Kwarteng, destroyer of worlds, into your studio? You’re lucky the place didn’t catch fire! Were there really no more credible guests available?!
The most idiotic thing the Tories did was to remove Johnson from office over something absolutely a minor issue that no one really freaking cared about; and after that getting such uninspiring leaders to the same office
@CBM902Q
22 күн бұрын
Lol
If you accept you can't win, then surely waiting for things to get better can work both ways. And if things get worse, what does that look like? The sooner the Tories call an election, the sooner there will be another election. Yes, things will be bad if they went in June or July but probably survivable. It seems risky to hold on for the party.
Outraged by the airbrushing out of Liberal Democrats in this debate. This is a huge lack of balance from C4. We expect more from this respected news provider. Covering the Reform threat, only, is greatly disresrespectful to the hardworking activists canvassing all over the country!!!
Kwasi should be in hiding.
@CBM902Q
22 күн бұрын
I wouldn't blame or hold him accountable. The iceberg lettuce should hold accountable. She used him as a scape goat
Sunak should go, and it would be the best thing since Chocolate
How on earth can the Tories do worse unless they lost all seats
It was mad to appoint him as P.M in the first place...well at least to some, but i think it was a really good thing, as he has definitely been instrumental in destroying the Cons / tory party so the longer he stays the better...
Conservatives caught between the rock and the hard place.
Why is no one talking about Scotland, and the fact that the breakdown of the SNP - in similar fashion to the Tories actually - is what's going to hand this GE to Labour.
@thecheesefactor
28 күн бұрын
That and the rise of Reform. Reform won't win seats, but the Tories are bleeding significant numbers of votes to them.
@brianbell3836
28 күн бұрын
The SNP leader was suspected of embezzlement. Probably should be in jail.
How bad is this
Keeping him there will be madder
Why are we still listening to Kwarteng? Memories are short it would seem.
Oh plz try to get rid of ol’ Rancid Rishi, just for the laugh ! 😂It can’t get any worse so come on give it a go think of the endless drama on the news. As a political junkie I’d love it 😂
No. It would be mad NOT to bin him. Hes a liability.
Why is kwasi there! That man should have been shamed out of public life forever!
Kwasi and numbers is not a match made in heaven.
Why is cookie monster allowed to spout his opinion?? If anyone else messed up as badly as he did he would not be allowed to speak in a pub or any public park again!!!
Sunak needs to go, Its the same story with the tories always going after the poor and disabled whilst the tax dodging businesses get left alone. Dont tell me you are giving back to the poorest when in real life you are giving with one hand and taking with the other.
Tories made the Tories impossible to vote for. Biden is up for it next!
Why don’t the Tories understand that we don’t agree with ANYTHING that they are doing! But they keep doing the wrong things in the name of their far right base. How can he expect people to like him when he keeps pandering to the far right faction. We also didn’t like Boris but they are still pushing him onto us…. WTH. What planet are they on.
Croydon ... or ... Runanda? ° A difficult question!
Fishy needs to just call an election now. He was delusional enough to think that sending one failed asylum seeker to Rwanda with 3k just before the local election would save his party 😂🤦♂️
@sfactory8253
29 күн бұрын
The longer he waits the worse it will get so patience is a virtue in this case.
I really hope we do end up with a left wing Reform. We need a group to remind Labour that they're supposed to represent the working class.
@sfactory8253
29 күн бұрын
Looks like we've got one. Cometh the hour cometh the cat !
@TheSlinq
29 күн бұрын
@@sfactory8253 I have no idea what you mean by that?
@sfactory8253
28 күн бұрын
@@TheSlinq George Galloway both man and can be a cat !
Kwasi Kwasi is one of the causes of torie's implosion
Ditching Sunk would be as ridiculous as it was to appoint him!
Speak 🗣️
I can handle this cast for about 3mins they all make me sick
A lame duck prime minister an election needs to be called and held now. Also regardless of who’s the Tory leader is they have had their day in my opinion
Sunak is roundly detested in thr country. Keeping the runt is suicide.
Replace sunak now, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.