Really solid unit. Considering the "combined arms" tactics the Empire really needs to thrive, I'm willing to bet we'll be getting a flying version of a unit similar to these guys. They're literally one of the last factions left that has no flyers.

@OffToBattle

5 ай бұрын

For actual units yeah. It's an interesting point given the clarity only just today given (if you can call it clarity), they have to find 5 units and 3 RoR's for the Empire for Thrones.

@kompatybilijny9348

5 ай бұрын

Empire on the tabletop never had any flying units except for characters though.

@OffToBattle

5 ай бұрын

@@kompatybilijny9348 I'm not surprised. Thanks for the info though.

@kompatybilijny9348

5 ай бұрын

@@OffToBattle What we could get though are Artificers on robot horses, Hochland long rifle squads, or homing pidgeons as abilities.

@OffToBattle

5 ай бұрын

@@kompatybilijny9348 I applaud the creativity.

The OG elite Cavalry and still one of the coolest units in the game. I think the extra melee stats on the lance varient makes them very underrated.

@OffToBattle

5 ай бұрын

They are, and I do understand WHY they are, but I still think they perform wonderfully in a lot of matchups. People just think they can eat the demerits and dominate vs. large matchups, and yeah, that's often true. A nice surprise for someone not expecting it though.

Could be cool if CA scaled up the models a but to make them compatable to Chaos knights in size.

@OffToBattle

5 ай бұрын

That's a thought. They should look at that.

@1YCARADOFACAO

5 ай бұрын

Funny enough demigryphs are smaller then horses

@OffToBattle

5 ай бұрын

@@1YCARADOFACAOyeah that one's weird enough I can see them tweaking it...

@1YCARADOFACAO

5 ай бұрын

@@OffToBattle No like, on the tabletop games, demigryphs are about the size off if not smaller then empire heavy calv.

@OffToBattle

5 ай бұрын

@@1YCARADOFACAO That's.. interesting...

Still one of the best anti large cav in the game. Love how you can leave them in combat to. Not the best at anything like most empire units but they still hit like a truck.

@OffToBattle

5 ай бұрын

Hitting like a truck definitely a good thing here.

Despite at default, the demigriph are kinda "lacking" as top-tier cavalry units for the Empire. What gets them going is the amount buffs you can give, especially in Immortal empire campaign. Before unlocking demigriph knights, i try to get all the buffs for cavalry units once unlocking demigriph knights these knights truly perform 🎭 and their amazing 👏 infact they're my most favorite cavalry units which btw my most favorite specific version version of demigriph knights is the halberds demigriph knights and i love thier renown version where they can cause fear and terror ❤ these knights are amazing but sadly in the current state as of 5.0 Immortal empire version they're reliant on getting those cavalry buffs

@OffToBattle

Ай бұрын

I wonder. They still seem very strong to me, they just get a lot stronger because the tech tree buffs are that substantial.

Wow 😳 they look cool I

@OffToBattle

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, they always have, very pretty unit.

Empire could use some form of Demigryph / Gryphon not just as mounts but proper units, same goes for the dismounted version of their riders

@OffToBattle

5 ай бұрын

It could use that, yes. My usual stance is "If it's not destabilizing, then it's worth a look".

@Wanderer-nw2so

2 ай бұрын

I still wonder how demigryphs and proper gryphons could be trained as war beasts if they don't do any breeding programs especially for the right of passage just even ride one they known to be very dangerous to handle unless they respect you so I don't know how you could use a group of them as monsters if they will never listen to you. And Griffin, especially like you literally have to raise them for birth just to even let them near you and they're far too valuable to be wasted on them running wild. On the battlefield, especially since they would be a grave threat to you even your own men.

People love them because of their aesthetic, but they are rarely used in multiplayer, so I wouldn't exactly call them good

@OffToBattle

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I understand that's been the meta for quite some time.

@poorpriest4549

24 күн бұрын

Multiplayer is really niche, so they are actually good.

Whenever I use Demigryph Knights they lose hp veeeery fast while doing very little damage compared to Reiksguard Knights. This makes them very problematic for me to use when I can use cheaper calvary to do much more damage with more more unit count and because of that better damage coverage. Also losing any unit in case of Demigryph Knight is a huge loss of cp compared to cheaper units (and this matters in single player too because of how 'army losses' works). Not worth bringing imo when I have soo much better tools to deal with monster size enemies while having need to delete any shotting type of enemy asap because of low armor inf core of my army.

@OffToBattle

4 ай бұрын

They're definitely not in the same state they were in their prime in TWW1. I hope to see what changes they make. If any.

@Aircastegamer

Ай бұрын

Have you been keeping track of buffs? Especially when you play as Karl Franz? Karl Franz buffs his reiksguard and great swords to make them even better!

These units did not age well- they went from top monster cavalry in the game to something on the lesser side of average. Their HP, Weapon strength, MA and especially MD, are very underwhelming. I realize that its purely the product of Empire not being updated for a while and will be addressed in the upcoming DLC. Btw, why does all Empire cavalry have 30% vs 35% block chance on their shileds? Also, their ROR versions should be improved- come on, Fear and Terror is the unique feature on Lions with Eagle beaks? Sounds like they should have that at baseline

@OffToBattle

5 ай бұрын

Good points, but to quibble, the Armor the Empire units get is highly unusual, so they (CA) probably felt the shields were enough for their purposes, and ALL of these are really shock cavalry, except (against proper targets) the halberds one, they "can" stay in melee but it's a tough sell. It's just that for a very long time using shock cavalry was really brutal. It's a little better now, but I'm not ready to say it's enough. That, and of course lack of the Brettonia mechanics to overcome these things... so, work remains for CA to do. Some have said in essence "CA can't mess up Empire or they're done". Maybe not literally but... it's a good idea not to mess Empire up. ^^

@kirillrivkin4842

5 ай бұрын

@@OffToBattle thank you for a great review.

@tomatoesofdoom

5 ай бұрын

terror is one of the strongest abilities in the game

@IVIRnathanreilly

5 ай бұрын

Power creep is sucking much joy from the game. The games just needs a full rebalance at this point. The empire is also getting doinked with their cav speed. Especially missile cav.

@OffToBattle

5 ай бұрын

@@IVIRnathanreilly We're not going to get it. We can get better balance, but you'd need the overhaul CA has been resisting for years. Having said that, I played TWWI, they're all faster. I'm not prepared to agree the speeds are way off from other factions... but I'd love a rebalance, I just don't see it happening to this degree "now".