I started with the 10 essentials nearly 40 years ago backpacking and have added and subtracted several items over the years. I’ve even multiplied several items (mostly knives and saws). Here in the PNW the rules are much different than Ohio where Dave lives. We have a trickier time with fire in very wet and cold conditions. The 10 C’s work for many because it’s easier to remember, but that’s why you make a list and check it twice like Santa. Thanks for sharing.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Dan, I appreciate that - and hope others take note! Have a list and check it twice!

@Olyphoto7

2 жыл бұрын

@@STOKERMATIC the number one item on everyone’s list should be to leave your plans with someone in case you don’t come back when expected.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

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@KevinDurette

Жыл бұрын

Here in the PNW, water can be tricky. You get so used to everything being wet with a river always nearby, but then you do another hike up the wrong mountain where there's no water in sight. My biggest complaint about the 10 C's is that "container" fails to tell half the story about collecting and purifying water. Your metal container designed to be fireproof is going to be either too small or too heavy to carry enough water on a long, dry hike.

@Olyphoto7

Жыл бұрын

@@KevinDurette very true, I’ve hiked several trails in the Summer when you pack almost a gallon of water and hope you make it to the lake to refill. Every trip is different but most are wet in the PNW.

As someone who has taken multiple courses at the Pathfinder School. I can tell you that the 10 C's aren't 10 specific items. They're 10 categories of items that are intended to be multifunctional, but you can carry additional items from each C.

I think practice and training is probably the most important, no matter what items and gear you have. being in survival situation is very hard, you're going to be uncomfortable, and miserable after a while, I like to do long distance hiking and camping so i can get use to being tired and miserable and still be able to make a fire in the rain at the end of the day lol thanks for sharing your awesome videos and sharing your knowledge with us!

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more brother! Was out this weekend sick - but it was a good experience all together.

I have 50 years experience in woodscraft ( well before "bushcraft" was even a word) I was in the ARMY as a paratrooper, and combat veteran for 10 years, and spent almost a year alone in the mountains in Alaska. I have learned and utilized the 10 essentials, 10 "C"s, the 15 critical items to carry and countless other lists. the key to EVERY list is, unless they are trying to sell specific brand items, the lists are more categories than specific things. Dave's "cutting tool" does not mean you have to choose 1 knife, or even "knife" as a tool. it is the cutting category. it encompasses a fixed blade, folder or multi tool, saw, hatchet, etc. based on how much YOU are willing to carry. each category is the same. something that pretty much every list is missing is a good quality trauma kit. a simple wound can end your life, if you blead out, or get a serious infection. that being said. the number one piece of equipment to survive in a very unfriendly environment is knowledge. you NEED to learn, train, practice, and know yourself, your gear, and how to stay alive.

Hello from Oklahoma! Good Video!👍👍 I'm stoked! This is so true. I started taking my kids into the woods, showing them, teaching. Now it's my Grandkids turns. You can't buy knowledge and experience. It doesn't weigh an ounce. And the kids have fun, sometimes they don't even realize the value of what's being taught till later. But it sticks. Thanks for all you do. God Bless!

I used to teach Wilderness survival, back in the early 80's. And I used to teach the 5 C's. Cover, Cordage, Combustion, Container, Cutting. I have since added two more. Calories, yes some kind of food. Communications, and I'm not talking a cell phone. I am talking a Whistle, Signal mirror, a bright orange signal panel, and for night, a good flashlight, with spare batteries. Now under Cover, I also include not only a tarp, but a G.I. Poncho, with Poncho liner, and a reusable reflective blanket. Cordage, your choice. Combustion, lighter, matches in a water proof container, and a ferro rod, and maybe some home made tinder. Container, yes a stainless steel single walled bottle is good, maybe add a cup it can nest in. Cutting, every one has there own take on that. Already covered communications. Calories, just take some energy bars, something that you will eat if needed, but wont snack on :) Compass, only if you have a map and you know how to use it. Look, I'm not talking long term survival in the woods. I'm talking about surviving a few nights in the woods, if your out on a hike and something goes sideways. So now you have to hunker down and either wait out some bad weather, or wait for some one to find you. So that's it for my 7 cents worth. Take care and stay safe.

I like the 10Cs philosophy and use it as a base myself. I also like to include an altoids-sized tin containing some fishing supplies and repair items. Regardless of the subject, practice is the key to developing any skill. You teach this, as does Dave and all the other 10Cs-promoting bush crafters that I watch. 🍻

I have not ventured out with just a minimal kit bag . I probably carry too much because I do not have to cover long distances for extended periods however, one valuable item in my bag is a pocket size u.s. army ranger handbook. It has been with me for over 30 years and is valuable to me as a reference and as entertainment because I enjoy reading and learning. Thanks for the thought provoking content. Stay safe and stay Stoked.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Great thoughts man!

I have always preferred to think in terms of kits to meet my needs, rather than the 10 C's, or even the "Ten Essentials" lists. Shelter/Sleeping Kit Fire Kit Water Kit Navigation Kit First Aid Kit Food Kit Signal Kit Tool/Repair Kit Some items I carry are used in more than one kit. Most kits have at least a few things that are dedicated or special purpose.

Compared to other systems, I like that the 10Cs talks a lot about multi-use items, and that repair and shelter building items are emphasised. But I'd say the 'Freedom of the Hills' "Ten Essentials" or the NASAR Consolidated Pack Guide are more generally useful, at least for mountain or forest missions.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Outstanding!

@robertedwards7749

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Kristen, can you point me in the direction for learning about the 'Freedom of the Hills' "Ten Essentials" and the NASAR Consolidated Pack Guide are, I have never heard of them. Learning different perspectives and points of view are as important as physical hands on skill building. At least I like to hear from different folks. Thank you.

@StrategicSelfRelianceDefense

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertedwards7749 it’s excessive. We train hundreds of search and rescue people yearly and this thing is ridiculous www.nasar.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/ConsolidatedPackGuide_v1.pdf

@dennisseverns4014

2 жыл бұрын

As a mountaineer and with Search and Rescue, we always stressed that people carry the Ten Essentials when traveling in the backcountry, even for just a "Day Hike" For those curious, Mountaineering, Freedom of the hills is a book on mountaineering, put out by The Mountaineers organization. Really good book for learning to travel in mountainous terrain. NASAR is the National Association for Search And Rescue and their pack guide is a recommended packing list for a 24 hour pack carried by SAR Team members.

@robertedwards7749

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Dennis, Thank you for the information and your involvement in SAR. I got involved in SAR before my time with the USAF and afterwards. I want to reconnect with a good group. The last organization I was with got corrupted by Homeland unsecurity. I know there are good people doing great work. I will look up the references you provided. Thanks again.

If you have ever read the book "The book of Camping & Woodcraft" by Horace Kephart (I think originally publish in the 1900's sometime) this will be nothing new. I.e. A good woodsman can confidently enter an unmapped wilderness with no outfit but what was carried by his horse, his canoe, or on his back with the intention of a protracted stay. That really says it all in a nutshell. I think the 10 C's is just a training tool and should not be used as a religion, even Horace's book should not be used as a religion. You need to learn from different sources and get out there a see what works in your environment. Simply put, youtube is just entertainment with some educational value. If you are solely relying on youtube content to help you, well your what we call a "10 min expert" and not what Horace describes a good woodsman.

@warlord2pfa

Ай бұрын

Well said.

Was out this weekend for a two day festival that I hitch-hiked to. Had 7 of those 10 C's, everything but the compass, cargo tape and the needle. I did take plenty of food with me, including 4 mountain house meals, jerky, granola, nuts, cliff bars, cliff blocks energy chews, emergenC and coffee. Only thing I used from the food stores was 2 packs of instant coffee and 1 pack of the cliff blocks. Being a festival, I found that the most important C to have was cash, lots of food to be found. Slept in the park those two nights using My Army Poncho and Poncho Liner, with a heat-sheet space blanket as a ground cloth. Did not take a fixed blade knife with me but won one in an auction supporting the boys and girls club, paid $90.00 for that $30.00 knife, but worth every penny. Most important thing I was glad I had was two extra pairs of socks for the hike there and back.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a great trip Dennis!

If you go back to Canterbury’s begin, as far as I can remember, he always said the 5-10c’s were the base line and that knowledge was the key! Thanks to Stoker, first for his service and secondly in bringing us a reminder of the basics. Kind regards from deepest Dorset England 🇬🇧🇺🇸

@STOKERMATIC

Жыл бұрын

Right on Clive!!

Outstanding! It's a good teaching tool to get people started so they can adapt and build on it.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

👊

An observation-- I have to say that's an incredible backpack you have. As for the content the 10 Cs are a minimal gear loadout for wilderness survival. That's all it is, nothing more. It is a reliance substructure. Whatever you build on top of it is on you. I went through the Air Force Survival school and did well. There is no conflict between the 10 Cs and what I was taught in AF survival. In the end we all want comfort and ease of living which is not part of any survival skill I know. Plentiful food, couch commander, good friends . . . not much else to ask for. Exemplary living.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Man, I’m digging it. Concur with no conflict and truth about end state.

My brother and I put together survival kits based on the old bandage box. They were about 3"x1"x4" made of tin. We practiced by going out with that, a canteen and a knife for 3 days at a time. We used things like carbide to make a fire, or alcohol pads. Always were looking for the ideal pieces for it. Like the perfect garbage bag.

@STOKERMATIC

Жыл бұрын

Outstanding!!

You recorded this video a year ago I just started to follow up with you an it is amazing great deal of important information thank you very much for explanation on everything God bless you always stay safe out there friend Lewis from Houston Texas

Sorry for this long post, but I wanted to share where I vary from the “norm.” The 10-TOOL CATEGORIES (10-TCs): COMPASS: Determine and follow a bearing. COORDINATES: Know where you are and where you want to go (compass w/map). CONTAINERS: Single-wall metal bottle to hold clean water and to collect and purify water by boiling, folding handle frying pan and pot for cooking. COMBUSTION: For cooking, water purification, heating, lighting. COVER: Clothing (protection and warmth), sleep system (warmth, protection, comfort), tarp/tent/shelter (adverse weather protection, warmth or cooling); this is about maintaining body’s core-temperature. CALORIES: Energy (food) for performance. CUTTING: Knife, axe, saw (firewood preparation, craft/make camp related items, general cutting, defense). CARE: First aid and hygiene. CORDAGE: Paracord, Bank-line, tarred plant-based rope (set up shelter, lash sticks/polls, tinder, and light). COMMUNICATIONS: Cellphone, satellite phone, GPS rescue devise, paper with pen/pencil. Additional Note: In the 21st century, we have many tools available to us today; we might want to have the best tools possible for the purpose of survival. If we do find ourselves without something, we could have the skill to make it, but time and human-energy/effort are major factors in survival: to make a shelter will take many hours and a large amount of effort/energy (plus we get sweaty and dirty, taking it out on our clothing); whereas, setting up a tarp or tent (shelter) that you brought with you takes minutes and little energy (plus one stays clean). Packing as little as possible is not an objective of survival. Time and energy are critical, and running out of either or both can be a major survival problem.

I think the 10 C's, like a lot of lists, are a good guide. Its good to start from, and will give you a leg up, but really is a baseline. I keep a variety of things in my truck, and a lot of it is multi purpose. Tape, for fixing hoses, repairing gear if needed, or as a firestarter, even first aid. I have all kinds of cordage in the truck, from bank line up to tow straps. Cutting tools-besides the few knives I keep on me, I have an ESEE in the truck, plus a razor knife, and in the bed, a 1960s west german entrenching tool, as well as a boys axe. If I know I am going where the wild things are, I take a collapsible bow saw as well. I also have a canvas tarp, that I use as a ground cloth for getting under the truck if needed, but easily could double as a shelter (and has been used as an ad hoc tarp during camping trips). I have lighters stashed all over the truck, as well as at LEAST 3 flashlights (like a lot of folks, I probably have more flashlights than a flashlight store...). Additionally, on my person, I always have a hank of 550 cord, a small flashlight, a small SAK, pen, paper, a multitool, and a belt knife. I also carry a (what we used to call) fag bag everywhere, which has a water bottle, and my "brain"-a medium sized kit with things I need normally-charging stuff for my phone, another flashlight, another multitool, etc. This goes, literally, everywhere with me. I keep a backpack in the truck, in the rare event I ever get stuck somewhere. I am in public safety, so I often have to go out in weather that isnt playing nice. Winter time I throw a sleeping bag in the truck. I have been stuck at work more than a few times, and slept in the FD bunk room in between shifts on more than one occasion. The backpack is there largely to consolidate and carry stuff into work if needed. I live rurally, but not off grid rural, so, even getting stuck somewhere, barring any life threatening situation, my best bet is to stay with the truck. Besides, its a Tacoma-they dont get stuck!!!! :)

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Some great insight shared - thanks brother. And thanks for your service to the community!

Great stuff!!!

I got into bushcraft from Dave's original Ten c's videos. I see them as being the fundamentals. My main takeaway from his courses was doing a lot with a little. Focusing on versatile items and ultimately packing more in your head, and less on your body. Added a few of my own categories such as CLEANLINESS (hygiene items), CRITICAL CARE (former EMT and i act as my bushcraft group's medic) so various medical items are usually in my pack, the big ones CONFIDENCE and CREATIVITY.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Outstanding!

@surman3853

Жыл бұрын

We’ll said

I agree with you on the gear has to be understood and practiced by the owner of the gear. One thing that "drives me up the wall and down the hall" is where some experts and Dave is included is the teaching that your knife has to be carbon steel so that if it is all you have you can strike a hard rock on the spine to make sparks that will only ignite things like char cloth. (seems like knife abuse to me) I am not on naked and afraid so my pants have pockets and a bic lighter (covered with a Exotac fire sleeve) is in one and tethered to my belt for extra security. I will never choose carbon steel over a good stainless steel such as used by morakniv or victorinox. I agree with him on most things but steel types and the firefly fero rod that replaces a swiss army knife toothpick(I finally had to tell him that I don't use toothpicks as I prefer to brush after each meal whether at home or in the woods and therefore the extra precaution of the backup fero rod makes more sense for ME to carry instead of an item that would not be used) are definitely a couple things that are not on the same page.

Great video thanks. The 10 C's is not just 10 items but rather 10 categories of different items. Like a cutting tool catagory may be a knife, saw and axe to be used in conjunction to survive and thrive. I would not rely on just one item from each category of the 10 C's as you are trying to be prepared when you go out so you can survive. You do not want to go out and put yourself into a survival situation right of the bat like the show Alone or Naked And Afraid. I like the 10 C's and always have some form of the 10 C's for every day EDC but if I go out on a trip, camp, adventure or quest I bring more then one of each 10 C's as I follow the rule of 3 is 2, 2 is 1 & 1 is none.

@bubba7626

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Like Cargo tape fire extender, first aid item as well as a repair item but other first aid items could go under that as well (repair and maint of the body). Compass (gps, phone app, maps, etc)

Hello 👋 my outdoors friend, sincere thanks for sharing this informative. All the best to you. Stay safe out there. 🤗

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

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Good point, my first time out on a hike trying to build a fire with a ferry rod it wasn’t east it had been raining an not to mention I had a hell of time settin up my tarp for shelter, absolutely need to go an practice using the 10 C’s

I can tell you right now. Take the ten cs and put a fishing kit with it. And some snare wire. And some mouse traps. And then put a 2 lbs of rice And 1 lbs of dryed beens. And 2 packs of pepperoni or summer sausage. And you good to go for a week to a year. If done right. Great video. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.

I like the philosophy of segmenting all survival gear into the two groups: one-timers versus lifetime investments. Doesn’t matter the total count of survival items, but the recognition that you can’t afford, nor want to afford the best of everything is important. Then of course getting to know how to efficiently use all those items is of paramount importance. Good stuff in this video!!

Great video,thanks

Great video and insight. I agree that with no knowledge of your gear it will let you down. At that point the most expensive version will not save you. Thanks for your input on this subject. It should help those just getting into survival/bushcraft.

I would say the answer is....... It Depends. When I was still in and a Platoon Sergeant, when we were planning field ops, what you need to bring with is 1) whatever is necessary for Life Sustainment 2) whatever is necessary to accomplish the mission to standard and 3) whatever is needed to adjust to evolving needs as most expected. Same is true now when I teach my state Firearm Safety and Hunter Education classes.... you bring with you what you need for you climate, terrain, season, conditions, expectations. And then plan for most likely worst case situation. Whether you have 100 items or just 1 critical item for a situation, you also need the mental awareness of what is going on and the skillset to take that critical 1 or 2 items and put them to effective use. As always Stoker, another great video.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate your service then and now!

You are awesome Stoker! Excellent video and content. I agree with you and many other comments that the 10C's are a strong starting point and we should learn how to get the most out of them. One will need to adjust the items they choose based on the situation. And BTW - yes the nerd in me did read all of it, You caught me... damn it. LOL.

@STOKERMATIC

Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah brother. 🥃🇺🇸

I actually trained with Dave last year he went over the 10 C's how to use them and their additional functions. I can truly and honestly say they will be vital to ones kit. However like you say and so does he. You have to know how to use them when to use them and always practice with them. They aren't there as an end all be all just a great way to start thinking outside of the box. Keep up the great work. We all appreciate the knowledge that you are teaching us.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Right on brother! Great insights right there!

I use the 10-Cs as a basis for my survival classes because they cover the basis of what is needed - at a minimum. And like you correctly stated Bill, not knowing how to use the gear makes everything harder. I'm "old school" and still prefer using a Cammenga Tritium compass, but I understand why they prefer the Suunto MC2 compass, it also has a mirror and a small magnifying lens so it is multi-funtional (and yes I use one as well).

Great insights Top! Like you said, it’s a good, basic template for say a day pack load out, but you circled back to the important part of being able to utilize the gear in multiple scenarios… example: knife usage - basic safety, sharpening, field sharpening/maintenance, practice various cuts and notches (Mors’ try stick), etc… squeezing the maximum of each tool with applied knowledge and skill. Adding and expanding to the kit is IMO necessary depending upon factors such as expected weather, duration, and location… these considerations help to flesh out the structure so to speak… and perhaps another “C” to consider…Comfort. Roughing it fine, but sometimes bringing in that one item can make the difference in relaxing in the environment. Keep up the Fire!

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

I’m all about roughing it - but I also like to enjoy a few luxuries too. Get the most from it all -

@elric68

2 жыл бұрын

@@STOKERMATIC Indeed, nothing wrong with testing the metal time to time roughing it, but I’m all about comfort if feasible… Some sort of morale enhancing item maximizing the outdoor experience goes a long way!

Many have already stated - 10Cs is a good starting point to 'train' your way up and see what works for you. I don't like that it doesn't have a 'first aid kit' as there's only so much one can do, even with skill, without certain items. It's a 'minimalist kit' that would work 'if' as Stoker states you have the skills to find water, make weapons and traps for hunting, and make a better shelter for rough weather. You can live without food for a while but you need to be able to find water. I live in the southwest not the thick woods of Ohio - priorities change. In the desert you're not running a ridgeline between trees or walking 'down the hill' for water - both are very rare!

Great video! I agree with you on everything you said

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

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Skills is the key absolutely right. Sr your right on. Its thinking ahead and moving based on preperation.👌

I look at it this way. If I didn't know how to use my gear previous to a deployment, is it really going to do me any good when I reach my FOB destination? I can equate the same thinking to the 10 c's when I have to bug out and hit the road for where ever it is I'm going.

Good video , thanks for sharing , God bless !

10 C are a great concept but a real signal mirror and quality whistle are both mandatory items for me. Getting found is part of survival.

@clivedunning4317

Жыл бұрын

You are so right about a whistle. I live in Scotland and in the 1970s a Swedish tourist was walking in Glencoe and the poor chap fell and broke his leg a couple of hundred metres from his pick up point. Basically he didn't have a whistle with him and shouted himself hoarse pretty quickly. He could see search parties setting out to look for him, but could not attract their attention. Eventually two guys returning from looking for him stumbled upon him, semi-conscious and in a bad way several days later. He was lucky he had some food and water with him and the weather was fairly benign. All because he didn't have a whistle with him. Current Scottish Mountaineering Council recommendations are to have a whistle on a lanyard attached to the outside of your rucksack, incase your arms are pinned or broken after a fall you can still access the whistle.

Hi great information. Like others have indicated its a good starting point but I do believe there are gaps as indicated. I prefer to look at essentially survival priorities and then place it in context of environment and skill. If you are in the artic you need different items than in city or jungle...ect. I think training is often overlooked and in many cases things need to become automatic...like ambush drills. Anyway great information.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, training is too often overlooked.

I think the 10c's are definitely a good starting point. It is actually what I based my initial kit on and have expanded it through trial and error.

@STOKERMATIC

Жыл бұрын

Nice!

Great video mate. I have a few problems with the ten Cs too. It's a great idea, but as with most mnemonics the content is fitted around the letters. I think the first five are great, but the next five not as much. I'd say First Aid should definitely be in there.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

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Age is a big factor. When i was young i did what ever i wanted to do. Im 62 now. Ibuprofen, eye drops, trekking poles, hearing aids, etc are things i need now dsys

I didn't know Bruce Willis had a bushcraft/survival channel.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Bruce is my doppelgänger!

The 10c's are a good basis for survival, there will never be a substitute for experience and training. I'm a Vet and I live in the Outer Hebrides of Scotland it rains all the time, it is often cold usually with a 40mph wind plus there are very few trees and my essential kit needs to reflect this but the 10c's is still relevant regardless of location. My kit on a day hike is a minimum of 15lbs, anything less is worthless. Great video because it's thought provoking and creates discussion. Oh and the Essee 4 is in my not at all humble opinion one of the finest survival knives ever made. Stay stoked Yank and thanks. 🇬🇧🏝️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Man, I appreciate you sharing that! Always good to hear from different places and experiences. It’s what hardens our spirits and determination.

@vonsprague7913

2 жыл бұрын

@@STOKERMATIC spirit and determination, the thing that stops us giving in... ever! That is the true reason why some survive and most don't. Thanks for doing what you do.

@uncletomscabin2073

Жыл бұрын

Sounds a great place to live.

@vonsprague7913

Жыл бұрын

@@uncletomscabin2073 one of the last wild places in the UK and truly beautiful buddy.

In Dave’s 2nd part of the 10 c’s he does say about the triangle of survivability that not only do you need the tools you need the materials to use those tools on and most importantly the knowledge of how to use them . I also feel to go with your knowledge you have to have a proper mind set and remain calm in order to preform said tasks . And the only way is to practice , reps become muscle memory so on . I also feel they are just the starting building blocks and should be expanded to fit the situation.

Practice, practice and practice is vital. I also carry the ten C’s plus extra in all of my trips. Also, I have been using a Silva brand compass for over two decades now and that compass is bombproof. The GI compass is too heavy, bulky and cannot do what my Silva can.

Definitely food for thought...New Ruck?...Thanks Stoker!...woods

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed! Larger Kifaru.

@MTwoodsrunnerPrimitiveSkill

2 жыл бұрын

@@STOKERMATIC Saweet!

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

@@MTwoodsrunnerPrimitiveSkill website should launch this week - still gotta tweak and continue to improve it but it’s about ready. Was thinking $8 for the patch including shipping. That sound reasonable?

I think most peoples has confuse things. In medicine we used a lot of mnemonic. Their purpose is to remind you of something not replace your training. That’s how i see the 10c. It’s there to facilitate our training and help with memory but not replace logic. Why bring only a bandanna to “improvised “ a first aid kit when you can have an actual one. Improvisation is good “in case of” but we shouldn’t put ourself in a situation when it become the rule, just because.

The 10 C's are more than essentials. Older bushcrafters only had the 5. cutting, combustion, cover, containers, and cordage. Lol.

Hi from 🇨🇦 Good video, Getting your hands dirty is key I had a conversation with a friend last year, he came out with me for the day he watched a lot of YT videos, but it wasn’t till after getting out there, I walked him through a Flint & Steel fire he had “ seen it done “ so he knew how to do it but never did it himself. He discovered pretty quick that shiny little tin Carry’s no value till it has been scuffed up dented and burned .

@STOKERMATIC

Жыл бұрын

Man I get that! Glad you were able to spend time with him!!

I'm diggin the new intro

Good Information Sir

Gotta get out there and practice for sure. Keep tuning your skills.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

We all need more of that!

Dave Canterbury really does it ALL with just his beard !

Brother I've been preaching this to a couple friends of mine forever. They've got the gear but don't know how to use half of it. Are your patches for sale? I want one for the front and back of my hat's.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Soon! So soon!! 👊🇺🇸

For flashlight long term would be for me would be a natural torch and always having dry materials/entertainment for unlimited resources.

Great video. You need an Ace bandege. A poncho with poncho liner fishing kit snare wire. A 2 pound bag of rice and beans. Save the best for last. The proper clothing. Don't forget the leather gloves and a hat. As long as you can get a fire. You can get down in temperature. Will it suck yes will it keeps you a live yes. But it depends on the situation that your facing. Med kit. And a folding saw. Will come in handy. For the love of God. Don't forget your space blanket. And a whistle. God bless from Glenn CATT in Massachusetts. Do we need all this stuff. Hell no. We just like to be comfortable. What we do need is shelter fire water food first aid. The 5and 10 C's is a good start. Better to have it than not have it.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Better to have it indeed!

We have mobed away from actual what to do for what to get for survival, i have all 10 c’s but like your saying we need to focis more on doing then watching or buying ! Good vid!!!

@gregb.8280

Жыл бұрын

Moved, focus! Fat thumbs sorry lol

Like the XL Ferro rod with the Fatwood handle. Enough tinder and spark there to last a good long while.

Dave Canterbury set the foundations for us to build on, nothing wrong with discussing what we all like.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

👊

Fist off I really like what you said and how you laid it out as you explained everything. Like you said I also understand why Dave came up with the 5.10 C's and I also understand why you find fault with them. They can become a "Crutch." I fall somewhere in the middle. I never learned anything do with survival when I was active duty. Since I was not in flight I didn't I didn't need that kind of training. I had a job and that was it. Growing up I was not in the scouts or other youth groups where even a hint of this was taught. It wasn't until just two decades ago that I began to understand the need to learn and develop skills so when the Peanut Butter Hits the Fan I could reasonably care for myself. As you said tools of any kind are only as good as you have learned to use them. Otherwise, as you hinted at, they can turn against you and reduce your chance of surviving. The internet is not the best place to learn. a Full blown class is a better bet. It cost money though where the military will teach it to you for free per your job and skill requirements. Because you need to know this stuff. A civilian may pass on the class and learn a bit on their own. Unwittingly they may learn wrong and be a bigger danger to themself and not know it. The military won't let you loose until they know you can do it. So Dave's purpose was to give a civi a place to start with. This is a good thing. The bad is a civi may get locked into or in a mind set that could become deadly. Some say a glock or a sig is best. some say a rambo knife is best others a swiss army knife. In both cases unless you become skilled in their use. You more than likely will die from having them. A guns worth is limited to YOUR knowledge, skill and how much ammo you can carry. Then it becomes a glorified club. How many times have we heard that a person was found who passed away but he had everything he needed to survive? Knowing local plants (not in the 5 C's) knowing raw materials for fire, shelter, making tools, This person had everything they needed to walk out alive yet he didn't. The 5. 10 C's won't teach you these skills. They can help reduce effort and improve quality of life. Based on the persons knowledge base, skill and practice level. I know what I wanted to say, I hope I said it well enough you could understand what I was getting at.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Man, you right! Preconceptions and knowledge (or lack thereof) are Murphy’s best friends!

@robertedwards7749

2 жыл бұрын

Murphy has been busy all my life but it feels to me like the past two decades he has been putting in a lot of over time.

Awesome video.

yes, training and skills are needed for any equipment you're operating with.

When I lived in the mountains of western North Carolina, my sons and I would go out overnight (sometimes 2 nights) on what we called a “Survival Kit Campout”. We would jus have our knife kit and whatever we were wearing. Makes you think about your edc a whole lot.

@STOKERMATIC

Жыл бұрын

Truth!

You’re right there Top. Gotta know how to use stuff for lots of stuff. The 5 p’s comes to mind. That’s why I really dig your videos. Thanks man.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate that Top! We need to drink a beer together!

Excellent tutorial Stokerman. You made a great point, each item carried should have more than a single purpose, being item specific, one would need a wheelbarrow to carry your crap around, not good, was the 10 C's sufficient enough?, not by a longshot, but its a start. Food harvesting and prepping needs to be addressed but, its not 100% necessary being we can live without food longer than without water. Like you stated, the 10c's used for a specific situation may not be suitable for other situations. Great subject Stokerman, a shit ton of variables involved here, so be open minded when prepping for your next trip out!!! 🇺🇸✌🍻

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah brother.

My 10 C's is 26 C's and can use each one for more than 1 use . It's about 40 lbs but I'm good with that.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Right on!

Dave said in his video that the 10’C are only the basics that you build from. Yes, as with anything else, training and practice are always essential just as with owning a gun where training is optional but should be highly recommended but also being able to plug those holes aka trauma care. You can lead a horse to the water grounds aka recommendation on the 10’c but you cannot force the horse to drink aka train and practice using those 10’Cs.

I don’t even feel like watching this video. He says time and time again it’s not just “10 items” but 10 categories. There’s a huge difference those 2 phrases. But all in all, Dave is very knowledgeable and respected. But I’ll watch this anyways.

Awesome video. Thank you for the thought provoking suggestions.

I added to the original 10 Cs a few years ago. I'll share them for what it's worth. Combat(pistol), catching(snarewire/ fishingkit) Cell (phone) Cash, Charger(anker). Cutter(repellent) coffee!!!!

@STOKERMATIC

Жыл бұрын

Can’t forget those!

I didn't read the other comments. I think you neglected the reason Canterbury came up with the 10c.s. He started not to build a kit but to see what items were in historical kits. He realized that there were similarities in outdoorsman's kit even though said people lived in different environments and sometimes hundreds of years apart. Then he began to think of the relevance for outdoorsman today. At that point he decided to "put a handle " on the items for categorization. In no matter of definite importance he summed up the items that would be the hardest to create/duplicate in the wild. Skills with said items was a given...the people researched carried them already. He didn't pick them...he just noticed that there were more similarities than differences. His words not mine.

I believe I represent that 'knife guy with hundreds of knives' LOL!. Great Video! Of course!

@STOKERMATIC

Жыл бұрын

😂🤣 outstanding!

I like DC's 5 and 10 C's concept. Seeing everything all spelled out like that went a long way to illustrating what and why I was doing what I was already doing. I just dont like that every category starts with the letter "C". It makes it too confusing to me. An acronym with a different letter for each category of gear makes it less confusing. My other thought has to do with the balance between multi use items, and the classic Mechanics philosophy that you need the right tool for the job. For example, you CAN boil water in a plastic ice mountain jug. Also, you can carry water because it has a lid that seals. HOWEVER, the right tool for the job would be to use a 2qt stainless steel cook pot. Then keep the ice mountain jug to carry the water only.

I see you you're doing Sean Kelly's modified truckers hitch cover system

We did a trip up in Ontario, one the guys brought almost nothing. Everything for 10 days on the water was in a day pack with room to spare. Granted he knew there was group gear. That he would eat out of and sleep in. He had a knife A cup Spoon A water bottle Sleeping bag Toilet paper Matches Bug dope. Mini mag. Map and compass Rain gear Group had stoves,food, tents. When he came out of the bush , with us. He was dirty and stunk. But his day bag was less than 20 pounds. For 50 miles over 10 days. This is way before cantabury, his view is what he needed versus what you want.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Bet that was a helluva trip. Thanks for sharing that.

The more skills you master, the less gear you need to haul around.

Good video. 10 items is not enought for many people. But if person is high skilled, then it can be enough. Summer time in good weather conditions couple of items is enough but when temperature dropping down or raining, then game change. In winter time person needs a lot of more gears and backpack's weight is easily 3-4x what it weights in summertime.

@STOKERMATIC

Жыл бұрын

So true!!

Yeah, Dave has tons of skill videos on his channel. I dont think anyone would say that you just have these items and your good, you have to practice with them. I mean, you could have a 4 wheeler, a full fishing kit, a webber grill, shotgun, a tent, gps ect ect, if you dont know how to use these items and practice using them, it really doesnt matter.

I prefer the rule of 3s. easier to remember. more practical, and easy to adapt to your climate, terrain, and situation. I can never remember the 10C beyond maybe 3-4 terms. Better to focus on what things are going to kill you and how to deal with each.

Another great video. Just me personally, I would absolutely lose my mind in the Florida scrub and swamps if I didn't have mosquito repellent. Where I live you even need just to work outside.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

I feel ya brother!!

I can see the majority of the items being good for immediate emergency situations. While in someone mind, they say that's good, I can go a week off that stuff. While other would be like I would be doing good to make it a day or two. I see that as not necessarily as long term or short term survival but more of short term essentials. As long as you have more than that available with you, your golden as we say. That's all season stuff but if that's all you have in the winter your done, not surviving much especially at night. Trying to look at these items with a open mind and broad range of possibilities.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

I dig it!

I look at the 10 c's as being a good solid way to start. You have all of your basics at hand. That being said, you have to look at the environment you are in and make adjustments from there. What works in New Mexico may not be the best thing to use in Oregon. Adapt, improvise, overcome. Learn what works best for the environment you are going to be in.

Yes skills are VERY important & Dave Canterbury said that. But he always so says these are 10 Categories not 10 Things. He also says that if necessary, it's good to carry a medical kit. Tailored to the individual.

One of the stated purposes of the 10 C's is to have some gear on hand for a "72 hour scenario," which is commonly the "lost hiker" or "injured hiker" situation. Through that lens, the 10 C's are flawed in several ways. For better and worse, the 10 C's and the "Ten Essentials" are the two dominant sources of information for helping people understand the gear they need to be taking into the great outdoors. The 10 C's assume a high level of prior training and skill. This is not a bad thing...until you assume that everyone who has heard of the 10 C's has that level of training. That everyone does not arrive to a Basic Class with all those skills already mastered speaks to the faulty nature of that assumption. These skills are also perishable - continuous practice is needed to maintain proficiency with the range of skills needed to take advantage of the multi-functional nature of the 10 C's. The lack of a more comprehensive "Care Kit" or FAK is an obvious oversight. Yes, many of the multi-functional items that are commonly carried as part of the 10 C's can be used for First Aid. Most items that can be used in multiple ways are still limited to "one use at a time." A cotton cloth that is covering a sucking chest wound is not available to pre-filter water collected from a muddy stream. The Pathfinder Instructors carry dedicated FAKs and tourniquets (often two at a time) to handle emergencies during the classes. While improvisation is a handy skill, in emergencies having dedicated tools can save seconds when seconds matter. There is also no way to multi-function the 10 C's into pharmaceuticals. Having antihistamines, antidiarrheals, clotting agents, epipens, and even NSIADS with caffeine can make a world of difference in your ability to function while under stress. Take away caffeine and nicotine from the right person for 48 hours, and you have added a LOT of stress to them and everyone around them. Add diarrhea to a situation with limited potable water, and you are in a world of hurt. Severe dehydration can kill you as fast as exposure. The 10 C's require fire to make potable water. Boiling will certainly make water potable. But, given the range of skills among people who know about the 10 C's, fire is not guaranteed. Most Pathfinder Instructors carry a dedicated water filter, the Grayl brand is popular option. Cody Lundin recommends a chemical water treatment in a survival kit, in part because he does not assume that fire can be made. Water is of such importance that it deserves to have a C all it's own, and not being dependent on making fire. Not recommending a water filter or chemical water treatment is almost malpractice for any modern survival instructor. The focus on "Communication" devices - dedicated signaling components - is another gross oversight. Yes, there are multi-functional uses of some other items like the mirror on a compass, or having some other item be brightly colored. Videos from Pathfinder classes show an overwhelming number of green cover elements, even when orange is an option - the bulk of students arrive to class without a large brightly colored item to use as a signal. Being easily found is a HUGE advantage in a 72 hour scenario. A dedicated signal mirror with a sighting hole is MUCH easier to aim when you are under stress and have a few seconds to flash a passing aircraft. A whistle can call out much further than your voice for a fraction of the effort. A chemlight on a short string can be swung to create a buzz-saw signal that is very visible at night. A Garmin In-Reach would render every "lost hiker" story I have read into an almost non-event. Communication is life, and deserves more emphasis than "...some other multi-functional item can do this...unless you pick the green one..." The 10 C's have been broken down into the two groups of 5 C's - with some indication that the first 5 C's are more critical than the second. To that end - replace the cotton cloth, cargo tape, or the canvas needle with a Care kit, Chemical water treatment, and a Communication device. The C's removed can be moved to the next 5 C's #11-15 on the list of priorities. These changes would address my main critiques, and I think improve the 10 C's in terms of the stated purpose of "useful stuff for a 72 hour scenario." These changes will also LOWER the general skill level required to effectively use these items in a 72 hour scenario to provide immediate aid to injuries, secure potable water, and attract attention and rescuers.

Brother.. Firstly.. a huge THANK U for your service to this Country ..! I have NOT watched other videos of yours..but, I also have a "sneaking suspicion" U are a FELLOW U. S. Marine..! I really appreciate U doing these types of videos. Much love, and respect..! Seriously.. keep that in mind w what follows. #1: Dave Canterbury has NEVER.. EVER said to carry 10 individual items in a 10c kit. He has ALWAYS said it is a "category" of items. He also, has ALWAYS preached a redundancy of some categories. EX: axe, knife, saw = cutting #2: DC has always said to practice / hone your skills.. even using the term.. "dirt time". Has spoke of doing many tasks 100 or more times b4 U can say U "Own" a skill. So, he has never said "just having" these items will save your life. He has also spoke of psychological preparedness.. the will. It is this entire 2nd point here..that cancels out the validity of this particular video. #3: Closing There is ABSOLUTELY NO problem w the 10 C's of survivability. The only "problem" is.. "rhetorical me". If "I" do not heed the knowledge. That basic knowledge, is start / select the right gear. Put the "dirt time" in, and then practice till U think U've mastered it.. then practice more. I truly hope U don't think I've dealt w U harshly. I just couldn't sit back, w/o offering up correction to the whole self reliance community, a very different mindset of what Dave C. actually does say. I truly do respect U, I thank U for your video. And I now plan to watch some more of them. Happy Self Reliance !

@STOKERMATIC

6 ай бұрын

Semper Fi brother. I actually hope to address this better in my next video.

@shanefox5636

6 ай бұрын

@@STOKERMATIC Semper Fi Brother.. I knew U was a sneaky, mud eater.. Ooh-Rahh Devil Dog..!

Don't mess with Canterbury, man!!

stoked !

Definitely food for thought

I think that if you caan pack a ruck with the 10 c's you can also pack a few beef sticks and spam cans, or maybe some oats you can make without a heat signuature or fire. I like dry rations and peanut butter in a ziplock! just my .02

Dah! I give you a pair of Scissors , a sewing Machine, and an needle with thread, are you able to make a suit? No. You need a course that will teach you. To your question, yes. it's enough to survive for 24 hrs and maybe 72hrs until you'll be rescued. Remember, when you're lost in the woods, you are not vacationing. I had a friend that wasted an entire box of 250 matches, and wasn't able to light a fire. He wasn't even lost. His girlfriend got the fire going. In conclusion, you need be instructed on how to use the 10Cs, nobody is born with that knowledge. I have an entire library that taught me the art of Survival. And, a backyard to practice those skills

You change your backpack! Is that a Gnargali? Great channel!

@STOKERMATIC

Жыл бұрын

I still have my eastern ruck, but when my car was broken into, my larger pack was stolen and I needed to replace it. Kifaru did a great job supporting my platoon on my last deployment, so they’ve earned a customer for life from me. A Gnargali indeed. Love it!

@swaspc7618

Жыл бұрын

@@STOKERMATIC I'm sorry to hear about the robbery. I am in the market, looking for a versatile backpack that will serve me in summer and winter (Northern Europe) from one night to a week. I want to get one with a frame. I never had one, and I think it could help increase the ported volume when I need it on extended days or at lower temperatures. I like a rolltop backpack, especially the ones cinched down, but there aren't many on the market. Eberlestock has one, but I already had an Eberlestock pack, and I would like to try another brand. I think I will choose a rolltop from EXO (K3 3200 54L) or a Kifaru. The Gnargali look awesome but may be a bit big at its minimum volume (72L ). I don't know if Kifaru has a smaller rolltop. By the way, do you have a review of Gnargali? I also like the Stryker XL and Hellbender, even though they are short on volume and not rolltop. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for your channel!

@STOKERMATIC

Жыл бұрын

@@swaspc7618 well - I can highly recommend ANY pack that Kifaru makes. Solid products. Haven’t done a review on it yet - but it’s coming. It’s definitely large enough to pack for an expedition. But I have also found that when o don’t have a lot in it, it cinches up well. So I haven’t used my smaller Eastern Ruck (Kifaru doesn’t offer that anymore unfortunately) as much.

@swaspc7618

Жыл бұрын

@@STOKERMATIC Are almost no info on the Gnargali, so I'm looking forward to that review! Let's see how it cinches when is half empty! You got a new subscriber!

I would say commonsense. Basic use of skills can go a long way, but if you doubt your abilities and haven't even tried them, stress and fear in pitch darkness could consume you and put you at more risk, so I wouldn't recommend going out into a forest area alone and start wondering around until you have confidence in your self and know how to plan before steeping out would be my best advice.

I see you polished off your Esse as well.

As far as the 10 C's, I see their usefulness for someone who is new to the outdoors and as a good way to get them to think about outdoor preparation. Now Personally, its to much and if you learn the six basic areas of survival (shelter, fire, water, food, first aid, land navigation) you will be just fine. We have to remember that survival or bushcrafting is personal and guided by our everyday environment or the environment we put ourselves in. But the basics six areas of survival NEVER change no matter what environment we find ourselves in. A Couple of things I like to remember when I K.I.S.S (keep it simple silly). 1. The best equipment you have is what you have on you and what you pack with you. 2. P = plenty and everything you have on you or pack with you is a P. You can't plan for every scenario and you can't take every piece of gear with you. So What truly matters, building your skills in the six basic areas of survival. Everything else is just gravy.

Two things I see with the 10 C's. might be my misunderstanding. First is clothes. I don't see anyone surviving when walking around naked. I think cavemen made wraps first, along with fire, to see to make the wraps. Maybe the first 'C' covering is clothes, because it covers you. In that case clothes should be at least mentioned as covering. Second is food and water. I understand the concept that both are available in nature. My thought is 'at least' thr first 24-48 hours, (day or two) in any situation neither are instantly available. Even fish take time to catch. Then what if you go few hours without catching anything?? Same with water. We can get water, but then need boiling time, then several hours cooling down. Also need good "quantity" of water, 3-4 cups of water right away in a survival situation isn't enough. Keep in mind, in a real survival situation we will be eating and drinking more to stay fit enough to do other things necessary for survival. Even to catch/hunt food, and purify water, that's where knowledge and skills come in. Any thoughts? Am I somewhat on target, or totally off my rocker? Maybe you can help straighten some thoughts out??

@STOKERMATIC

Жыл бұрын

Your on the right track brother, as far as I can tel! Gotta think about and play the long game (next fire, meal, drink, etc)

In the 60’s and 70’s the list was called the 10 essentials.

@STOKERMATIC

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes I feel, we could do much better if we listened more to those who have learned the lessons we are trying to learn ourselves.