Are Cycling Training Videos a Waste of Time? | The NERO Show Ep.35

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Cycling training content on KZread is one of the biggest and most popular forms, but is it useful?
Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:21 Cycling Coach Pet Peeves
10:40 Training Content On KZread: Who Is Watching?
24:10 Oompa Loompa Cycling (Singapore)
32:00 Quick Fire Round
39:00 Magene Power Meter Video
43:33 What Did We Learn from China Cycling?
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  • @DylanJohnsonCycling
    @DylanJohnsonCycling Жыл бұрын

    My next video: go from joe blow off the street to cycling training expert in 5 minutes!

  • @tanguiflyer

    @tanguiflyer

    Жыл бұрын

    *Reverses hat*

  • @benthilwind6908

    @benthilwind6908

    Жыл бұрын

    Was gonna mention you in a comment 😂😂, love the data based stuff of yours bro looking forward to your unbound post race vid. Good luck for the whole series 👍 🙌

  • @s-ultracycling

    @s-ultracycling

    Жыл бұрын

    😂❤

  • @ChrisMillerCycling

    @ChrisMillerCycling

    Жыл бұрын

    Episode 1 : A deep dive into torque efficiency and its relation to blood lactate 😂😂

  • @universalsprout

    @universalsprout

    Жыл бұрын

    What would you tell them in the other 4m55s after you discuss hat orientation?

  • @OompaLoompaCycling
    @OompaLoompaCycling Жыл бұрын

    Thanks guys for the coverage! This is so wholesome ❤would love to be be on your show 😬😬😬

  • @zzgamingyt7228

    @zzgamingyt7228

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh damn... I'm in the video(Merida Guy)... Maybe you're right I do like the harsh feel. But after breaking 2 carbon frames and a hole in the wallet I would always go for a slightly heavier bike coz I believe it has more material. It's just me and my weirdness with carbon frames. 😊

  • @Frandaman84

    @Frandaman84

    Жыл бұрын

    I assume the more typical rider relates more to Oompas guests and topics, I care about speed and whatnot but the fun aspect is overlooked, and if I didn’t like how my bike looked I would ride it less

  • @mariusilerd9581

    @mariusilerd9581

    Жыл бұрын

    Merida guy looks strong AF too

  • @guantisengkun4342

    @guantisengkun4342

    6 ай бұрын

    Im everywhere stalking you bro..

  • @guantisengkun4342

    @guantisengkun4342

    6 ай бұрын

    I think they are addressing Oompa Loompa not u bro @@zzgamingyt7228

  • @LanterneRougeCycling
    @LanterneRougeCycling Жыл бұрын

    Honestly for serious training stuff I have to consume it in book or at least written form. Especially when you are talking about power zones, lactate thresholds etc etc The cyclist's training bible from friel takes longer to read than watching a KZread video but you will really understand the basics after reading it. I am getting into mountain running more seriously and the first thing I did was read Training for the Uphill Athlete by Jornet and others

  • @87knightsfan
    @87knightsfan Жыл бұрын

    Jessie's 40 odd minute video, how he got back into shape & trained for an upcoming race from a couple of months ago, is in my opinion, one of the best ways to approach those videos.

  • @Hambini
    @Hambini Жыл бұрын

    To play devil's advocate here, if you take the western brands and their method of "advertising". They pay to take a load of journalists to an exotic location so they can film the next aero bike etc. If they launch into a scathing review, they won't be invited to the next one. I think the days of GCNs paid promotions are dead but I don't know what is going to replace them.

  • @SPLSE

    @SPLSE

    Жыл бұрын

    This space has an opportunity to reinvent the business model. Yet has dug itself deeper with promo code and referral link product overviews turning the creators into independent sales reps receiving commissions. Different sides of the same coin.

  • @n.eilo_rides
    @n.eilo_rides Жыл бұрын

    I think you guys have found your niche now. Question everything, make people think and putting a stick in a few people's front wheel to keep them honest. Great work

  • @BenjiNaesenTV
    @BenjiNaesenTV Жыл бұрын

    Lovely podcast once again! From the perspective a person that makes training-related content, I guess my aim in doing so is to entertain and inspire while actively avoiding "giving advice" as I clearly lack the knowledge to do so.

  • @glennicol1361
    @glennicol1361 Жыл бұрын

    If you go to any specialty cafe in Singapore on the weekend... It is crazy how many super high end bikes are sitting outside.

  • @ianboltron
    @ianboltron Жыл бұрын

    I ride tons of gravel and always descend in the drops. Flying down loose washboard at 60kph+ on the hoods is terrifying because it feels like you're going to get bucked off. That is completely mitigated by riding in the drops. I do find it funny that the extreme flares on gravel and adventure bars are touted as giving the rider more control while descending but if you actually hold the handlebars at the widest point you no longer have access to the brakes....

  • @ianburke2490

    @ianburke2490

    Жыл бұрын

    100%. Have to be in the drops to have any control, usually really far up into the crease so the brakes are easier to reach with one finger. I think Chris's "weight back" style is very old school and the opposite of how you should be riding off road. So I think he's spot on, totally don't get the point of the flares, just for the reason you state not the one he did, I'll never find myself all the way out on those flares while descending.

  • @DeeAreFresh

    @DeeAreFresh

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ianburke2490 descending in the drops on gravel is def. the play, I wouldn’t expect them to know that if gravel isn’t their thing. I thought it was a pretty widely accepted idea that the flares are more comfortable for some people? Changing the wrist angle

  • @ianburke2490

    @ianburke2490

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DeeAreFresh I hadn't thought of that, makes sense though, a turned out wrist angle feels like it might put you in a stronger push-up type position, less strain on the wrists and firearms that can get absolutely gassed on long descents.

  • @joris818

    @joris818

    Жыл бұрын

    Also for pure road riding, a very narrow handlebar is great for being aero on the hoods (in the hoods with elbows low is faster then holding the drops) but you want wider drops for additional control when full on sprinting.

  • @ironore8677
    @ironore8677 Жыл бұрын

    Funny how I’d rather listen to you two talk for an hour then watch a 10 min gcn video and I used to love watching them.

  • @ChrisMillerCycling

    @ChrisMillerCycling

    Жыл бұрын

    ❤️

  • @tomjones2189
    @tomjones2189 Жыл бұрын

    Very specific example for you on training videos - Cam Nicholls' video on how to do, and the merits of, hill repeats. I would never have considered anything like that before watching that video (and I have performance goals and am training towards them). I watched that video, and am now convinced I need hill repeats in my weekly routine. I scoured my local area on Strava, found a good hill (according to Cam's specifications that he provides in the video), and am now doing repeats once a week. I've even identified a tougher hill to progress to when I conquer this one. That single training video had a huge impact on me.

  • @Bicyclechris
    @Bicyclechris Жыл бұрын

    The Dylan Johnson video’s definitely helped me fine tune my training plan in certain ways, but it wasn’t until I did a deep dive through a Joe Friel book and read it twice, that Inwas able to structure my own training plan through TrainingPeaks. Most people don’t follow through, because they don’t have the discipline to even get through the mundane things a zone 2 endurance ride without chasing down some dude on a e-bike. BTW, I dialed in my HR zones as a first step via the Karvonen method which I heard about through a Triathlon Tarim video. :)

  • @eto2352
    @eto2352 Жыл бұрын

    Oompa Loompa is great! It seems like most are covid cyclist, so huge enthusiasm and relatively new to cycling. Agree, very interesting stories and people he has on there. Really brilliant content!

  • @Eramsay121

    @Eramsay121

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm way down the rabbit hole on Oompa Loompa now, that channel is amazing.

  • @OompaLoompaCycling

    @OompaLoompaCycling

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks ❤

  • @Sign_Hero
    @Sign_Hero Жыл бұрын

    Love Oompa Loompa Cycling Show! One of my top 5 favourite cycling KZreadrs😊👍

  • @OompaLoompaCycling

    @OompaLoompaCycling

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks bud

  • @Sign_Hero

    @Sign_Hero

    Жыл бұрын

    @Oompa Loompa Cycling pleasure, mate🙏

  • @jackswift12
    @jackswift12 Жыл бұрын

    Love Jesse's approach/description of his training videos. Great place to be on KZread

  • @alexharris222
    @alexharris222 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve always had issues with cramp in my toes, f’ing horrible. Definitely all over “a grudge is somewhere to park your car” Tony Greig - 12th Man

  • @williambob111
    @williambob111 Жыл бұрын

    You guys need to get Dylan and BHD on the show!

  • @discbrakefan

    @discbrakefan

    Жыл бұрын

    BHD for sure!

  • @williambob111

    @williambob111

    Жыл бұрын

    @@discbrakefan BHD cracks me up!

  • @stevenevangelista5853
    @stevenevangelista5853 Жыл бұрын

    Jesse’s 5x5 video still is one of my favorite training video on cycling training on youtube!

  • @brandoncox7672
    @brandoncox7672 Жыл бұрын

    You guys are by far my favorite cycling show, just love the banger and rapport between you guys! Cheers!

  • @ChrisMillerCycling

    @ChrisMillerCycling

    Жыл бұрын

    ❤️

  • @matthewbenger8355
    @matthewbenger8355 Жыл бұрын

    The video with Joe was brilliant. Also got it sent onto my mates who dont nornally listen to you boys, so great way to get people into your content. Hope it blows up!

  • @messi9991
    @messi9991 Жыл бұрын

    Wait what another one? I swear it feels like yesterday I watched the China Cycling interview. Awesome stuff!

  • @billybrentz
    @billybrentz Жыл бұрын

    Hadn't heard of Oompa Loompa before this .. love it .. Having lived in Singapore for 10 years - for sure its 100% froth - its the same thee with regards cars, clothes, handbags, shoes, watches ... not wrong just different .... and i agree - if you like something because it looks good then great - its not always a flex. Great work guys !

  • @OompaLoompaCycling

    @OompaLoompaCycling

    Жыл бұрын

    Bill u gotta come on my show!

  • @pjbeattie1
    @pjbeattie1 Жыл бұрын

    Flare drops is for extra control on sketch descents. The flare gets your hands in a wider position much like a mountain bike bar, but obviously not quite as wide, although some are pushing up on that!!

  • @imleesh
    @imleesh Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant and such a pleasant surprise to see Oompa Loompa Cycling featured. I went down the rabbit hole of the Oompa Loompa channel a while back. Enjoyed his latest episode featuring a Singapore national cyclist.

  • @OompaLoompaCycling

    @OompaLoompaCycling

    Жыл бұрын

    🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @Nick_007ia
    @Nick_007ia Жыл бұрын

    Definitely an entertaining videos about how a person had train and how that training got him to his goal, especially if someone is winning races or is up there to compete in a good level

  • @OnyxTortoise
    @OnyxTortoise Жыл бұрын

    love the show: here are a few topic ideas that would be interesting to me 1. Interview a few old guys (50+) who love cycling... what does a lifelong cyclists' trajectory in the sport look like? 2. How can we get more kids/high schoolers into the sport? Do kids even like road cycling? 3. Does bike cost inflation inhibit the growth of cycling? i.e. needing an expensive disc. brake bike to be a member of the community. 4. Are there any new/novel race formats that we should consider? 5. How could coverage of pro-races be improved? 6. What are the best rim brake all around bikes (pre-disc). How much better are direct mount brakes? 7. When I train, should I ever focus on climbing while out of the saddle?

  • @jimjam218
    @jimjam218 Жыл бұрын

    I really like the longer training videos that explain the phase they're intended for and physiological changes they're trying to improve. I find the 'top tips' videos click baity and often recycled every 4 months or so.

  • @SWAGolfChannel
    @SWAGolfChannel Жыл бұрын

    I axctuqlly reckon Jesse's training content always lands well. Very interested in his take on it. The video on his prep for nationals was particularly great

  • @michaelbradbrook9575
    @michaelbradbrook9575 Жыл бұрын

    "I cramped on the climb" is the "dog ate my homework" excuse for cyclists 😁 Also, shout out to the 12th Man!

  • @Youtubefana
    @Youtubefana Жыл бұрын

    Maybe next video if you can cover the road cc video on aero benefits of deep wheels? (Or lack of). Would be interesting to get your take. Cheers.

  • @Korious
    @Korious Жыл бұрын

    Hey Jesse, Thanks for touching on my comment from last time. You make a good point, if you spend a lot of time in the drops then narrower would be better. I guess some wind tunnel testing shows that the flat back aero hoods position is faster overall, where as extending your arms down to the drops increases frontal area and is slower than aero hoods. My preference as a casual rider and a peanut gallery spectator is that I like narrower hoods and the flared drops, you keep the stability of wider drops but get the more aero position on the hoods. But yeah, as I said earlier you make a good point.

  • @neilmckenna236
    @neilmckenna236 Жыл бұрын

    Love it guys, enjoyed as always 🙌👍

  • @dave12059
    @dave12059 Жыл бұрын

    Why I watch, sometimes for information, sometimes to see if I’m doing it correctly in these modern times of everybody has a plan, and they are always going back and forth. But sometimes for entertainment for I find listening to the same training info better then the stuff on tv. Yes I do find some shows a waste of time, and others hitting a home run on the detail and information I’m interested in. Your show included.

  • @jyalpert
    @jyalpert Жыл бұрын

    Me last year: “I cramped at 90 minutes into this 3 hour race, we need to work on my cramp resistance” My coach: “um you did the exact same pace in the first 90 minutes of this race as you did in the full 90 minutes of the XCO race you did last month. You went too hard.”

  • @catfishburglar
    @catfishburglar Жыл бұрын

    The other reason why EJ probably doesn't include details on his training is that he's following the Masterclass plan that Jeff is selling. So by giving detailed insight into the training plan it devalues the Masterclass.

  • @jeronimosuarez7957
    @jeronimosuarez7957 Жыл бұрын

    Hahaha! Ramping up the cramping! Cycling is a great endeavour to mingle with our egos. Perfect for confusion, materialism and fullishness. I selfcoach and enjoy your angle and experience.

  • @benthilwind6908
    @benthilwind6908 Жыл бұрын

    Great vid lads, yeah same questions about frames . Especially the chinarellos ...

  • @chrisjie2127
    @chrisjie2127 Жыл бұрын

    A lot of it is culture. People in Asia are not judged or feel they have to justify why they spend their own money on things. Australia is so bad that they had to coin their own term "tall poppy syndrome" or the culture is far more judgemental / worrying about what others do or think.

  • @ChrisMillerCycling

    @ChrisMillerCycling

    Жыл бұрын

    Great point

  • @darringrey4329

    @darringrey4329

    Жыл бұрын

    Tall poppie was invented on NZ and we're pros at it

  • @SingaporeUntold

    @SingaporeUntold

    Жыл бұрын

    I almost feel its the opposite. It’s not that your judged for cheaper stuff but you can be praised for having the latest pricey thing. It’s basically the culture that durianrider dislikes i think 😅

  • @nickobec
    @nickobec Жыл бұрын

    Flared handlebars for road bikes in theory are sub 35cm at the hoods so you can get aero on the hoods (which in theory is more aero than the drops) and then flare out to 38cm at the drops for more control in the sprint. These bars do not offer an advantage over 38 cm (or 36cm bars in my case) for riders who race in the drops like Jesse or me.

  • @seriousbees
    @seriousbees Жыл бұрын

    I learned a lot from training videos. Im sure they will still be necessary in the future as the science is updated

  • @timhooker7867
    @timhooker7867 Жыл бұрын

    Great to hear you guys chatting as always. As a 60 year old I have to say the plateau is great. I hear everything Jesse says, but it's a bit scary wondering if you've improved for the last time, and the recovery period dip is actually the start of the trip down from the summit!! Luckily the training process is just as much fun as the training outcomes,,,, (At least that's what I tell myself!!)

  • @ChrisMillerCycling

    @ChrisMillerCycling

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m loving life of the plateau, don’t fancy any time down on the plains 😁

  • @frenchbc8402
    @frenchbc8402 Жыл бұрын

    You descend in the drops on gravel is so you don’t get bounced off the hoods if the surface is washboard, chunky, or made of holes.

  • @bananitedolque
    @bananitedolque Жыл бұрын

    you’d be definitely fitter by riding outside at z2 than by watching any training video even if it’s dr ferrari talking about benefits of olive oil

  • @MrJohnnyTN
    @MrJohnnyTN Жыл бұрын

    so funny I've been watching Oompa since Season1

  • @OompaLoompaCycling

    @OompaLoompaCycling

    Жыл бұрын

  • @MrKnisterGer
    @MrKnisterGer Жыл бұрын

    On my gravel bike I went from a 42 no flare to a 38 no flare for better fit but never liked it, especially in the drops. Now I have 40cm 10deg flare with a shallow 105mm drop and it’s the absolute sweet spot for me. Descending on rough gravel feels really good in the drops. Cornering on loose gravel is still better on the hoods though to shift weight off the front wheel.

  • @MattYoungman012
    @MattYoungman012 Жыл бұрын

    What's with the matching black jumpers? 😄

  • @MichaelThorne_za
    @MichaelThorne_za Жыл бұрын

    Oompa Loompa reaction video please! 🙏🙏🙏😅

  • @johnnydarko8031
    @johnnydarko8031 Жыл бұрын

    oompa loompa cycling has changed my life. 🍻 Chris & Jessie.

  • @OompaLoompaCycling

    @OompaLoompaCycling

    Жыл бұрын

  • @g.williammartinez9707
    @g.williammartinez9707 Жыл бұрын

    Cramps are not only related to fatigue. Genetics! I have cramps in my hand, back and neck. In and out of the races. 😢

  • @uknowbass

    @uknowbass

    Жыл бұрын

    Try some magnesium supplements. You’re welcome

  • @jhref

    @jhref

    Жыл бұрын

    Same. Magnesium doesn't help.

  • @uknowbass

    @uknowbass

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jhref darn. Full medical work up then. Find a neurologist to do a muscle biopsy

  • @TenSapphires
    @TenSapphires Жыл бұрын

    You missed one more thing with Magene: they do software for powermetar,for GPS cyclocomputer(with navigation) and Zwift like software. They have FTP test and workouts in One Lap software and no big KZreadr did good revieew of that and there is 10000 reviews of Zwift and Trainer road workouts. 5$ for month of Zwift competitor software, its intersting topic for cyclist on budget. Good show guys, keep up!

  • @BarePotato
    @BarePotato Жыл бұрын

    Actually I like flared handlebar, but need to pay special attention to the flare-shape. Good flared drops are not actually that flared when you grab drop deep (close to hoods), but flared on the end of drop (bar end side). The idea is if you are riding hard you usually grab deep, while flared end side is use for relaxed or gravel rides.

  • @cablemodem
    @cablemodem Жыл бұрын

    Dylan Johnson’s videos on polarized training gave me the kick in the butt I needed to do the long, boring z2 workouts Zwift. I’m a dumbass who turns every outdoor ride into a threshold workout. I was getting nowhere fitness wise. Doing 80/20 on Zwift got me out of the plateau (more like sea level swamp) I was stuck on for years.

  • @DavidK140
    @DavidK140 Жыл бұрын

    Great ep , challenge everything. Chris your voice gets very squeaky on your high horse😂. Also great little 12th man quote - Jesse’s a bit young for that 🛫

  • @jaredjosiah9089
    @jaredjosiah9089 Жыл бұрын

    Here we go!

  • @bananitedolque
    @bananitedolque Жыл бұрын

    Hey guys what do you think about electro stimulation (ie compex) for recovery ? and for training? I’ve seen people using it while riding indoors

  • @rodforney7184
    @rodforney7184 Жыл бұрын

    I love your show and your honest self reflection. You are on target that you are both elitist in your approach to cycling but for me also being a bit of a snob its what draws me to the channel. Been watching your older content and its also cool to see how much things have improved. Like the new home page.

  • @ChrisMillerCycling

    @ChrisMillerCycling

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Rod

  • @Philatlondon1
    @Philatlondon1 Жыл бұрын

    Cramping. Totally agree. Early season races when you're going harder than you have in training. But the worst cramp I have ever had was racing while in a creatine loading phase. I cramped in muscles I didn't even know I had.

  • @mancampovestiminvatam
    @mancampovestiminvatam Жыл бұрын

    I started cycling in 2017 with the aim to prepare for a long journey. Later on, I pedaled with different people and started having feedbacks about my low speed (some seemed to be annoyed by it - meaning less than 18 km/h max sustained speed on plain field). Then, 2 years ago, I got dropped in the worst manner possible. Few minutes after I also bonked. This was the event that started me on my journey to sports nutrition and structured training. Thanks to Dylan and some other youtubers, I got rid of the "fat-adapted" crap that held me back so much. Last year I watched an hour long interview about century ride training. It seemed incredible how far I was from the correct way of doing things. Since than, I implemented block periodization and seen improvement. Meanwhile my left knee started having gout-related issues (surgery coming up these days) and had to back off. 6 months into the sickness and still can sustain over 20 km/h speeds for at least an hour. Yes, I know this is far from what many viewers do. This comment is about improving thanks to youtube content. PS: if all goes well, I'll start experimenting with Jesse's sugar water drink :D I do have minimal experience with very small quantities but not specifically for fueling. So thanks for all the content you provide. 99 % is entertainment and 1 % is gold that levels up my experience!

  • @sueghdsifbvjvn
    @sueghdsifbvjvn Жыл бұрын

    I have seen moderate success using information form a bunch of training videos because in a way it makes me feel like I actually have a purpose beyond just 'enjoying riding'. I know that riding more in general will make me fitter and faster but come on, it is pretty cool to open trainingpeaks, design a workout, tweak it based on what I know I can/can't do and then load that shit on my wahoo for my next interval session ride. Strava segments are cool and all but it sure is nice seeing that I can do X watts for Y time which is more useful to gauge my efforts in a race situation or a fast group ride.

  • @The_Normalised_Cyclist
    @The_Normalised_Cyclist Жыл бұрын

    1) Tristan said that he will follow up on the video with his experience of working with high level cycling coach in couple of weeks. 2) for me the greatest takeaways from training related videos would be case studies what work what doesn’t work. I need to know if I can ever move my ftp from 4w/kg to dreamed 5w/kg with 8-10h/week 🙈

  • @messi9991

    @messi9991

    Жыл бұрын

    Case studies won't help with that. Genetics determine whether you respond to training or not.

  • @The_Normalised_Cyclist

    @The_Normalised_Cyclist

    Жыл бұрын

    I respond to training. I meant sth like the video Jessy made bout zwift workouts which are bs which work

  • @brettdyson3286
    @brettdyson3286 Жыл бұрын

    Those guys on Oompa loompa are brilliant. I love the pure passion in these bikes that's me as an average b or C grade racer a S5 isn't going to make me win races. But if I like the way my propel looks with matte black no decal wheels cause I like the look. One saying I have herd and like "don't yuck other people's yum" Training wise I like the system of the old Nero club 80 a month for generic programs. I can't justify 200+ a month

  • @Konzuug
    @Konzuug Жыл бұрын

    Came from Spotify just to say that you descend in the drops when gravelling.

  • @numeronolla1163
    @numeronolla1163 Жыл бұрын

    about the part that gravel descent, personally on the drop I feels more control and easier to handle the bike. And in Finland, to ride through soft ice, stay in the drop make it a lot easier to do so :D

  • @TheSpikysk
    @TheSpikysk Жыл бұрын

    you are better with every video, your debates are great, something like me with my cycling friends

  • @ShawnIsBatman
    @ShawnIsBatman Жыл бұрын

    On the revelations from the chat with Joe....first, great episode, I hope he is able to be back on the show again, second, like you, now I really want the detail of what is "real" and what is crap!

  • @ChrisMillerCycling

    @ChrisMillerCycling

    Жыл бұрын

    I know right. It’s a bit like now we know something, i want to know everything.

  • @petaratanasov4664
    @petaratanasov4664 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, guys - great content, definitely a follower here :). One comment by Jesse just tickled me a bit... I am highly skeptical that anyone can "explain" or "give advice" on nutrition in 5min. The quality of that advice would be just as bad as the quality of the training advice one can give over 5min... In fact, I would argue that nutrition is far more complex and has been the subject of a lot more research compared to training methods and practices. It is also a lot more complex adjust someone with "bad" nutrition than it is for someone to change their training approach. Sure you can simply say: "fuel before, fuel during and fuel after" and that is just not advice :). It's like saying "go find your zones, then do a pyramidal training block for 4 weeks and switch to a polarized one" and that is it.#rantover :)

  • @SrFederico
    @SrFederico Жыл бұрын

    Concerning the Ooma Loompa part: It's a bit smug to look down on people who don't even ride 200km/week. That's about 7 hours of training for an amateur rider, not counting dressing, undressing, showering and bike and apparel maintenance. And mind you, it's Singapore, 60 km is about a full circle around the whole COUNTRY.

  • @jameswojno1216
    @jameswojno1216 Жыл бұрын

    Disagree on the bike fit videos, Chris! I've been riding for third years, and after listening to my body and watching loads of Neil Stanbury on RCA, my position is so much more comfortable now than ever. I did get one of the bullshit Specialized Retul fits in my first year, but I've tossed all that right out.

  • @Philatlondon1
    @Philatlondon1 Жыл бұрын

    Would like to see you review the power meter.

  • @jamiegiven
    @jamiegiven Жыл бұрын

    What an odd experience with Magene. I reached out to them in January and asked if I could test their P505 power meter as I thought some of the cyclists I'm coaching could have some interest in using their PM. I ended up buying a P505 and their QED cranks. I'm quite impressed with it so far and can say it has worked as advertised. They didn't need to make such demands.

  • @VeloGrapher
    @VeloGrapher Жыл бұрын

    Nice to see @oompaloompa featured. Will be creating content with him next month in Singapore! I’ve found cycling culture in Singapore really interesting as compared to here in Aus. On the topic of elitism, the culture is although Oompa’s show isn’t. I’m actually quite excited to get there to ride with the cyclist there to experience it - dogmas and Princeton wheelsets are apparently… everywhere.

  • @slowcyclist4324

    @slowcyclist4324

    Жыл бұрын

    Not true. Singapore isn’t that homogenous; we have sworks and zipps too.

  • @1975Cornfield
    @1975Cornfield Жыл бұрын

    I am really interested on how to improve my endurance during the race surges.

  • @StephanieLuff
    @StephanieLuff Жыл бұрын

    Let’s start the flare in 🤘

  • @swites
    @swites Жыл бұрын

    Like Chris I am immune to cramping. I get fatigued sore legs which don't work anymore, but I never cramp.

  • @richardmarzec9136
    @richardmarzec9136 Жыл бұрын

    Finally, someone who actually gets the real reason for cramping...muscle fatigue. The only cure is getting more fit. Most training videos are bits and pieces of the overall picture. They provide zero guidance on how it fits in with a training plan .

  • @CarbonRider1
    @CarbonRider1 Жыл бұрын

    I had flared bars on my first gravel bike and decided I hated them for the reasons you mentioned. When I did CX in the fall / winter, the flared bars just got in the way. Now I run non-flared carbon bars on my gravel / CX bike. I don’t get the flared bars either

  • @lachlan_bakewell
    @lachlan_bakewell Жыл бұрын

    I've done 10hr MTB races where I haven't cramped and I've done race where ive cramped 1hr or less into the event. Im not sure if it's just me but the event I have cramped early in have always been a lot colder than I'm used to. 1 enent that I do and I've also won, you ride for about 1hr before kayaking for another hour before the last run component. Every time I've done the event ive cramped at the end of the kayak leg. Ive also had cramps from fatigue in a few hard bike races but i have found that i can reduce or even stop the cramping complete with something salty in the mouth. I know years ago i spoke to a guy called Jason English who now multitud of 24hr solo wins at bothe the Australian national level and also that the world championship level. He had Vegemite sandwichs thought his endurance events and it really helped him maintain the power throughout the day. I think generally it's fair to say that cramping or going lactic are just part of fatigue but when there are other factors that can affect cramps i think some more research need to be done. Anyway, it might just be me but cold conditions and cold river crossings can bring cramping on way before fatigue in my experience.

  • @mihpop9733
    @mihpop9733 Жыл бұрын

    I don't have flared bars and not intending to but i have realized when i do sprints (particularly in a competition setting) i will finish the ride with huge bruises on my forearms from hitting the bar on the corners.

  • @CraigRidesBikes
    @CraigRidesBikes Жыл бұрын

    Let me start by saying I enjoy your videos very much, and often find them to have valuable content. Consider the following as an effort to add to the discussion, though it does come wrapped in constructive criticism. Your over-simplified explanation of cramping and subsequent contradictory example of someone cramping seems quite confused. I’ve been riding and racing for 38 years. I’ve experienced several different types of leg cramps. A muscle can cramp for numerous different reasons, but the most common types are from: (1) a muscular imbalance where one muscle is significantly stronger than its opposing or supporting counterpart; (2) a nutrient or electrolyte deficiency that causes the muscle to misfire; (3) accumulated stress from hard training or racing followed by immediate inactivity such as a long drive or flight (I’ve suffered from this several times over the years, and it sucks); (4) fatigue, as you discussed; (5) dehydration. If you’re fortunate enough to have never cramped, or to have only experienced fatigue cramps, consider yourself lucky, but don’t be misled into thinking that fatigue is the only reason for muscle cramping.

  • @nerocoaching

    @nerocoaching

    Жыл бұрын

    These are good points. From my experience coaching riders, I'd say 8/10 incidences of cramping I see are in the (4) category. There are rarer situations where the cramping could have been alleviated by better hydration, electrolytes, fuelling, etc. And yet nearly every time a rider cramps, they automatically assume it's lack of electrolytes. I wasn't intending to give a full explanation of cramping, I was intending to make the point above.

  • @MattChapple
    @MattChapple Жыл бұрын

    I literally only change things on my bike because it looks cooler (to me). I changed from Shimano to SRAM because the Red chainset looks better with my titanium frame.

  • @Thehuntress404
    @Thehuntress404 Жыл бұрын

    45:22 the mold and layup topic is such a great question that we all REALLY want to know! Please find the answer for us haha

  • @Flexb777
    @Flexb777 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve been cramping for years especially at the end of a Very Hard efforts or events and I’ve isolated it to Salt depletion. I’ve also found it to be genetically predisposed to cramping over others. I take Salt Pills on any event or effort’s especially over 3hrs plus drink LMNT drink mix and that has helped me in amazing ways most definitely!! Getting Sick SUCKS, especially after you’re at a high level, but its key to know when to take it easy and back it off listening to your body and if using a Whoop or OURA Ring/strap where the evidence is Objective and not anecdotal.

  • @TheKytoza

    @TheKytoza

    Жыл бұрын

    same same 👍

  • @pedalposting
    @pedalposting Жыл бұрын

    Jesse Coyle doing 5x5 is the first video I saw and the reason I know about this podcast lmao

  • @davidballagh137
    @davidballagh137 Жыл бұрын

    I actually watch those training videos (including many that you referenced here) to attempt to build a training plan for myself. I don’t have a ton of spare cash so hiring a coach or paying for a training service isn’t really an option, so I’m trying to apply what I learn to create real training blocks and workouts. I’ll admit though, this space on KZread is weird and videos sometimes contradict one another and there doesn’t seem to be a single source to provide all the detail I’m personally looking for, so I end up picking and choosing from various sources on what makes sense to me.

  • @daubstep5003
    @daubstep5003 Жыл бұрын

    Harry Sweeney has made some good content with specific training details, or at least he includes the info in a more full-view video about his day to day

  • @markpace8303
    @markpace8303 Жыл бұрын

    Personally, I’m just looking for cycling entertainment to throw on the screen while I do indoor training. Benji is a great example. Digestible, interesting and entertaining to distract the mind while spinning.

  • @bobbrian6526
    @bobbrian6526 Жыл бұрын

    what would be more interesting from the NorCal2 guy than just his daily training, is how he progressed it. He made a pretty big improvement so would ahve needed to bump up volume and power, did he do it by feel, or just add on a fixed amount each week, or do particular tests

  • @bobbrian6526

    @bobbrian6526

    Жыл бұрын

    @Chrismillercycling-on-tel_egra not interested in dick pics, sorry

  • @lukemanion6555
    @lukemanion6555 Жыл бұрын

    Whoop whoop, channel artwork change... first time in 5 years I didn't to it. No Merlinmiller production 😥

  • @ChrisMillerCycling

    @ChrisMillerCycling

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment Luke. Be great if you subscribed to the channel for more entertaining content 🤣

  • @endatheworld
    @endatheworld Жыл бұрын

    Hope you’re feeling well Chris

  • @NeonGrayEdits
    @NeonGrayEdits Жыл бұрын

    What do I want from a training video? A custom built and tailored plan for exactly my specific race, all for free! Lol jk. But kinda for real. Lol. Love love love you guys. The podcast just ended and I’m always sad when it does!

  • @merckxy54
    @merckxy54 Жыл бұрын

    The Ultegra crankset, it that stuck together as the Durace???

  • @BobMcAllan
    @BobMcAllan Жыл бұрын

    Training.. very interested in actual kms, power numbers, time of day, schedules for non-pro racers..

  • @bykr2009
    @bykr2009 Жыл бұрын

    On the flared handlebar comments, I see UAE and others using them in the peloton and I think it's become a way to circumvent the UCI's rules on handlebar width as they probably measure at the end of the bars. With say 36cm at the ends they can have the hoods that much closer. I do think that the pro peloton has lost their minds on a lot of this area stuff as looking at a percentage of time any rider in not drafting is very small compared to the race time.

  • @Heliosmaster
    @Heliosmaster Жыл бұрын

    I came out more confused than before from the video with China Cycling (and also more intrigued to know more). As you said I had an idea of how that process works, but I still don't understand the differences between 'originals' and chinese brands. What is then the difference between Seka and Factor (they both quack and walk like ducks). He seemed to hint that they are kinda the same but maybe not?? I understand and respect that there's ton of stuff that he's not allowed to say and rightly so, but now i'm more confused. If I were to buy a new frame now I wouldn't know where to go: Should I shell out a ton of money to a big brand or take the "white label" one? What are the risks?

  • @jeronimosuarez7957
    @jeronimosuarez7957 Жыл бұрын

    There's so many coaches here in Spain...and for what I know, very few use wko5 or golden cheetah or are able to plot data points...specially those who've been working since the 90s and have earned a huge reputation...cough, cough, cough.

  • @breathestrongcycling3672
    @breathestrongcycling3672 Жыл бұрын

    my bars from 1985 were called crit bars and they measure 39 on the hoods and 42 on the drops so it's nothing new....and no, your elbows don't stick out...

  • @KevinMatassa
    @KevinMatassa Жыл бұрын

    gravel flared bars supposedly for stability

  • @melbournecyclingsegments7510
    @melbournecyclingsegments7510 Жыл бұрын

    two words. Kinetic Cycling. Ok some more words...his weekly show is good. rarely stays on topic, but i find him very motivating for us regular joes doing other stuff like pretending to be a husban/dad and clearing the occasional gutter. His Scottish accent doesnt hurt either. When I am lost, fighting a platued dipping line on a graph, he gets me back on track. Then the watts come back

  • @Gabrielle4870

    @Gabrielle4870

    Жыл бұрын

    He's a coach in the supportive kind of way. He's found quite a unique niche with that. And yes the Scottish accent makes it more entertaining 😂

  • @darrynluck47
    @darrynluck47 Жыл бұрын

    Love a good dad joke Chris. 😂

  • @myrimidon202
    @myrimidon202 Жыл бұрын

    I don't get the narrative around cramping here. The only time I cramp is after I'm both fatigued and dehydrated, but it doesnt take my power from 300 to 250, it takes it to 0 because I'm in too much pain to be on the bike until i stretch it out. That seems different to just damaged muscles fibres and low energy stores ...

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