I'm one of those who would like Sam to sing like before. But you have to understand something. He is a human being, not a robot, and this style of music begins to take its toll on your body and voice after so many years of shows, albums, tours, etc. Besides trying to market their music more these days one of the other reasons they do it is trying to find more comfort for Sam's voice. We already had enough of him in his best days of pure metalcore, now they give us what they can trying to sound like Architects, let's be realHe is one of the few who has managed to keep that raspy scream super high with those notes for so many years.

@Oryyyt

18 күн бұрын

100% agree. What's important to me now is that they've immortalized the insane things he did during his prime. We can always go back to it.

14 күн бұрын

All I can say is that when he sang back in May in Boston his voice was on point so he is 100% tired. Hopefully he takes care of himself and they get to rest for a bit.

@malwarewoman

9 күн бұрын

Ах если бы люди подумали об этом в 2017 году о Честере. НО ВСЕ ДУМАЮТ ТОЛЬКО О СЕБЕ

@MaruNamikaze

Күн бұрын

He’s also coming to that age where it’ll be difficult to do those crazy techniques. Sam will always be one of the best for me.

TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 - Seeing Red 6:24 - Giving Blood 9:57 - deep fake 13:39 - Impermanence 18:50 - Black Lungs 23:00 - Hereafter 28:50 - Curse 31:55 - Royal Beggars 37:20 - Doomsday 41:55 - Meteor 48:25 - when we were young 52:50 - Animals

@RobertMullineux

Ай бұрын

Needs more Early Grave, Gravedigger, These Colours Don't Run, Nihilist

@kevinariiya

Ай бұрын

@@RobertMullineux 100% agree!

@kevinariiya

Ай бұрын

​@@ChainChomp122 yeaa, at least play Naysayer, Nihilist, These Colours Don't Run and others 😂

@_educross

Ай бұрын

​@@ChainChomp122if you don't like doomsday and hereafter even a little you're crazy bro ( weak set tho :/ )

@lout9231

Ай бұрын

Holy fuck what an awful set list. I so wish they’d just started a new band with a new name after holy hell. Fair enough to them for cracking on and trying something new but it’s just not architects.

Here's my 2 cents as a vocal nerd: 1. Their music in general is really tough to perform - it can be done safely with good technique, but it's a HEAVY workout. 2. Voices can change over time. It's been almost 8 years since All Our Gods Have Abandoned Us. That's more time than there was between Hollow Crown and All Our Gods Have Abandoned Us. 3. They play hourlong sets - when I saw them in Munich they played 25 songs. That's hard for vocalists and nearly impossible if you're going 100% on every show. If you wanna go 100%, you need more rest days or shorter sets. That might also be why the Royal Albert Hall sessions were so amazing - because he didn't have to perform the next day so he could just go all out. TL, DR: Not going 100% on every song, every night and adapting as your voice naturally changes is a healthy choice, if you wanna maintain a workable voice as a performer. (Also Josh was elite on guitar and backing vocals sicne he is an experienced frontman himself. Of course it's gonna be tough to fill those shoes.)

@nysm6661

Ай бұрын

I kinda share your opinion on that. From what I've heard over the past years, Sam has some difficulties with some types of vocals (mainly the old ones) but the way he adapts and find new techniques and hit different notes, sometimes even more difficult, is fascinating to me

@alejandrorohen

29 күн бұрын

I love how you called Josh an Elite guitarist, cause he is, and so Tom was. That makes me think of the signature Architects kinda used to have and that’s the complex guitar work. A job only Elite guitarists like Tom and Josh could get done. I guess the band’s going to remain with that position empty.

@user-abuser-t1l

20 күн бұрын

@@alejandrorohen they have to invite some music genius at least on the album sessions. Someone super-creative like Jon Deiley from Northlane, because what they need is to re-establish themselves.

0:18 he did the thing

@haeihaeihaei

Ай бұрын

And with a smile on his face :D

@novuxchr0me841

Ай бұрын

@@haeihaeihaei ye, cos he knows how we love the good old BLEGHs.

@weebsarecringe2102

Ай бұрын

Just some sad hoarse "blegh". Was amazing back when Sam was actually a great vocalist.

@goku4139

Ай бұрын

Is that Dan on drums?

@jim9301

Ай бұрын

@@weebsarecringe2102 pathetic comment

16:10 that whole breakdown with Loz from While She Sleeps was SICK AF

@IlVanguardlI

Ай бұрын

He's got such a sick voice. Underated band

@xavkoston16

Ай бұрын

The only moment I enjoyed from this shitty live performance. I'm an Architects fan since 2010 but this live is horrible. Sam vocals are so weak, sound recording is bad, stage presence is lame ... I know people are touring a lot and everyone can be tired some day ... I hope they will put better live show in the future

I love how people still love to enjoy metal music

His singing style has changed so much

@nosferhatu

Ай бұрын

Into bad

@anthonyvenedicto518

Ай бұрын

I will say that bro's growls are absolutely amazing, but I don't really like the screaming/singing as it sounds too pop like.

@inspektorgadget1129

Ай бұрын

yes his screaming sounds terrible in here… he had way more power in the past

@joedog3977

Ай бұрын

he sounds exactly like knocked loose in "animals" in some parts. like to the point he could be knocked looses new lead singer.

@somekid4712

Ай бұрын

@@inspektorgadget1129 well Sam is getting older, and his screaming style is very demanding. Performing day after day kills his voice if he tries to replicate studio quality

Thank you for uploading this!

so happy they're getting the success right now, they deserve it so much.

Thanks for sharing this with us, Capt Radbeard 👏👍👌👋

As the guy who got knocked out, yall were amazing no the less and thanks for making space ❤

@Oryyyt

Ай бұрын

Is that why they stopped?

@dennismaes6319

Ай бұрын

@@Oryyyt Yeah, the very first pit really set the tone. Pretty vicious, I've never really had an issue with falling down / getting knocked over in pits and I it happened 3 times to me during this gig. Not surprised someone got hurt, but glad to hear he's doing okay!

@Oryyyt

Ай бұрын

@@dennismaes6319 That sounds like a good time actually. I wouldn't mind a bruise or 2 in an Architects set. But it's nice that they care enough to halt when the fun gets a bit out of hand.

@jordiragner

Ай бұрын

@@dennismaes6319 there was an older women in front of me who didn’t wanna get in the pit so I just pulled her behind me, I don’t remember clearly what happened after her. Just that I ended in the ambulance. I’m glad the woman is okay too, the pit was unexpected that it suddenly grew like that too. Usually I’m a fan of mosh pits too.

@brentmp8046

Ай бұрын

I'm the security guy that carried you out! Glad to hear you're safe!

I fucking love this band and Sam is an amazing vocalist, always thought that. I started listening to them in 2018 right before holy hell dropped which in my opinion is one of the best metalcore albums I’ve ever heard. Sadly I couldn’t see them back then because I was too young (16) so I saw them for the first time last year on their Germany tour. Show was amazing, crowd was amazing, everything was on point. But now? Sounds like they need some time off. Don’t get me wrong, I also love their newer stuff but holy fuck back in 2019 I couldn’t believe what kind of sounds and screams sam could do, it was crazy as hell. Please get some rest, you guys really deserve it!

@venzallow6206

Ай бұрын

I can even recommend you to watch the newer show at Berlin in 2023. Despite Sam's vocals in 2018-2019 was really sick, in this show he was literally perfect: heavy distortion on screams and stable cleans. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fYh5qJWol8jMaNo.htmlsi=le7snOtVBJNOEEsC

@georgebrett1738

Ай бұрын

Holy Hell was their last absolute belter album in my opinion. Man, that 3 album mid discography run of Lost forever // lost together, All our gods and Holy hell is GOAT’d.

@venzallow6206

Ай бұрын

@@georgebrett1738 agreed. But, you now, my first album to listen was FTTWTE. I listened to Tom trilogy only after that in the beginning of 2022, and then I listened to their whole discography without first two albums. So now, after countless listens of all their stuff I still surely say that FTTWE was really good continuing of Holy Hell, despite changing a genre and changing a sound it has really interesting ideas and elements that we could already see on Holy Hell. Discourse is Dead was even written in the HH era

@user-abuser-t1l

20 күн бұрын

I was at Tom's last show in Nuremberg. I've also seen them dozens of times live. I completely agree with what you say. Tom was the one who set the creative direction for the band. He had amazing ideas and the ability to bring them to life. He was the one who created “Architects tone” and brought 6th string Mayonaise to the table. He was the foundation, the basement for the band! Josh became a solid replacement. He was able to finish Tom's trilogy and bring some interesting ideas to the new albums. However, despite being one of the best guitarists on the technical side of things, Josh failed to create a new direction for Architects, and that's when he left. What can I say, after Josh's departure Architects completely lost the quality side of the band. The riffs are half-finished, the live sound is mediocre, and Sam's voice is in bad shape. I don't even know if he cares because in my opinion he doesn't. Architects are really stagnant right now. Maybe Fish's genius can pull them back together, but I doubt it. Architects desperately needs a leader. A good one.

@chrisb.4715

19 күн бұрын

@@user-abuser-t1lwell said

Great Band Prog ARCHITEC S 🎸 🎹 🎤👏👍👌👋

i was there and it was fucking sick

This video is great but I was there and there are so much heavier than what this video can show Such amazing live performers

THIS IS F*CKING AMAZING!!!!!!!!

Im always sad about they dont play these colours dont run :/ that one started me in this kind of Metal + safed my life through a hard time.

His lows sound good, high screams not so good but sometimes on recordings they don’t sound anywhere near as good as being there in person

@mexicomiamorymas

Ай бұрын

eso

@drbrowny90

Ай бұрын

When there he sounds epic. I watched some vids back I took last show I went to and was like eww. These do sound extra odd though.

@dmitrypoletaev7478

Ай бұрын

I'd disagree, his lows are very basic false chord growl almost everybody can do with minimal practice, his low screams he used to do back in the days sounded much more interesting

@JDLR117

Ай бұрын

He's probably using a different technique with the lows, he should learn how to do mid screams with the same technique he's using for lows

@goku4139

Ай бұрын

Is that dan on drums?

Спасибо за кайф❤

Imagine going through this setlist and that voice at the same time.

I feel like this video doesn’t make Sam justice. I’ve seen them at every date on the Metallica tour and his voice live is so fkn good! Top front man.

LOZZZZZ

Sounds great in my opinion, it's not easy to put your voice through what he does every night and to be pulling off screaming and singing for an hour , voices change with age also

Oh god, they should just really take a break... At this point, it´s just sad. Avoiding all the screams, all the harder songs, pointing the mic towards the audience half of the gig, walking around as if someone forces you to be there. I love their music, even their newer pieces, understand the evolution and am really happy that he, hopefully, feels better mentally, but at the moment, I´m not so sure they are worth seeing live (saying this as someone who saw them some months ago).

@MAtloi

Ай бұрын

Interestingly enough, they played All Our Gods Have Abandoned Us the night before at Full Force Festival in Germany. On the other points I agree.

@luissilvadrummer

Ай бұрын

Do you think is because of the touring musicians, cause I think someone else is playing drums? I think also the guitarist are touring musicians, but I don’t get the same vibe like the other concerts

@jakebellaire

Ай бұрын

@@luissilvadrummer Those are all official members. The band just sucks now

@ChainChomp122

Ай бұрын

It’s sad to see, I saw them in 2017 in a small theatre and they were one of the best live bands I’ve ever seen. Sam Carter even came out and did security for Stray from the Path because the security guards gave up and we’re letting kids crowd surf over the barrier and land on their backs

@chadg4498

Ай бұрын

I saw them in Chicago in May and he was way more into it and sounded so much better. Love sam, but I think they need to get him a vocal coach or a new one

He sounds like he's trying to do his best Billy Talent impression with those highs 😐

Sam , u kick ass man 🤘

Bring me The Architects

@fujihito

Ай бұрын

Build Me The Horizon

@JulioCesar-pk4lu

Ай бұрын

Architect Me The Horizon

incredible how this man can sing those high notes even being sick.

@soliDANity

Ай бұрын

That'll be the pitch correction

Como no amarte Saaam

What the hell happened to his voice, man.

@sandonparrish7217

Ай бұрын

I have no idea, but he might have been sick or something at this show. I just saw them last month and he sounded phenomenal then

@dmitrypoletaev7478

Ай бұрын

Idk my theory is that he tryied to switch to a different screaming/distortion technique and it didn't go well. Maybe he was brainwashed by some shitty vocal coach that his technique was dangerous though it reallt wasn't.

@alonehades100

Ай бұрын

He talked about having issues a few months ago, my guess is that as he evolved in clean singing he has been struggling with the way he used to scream, he said he is currently working with a coach. He’s been sounding amazing this tour, this wa probably an off day

@terecoteco9296

Ай бұрын

@@alonehades100 I mean, the screams sound good and all, but his high cleans sound weird, like in Seeing Red, but i do hear a difference in his cleans in general, not bad necessarily.

@sohereiam

Ай бұрын

he is normally really good , bet he was sick or something .. his screams were off

The weather was really crappy that weekend , probably had a negative effect on his voice , i was still very happy to be there ❤️

nothing wrong with the performance or vocals. It's a live show, it's never gonna be perfect, also these outdoor festival videos always sound like this with the mix all over the place

@Dysilik

Ай бұрын

Also, a lot of people in here should read the lyrics of Seeing Red.

@nikodemvankenobi

Ай бұрын

@@Dysilik oh yeah its the songs concept to be performed like ass vocally lmao

@Dysilik

Ай бұрын

Gneuu gneuuu gneuuu, The performance is very good, it's just that it's made to make it's way through a sound system that is not what we have at home. Same for letting the audience sing it is unpleasant only for those who listen out of context. Go propose something else or better, and come back afterward

@nikodemvankenobi

Ай бұрын

@@Dysilik no way this is the cope; how is the only time people are blaming the sound system is when the actual performance blows, while there are so many amazing soundboard performances, even Architects pre-covid were amazingly mixed and all that my thing is that sam sounds straight up bad on the highs for a long while now, and them touring ts still doesn’t let him either address anything, or even rest. i saw them a ton of times pre-, and like twice post- covid, and there was a noticeable change between the vocals, 2019 Sam was probably the biggest force of nature I’ve ever heard, but this isn’t it dude

@Dysilik

Ай бұрын

In any case you make the song really better. 9/10 If you had commented "R.I.P" it would have been a perfect note.

But where are the drone shots

man is sick and killing it

They have the stage presence of your dad at kareoke

@jonathancurtis5122

Ай бұрын

Hahahhahah

@HyruleWanderer

Ай бұрын

Check the Summerblast 2015 concert. Shit was insane.

@Dwesk

Ай бұрын

@@HyruleWanderer if you have to use a decade old set as a counterpoint then you're just adding fuel to the flame. He was 26.

@HyruleWanderer

Ай бұрын

@@Dwesk Not a counterpoint. Just saying it was amazing.

@Dwesk

Ай бұрын

@@HyruleWanderer oh yeah fair game then.

I'm gonna see architects on brutal assault in august and i'm already dissapointed... what the hell is wrong with Sam's vocals and the back vocalist? When he sang in Abbey road or in Royal Albert Hall he was incredible, and it was only 3 years ago, what's going on?

@martinbrookscreative

Ай бұрын

It's the middle of festival season and also no josh on backing vox with not being in the band any more!

@Bottom_g_69

Ай бұрын

The sound was awful overall at graspop so dont get discouraged.

@thewormonchantalssalad

Ай бұрын

Also sound at Graspop festival in person and on video is always shit

@EVRfuture

Ай бұрын

It just seems like he can't handle his screams and mixes here (Hereafter as a great example). Cleans are decent but his new style that has a completely different vibe from the studio version... Nah. Every "bleeding out like a devil in disguise" phrase in Giving Blood ends in Sam dying out of notes. I mean it is a style but why? Why use it here? This style doesn't belong here imo...

@ethanshumski960

Ай бұрын

go watch other videos. Everyone has bad days, he usually sounds great.

Я был на концерте в Бруклине и Филадельфии, у Сэма был вокал на хорошем уровне

@venzallow6206

Ай бұрын

Значит, как минимум, он нестабилен. И в целом за последний год у него проблемы с техникой: высокие скримы испортились совсем, средних нет, чистым петь часто ленится, видимо тяжело. Да и поет под автотюн. Мне, как фанату группы и в частности, Сэма, грустно на это смотреть

@NKN82

Ай бұрын

@@venzallow6206 больно смотреть? на то что вместо тупого ора начали делать шикарные бэнгеры?

@levanchikvaidze3519

Ай бұрын

⁠@@NKN82мужик, речь даже не о материале. Сэм поет чистые партии с тюном, а любые сложные партии он «дает петь залу». Глянь Doomsday, это же стыдобище.. такая важная для группы песня настолько на похуй исполняется фронтменом.

@user-abuser-t1l

20 күн бұрын

Да тут не только вокал, тут звук - говно говном. Не кем Джоша заменить.

@venzallow6206

19 күн бұрын

@@levanchikvaidze3519 вот, это именно то, что я бы ответил этому челу, но я уже знаю его и поэтому не хотел этого делать. Но кстати, Сэм чаще не то, что бы на похуй поет, а скорее находится в плохой форме и имеет проблемы с техникой. В любом случае, даже по сравнению с январским туром по Германии в прошлом году Сэм звучит очень слабо и я очень надеюсь, что в один момент это изменится к лучшему

For the band's respect i would delete this video

Sam is killing it and singing for his life, is it perfect ? Of course not, nobody is, but that's the beauty of performing live. Other people put that shit on tracks and call it a day. Nothing but respect for these guys.

People hating on sam's vocals don't get how vocals work :D Live will always be different than studio, and he actually sounds good here, its just that his technique is different that it was once. His higher pitched singing is more comparable to some older metal bands. It's still on point. note wise its pretty good too. maybe it sounds a bit thin, but im pretty sure that also has to do with the recording.. you can't really encapsulate the real feal of a live recording with such a recording, but tbh this is one of the best live performance videos ever

@ViolaDennis

Ай бұрын

To add to that, the person making the video seems to have gone the distance and actually removed most noise from the crowd, which overlaps some frequencies in the vocal. however that makes the video better so its completely fine

@mutatednut

17 күн бұрын

@@ViolaDennisyou’re coping hard there buddy

@ViolaDennis

17 күн бұрын

@@mutatednut aight

Does anyone know if Sam had a hair transplant?

@bubbacalling

Ай бұрын

I've wondered this last year, I'm not sure. He's definitely dying his hair brown though. If he'd had a transplant you'd think his hairline would be further forward, but it's overall looking thicker. Hard to tell.

Sam's cleans❤❤❤❤ he is a monster

I enjoyed every minute of watching this show live. Fucking amazing.

Hearing Doomsday now compared to when they performed at Ally Pally... what the hell happened, man?

They headlined on that Friday night before that Saturday at Full Force and it didn't seem as bad. Maybe I was drunk in the pit. Anyway, this less than 24h after a big headlining show. I guess one can still expect more, but maybe that's why?

The opening track is pound shop BMTH.

@harrymc523

Ай бұрын

its Piss take BMTH - the hole song is them saying "we dont like making music like this anymore so shut up" to the old "fans"

@bengreen2200

Ай бұрын

@@harrymc523 but they never made music like this before, that doesn't make any sense

His screams is far from his best.

@panthusiast8472

Ай бұрын

It sounds like he has a cold.

@Rednax_Official

Ай бұрын

they sound really bad on video but they were amazing irl

@szymonszydo2556

Ай бұрын

@@Rednax_Official I agree, I've been to two concerts in the last 12 months and his voice is much better live than in many KZread videos. I have no idea why that is

@the.real.sanders

Ай бұрын

I guess his voice is just tired. Sam needs a vocal rest asap

@KyleJoseph-vo6vp

Ай бұрын

Yeah, when I saw them in Boston few months ago he admitted he didn't sound his best

they peaked at lost together lost forever now its bring me the horizon dad rock lol

Tuining bass up for the Drop F tracks?

@mansek4138

Ай бұрын

They tuned up hereafter huh?

Suena tan bring me the architects

Never heard his high scream before

His screams in this are surprisingly bad. But they have been on tour for a bit, so giving him the benefit of the doubt. I know when I saw em here in Myrtle Beach they were 10x over better couple months back. Almost sounds like he didn’t warm up his highs?

Bro he turned into Danny Worsnop.....

Алексей Столяров прекрасен

@WaclawYT

24 күн бұрын

Аххахаах

i love architects, but gotta admit some of Sam's screams sound pretty bad now... his low and his singscream are still fire tho haha

You guys complaining about Sam's vocals...please attend a show, they sound amazing, flawless

I mean his screams got him to this point. Screaming the way he does will eventually wear your voice off a lot. He needs some rest.

definitely one of the best of the whole festival. fuck it was great 🤘

I think this would be amazing!! However my only complaint is that they played nothing from LF//LT… best album imo! But this still smacked, would love to see them live!🖤 he does sound like Bryan Garris from Knocked Loose when he does his highs.. not a bad thing lol

He sounded a little tired, which is not unusual. Still had a great time, as always!

it was a cloudy day, suddenly the sun appeared during DOOMSDAY. I believe in destiny.

He's basically winging the screams by not constricting his vocal chords and using a lot of air. It's likely so he can preserve his voice.

Maybe its because i dont know the material, but he sounds alright to me

Прекратите мучить котенка, нелюди!

I adore this band and am so glad Sam is doing lows but my word his voice is rough here

Not a big fan of hard autotune.... yet I would love te see this guys live!

Anyone know German Rapper "Kontra K"? The singer looks a little like him in the Thumbnail 😅

@chrisb.4715

Ай бұрын

Naja 😂

So.. why are they headlining festivals now?

Graspop sound engineer challenge: make the kick audible (impossible)

Get a break band 😊

I’m urging everyone who doubts Sam’s voice to check the Rockville video, he’s getting there but this show was probs just an off day

A match a made heaven? What happend with the djent songs classic?

Dear Author, I want to repost this content on Bilibili.

2:08 - how quiet can a crowd be? Architects was so big at one point...

i swear i close my eyes and hear chester when he sing's the chorus to the first song

If Sam Kinnison sang in a band

しっかり休んで欲しいな

hate that they stopped playing All of our gods stufff along with the LT/LF stuff

Jeez , he sounds like Guns'n'Roses singer -_-

His clean singing still sounds amazing, as do his new lows. Just his highs sound a bit worn out in this concert, 20 years of screaming your lungs out will do that - very few vocalists have that much logevity

Sam is getting a tea at aunt Ann....

Whut 2:05 🧐

idk why it sounds so bad on video it was amazing live

Don't want to be a hater but goddamn this setlist is boring

Sounds like hardcore vocals

It was really good live... This recording doesn't do it justice.

His cleans are amazing and all those sorts of screaming, I don't know what you guys talk about, it seems like we have a lot of vocal coaches in the comments, you giys have no idea what you're talking about

is this a usual setlist these days or because he was sick? 0 all our gods...

Odd set list, where are the belters?

emo might never delete

Cadê a voz do Sam? Kkkkkkkk até me assustei cara. Que voz é essa...

What the fuck happened to this voice?

@dakinozaure

Ай бұрын

He had a cold

So many of his high vocals just give me Knocked Loose vibes, weird

What the fuck happened to these guys? My god.

😢😢😢😢

For all of those has an a bad opinion about sam`s vocals. The voice isnt a piece of wood is a instrument full of muscle and soft tissue not the same every time he sing for logic reason ,fatigue, sickness, bad mood and a large etc. the same when you go to the gym the body not always respond the same way. sam in a overall perfomance is a beast since 20 years. learn to relax and joy.

Sounds guys decided they only want mids in this mix

Man this live is actually kinda sad, they really are over touring.

Seems like they are following bmth path. I mean: High note helped as jordan fish used to do Scream parts replaced with high vocals But the first track, with that chorus, too similar to bmth

Bro his screams sound so painful.. is he doing it right bro because they sound so painful