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It brings me such joy to see more people actually discuss Archie Sonic and what made it special instead of saying the same regurgitated "Ken Penders bad" rhetoric. I will be there for Part 2!

@ravsucks

5 күн бұрын

@@loona2n Thank you! Archie deserves more love, from beginning to end.

I love archie sonic and have seen so many videos like this so I probably won't finish it, but I'm glad more people are trying to talk about it... just please be respectful. The archie sonic fans are constantly mocked

@ravsucks

12 күн бұрын

I’m critical of some parts, but Archie Sonic is still my favorite rendition of the hedgehog. Absolutely love it and hope others can get into it from this vid.

@ashesGeek

12 күн бұрын

Tell me about it, I grew up with Underground and grew to love Fleetway comics few years ago, the fans of the first thing are mocked just because how can they possibly be fans of this garbage and the entire Sonic fanbase acts like Fleetway comics never existed or just complain that "British Sonic is a dick"

@ravsucks

12 күн бұрын

@@ashesGeek I haven’t got around to it, but I do want to do a read through of Fleetway! I like the idea of giving all the little animal creatures designs and roles, as well as Kintobor and Super Sonic.

@ashesGeek

12 күн бұрын

@ravsucks I really recommend you checking out the entire run, its main writer Nigel Kitching is one of the most underrated Sonic writers ever. I'd dare to say Fleetway has most development and world-building level of Classic Sonic you'd never expected from this era compared to the games, unlike Archie they were trying to keep the world in tone with the games up until adapting Sonic Adventure story. Too bad they didn't have an opportunity to work with characters like Honey the Cat, Heavy and Bomb, or the rest of Team Hooligan except Fang.

@ironpiyepic2666

12 күн бұрын

@@ashesGeek dude... I own every single graphic novel. I know. I was just saying to be more respectful as archie fans are constantly treated like crap

The Archie Sonic comics will always have a special place in my heart. They were the first comics I ever started to read and collected. Plus I think it's the coolest iteration of the Sonic character

@ravsucks

12 күн бұрын

@@fromationart5371 agreed, there’s so few series where the main character is my favorite but sonic himself is so entertaining

One thing to note about the comics is each issue's release dates, which were technically three months earlier than what it says on the cover, which is what we call a "cover date". In reality, issue #1 of the regular series didn't come out in July 1993 but rather April, while issue #0 of the original miniseries didn't come out in February 1993, but in November 1992, which coincidentally was also when Sonic 2 came out. Fun fact: SatAM was originally planned to air on ABC in fall of 1992 to coincide with "Sonic 2sday", but because DiC wanted to produce an extra package of 65 episodes meant for syndication (much like the Real Ghostbusters cartoon), the ABC network pulled out of the deal until they were promised that the syndicated package would become its own separate show which people would not mistake for the one airing on ABC, and thus "Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog" was born, while SatAM was put back into production and also compared to its pilot "Heads or Tails" (which at one point was going to be a Springtime special, before being held over until Thanksgiving when the show went back into production), redesigned to be darker and more dramatic, so people would not mistake it for the silly bright syndicated show.

@ravsucks

12 күн бұрын

@@ScatterbrainPete While researching dates, I had seen it listed separately as Cover Date and Release Date - I believe I went with Cover Date for the video. I was wondering about that though! Also, I had never heard of the SatAM split that resulted in AoSTH - that’s really interesting! In fact, I’m even tempted to include that in Part 2… could I include your comment if I do?

@ScatterbrainPete

12 күн бұрын

@@ravsucks Sure! Go ahead. btw, while you're at it. Check out the SatAM Historian on Twitter (aka Good Ol' Groovy Jake on KZread). That guy has access to some pretty interesting and definitely eye-opening stuff about 90s Sonic media. Most of the info from my previous comment actually comes from him.

@ravsucks

12 күн бұрын

@@ScatterbrainPete radical, i’ll do that. thanks a ton!

Archie Sonic is unironically my favorite story ever written. I don't like most of the reboot, and there are multiple pre-reboot stories I don't like, but overall; it's a great comic that I love, and I would hardly change a thing about it. I'm glad that since the beginning of last year, the comic has gotten more attention. Considering how long it lasted, and the number of countries it was published in, it does have a lot of fans, regardless of what some people want you to believe.

@ravsucks

8 күн бұрын

@@bowserbreaker2515 No surprise it’s your favorite story “ArchieSonicFan” lol, but I totally agree! Even through its rough spots the only things I’d change would be the expulsion of the Penders characters. Still, I loved the post reboot designs, and I’m a fan of Archie Mega Man too, so Worlds Collide was cool.

@bowserbreaker2515

8 күн бұрын

@@ravsucks If the Penders characters were removed, the comic would be completely different. I like Julie-Su a lot, Geoffrey had a great story under Flynn and a decent one under Bollers, and the echidna lore is interesting, it was just presented poorly. The comic is so interesting and unique, and that is something I'll always treasure.

@ravsucks

8 күн бұрын

@@bowserbreaker2515 Oh no, sorry I misworded it. I meant the comic would be better if they hadn’t been expelled! I love them a lot.

@bowserbreaker2515

8 күн бұрын

@@ravsucks Penders had great ideas, he just wasn't a good writer. But I did genuinely enjoy some of his stories.

@ravsucks

8 күн бұрын

@@bowserbreaker2515 Mobius: 25 Years Later, the Dark Legion, the Robo-Robotnik reveal… it wouldn’t be the same without them. I can’t deny I love Ian Flynn’s renditions of a lot of Penders characters, but I also can’t say Penders didn’t have some good ideas.

This video slapped. Keep up the good work. Archie Sonic is fuckin' wild.

@ravsucks

12 күн бұрын

@@saint-juste Glad you liked it! Part 2 is in the works…

Awesome video

@ravsucks

12 күн бұрын

@@FormalFilmsProductions Thanks!!

@FormalFilmsProductions

12 күн бұрын

@@ravsucks Of course. Keep up thre great work

Curious question after you finish your archie sonic retrospective are you going to after IDW or Fleetway? Also is it weird that were 2 sonic comics that was made at the same time which is something you don't see often these days

@ravsucks

12 күн бұрын

@@sugarsmile7852 hmm, i wasn’t thinking of doing them at first, but after some other comments i’m thinking of doing fleetway! I love IDW but as it’s still ongoing, it’s hard to look back on it as a full story like I will Archie. Especially because my main talking point would be about SEGA’s restrictions on it and how it compares to Archie and Fleetway’s creative freedom. But maybe!

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@ravsucks

5 күн бұрын

i wish i had thought of this

Can you do The Crane Wives Next???

@ravsucks

12 күн бұрын

never heard of them, but i’ll give them a look!

When more music video essays?

@ravsucks

12 күн бұрын

soon, kitten

Bro please make more music dives ... 🙏🍻💦💦

@ravsucks

12 күн бұрын

coming up next i’ve got a video on another will wood album!

Hey uh, quick comment, there are a lot of small things that aren't exactly true and you used a image of rotor from ASO instead of a actual photo. You also seem nice to geoffry but mock the echidnas. The logic here doesn't make full sense. I am glad you are staying positive but you leave out a lot, especially how the sally miniseries was kinda really awful to sally. I won't be watching anymore but if you need any help fact checking for the next video, i most definitely would be willing to help

@ravsucks

12 күн бұрын

Ah, I knew something looked fishy about that Rotor image. My bad. Also, I’ll get into Geoffrey more in Part 2. The Echidna jokes are just light teasing, I promise… the KTE series is just the source of a lot of memes and stranger elements. I’m still a huge fan of Julie Su, Jani-Ca, Lien-Da, Enerjak, etc.

@espurrseyes42

11 күн бұрын

Geoffrey isn't an NFT before NFTs were a thing. At least he's an original design.

@mallowkai8702

11 күн бұрын

laaame gatekeeper

@ironpiyepic2666

11 күн бұрын

@@mallowkai8702 I litterally offered to help?

@ironpiyepic2666

11 күн бұрын

@espurrseyes42 I like Geoffry... just later in the comic. Plus you realize characters have more nuance than just how they look

I wonder if M & A.D.A.M. were the Inspiration for Sage?

@ravsucks

11 күн бұрын

@@conradojavier7547 Ian Flynn wrote Frontiers, so it’s entirely possible…

@sugarsmile7852

11 күн бұрын

Oh i got the joke it's Madam

@conradojavier7547

11 күн бұрын

​@@ravsucksalso The Mobile Games Merge Mina Mongoose & Amy Rose, into Popstar Amy.

@Miju001

7 күн бұрын

​@@ravsucks I don't think Sage was his idea though

ken penders is worst sonic writer ever ben hurst ian flynn shiro maekawa and daniel barnes are better sonic writers than that creep

@Endrgamr262

9 күн бұрын

That’s something we can all agree upon

@ashesGeek

5 күн бұрын

​@Endrgamr262 I disagree, Penders is decent writer who, sure, has enough of his idiot balls. Honestly, Tracy Yardley is worse than Penders, at least Ken was more creative to make up original stories and try to make them engaging instead of just repeating games plots everybody knows about.

@antyep

3 күн бұрын

…we’re talking about Penders, right? The guy who tried to turn Sonic into a bad Star Trek-esk sci-fi? Most evident in his Lara-Su Chronicles book or whatever it’s called… Turning the franchise into something else instead of well…Sonic the Hedgehog.

@ashesGeek

3 күн бұрын

@antyep Yeah, because game Sonic was SO consistent in comparison and never twisted its genre into something for hype right? I might say something controversial, but despite 2010's being mediocre in terms of Sega handling the franchise the game were more consistent in tone of Sonic than Shadow May Cry, Zelda and the Black Knight, Final Fantasy: Mephiles edition and Werehog's Mansion Besides, weren't Sonic Adventure 2 and Shadow game trying to do the same Star Trek thing too?

@antyep

3 күн бұрын

@@ashesGeek I don’t know what you mean about SA2 but just because Shadow has aliens doesn’t mean it’s Star Trek. By that logic, EVERY franchise that uses aliens is Star Trek. It’s the tone I’m talking about. But inconsistency isn’t what makes things bad, it’s how it’s done. And even though stuff like 06 is bad, it’s nothing compared to the crap Penders made especially his later work. Hell, he does not care about Sonic. He only uses it as a stepping stone for his own agenda, especially since his Lost Ones book flopped after ONE issue.