Kindred aren't death, they are the end. Some characters die and come back or avoid DEATH but they will meet their end. "what do all stories have in common, dear wolf? They end."

@chiangmei1265

Жыл бұрын

The truth is Death is how people of runeterra remember them, just like other "Deaths"

@autisonm

Жыл бұрын

@@chiangmei1265 First death (Kindred) is dying. Second death (The Etherfiend) is being forgotten. All spirits including Kindred die when they are forgotten, but death is an inevitability to anything living (even the reanimated, or "immortal") and so that means Kindred is by default the strongest champion.

@ionaskualexander1255

Жыл бұрын

@@autisonm Kindred is just a death spirit specifically on Runtera. It's not like they claim the souls of all the beings on the countless planets that A. Sol has seen for example. Kindred isn't as powerful as necrit thinks.

@autisonm

Жыл бұрын

@@ionaskualexander1255 There isnt life we know of outside of Runeterra

@mr.beanladen1469

Жыл бұрын

@@ionaskualexander1255 yep, necrit's vid was made before Kindred's latest lore where they were confirmed to be just A death spirit.

I can't stress this enough, Teemo is insane, he collects imaginary badges he makes up on his quest, in lore, even the people he served with in the Bandle City military thought he was insane and were afraid of him.

@TwiceMeDem

Жыл бұрын

and with omega skin lore it gets even worse, some quotes being: "You'd be surprised how quick fur ignites." "Good men die. I choose to live." "There's no such thing as collateral damage." making it clear that the furball is a seasoned veteran with heavy PTSD, who's really seen the worst

@itjustworks2993

Жыл бұрын

@@TwiceMeDem Omega Squad Teemo is one of the best legendaries riot has ever made. It fits his character too good

@gazelle_diamond9768

Жыл бұрын

@@TwiceMeDem "War didn't change me, I changed war!" "I've done things I'm not proud of." "Never. Get. Attached." "Peace is a fairy tale."

@eVill420

Жыл бұрын

@@TwiceMeDem that's not a man with PTSD, that's a man with something to hide.

@Colphin

Жыл бұрын

@@gazelle_diamond9768 So he's basically a vietnam vet with PTSD

Wolf: "It thinks it can beat us!" Lamb: "This is called... denial." Lamb: "All life is temporary." Wolf: "Who's next?" Lamb: "Everyone." Lamb: "All things, great and small... " Wolf: "...die." Lamb: "What do all stories have in common, dear Wolf?" Wolf: "They end."

@hasan3step570

Жыл бұрын

I read that in their voices

@DamnDaimen

Жыл бұрын

So when kindred's story ends and they die, who collects?

@shouldi9283

Жыл бұрын

The etherfiend is the one that collects them

@autisonm

Жыл бұрын

@@shouldi9283 And who collects the Etherfiend?

@prime_sol1610

Жыл бұрын

Mordekaiser laughing at this

You know as Powerful as the Protags in Arcane seemed they are Jokes compared to literal GODS in the other nations

@sqfzerzefsdf

Жыл бұрын

@Siplexus it's kinda what surprised me when arcane got announced, piltover is really interesting but as a nation it doesn't really reflect the universe they're in at all

@mathies3598

Жыл бұрын

@@sqfzerzefsdf that's exactly why the first show was in P&Z. Because it's grounded, relatable, human. Like don't get me wrong ATLA is really popular and people have magical abilities in Avatar, but good luck trying to introduce Aatrox to the general public. Or even like lux. Here's a girl who can manipulate light. "what other powers are there to control?" - oh, well, there's hemomancy, fire, demons, ascended, void, primordial dark magic, do i need to continue? Yeah, let's start with technology and chemicals.

@chiangmei1265

Жыл бұрын

I want Sol's POV when him look down Runeterra just kill some time while being imprison and start commentary, like the way he think the fight between solari and lunari is bullsh*t

@chifugod9232

Жыл бұрын

@@mathies3598 exactly, also i always tought that if they made a serie or an anime was going to be about Demacia and Noxus because are the two most known regions by the majority of the community but the way they made Piltover and Zaun in Arcane was perfect

@rupy0220

Жыл бұрын

@@mathies3598 I don't have any info but did Riot announce that Arcane is going to be anything out of Piltover and Zaun? The whole series can be 2 or 3 seasons can be all about just P&Z coz there is so much lore in those 2 Countries. I don't know about them announcing that the Arcane is going to cover the whole of Runeterra.

So, how I reason Kindred is pulled from their dialogue. "All THINGS must meet this man..." not all living things, not all dead things. All things. Also: "what do all stories have in common, dear wolf?" "They end."

@danzansandeev6033

Жыл бұрын

Everything dies. Even stars burn out

@_lime.

Жыл бұрын

Yeah except this is canonically proven not to be true at all. Firstly, there has never been an instance of someone who was living (and not about to die) meeting Kindred. So this rules out all Celestials as they are stated to have truly unlimited lifespans and therefore can never encounter them. Secondly, Mordekaiser never met them even though he did die. Which means that only cultures that believe in Kindred will meet them. Mordekaiser's culture had a Valhalla equivalent instead. It's also important to rank gods based on the level their power influence. Kindred is a Runeterran god, they are only worshiped on Runeterra. Conversely someone like Anivia is a Freljordian god, so only worshipped in the Freljord, so arguably lower. In contrast true Celestials like A Sol and Bard are cosmic beings that have influence over the entire universe, not just one planet.

@TheDoc_K

Жыл бұрын

​@@_lime. "If we ignore the fact that Kindred's form and shape are based on the culture of the people dying, and are not the actual form of the Death Spirit itself, then there's no way a Celestial, who I'm going to say lives forever and base that off of nothing, would meet them!"

@_lime.

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheDoc_K Canonically in the lore Celestials have an infinite lifespan, so they can't meet Kindred via a natural death. Equally it has been confirmed that only those who believe in Kindred will meet them when they die, so Kindred will never see a Celestial as they won't believe in a Runeterran god when they are universal gods themselves. More importantly the idea that Kindred is only a representation of death and not death itself is not something I came up with, the Riot team confirmed this (see tweets below). This is why we have other death gods in the lore like the Etherfiend, who has also been confirmed to be able to kill Kindred, so there is no way Kindred could be the strongest. In terms of the death of a Celestial, the only death we know of is Pantheon, who is also no longer dead, so it's hard to say if they can even die to begin with. Not to mention the only thing that could kill Pantheon was Aatrox, who is a human who became Ascended due to the power of Aurelion Sol, the Celestial of Creation. So only the power of a Celestial can kill a Celestial, and even then Pantheon is now alive again so can they truly be killed at all? Let me just sum things up in a clean way. Kindred is a Spirit God. Spirit Gods are representations of earthly phenomena given power by the belief of mortal worshippers. They can't be killed by mortal powers, however they can be forgotten. When forgotten they lose their power and are consumed by the Etherfiend. Celestials don't gain their power through belief, and so they can't be forgotten like Spirits, and they can't be consumed by the Etherfiend. By logic Celestial > Etherfiend > Kindred. Source: twitter.com/Riot_fizzNchips/status/1367672396652503041?s=20 twitter.com/Riot_fizzNchips/status/1367673190625939456 twitter.com/Riot_fizzNchips/status/1367674267584712705 twitter.com/Riot_fizzNchips/status/1367675109641576449 From Panth lore: "Just before he was about to be defeated, Atreus struck Aatrox's sword arm, detaching the Darkin from its host. This act brought back Pantheon's constellation into the sky" It's almost like everything I said is based on actual lore and comments made by the people who wrote it and not some rabid fanboying for a champion.

@harz632

Жыл бұрын

@@_lime. Exactly, this is why I don't think Kindred should be that high up, she might be the most powerful (although we would never know since she would never fight a celestial being in the first place) but since she only ever encounters believers and she can only harm them if they basically already are dead that means that even someone as weak as Graves could basically beat her as she has no way of defeating him.

54:17 Ah yes, the stronger of the primal gods: THE VOLLEYBALL

@n0bleonline222

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@chunchunmaru1995

Жыл бұрын

dude asjkfas

@skipp3252

Жыл бұрын

all worship the mighty volleyball!

@PsychoDiesel48

Жыл бұрын

@@skipp3252 Volleyball Volibear is a skin I need NOW!!!! XD

@Squeekysquid

Жыл бұрын

@@PsychoDiesel48 I imagine him as an outside hitter, or wing spiker just off his ult, although he'd probably make a good middle blocker.

you will be surprised with the size of each champion according to the lore

@Shythalia

Жыл бұрын

You will be surprised with the size of THIS DI-

@Pipipipoopoop

Жыл бұрын

Watching her react just makes my blood boil

@divinrth5187

Жыл бұрын

@@Pipipipoopoop same

the constant "Ooooooow" made it impossible for me to look the entire video

"where the fck is teemo" The sheer realization that the rank is getting higher and that teemo is nowhere to be found is hilarious.

Seems a good time to point out that one of the things that most impressed me with Arcane isn't about what's in the show, it's about what's NOT in the show. Arcane was such a cohesive story with every character (champion or not) serving a purpose, and yet it COULD have just been a rambling mess of fanservice cameos and sprawling convolution trying to fit every region into the first season. The restraint to keep it focused in service of the story's impact is really impressive. Far too many media properties overuse the whole "oh hey, look, it's ___________! You know __________ from our other thing, you LOVE __________! This story is a mess but so what because you got to see __________!" *cough* Kenobi *cough*

@blackirontarkus3997

Жыл бұрын

yeah hit the nail on the head with that one chief

Rell: "So you're mordekaiser? All metal? I can take you." Sorry Rell, but no. No you can't. Run.

@user-pu5yj4gz5o

Жыл бұрын

she can tho

@FutayuriShironeko

Жыл бұрын

She literally hardcounters him in lore. Since his form is metal and she is feromancer, Morde wouldnt even be able to move or do anything if she wanted to.

@stanislavsilvestrov4405

Жыл бұрын

@@FutayuriShironeko Unless his attack potency and Defensive capabilities are way above hers... which they are, also he can use necromantic magic and all that as well.

@Merilirem

Жыл бұрын

@@stanislavsilvestrov4405 The first time they fight he would be blindsided and lose quickly before he could mount a comeback. He's too much his armor in the mortal world to resist her before he knows she exists. The second time, well she better have powered up considerably.

@krisztianmolnar8282

Жыл бұрын

@@FutayuriShironeko But what if Mordekaiser raw power far stronger than Rell ability?

I think the best way to look at it is that Kindred is the concept of death and dying. Clearly Mordekaiser isn’t scared of death, but he has died. Aurelion is ageless, but he can be tethered, and he can be destroyed, though being an ultra powerful celestial being, that would obviously be really hard.

@Iamthecrazyone

Жыл бұрын

@Juan By normal means? 100%, but remember that the other Celestials fear the Void. The Void wants to unmake all of existence, which Aurelion is a part of, and the Celestials are trying to keep them from doing that, which is why they tricked Aurelion to begin with. He’s one of if not the most powerful Celestial, but he is still a Celestial and they’ve died before.

@gazelle_diamond9768

Жыл бұрын

Mordekaiser is absolutely afraid of death, just not in the way you think. Mordekaiser doesn't fear the first death..... but the second.

@Iamthecrazyone

Жыл бұрын

@Juan Atreus was the aspect of Pantheon, god of War, who is, or was seeing as he was killed, a Celestial. Aspects are the mortals that act as hosts to their power. Celestials are 100% killable.

@Nick-nb2oz

Жыл бұрын

@@Iamthecrazyone celestial is just the runeterran name for aliens, there are tons of types of celestials, aspects may be celestials but they are nowhere near what Aurelion is. They're more like an advanced magical society on a different realm but that's all. Aurelion created the galaxies from which even they were born.

@Nick-nb2oz

Жыл бұрын

in my opinion kindred are overrated, they are simply a messenger, like Charon from greek mythology, the guy who guided on a boat the souls to the underworld, or rather Thanatos who kinda did the same but he was the step before Charon. Yea Kindred can take the souls out of mortal bodies but then what? Some can just come back and some simply can't even die cuz they're spirits or whatever the hell Aurelion is, the only thing I'd give kindred is that you can't attack or kill death itself, however if there was a being that could erradicate life then death would also cease to exist, then someone like Aurelion or the Watchers would beat Kindred.

Kindred isnt literally "Death" him/itself. They're a spirit that exists as the concept of death. If there are still people that know death as a concept then Kindred exists. They will essentially "outlive" any creature that knows of death, regardless of whether that creature is reanimated/undead or immortal.

@lordtrollage2819

Жыл бұрын

yeah, thats why kindred have no power/influence on the shadow isles

@cherrymewy

Жыл бұрын

oh my god this makes perfect sense youre incredibly intelligent, i literally gasped after reading this and comprehending it in my mind

if you want more of scary Teemo, you should really look at his Omega Squad voicelines and the like he is one scary man

Keep in mind for pantheon this was before his the call story i think necrit would rank him higher after pantheon fought leona without his powers

@TheOverVoid827

Жыл бұрын

*atreus fought leona without using pantheon powers

@popkhorne5372

6 ай бұрын

I also think Aatrox deserves to be a bit higher. Which only reinforces how badass it was of Atreus to survive where Pantheon died.

Kindred is said to be there in the end of everything, so evend spirits and gods are "ending" one day. Is kinda more then simply death. There's even a line that wolf asks if in the end, when there's only them, if lamb will run from him, and lamb says she will never run from him. So i guess is more in that direction but who really knows.

@raffaele94full

Жыл бұрын

ironically, when thy will remain alone, they won't even be able to kill each other. Wolf kills the ones that run from death, but lamb wont do that. and Lamb kills those who accept death and i doubt wolf would accept without a fight

@autisonm

Жыл бұрын

@@raffaele94full They only die when the concept of death itself is forgotten.

@gazelle_diamond9768

Жыл бұрын

@@raffaele94full That is why they will be taken by the last being in existence after them. The second death, the one who picks on the remains. The Etherfiend.

The 10 “kings” aka primordial demons where the first demons to come into existence. Like their name implies, the feelings they represent where much more primal than for example Tahms addiction, such as sidle with fear and Nilahs demon as joy. Because of their age and the fact that these simple feelings are much more powerful and common, the primordial demons where really powerful. We aren’t sure what happened to a lot of them. We know that Nilahs demon is locked away, and that Fiddle is running around his a bunch of keys, one even stolen by Zoe, so perhaps fiddle is the one that consumed the power of the other “kings” by locking them away.

@billalchaouche8820

Жыл бұрын

The spirit of tibbers might be a primordial demon too

Love how shimmer just completely upends several of the scalings on this list lol

One thing to note about Pyke with this video is that we aren't actually sure if he is connected to Nagakaborous. As the thing he serves and mentions is called the Swimming City, something of which nobody really knows anything about. It being a place of magic and motion would help answer why Pyke passed the test of Nagakaborous, but we don't currently have enough lore to know much about it, aside from the fact that it is a real place, and it is what brought Pyke back. Nautilus most likely was brought back by Nagakaborous though, due to how he sinks ships that do not pay their tithe to the Bearded Lady and his devotion to her when he was alive.

as a jaded 10 year vet in this community. It's great to see you enjoying the lore and the universe. It's like reliving all the good memories I've had through your eyes.

As a reaction to the immortals being above death, League lore mentions multiple time that even immortals, even those who somehow manage to being reborn after dying, will eventually permanently die. Immortality and being able to be reborn doesn't mean you can never die and eventually, even if it takes multiple eternities, they will permanently die and meet Kindred.

@GiRR007

Жыл бұрын

Kindrid is just a spirit that embodies the idea of death. Kindrid isnt death itself. And since spirits draw their power from the belief of mortals if people stop believing in kindred she loses her power. Power wise kindred should be below the targonian aspects, shuriman ascended, darkin and mordekaiser.

@1995Milky1995

Жыл бұрын

@@GiRR007 That makes no sense because nothing will stop believing in death or the end. It is the one definite of all life and existence. It cannot be changed nor denied therefore it will always be so. Theoretically speaking.

@GiRR007

Жыл бұрын

@@1995Milky1995 Oh no, im not saying people have to stop believing in death as a concept all together. I'm saying all they have to do is stop believing in the fable of KINDRED specifically. At which point kindred loses more and more power depending on just how many people stop believeing in her, like all spirits in runeterra do.

@1995Milky1995

Жыл бұрын

@@GiRR007 But it's been mentioned that kindred is not just the fable, kindred we know is one of the fables but Kindred is known by many as many names. Kindred are the end not the fable. I hope that makes sense. If lore were to explained to be otherwise in the future and Kindred are only the fable then I agree with you.

@GiRR007

Жыл бұрын

@@1995Milky1995 Well obviously shes not JUST a fable, shes a spirt. Spirits are very real creatures in runeterra but spirits do get their power from the belief of humans. Similar to janna, janna is a spirit of wind but when people stopped believing in her she got weaker, but when people started believing in her again she got more powerful. ALOT of people in runeterra believe in kindred or some form of kindred thus shes really powerful.

Keep in mind, that all of this is just Necrit's educated opinion. Plus he made his personal rules for this list, which also shuffled a lot of characters.

My knowledge of lore is a bit outdated but I remember with Teemo that he has this thing where he just turns his emotions off and becomes a ruthless hunter when he's on the job. From his bio: "Despite his genuinely warm personality, something switches off inside Teemo's mind during combat so that the lives he must end while on patrol do not burden him." So yeah, Keanu Reeves during the day, John Wick during the night XD

Necrit literally said just because a champion is above another, doesn't mean it is stronger

@michaelh878

Жыл бұрын

Then what is the point of the list?

@gorgistanojevik3196

Жыл бұрын

​@@michaelh878 The above is wrong I believe he said something along the lines of ",If a champion's power level is higher than another it doesn't mean that particular champion will win in combat vs another" he also had an explanation with using Sett and Lillia as examples but I don't want to butcher it so I just think you suould watch the video again

@Sooooyaaaaaaaaa

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelh878 it's their raw powers. Like jinx and Vi, Vi is higher than Jinx but, though Jinx lower than Vi, we knew she would demolished Vi in the distance and Vi did not manage to get close to Jinx. And vice versa Vi would demolished Jinx in close combat. I can't really explain well but idk😂

If you're also wanting a general feel for the larger world of League of Legends, Necrit very recently made videos explaining the regions of Runeterra, as well as the various races that populate it. They really build up anticipation for the MMO Riot is working on.

I love an hour of her going “ooohhhh” “rightttt” “yeah” “mmmm”

“Immortality is a lie, this I know”- Pantheon

Ya should definitely read the short stories twilight of the Gods, and where Icathia once stood, they’re some of Riot’s best short stories imo. Necrit has a video on both of them actually

@lunarevel

Жыл бұрын

Where Icathia Once Stood is insane, it’s soooo good

As powerful as kindred is, in the lore there is even a death god for them, their end. If you want a cool story, i would advice you to read the story: finishing soate. It shows the 4 death spirits in a real cool fashion.

@negate4828

Жыл бұрын

Yeah these are just champions tho. There are way more gods out there that are stronger than most if not all champs in the lore. The Mask Mother has to be stronger than everybody except Asol because she literally creates Death

@90bubbel60

Жыл бұрын

@@negate4828 the watchers?

@negate4828

Жыл бұрын

@@90bubbel60 I feel like Zoe could handle a watcher or two. If Lissandra could freeze them I doubt Zoe can't do anything to them

@90bubbel60

Жыл бұрын

@@negate4828 yeah doubt it, the watchers are the singular most powerfull beings that we know of, (outside of maybe kindred,) the only reason she could freeze them was because she had originally borrowed their power to open the rift but realized what would happen if they got through and instead used it to freeze them ,( if i remember correctly)

@negate4828

Жыл бұрын

@@90bubbel60 Still think Zoe would be able to kill one but I see where you're coming from

Sis really said, "Okay now I understand, even though I don't have any idea what this is..."

About the Ten Kings, Nilah possesses the power of another one, Ashlesh the Ur-Demon of Joy.

So since that video was released we got Vex, Zeri, Renata, Bel'Veth, and Nilah. The only one I know for sure would be high up is Bel'Veth, there's some insane lore around that one.

Teemo being a better assassin than Talon, Samira, and Katarina is terrifying to me. Imagine hearing "Captain Teemo reporting for duty 😊" before getting hit with a blow dart

@RickPhoenix001

Жыл бұрын

*Dead* 🤣

Not sure if this is something i made myself, or is from the old lore o from this lore, but i heard that Mordekaiser didn't came back by himself. He was "resurrected" by some people that thought they could control Mordekaiser, because if the say his name he would die again or something, but they didn't know Mordekaiser's name changed when he died from Sahn-Uzal to Mordekaiser, because of some language in the death realm or something, so they couldn't control him and he kill them all

@IoniaZero

Жыл бұрын

Mordekaiser tricked those mages to bring him back to life, but at that moment he wasn't Sahn Uzal anymore (and Mordekaiser is from a death tongue so NOBODY, except the primal demons and Kindred probably can talk it) but in the actual time, Mordekaiser has the resources to return by his own already, he just was waiting (for what I wonder)

@dandresroa1235

Жыл бұрын

@@IoniaZero Got it, thanks for the info

No character is truly immortal. Not a single one of them can exist for eternity. Not a single one except, perhaps.... the Etherfiend.

Let me just correct one thing. Necrit is not 100% accurate and has to throw some speculation in. He too gets things wrong from time to time like all human being do. Kindred being number 1 was one of these cases. Kindred is a manifestation of the concept of death itself but they are not truly death itself. They merely represent it. As far as we know Kindred is the 3rd version of death. Before that they were the "pale man" and before the "pale man" was the "fading icon" who is getting slowly forgotten and is fading out of existence due to the cultural collapse that happen at the runewars. Kindred is bound to mortal beliefs of runeterra where as other champions such as Bard and Asol will outlast runeterra with ease. Also Vigeo and Morderkaiser exist so death is nothing but a formality at this point.

@goldlight1322

Жыл бұрын

There are even death spirits other than the ones you mentioned; The Etherfiend, Astral Fox, First Wave and Last Wind. They are all death spirits, who were seemingly created by the Mask Mother. Even then, it’s not clear if MM is the original, true death entity.

@thanasiselkas1021

Жыл бұрын

Kindred lore wasn't updated yet he can't see the future

@rayzuke1232

Жыл бұрын

@@thanasiselkas1021 2 things. 1. Correct 2. It still wasn't accurate back then.

If you're interested in watching more Necrit videos I would recommend these 2: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g2h91pihktHFpbg.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZZZs25hxesS-Zag.html They are both pretty fun and let you know more about the characters without going feeling to heavy.

Fun Fact: Yumi's Master will be revealed in the next Legends of Runeterra expansion!!!!

The cinematic you were referring to with lux is semi canon, and as covered by necrit hints at garen, and a small loyal detachment of soldiers know her secret. Hence when galio was called in (the people of demacia don't know he can be woken alive by a mage) the soldiers setup in position behind her instead of running away and abondoning her for being a mage. They seemed to already know, as they really didn't seem to need a lot of time to process

14:20 thats why he made the clarification of power level at the beginning. Cait unharmed or up close wpuld loose against Mundo. But this is not a 1v1 where many variables would determine the outcome (close=Mundo wins, far away=cait wins) this is how powerful they are in a general sense, not strictly combat, not strictly 1v1's. Being a strategist makes u strong in many scenarios but u cant outthink mundos musles in a 1v1 in an alley for example. Love the video btw! Im glad ur reacting to this. :)

Wanted to say, in Arcane: The bridge scene with Ekko, ekko doesn't have time manipulation then. He only gets it when he makes a time engine using a hextech stone. He just flat out won against Jinx.

I suggest reading Teemo's lore. It's siad that he is pretty chill and fun to hang out with - when he is not on a mission. Because when he is n teh job, he become most cold-blooded assasin there is. Well, maybe cold-bloded is not right, because it wa sheavly implied that he actually enjoy wreacking havock. He is essentialy a psychopath.

I'm glad that you are getting into the lore of majority of these characters. If you like lyricism you might want to check the This Is War series by FalconShield. it's up to 7 songs that get majority of the characters.

I totally agree with the controversial placement in Kindred above Aurelion Sol. My statement is that if Aurelion Sol did not create the universe, Runeterra alone, Kindred would not exist as a form of belief in a manifestation of death. Aurelion Sol simply created tge foundation of all life. So I'd put him above the Kindred. But that's just my opinion

I love your longer videos!

I really think the next time Necrit posts something like this, Jinx will be little higher on the list, atleast above vi, cait, and/or jayce, because of Arcane, as well as Annie, since right now, she's been training with the mages in Noxus.

@mr.beanladen1469

Жыл бұрын

Kindred would probably be lowered too since based on the latest lore she is not the personification of death but just A personification of death.

@locke8412

Жыл бұрын

first the smoke, then the fire then the TIBBERS

@TheRealRightPrice

Жыл бұрын

Arcane isn't canon to league of legends, so Jinx's Shimmer enhancements from Arcane won't apply.

It's so hard to separate the power level of lore verses the actual champion power from gameplay for me lol

The lux comic is a hidden gem, it's called "Lux" and the comic is basically about lux and sylas' relationship and how Demacians treat mages

It's funny because he says Jinx is a crazy woman with guns so she is weak, but afterwards says Caitlyn/Jace/Vi have powerful weapons... Idk if in the lore Jinx has the rocket, but a missile is more powerful than a rifle/hammer/metal gloves

@Merilirem

Жыл бұрын

Not those specific ones plus the other factors like training. Big boom is not how power is being measured here. A sniper like Cait has a lot of power even if she's also a Glass cannon like Jinx. Though i do suspect Arcane Jinx of being stronger in the future than League Lore Jinx.

@mrt5386

Жыл бұрын

@@Merilirem I don't deny the fact that Caitlyn with his training should be higher than someone like Jinx, but sometimes says things like "Alistar is powerful but anyone with a little bit of training can autmanouver"( sorry, i don't know how to spell it), and after a lot of characters makes the statement of "Gragas is a freldjordian so is powerful, but doesn't have a weapon". I mean, characters with similar capabilities and characteristics are placed in very different spots in this ranking for the most absurd reason he can think of.

You earned my "like" after saying "I'm learning all the lore of the champions"

Immortal does not mean unkillable, they will just live forever until they are killed. Attrox killed a god. Gods are immortal. Eventually Mordekaiser will probably be topped and erased for good.

I have the theory that Mordekaiser is the first human who escaped from the Wolf

@marvinsantiago5363

Жыл бұрын

Well as you said it is a theory but wolf will only appear if a soul tries to escape death where as mordekaiser would embrace it technically kindred didnt appear during his death as his belief is in the hall of bones which in this case doesn't exist

@gazelle_diamond9768

Жыл бұрын

No, he didn't, because he died.

I'd strongly suggest looking into Necrit's recent set of videos where he is speculating about various aspects of the upcoming Riot MMO. So far he's talked about the World of Runeterra as a fairly brief overview of each area, the Races and Classes that may appear (I'd expect the races to be more interesting to you if you don't have an interest in the MMO as it's mainly talking about the races that are common enough around the world, while the classes he's more speculating a single style of combat for various roles per region), and the possible Raid Bosses which he is briefly talking about some of the more major events that are predicted to happen (e.g. the Watchers waking up from Lissandra's power) or strong characters in the universe that would make sense to fight

Before the massive lore rewrite teemo's lore was he was a yordle special forces assassin who worked with tristana with some kind of implied mental illness. Tristana said he was the best she ever saw but was also terrified of him. He's been nuts from the beginning, even in-game he carries around a backpack full of land mines like it's nothing Never underestimate the power of the scouts' code

from what i can say about your question on kindred: they mention undead/reborn characters "eluding" them, not escaping them. They also say those that come back, wish they hadn't. All this seems to imply the Kindred still get them

I think a good next step for your journey into League lore would be to watch one of Necrit's latest videos "The world for Riot's MMO is already done". In that video he covers pretty much all regions' main lore.

You should definitely react to Kayn next, he’s got some of the best quotes out there and such a dynamic interaction with Rhaast

As Kindred said : "Those who avoid us wish they hadden't." Nobody beated Kindred, Kindred simply let them avoid them.

One important thing here is: Jinx is only this low because this list came before Arcane, and now we know that Fishbones is actually a hextec cannon, so that should put her a few positions up

@TheRealRightPrice

Жыл бұрын

Arcane isn't canon to league of legends, totally different world and lore. It's for that same reason that her Shimmer enhancements from Arcane won't be applicable either.

I really love the fact that in League of Legends, most of the champions are just "He's a guy who can throw a punch. He's a guy with a gun. He's a guy with a sword. He's a guy with magic. He's a guy who punches people with a magic gunsword." A mortal is someone who faces death and loses. An immortal is someone who never faces death at all. Someone who resurrects is someone who faced death, lost, and is en route for a rematch. Mordekaiser is the king of the dead, but he still died. He comes back in an undead form, but never regains his life.

I think Arcane Jinx would be a little higher, surely above Draven. In Arcane, she gets superpowers on top of all the guns and gadgets, and Draven is a guy with two axes or whatever they are.

@greenin5537

Жыл бұрын

In the comic with Draven and Darius you can see that both brothers were initially military trained, and Swain even used Draven to overthrow the Noxian emperor. But Draven got bored as a soldier waiting for orders because he only wants fame, so he left and started to execute people and turning that into a show. And they also had some street experience being orphans in their town. So might not have a full training like his brother o like someone like Caitlyn, because he kind of dropped off, but he can surely take on Jinx. Now the real twist is that this video was before Arcane, and Idk if Necrit knew it but I didn't know about Jinx being shimmered up, so that may bring her up.

@kaijingarou6526

Жыл бұрын

@@greenin5537 I'm talking about Arcane all the time, said it twice, and I doubt he would take on that Jinx.

@p0sh77

Жыл бұрын

@@kaijingarou6526 Ehh, Ekko won over her. Draven helped Swain take over Noxus, also fighting Riven and held his own.

@kaijingarou6526

Жыл бұрын

@@p0sh77 Yes and she hadn't superpowers yet... They Shimmered her up right after that.

Caitlyn being naked in a shower and covered in soapy water was quite a huge disadvantage for he when Jinx kidnapped her. Also Cait in Arcane is X amount of years before League of Legends lore kicks in. Cait we see in Arcane is barely doing anything - we see her sniper talent on display and we know that she's smart, whilst Cait in lore is like one of the best cops by the time she gets there.

teemo warned us to NEVER underestimate the power of the scout's code

But it's good to remember that when Lulu was in the Glade, describe as "a place of raw primordial magic" she became one of the most powerful creatures alive, whoever, she don't know how to return to the Glade but she is trying to get back there once more, whenthis happens just imagine what can she does with all that primordial magic in her hands

if you think teemo isnt a master assassin, peep his omega squad skin / voice lines. its more akin to his lore. Tristana said "teemo is someone whom you WANT to have on your side"

Very cool reaction , 1 thing you need to understand tho . Necrit did this video a while back ALSO he is not very good at power levels and such , he is THE lore guy after all not THE power level guy. Arcane came out later and shifted the power of some of these characters , for example Jinx should be way higher from what we seen so far , she is very smart and also bery strong now because of shimmer. Anyway , thank you for this reaction.

@toamszkozak8822

Жыл бұрын

I don't think so, Jinx seems powerfull in Arcane but she's still weak compared to others

@gazelle_diamond9768

Жыл бұрын

Arcane isn't canon though...

I would definetly enjoy a reaction to Necrits MMO videos.

Death is not the only end, destruction is also an end and then theres an END ending like when things cease to exit either because they are forgotten or erased so technically all things can end one way or another and when that end comes they meet the Kindred

Kindred is a personified death or simply just the end, basically. They don't really die because they are death itself in a form of Hunter. If it's your time to die, it's either you embrace it which favors Lamb, or struggle to escape but still eventually die which favors Wolf. It actually would be nice if they have someone the would symbolize as the beginning so Kindred would have an opposite. But it would feel like it would be Aurelion who could be the creator which could be a beginning of something.

Every Necrit video is a must 👌

Hell yeah. I was at least three of those people recommending Necrit content. ^^

Considering that Teemo's mushrooms are literally mines, That would make Teemo a literal, actual war criminal by our standards.

Teemo is basically a psychopathic war criminal who specializes in stealth. Tristana once said seeing him in battle, she’s thankful he’s on their side

The picture on the left with Jinx and Vi looks amazing! Where can i get that?

nothing is 100% imortal, like Mordekaiser can be beaten for Rell if she knows how to use her powers, the celestials/ aspects and Darkins can be killed by other celestials/ aspects/ darkins, Lissandra is dying too because for hold the whatchers away of runeterra she need to feed them with her own essence so she can’t do this forever otherwise she will be just a empty body

This video is pretty accurate, Bel'Veth is the most powerful new champion put in league since this video, I think this video is something like three years old, it's on Freljord demi-god/Darkin level imo. The only problem is Necrit is seriously underating the power of hextech as a whole which is just magic adapted into technology that anyone can use, Jinx is inherently weak because she's an emaciated 5'2 85 pound girl, but Pow-Pow and Fishbones are weapons of mass destruction born of magic. He's also underrating the fucking titans of League, Malphite, Galio, Nautilus, Trundle etc just based on the fact that these champs stand 20 times taller than most other champs it gives them a massive advantage in strength and endurance where it would take multiple champs to take them down otherwise it's fine. Just a few mistakes I feel like he made. Qiyana is like STUPID high on his list, she's talented, very talented but she's mortal putting her below Azir is madness, he's underrating Pantheon majorly as the guy defeated Aatrox he should be more powerful than the other mortal Aspects (Taric, Leona, Diana), Rammus didn't eat Voidborn they were just "Kmiros" little man-eating bugs that were getting killed by a teenager with a bow and arrow before he arrived to help them, realistically Rammus should be in the we don't know category as his lore is all about him being an enigmatic meme otherwise I sanction this list. This video is pretty reasonable for the date of it and is mostly accurate, but his "How old is each Champ" is really scuffed lol.

@greenin5537

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't put trundle as a titan like the others, he is more of a giant, like 11 foot tall.

@JustAlex2000

Жыл бұрын

Actually I'd honestly argue that Nilah is above Bel'veth. If Swain was that high wielding powers of a lesser demon, Nilah fully submitted herself to the powers of a Primordial demon. In her legend she hunts massive magical monsters for fun. While Bel'Veth has dominance and sheer numbers like Rek'sai, as well as a sacrifice of thousands of souls, I doubt her powers really compare to a primordial demon.

@MINECRAFTERO657

Жыл бұрын

Wasnt this video like not much long after Panth rework? We didnt really know a lot about him then.

@nateperkins9860

Жыл бұрын

"underrating Pantheon majorly as the guy defeated Aatrox he should be more powerful than the other mortal Aspects" this would be true if Pantheon was still Pantheon. the "Pantheon" we have now is Atreius, his aspect is dead and he is tapping into it occasionally. The rest are in sync with their aspects.

@MrMeddyman

Жыл бұрын

@@greenin5537 Scale is something that varies heavily across Riot properties because they're all doing their own thing, but at least in his splash art if you look at what his hand is on (a human being) it's clear he's like 25-30 feet tall, in LoR the trolls are the size of houses by the look of Troll Chargers, he's still bloody massive, bigger than Sion for sure and Sion is like 3-4 Irelias tall

In a voiceline kindred interacts with amumu but it's only telling amumu that they understand the loneliness but stay away

As for kindred, none of the characters have died so any of them COULD have the potential to beat out death, but realistically, eventually there will be a time where Mordekaiser died for the last time, there will be a time where Olaf's prophecy fails or Tryndamere isn't too angry to die anymore. If nothing else, the eventual end of Runeterra (as the star might come too close and burn the planet) would end all champions except celestials, Aurelion sol and Kindred. Even when Aurelion sol gets worn out for whatever reason far after the fall of Runeterra, the concept of death, and with that, Kindred, will still exist.

@chiangmei1265

Жыл бұрын

U need read new lore of kindred, they now just a spirit and people now day remember at Death, if people of Runeterra start forget Kindred sure they will meet their the end like the other Deaths, Kindred just popular than the other Deaths, sure everything in universe will death but not because of Kindred and sure not because when Runeterra exits, dont try romanticize Kindred, they not only one

@homelander746

Жыл бұрын

Mordekaiser will never die bruh he is literally the God of death

@mathies3598

Жыл бұрын

@@homelander746 and kindred IS death

@gazelle_diamond9768

Жыл бұрын

@@chiangmei1265 Literally has never been said, but okay.

@gazelle_diamond9768

Жыл бұрын

@@homelander746 Uh.... no. Not really. He's just a really powerful necromancer.

You may come back from death, but when you die again you will have to meet kindred again, and you can't kill death

I just love the idea of a puny little lamb and fox creature chasing after a literal celestial giant with a bow and arrow, just going "I don't care how huge you are, space dragon, come taste my arrows of doom!"

all things tend to decay, even the universe will snuff out one day

I would assume anything "immortal" just hasnt met its final fate yet. Some may not die of ol age or cant be killed by blades or even come back from death. But at some point through whatever means they will meet their end anyways.

Oh yeah, pls react to the "MMO is already done" video. Although, there might be 1 or 2 spoilers of the Ruination Event we had in League. So it's completely up to you to skip the part where Necrit talks about the Shadow Isles/Camavor... or not (No spoilers for the Ruined King game). He also made a follow up video for the MMO where he talks about the different Races and Classes. That one might also be interesting for you. And he has 2 more videos about the MMO in the works. 1 for Raid Bosses and 1 for Armor.

Where did you get those/that prints of Jinx and Vi ?

OMG the poster of vi and jinx, I need it

13:45 she's older in the game, so you can expect she's trained in CQC, while Vi is trained for street fighting.

Yup Teemo is walking a very fine line between chill dude and full time killer. In fact the omega squad skin shows pretty much how teemo would act like if he becomes a fully cold blooded assassin.

finally, my life is complete.

ekko did not have the time manipulation abilitie in the show, the scene depicts him rmembering her childhood shooting pattern. he developes his technologie to reverse time later on.

Where did you get those Jinx and Vi wall scrolls? I must buy them XDD

People have a completely wrong idea of ​​kindred, thinking that it actually represents the end, an idea that no longer makes sense, because in Legends of Runeterra, several other kindred-like spirits appear and more, kindred depends on the faith of mortals to continue to exist, all of Kindred's power and his "all things come to an end" line refers to the plane of Runeterra, not universal, Aurelion is literally Omnipotent on his cosmic plane, and the aspects only "control" him using blackmail, and not a control he cannot resist. It is because of him that all living beings exist now, including gods and spirits, everything was born from his stars. Not to mention the creatures he can create, only they are stronger than all the characters in this tierlist. No immortality is compared to the existence of the ASol which transcends time, the death or end only apply in things under the time, but the concept of time dont apply on Aurelion. Anyone who thinks kindred is stronger is uninformed that's the truth.

From what I remember Kindred only exist if you believe in them in the case of mordekaiser he has a different belief which is a seat in the hall of bones after death. Aatrox on the other hand is the sword itself I am not sure how Kindred works when it comes to sentient weapons basically the body is just a puppet with no soul and is just taking commands from aatrox. As for aurelion sol its kinda weird since not sure if he created the planet which is now rune terra and what his beliefs are. Kindreds default look and spirit blossom kindred are from what i blieve are the real representation of them with the latter being ionia.

@greenin5537

Жыл бұрын

Is not like he "is" the sword, but more like his entire being was sealed inside the sword. So maybe in a future there would be a way to free him using the chalicar blade again. Darkin's weapons are their prisons like Aatrox says.

@marvinsantiago5363

Жыл бұрын

@@greenin5537 thanks for being more specific on aatrox is inside the sword. The concern here is more on how kindred works when it comes to darkin

Yeah, he was under the assumption that if those characters meet their end, Kindred would still be there. Definitely wrong.

There are a lot of vastayan races, some look more like a human with animal features some looks in the middle like wukong and some looks waay more like animals them they do humans "I don't think we have any of those in the actual game, but we've seen them in a art about the vastayan races"

Jax way higher than I expected, but now imagine if he had a real weapon

Aurelion Sol is definitely the most powerful champ. Kindred is just a spirit, a powerful one at that because most people believe in them. But from Legends of Runtera we know that there are other death spirits like Kindred that are fading because people stopped believing in them. Janna has the same issue. People don't really believe in her so she's weak. Also you make a good point. Looking at Yone, Pyke, the shadow isles as a whole... Kindred are pretty s#itty at their job

@godofgames6366

Жыл бұрын

exactly its a bias list.

@sqfzerzefsdf

Жыл бұрын

aurelion is chained. kindred is still believed in and they're in a pretty safe spot where people especially the ones that avoided death and aurelion himself won't be able to just stop believing in them. You can say they're "shitty at their job" but they have all of eternity to work with. saying aurelion is better just because kindred is "only a spirit" on a theoretical level doesn't reflect current state of affairs.

@adamshev5105

Жыл бұрын

@@sqfzerzefsdf I think Kindred more like spirit of death for mortals. Aurelion Sol is his voiceline tells about his own way to live and die, and he also knew about Kindred. Soo, I think his death not mortal death, but complete oblivion by the Void maybe

@gazelle_diamond9768

Жыл бұрын

Except that is not what Kindred are.

@Whysoshort

Жыл бұрын

Please keep in mind this list was created before the LoR set with Kindred came out and we still thought Kindred was the only Death

Annie shot waay up the list due to her new story. Shes the Vessel of Tybaulk. if want to get specific technically the vessel is the toy bear but you get the picture

If you're looking for more on The Ten Great Kings, Necrotic has a lore video on Nylah.

Teemo is the devil, the pure representation of evil, carnage, destruction and despair

Oh yeah one more thing about Teemo, in his omega squad skin it's canon that he has PTSD