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Great video. The gear loop is stronger than I expect. The CE standard for belay loop is 15 KN. So 19 kn in this test is pass the standard.

@kilianhzh

2 жыл бұрын

if im not mistaken most belay loops are made to withstand 22kN which is kinda overkill :)

@Mebh547

Жыл бұрын

I wonder how strong my cheap camp energy nova climbing harness's belay loop is. It looks kinda flimsy compared to some of the expensive harnesses

Nice! Good test. Thank you)

i have a big gun blackdiamond harness and i love it extremely comfortable

nice job Ryan

Greate Video. I would like to ask you to test a PAS on belay loop or tie in point.

Watching that makes me wonder what the break point of a human waist would be! Not volunteering to get in the machine but 13 kN is a lot of force on hip bones or a spine.

@eyescreamcake

3 жыл бұрын

They need to break test a climber

@pentachronic

3 жыл бұрын

The parachute model is 12kN for severe body damage (broken bones etc).

@pentachronic

3 жыл бұрын

books.google.com/books?id=dnwCEgahJmUC&pg=PA236&lpg=PA236&dq=12kN+parachute+standard&source=bl&ots=35E73rTfJO&sig=ACfU3U230-IjlCA4GjZyv_dpnf0YWdGGYQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOlJjzvqzxAhXStp4KHUW6DKYQ6AEwEXoECBIQAw#v=onepage&q=12kN%20parachute%20standard&f=false

@TrackpadProductions

Жыл бұрын

@@pentachronic Still better than death, though.

Did you try sample "420" before recording? ^^

Hay Ryan wear do I buy some of your gear T shirts stuff to help out the channel I love watching you blow shit up thanks for all the info you provide us on the gear we all use

Can you test a repelling harness??

I'd like to know what kind Ryan uses. Might get a Waldo or long haul

Would love to see a petzl sitta break test :D

@HowNOT2

5 жыл бұрын

Oh man, it is brutal to be breaking $200 harnesses haha. Want to sponsor it??? :) We have other (normal) harness break tests done that are coming soon.

@lucarizzi4783

Жыл бұрын

Now si 130€

Can you please explain why every week I place my life in the trust of one little material loop? I feel like I want some redundancy. Is it really that reliable?

Excuse me how do you stretch the rope between the two mountains when you do slackline?

@HowNOT2

5 жыл бұрын

we get a tag line across the gap 1 way or another, pull our webbing over, fix it to one side, then use a webbing clamp and pull it with pullies and that gets inserted into what we call a weblock to hold that webbing in place. We use two webbings for redundancies and two rings that we tie into that slide across the webbing so we are able to do it safely. Check out our videos as we dive really deep on how to rig them up. Rigging examples are some of the best start to finish episodes

@professorsogol5824

4 жыл бұрын

Look up Tyrolean traverse and read all about it.

Is it safe to use a 8 year old harness that was only use 3 times and than place in a storage

@sebastianflynn1746

3 жыл бұрын

Probably

@pentachronic

3 жыл бұрын

Probably assuming it hasn't come into contact with petrochemical fumes and hasn't been chewed on by mice/rodents/insects.

@pentachronic

3 жыл бұрын

But then again is it worth the risk considering you can get a harness for starting at $60 or so ??

@bradleyjames3000

3 жыл бұрын

because you asked the question, the answer is no. Because you don't know. The only way to actually know is to do a test like this video. I suggest throwing it out. Not ever worth it.

@bakirev

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't most climbing equipment have a 10 year life time?

Hey yo!, attached it the next vid to a carabiner not to the amsteell ‘ish whatever,thats makes frinction and lose proper cut to the strenght*. Cheer broda

@HowNOT2

5 жыл бұрын

carabiners are not strong enough. I didn't think the loop would break less than a carabiner but if i did that the carabiner would be compromised and I couldn't use it again anyways. The soft shackle did not compromise the belay loop, a carabiner would have been narrower pinching the belay loop more and reducing the strength more. Many people girth hitch personal anchors to their belay loop, same idea. Soft on soft isn't bad if it isn't moving.

@bradleyjames3000

3 жыл бұрын

@@HowNOT2 you may be suprised if you chose to use an industrial carabiner (with higher strength than the soft shackle). I think he is right about their being innate heat buildup when pulling. Even the slightest movement under high force will cause heat, not to mention the forces are far less evenly distributed soft on soft. The point is that a hefty enough carabiner would rule out any of that. (18KN carabiners are readily available)

if its 19 why tie into the leg loops and the belt. Both of those together is less than the belay loop.

@Fabianwew

Жыл бұрын

For stability reasons I think.

Do slack liners only tie into the belay loop and not the two hard points? Y'all fucked up this test for that reason and that the friction of the soft shackell on the loop is enough to pinch and cut due to the high friction due to force. The climbing harness belay loop is factoring in the stretch of the rope while belaying, this is why we use dynamic rope... People have died by girthing to their belay loop on their PAS and rubbing a weak spot, a bad enough weak spot that snaps when rappelling. To sum it up. Tell people to tie into two hard points (Belt and leg loop points, where the belay loop goes through), not just the belay loop. That belay loop is for belaying and rappelling only, 15kn is enough to catch a fall with a dynamic rope and much more than enough to catch a whip off of a slack line with the dynamic nature of the line itself; however, it is not redundant. You know about redundancy, and mention it in other videos, tell folks to tie in properly. Check your knots.

Why dont they just put a soft shackle as a belay loop then

@gavin2391

2 жыл бұрын

They can be undone, and the loop used to be stronger anyways

How do I get into this stuff without looking like a dirtball carny?

@gavin2391

2 жыл бұрын

Get a haircut :)