Arc Length of A Polar Curve (proof)

Arc Length of A Polar Curve,
Calculus 2

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  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen5 жыл бұрын

    Best of luck on the final, my summer calc 2 students! Check out this integral by Mu Prime math! kzread.info/dash/bejne/houWzNOCc5S6lKQ.html

  • @SigSelect
    @SigSelect5 жыл бұрын

    We have so much technology, so many tricks to learn, so many ways to represent things, but a man in front of a whiteboard still manages to be the best resource for really learning and engaging with the math that students recognize as important. Thank you for your work, I hope teachers everywhere are inspired.

  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Aww thank you Matthew! I am very happy to hear this!!

  • @That_One_Guy...

    @That_One_Guy...

    Жыл бұрын

    You still use technology anyway the moment you watch this video on KZread, i wouldn't ever know about bprp at all if it wasn't for this site, instead i would still stupidly rote memorizing math formula.

  • @benjaminbrady2385
    @benjaminbrady23855 жыл бұрын

    What they teach you in class: integrate 2x What they put on the test: derive the arc length of a parametric equation formula

  • @easygoing1719
    @easygoing17195 жыл бұрын

    When you have no idea what is going on but you watch it anyway...

  • @turtlellamacow
    @turtlellamacow5 жыл бұрын

    There is an easy "intuitive" way to remember this that you might want to show (it makes the formula derivable in a second). Resolve an infinitesimal length of curve into its components in the radial direction and the theta direction. The first one has length dr, and the second has length r*d(theta) (arc length formula). Hence dL = sqrt(dr^2 + r^2 d(theta)^2) ----> your result

  • @sumoman345
    @sumoman3454 ай бұрын

    This was exactly what we needed. Thank you!

  • @mohamedmahl3717
    @mohamedmahl37175 жыл бұрын

    Best of luck on the final we all with u

  • @mitchelletzkin7493
    @mitchelletzkin74933 жыл бұрын

    Loving these proofs! Thanks!

  • @neilgerace355
    @neilgerace3555 жыл бұрын

    2:40 What's the product rule? I have always used the Prada Lu instead :)

  • @LS-Moto

    @LS-Moto

    5 жыл бұрын

    You use the product rule, you live by the prada lu

  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    5 жыл бұрын

    I meant to use the Prada Lu!

  • @neilgerace355

    @neilgerace355

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@LS-Moto thank you Lars, I hope you are well

  • @alexdemoura9972

    @alexdemoura9972

    5 жыл бұрын

    This "polar" thing reminds me a hack I was used to do in Casio graphic calculators. I know there are many Casio calculators fans here in blackpenredpen, just as I was, and I believe I still am. Bprp himself already presented some math techniques on a Casio fx for those who need a companion calculator on their exams. For those who want to investigate iterative functions described as: xₙ₊₁ = f(xₙ) It takes advantage from the rectangular coordinate variables have the same position in memory of polar coordinates variables: X same as r, and Y same as θ. And graphing functions do not affect these X and Y variables. The two conversion functions in Casio calculators related to Rectangular and Polar coordinates are: X, Y

  • @hdheuejhzbsnnaj
    @hdheuejhzbsnnaj2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, my book (like most) just glosses over everything and gives the final formula which does students a disservice.

  • @ivanjanka2910
    @ivanjanka2910Ай бұрын

    Thank you so much! Love your simple explanations! I just realized how calculus is beautiful but our uni proffesors failed to show us that

  • @valengo137
    @valengo1375 ай бұрын

    I really need proofs for formulas so thank you!

  • @TN-wh3yf
    @TN-wh3yf Жыл бұрын

    Thank you man That was really helpful

  • @VibingMath
    @VibingMath5 жыл бұрын

    Great proof! Good luck to those who will have final!

  • @MuPrimeMath
    @MuPrimeMath5 жыл бұрын

    1:24 "here is the dL" lol

  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mu Prime Math hahaha I just noticed that too

  • @Joseph-tm5vv
    @Joseph-tm5vv5 жыл бұрын

    I’m so glad that I was able to follow a blackpenredpen video

  • @avachar11
    @avachar112 жыл бұрын

    Videos like this deserve more likes

  • @Supernova799
    @Supernova7995 жыл бұрын

    Really helpful for my prmo exam :)

  • @vincentespe3602
    @vincentespe36025 жыл бұрын

    Hey Blackpenredpen. Can you do a series on doinh engineerinh problems with integral or differential equations? thanks.

  • @amin9362
    @amin93625 жыл бұрын

    TYSM SM SM SM SM

  • @ruinenlust_
    @ruinenlust_5 жыл бұрын

    Very nice!

  • @jayapandey2541
    @jayapandey25415 жыл бұрын

    All I was waiting for - Wouldn't it be nice ....

  • @kevinbueno5175
    @kevinbueno51755 жыл бұрын

    Oooohh proof I love proof!

  • @aryanjoshi4588
    @aryanjoshi45885 жыл бұрын

    Actually I liked your video too much /(love from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳)

  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Red Ron Tech thank you!!

  • @billydaballer6357
    @billydaballer63573 жыл бұрын

    god. damn. boi you killed that sh*t

  • @Ferolii
    @Ferolii4 жыл бұрын

    Can you make a video of the geodesic of a polar curve? (In 3D if possible)

  • @jjeherrera
    @jjeherrera5 жыл бұрын

    Good! I hope you have also already understood the domain of r is [0,infinity].

  • @cameronspalding9792
    @cameronspalding97925 жыл бұрын

    Using Lagrange’s Version of Taylor’s Theorem; you can prove that the absolute value of the sum from k=n to infinity of x^k/k! Is less than or equal to exp|x| * |x|^n/n! Do a video on this

  • @Patapom3
    @Patapom35 жыл бұрын

    Great!

  • @mathemagicallearning9593
    @mathemagicallearning95935 жыл бұрын

    Cool!

  • @narullah69
    @narullah69 Жыл бұрын

    Your smile is pretty.

  • @sandervalentin1267
    @sandervalentin12675 жыл бұрын

    It is Blackpenredpen that did so that I could differentiate and integrate almost everything, as an 13 year old. Thank you!

  • @henryginn7490

    @henryginn7490

    5 жыл бұрын

    HaZeX integrate e^x^2

  • @elie.makdissi

    @elie.makdissi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@henryginn7490 that's an overkill

  • @frankharr9466
    @frankharr94665 жыл бұрын

    That is cute. :)

  • @willyou2199
    @willyou21995 жыл бұрын

    What if the limits are the same, ie i'm integrating over a loop. the arc length is certainly not 0, but equal limits means integral is 0?

  • @turtlellamacow

    @turtlellamacow

    5 жыл бұрын

    The limits shouldn't ever be the same, even if the curve loops back on itself. For example, if it's a simple circle, r=3 for example, the limits are 0 to 2pi because a full revolution is an angle of 2pi. (You must be careful and always consider what range of angles corresponds to one full loop around the curve because, maybe unexpectedly, it's not always 2pi!)

  • @vivi-fe5rj

    @vivi-fe5rj

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know that this is a year old comment, but for anyone wondering in the future, equal limits (2pi and 0, say in a cartioid) do sometimes result in zero. To avoid this, try and use symmetry when possible. For example, the arc length of a cartioid of equation r=1-sin(theta) can be integrated by using the property of symmetry about the theta = pi/2 axis. Thus, you can integrate from -pi/2 to pi/2, multiplying the final answer by 2, and you will get a real number.

  • @alejrandom6592
    @alejrandom65923 жыл бұрын

    I |love| everytime he says squaaare root

  • @sumathi387
    @sumathi3875 жыл бұрын

    2:00 Could not understand this step. Thanks for the result.

  • @stephenbeck7222

    @stephenbeck7222

    5 жыл бұрын

    He’s using the formula for arc length of parametric functions. You’ll want to look that up.

  • @yahiazakarialadhem9411
    @yahiazakarialadhem94115 жыл бұрын

    thanks

  • @OonHan
    @OonHan5 жыл бұрын

    Yay!!!!

  • @mathemagicallearning9593

    @mathemagicallearning9593

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oon Han Hi!!

  • @OonHan

    @OonHan

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mathemagicallearning9593 Hey!!

  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hey!!

  • @vinay1568
    @vinay15684 жыл бұрын

    Here is the deeel...❤❤

  • @rhversity5965
    @rhversity59655 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video explaining the meaning of the integral sign

  • @not_vinkami

    @not_vinkami

    5 жыл бұрын

    It is just a stretched S

  • @egeyaman4074

    @egeyaman4074

    5 жыл бұрын

    S of sum

  • @Ken-no5ip

    @Ken-no5ip

    2 жыл бұрын

    Integrals can be represented as infinite sums

  • @d-hat-vr2002

    @d-hat-vr2002

    11 ай бұрын

    S for summa (sum). It's the traditional long-s lowercase letter form. Before about 1800, the familiar 's' lowercase letter was only used at the ends of words and the long-s character was used everywhere else.

  • @gocomputing8529
    @gocomputing85292 жыл бұрын

    I didn't understand why you added the d(theta) at rhe end of the first formula. Just the square root should be the differential length

  • @d-hat-vr2002

    @d-hat-vr2002

    11 ай бұрын

    Here's how I sort of understand it: dL = sqrt(dx^2 + dy^2) is the length formula in the notation of differentials and intuitively he's trying to integrate both sides of this equation. But we need a dθ in there because we're really integrating over a θ range. So we multiply the right side by 1 in the form of dθ / sqrt(dθ^2), assuming dθ > 0. This proof seems informal: he treats the left side as an indefinite integral over L (which would have limits of integration L1 to L2, not sure what that means) but the right side as a definite integral over θ. Textbooks usually present this proof more precisely, using a Riemann sum definition.

  • @hadijaffri9856
    @hadijaffri98565 жыл бұрын

    Am i the only one who didnt understand shite but liked the video anyway

  • @lindavid1688
    @lindavid16885 жыл бұрын

    You used the green pen and the blue pen.😂

  • @necromancistenoir2953
    @necromancistenoir29535 жыл бұрын

    The heck happened at 1:14??

  • @neilgerace355

    @neilgerace355

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think he elected not to edit out this bit, that's all :)

  • @yahiazakarialadhem9411
    @yahiazakarialadhem94115 жыл бұрын

    s'il vous plait integral x/(exp(x)-1

  • @benjaminbrady2385

    @benjaminbrady2385

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, that's just the bose integral of two. Which is (2-1)! * Zeta(2) which is equal to (pi^2)/6 A video would be pretty nice though too :)

  • @BIGM0N3YM4N1
    @BIGM0N3YM4N15 жыл бұрын

    Black pen rainbow pen

  • @JustinsRealmMC
    @JustinsRealmMC5 жыл бұрын

    whoops, forget to edit. Try this integral: $(2x^7 + 5x^6 + 13x^5 + 20x^4 + 21x^3 + 16x^2 + 7x +4)/[(x^2 + x +1)^2 (x^2 + 2x + 2)(x-1)^2]dx PFD constants are integers. From Spivak :)

  • @typo691

    @typo691

    5 жыл бұрын

    uhhhhhhh

  • @aeb4865

    @aeb4865

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ok it doesn’t *seem* hard it just seems like it is gonna be frustrating

  • @AnCoSt1
    @AnCoSt15 жыл бұрын

    blackpenredpen...bluepengreenpen?

  • @amanmathur5230
    @amanmathur52305 жыл бұрын

    Sir can you pls tell me the solution of an intergral where limits are from -pi to pi and equation is [cos^2(dx)\1+a^x]dx

  • @steve2817
    @steve28175 жыл бұрын

    Polar? Para.

  • @kriptonio1910
    @kriptonio19105 жыл бұрын

    Hi

  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    5 жыл бұрын

    hi

  • @NoNameAtAll2

    @NoNameAtAll2

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi

  • @neilgerace355
    @neilgerace3555 жыл бұрын

    Are you feeling ok bprp? To me, you are a sounding a bit flat in this video. I hope nothing is wrong.

  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Neil Gerace Oh this was actually filmed a few months ago. I think I did this after teaching my class. So I was tired. Thank you for asking! : )

  • @sapigembel
    @sapigembel3 жыл бұрын

    I thought it just integral r dtheta

  • @not_vinkami
    @not_vinkami5 жыл бұрын

    Now we know: (dx)²+(dy)²=(r dθ)²+(dr)²

  • @sergioh5515
    @sergioh55155 жыл бұрын

    the dL = the downlow.... lul

  • @blackpenredpen

    @blackpenredpen

    5 жыл бұрын

    I thought you said download.... but I looked that up....

  • @Kevin-xs1ft
    @Kevin-xs1ft5 жыл бұрын

    Calculus BC

  • @JSSTyger
    @JSSTyger5 жыл бұрын

    4:33 INVALID!! I'm mathematically scorned by this invalid notation.