This is amazing to see. I feel like I'm almost there with you. I love the sounds. And I love that it's a squeaky alpha. The character makes me happy. I want it so bad.

Can’t wait to get mine! Looks like there is still a lot of work to do. Looked like a very rough ride and lots of squeaks and creaks. They’ll get there. 😊

@remygaz

2 жыл бұрын

I was just about to type the same thing... exactly!

@andromedach

2 жыл бұрын

Really hope they gets a few videos out with some evidence of suspension tuning. The two deal killers will be noise and ride quality because a car with poor ride quality does not impart safety and noise is not something most will tolerate from vehicles with long range options. This is rougher than my friends slingshot and the noise might rival it too. I am willing to wait, I like the 600 mile range option best, but I am in no hurry. This will be my old man's motorcycle :)

@yanpingyang9028

2 жыл бұрын

@@andromedach I would recommend not prejudging based on an alpha prototype un a home made video. Wait until production ready and test drive the actual vehicle

@kennystrawnmusic

Жыл бұрын

Alpha prototype had no suspension. That’s what the squeaks and creaks are about. Gamma prototype does have suspension and it’s much nicer.

Nice to see a working speedometer - and not just the "403" screen!

Wow! What a ride. A real world Aptera. For the first time we got a peer at the speed meter, going around 75mph. Thanks for sharing.

I'm a proud investor and I'm excited for the potential freedom from the grid to achieve mobility. But I hope they aren't just blindly copying Tesla on the interiors, I prefer tactile, straightforward controls on high-access features like the direction of my AC/ heat vents, signals, wiper controls, etc. I need to be able to keep my eyes on the road while I fiddle with these things as the situation on the road changes.

@mattb6001

2 жыл бұрын

there are reasons to put these controls all into a touch screen interface. With cost and efficiency being major factors to this vehicle, ultimately that means more things will be integrated into the touch screen instead of having physical buttons and knobs. that being said, i've seen pictures of this having a turn signal stalk. but we'll likely need to see how things are after a couple more prototype revisions that are closer to production final before we can fully know what is what.

@BladeStar420

2 жыл бұрын

as an older gen z person I get it. But I also think that with more buttons more things are prone to fail. I like the recessed air vents on the teslas but I'm not an owner so I haven't experienced what its like. I'm sure it's more annoying when you want to mess with the settings while driving. Aptera is supposed to be the number one next generation space era vehicle. I think a good compromise would be to engineer really good touch screen button panels or something along those lines, but that would be a long way off for aptera.

@protoborg

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry to have to say this, but you just threw away all that money on a pipe dream. This piece of junk isn't worth the plastic the body shell is made from. It will never grant "freedom from the grid" as that is not something that will ever happen. It is also not something to be looking for. You seem to not understand how this stuff works. For one thing, this cannot charge at night without being plugged in so their promise to have it charged in the morning when you wake up will require PLUGGING IT IN overnight. Second, this thing is only going to get 40 miles of solar powered range. Somehow, it claims to also have 1000 miles of range per charge. Sure, unless you drive it every day. After a month of normal driving this thing will have the same range as an ICE car; about 200 miles per charge. That is simply the way batteries work, especially the kind of batteries this thing uses.

@nikolyevic

2 жыл бұрын

@@protoborg Why are you responding to my comment of all places, even though I never expressed any of these "dreams"?

@BladeStar420

2 жыл бұрын

​@@protoborg you want a solar car like from the cartoon the jetsons where it can fly and it magically has 200 mile daily solar charging? I don't have to tell you that would be impossible. With the current tech this is the best they can do. And with tech always improving the Aptera in 5 years will likely be more advanced. I want this car because it's the closest I will ever come to owning a motorcycle after being in over a dozen car accidents I will not get on a motorcycle. Plus, it's the only electric car you can wrench yourself. The whole thing is designed to be maximally efficient for the environment and for your wallet. 3 wheels instead of four because four is unnecessary. Motors in the wheels to reduce weight and more room for battery.

I like how as soon as you accelerate, it sounds like the intro to a Daft Punk song lol

@JayHeartwing

24 күн бұрын

One More Time intensifies

So much better looking than SOLO and you definitely get more for the money. Reserved!

Thrilling to see your video. I did not expect a ride when I visited and did not think to get it together enough to get my phone out. Daniel Morris used the same care in taking my wife out for a ride, too. Thanks so much for this!

Thanks for the ride along. It's great to get the passenger's perspective on a prolonged ride. Very impressed! Sure, there are bumps and squeaks, but it's an alpha, for pete's sake. Can't wait for future installments and, of course, an Aptera in my garage!

Cabin's still a bit Noisy, I'm sure they've not added any sound baffling/dampening to their Beta/Alpha Models yet. Looks like a fun drive !

@xXTECHxKNIGHTXx

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, pre production/test vehicles aren't refined very far.

@CynHicks

2 жыл бұрын

Also mics amplify some frequencies and minimize others. It may not sound as creaky and high pitched while sitting in it.

@ka24detpower

2 жыл бұрын

Leave mine just like that, I'll just turn up the radio

@johngaither3830

2 жыл бұрын

Driver had his window down for some reason. Whine came during Regen braking. It's a bit odd since it occurs from the wheel motors which are outside the vehicle cabin.

@Schaden36

2 жыл бұрын

I can't justify buying a car that sounds like that 🤢

I like the whine and drone of those in wheel electric motors. It sounds/looks like the suspension in the alpha is a bit "sporty", but this vehicle is going to be so much fun. Its hard to feel the acceleration in the video, but it seems pretty damn quick.

It sounds like a freaking spaceship! 🤩

@LordSandwichII

2 жыл бұрын

@@Shockmeslow I meant the engine noise. Also, the new suspension is better.

@polynotgone8349

2 жыл бұрын

It also looks like one.

@LordSandwichII

2 жыл бұрын

@@polynotgone8349 Well, it was featured in Star Trek.

I think all of us reservation holders are feeling a little green with envy. Nice work, mate!

Great test drive.experience. Thank you! Concerns: 1 motor whine, 2 rough ride.

Really enjoying watching this! Thank you for sharing.

That must have been exciting. Glad they're working on tuning the suspension with the first Beta.

Seriously considering getting one of these looks like a blast to drive

Sound like high speed trains I love it. I can’t wait to slice through the air with these thing.

Those hub motors sound so freaking cool!

It’s looking a little shaky and sounds a little tiny so hopefully it will tighten up. If I get one it has to be the highest range that will toe a camp trailer because I want it to go from California to Florida where I have Family and south Texas too.

wow she's fast, but quite squeaky! want one!

Awesome ride. Those early, imperfect alphas sure do cut through that air. Can't wait for their beta polish job

I love the look through it looks like it came out of the ocean

Wow, very, very, impressive! Keep up the great work everyone.

Very cool ride-along! Thanks for taking us with you and sharing this! I know the suspension has already been tuned in the Beta, as compared to the crashy/jouncy nature of the Alpha here, and I'm sure by the time they make it to the Gamma rendition it'll be much more refined, with no creaking or squeaking, and a lot less noise overall. Really love this concept, and it really seems like they're going to make it to production this year. Exciting!! :-)

I really hope that because this is a test vehicle the motor sounds will be dampened down. My current e-golf is whisper quiet. Only when under heavy acceleration do I hear the faint motor whine. On a positive note its good to see something actually driving on main roads.

@xchopp

2 жыл бұрын

Same!

Thanks for this! The anticipation is real…

What a beauty, that cabin sound , so smooth .

Glad to see it utilizing camera mirrors being an autocycle. Makes it much more fururistic

@Anomalous-Plant

2 жыл бұрын

I really don't like it! But I'm glad it hits for some of the target audience.

@Aves_1

2 жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 how so? It looks much safer than a motorcycle

@yanpingyang9028

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anomalous-Plant It is not for everybody. Only appeals to those that value efficiency and reduced cost in vehicle acquisition and operation. And those that want to make some personal contribution to lowering the carbon foot print

@Anomalous-Plant

2 жыл бұрын

@@yanpingyang9028 I don't have a reason to believe that having camera mirrors would reduce the carbon footprint in the long run. I couldn't find a study made of the subject. Regular mirrors do affect the aerodynamics of the car negatively, depending on how they are designed, but are maintenance free and do not directly consume energy. They also function reliably even in extremely cold weather. I do not know the carbon footprint of a manufacturing process of cameras that fulfill the standards required from them. They would have to withstand constant vibration, extreme weather and corrosion. Backup cameras already face these problems. Motorised cameras have appeared to battle that problem, protecting the camera when not in use, adding more electronics and moving parts. It might become a more functional and reliable tech, a stable piece of automotive industry, but for me it has not made it there yet. The whole car being quite experimental though, might mean it fits right in. I just don't like it, even though I, contradictorily to your claim, care about my carbon footprint.

@CharlesAnsman

Жыл бұрын

@@Anomalous-Plant I agree.

Nice virtual ride along and this is only the two-wheel-drive without the improved front suspension. It would be nice to have you do this again sometime with an inverted insta360 camera.

This vehicle is going to make driving so much fun. And the cool thing is that whole trip probably took 3 cents of electricity (Texas Rates) or $3,000,247,123 dollars at California rates.

Thank you so very much for posting this! Excited to experience the Aptera Journey! Plus I have a new source to share with people when I get asked, what is an Aptera? Thanks again! Can't wait to experience it for myself!

Love the concept. Fast charging and good acceleration and long range. Looks really nice. Looks really cool at night. I'm sure there maybe issues but hopefully they have it figured and start mass production.

Hopefully production models with have way less creaking. But motors sound so futuristic

I like the sound of the motors. Seems stable at high speeds. It seemed to be a rough ride at times due to the road. Hopefully the finally production vehicle does have all those squeaks. I am concerned about the center display screen blocking part of my view while driving. I'm only 5'3½" and have to raise the seat up as high as it will go in all the vehicles I drive.

The heads will turn!

The vehicle certainly looks pretty ‘brisk’ in the acceleration department. It will be a hoot to drive. Charge on!

@borty2141

2 жыл бұрын

Are you a fellow knight?

My dream is to get a job after college near my house, then buy a car like this, cash. No interest payment, no car payment, NO EXPENSIVE GAS, no home charging. ❤️ I’ll save almost 1k a month, for every month I own it. In 5 years I’ll have saved around 60k insane lol

I look forward to getting mine. I just hope my current car lasts long enough.

¡Hola, amigos y compañeros Apterianos! I love this vehicle with the whirr of a Japanese Bullet train and the clunkiness of a beat up old Mexican truck!! This is perfect for me here in México!! We are starting the Aptera Embajadores for Latinos and Spanish speaking people. Please let me know if you would like to join so I can get a member list to Sarah Hardwick very soon. ¡Vuela sin alas con Aptera!

@emuna1976

Жыл бұрын

yo me uno a la lista, de "Apterianos" donde firmo?

@jalaparoy

Жыл бұрын

@@emuna1976 Estoy esperando la "luz verde" de parte de Aptera para iniciar los Embajadores oficialmente. Espero que sea pronto. Gracias, futuro Apteriano.

@emuna1976

Жыл бұрын

@@jalaparoy gracias me avisas por favor, y tambien sobre la posibilidad de legalizar en Mexico aptera, ya sabes como son la burocracia en Mexico y para Todo exigen demasiada documentation y $$$$ tambien

@jalaparoy

Жыл бұрын

@@emuna1976 Estoy viendo con mis compañeros de "Rotary Means Business México" todo los aspectos legales, e incluso la posibilidad de varios centros de ensamblaje/servicio en México. Quiero usar una Aptera en la "Rotary Caravana de Salud", promoviendo la salud atravez de Rotary International en todo México.

@emuna1976

Жыл бұрын

@@jalaparoy ¿rotary international es El club rotario? Ojalá y se llevan a Cabo todos esos proyectos creo ud ya tiene experiencia

We need this in Australia ..Land of Endless Sunshine

They really went for the Mini Tesla vibe eh. Not a bad thing, if it works it works, but even the pedals and such.

Love hearing the sounds of the motors. Where the windows down? Seems very stable at speed. The Beta looks even better. Looking forward to getting a drive at some point this year. Thanks for the video.

@apteraambassador6135

2 жыл бұрын

Raj. Yes, the drive was stable, and we were going very fast at times. I expect it to be even better with the new suspension. I am looking forward to the ride in a Beta shortly.

@daviddrake6875

2 жыл бұрын

@@apteraambassador6135 As do I.

@tonytiger8248

2 жыл бұрын

Question, the wheel sleeves look so close to the ground. Won’t they get damaged from everything on the ground hitting it. What if you turn left and ht the side of the wheel sleeve on a curb. Will it take out the sleeve for good.

@RajGiandeep

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonytiger8248 The production wheel covers will have higher clearance than the Alpha's you see here. About 5" for production.

The dynamic strait cut gear sound is very easy to electrically eliminate at point of origin by noise cancellation technology and two speakers.

Sounds a lil rickety. Still want one. Work on that NVH.

@Rich1Rodriguez

2 жыл бұрын

Noise, vibration, and harshness are crucial for market success. Charge on!

@fanfare100

2 жыл бұрын

Aptera is keeping it real. they are allowing people to test drive the original Alpha vehicles. Once the betas with the new tuned suspensions and refinements are more available, I'm sure we will start to see test drives of those as well. Here is an early test drive of the recent first beta wherein they already ironed out some major suspension wrinkles: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z6udm9p-hqucnbg.html

I love the idea behind the Aptera, and I have been following their progress for some time. However, there are few things I don’t quite like that I noticed in this video. The sound of electric motor is somewhat discomforting. I would prefer quieter version if possible. The vehicle seems a bit too rigid; the suspension could’ve done better job when handling corners and small bumps on the road. I’m not sure if it’s the microphone on the camera, but the air sound is also too loud as well as those little jiggling noises. Sounds like a plastic and it sounds cheap. Hope we see improvements on them.

@n.brucenelson5920

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct regarding your observations in general. I understand that the beta vehicles already have a suspension that is not only more capable in the corners, but also much more compliant. Roush has done a great job with their changes. The foam filled shell should result in a much quieter interior in absolute terms. However, having worked on noise reduction projects myself - primarily for a diesel genset cover, - I know that everytime you lower the noise level there are things that you didn't hear before that become irritating. It is a tough problem.

@fanfare100

2 жыл бұрын

Regarding the suspension, looks like they already gotcha covered. That's one of the very first things that Aptera motors is working on and you can see them fine-tuning it with this recent video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z6udm9p-hqucnbg.html Enjoy!

@Skylancer727

2 жыл бұрын

I believe the sound is mostly a speaker like most EVs are hybrids have now due to some areas requiring them by law. Though from what I've heard it's not illegal to willingly unplug the speaker or remove the fuse for it. Though it might be best to plug it in if your state requires EVs to be inspected. Though I could be mistaken as hub motors are supposedly louder. There is also the fact this is an alpha and therefore doesn't have the foam insulation the consumer models will have.

@kylenolan2710

2 жыл бұрын

@@fanfare100, that video doesn't discuss bump response at all. It's all about pitch and yaw on the flat. I've been pulling my hair out trying to find out how they are dealing with high unsprung mass. With conventional suspension systems (non-active), the choice is between a ride like a lumber wagon or the tires only being on the road half the time. Can you help?

@fanfare100

2 жыл бұрын

@@kylenolan2710 I wish I could help. @N. Bruce Nelson would likely be a better source of help. I know that my little Mitsubishi Mirage handles speed bumps remarkably well. I'm hoping the Aptera will do the same. Speed bumps are incredibly annoying.

The rear view screen is nice, especially for the people who take the solar panel option on the hatch.

@apteraambassador6135

2 жыл бұрын

I was very impressed with the definition of the rear-view mirror. Chris mentioned that they are looking for ways to make the rear solar panel easily removable when needed.

@robertkirchner7981

2 жыл бұрын

@@apteraambassador6135 Take off the whole hatch and you have an Apteramino!

@luisvelasco316

2 жыл бұрын

@@apteraambassador6135 Wow! That sounds like a great idea.I'd like the option to see out the backlight without giving up a big chunk of solar charging when it is needed.

@fanfare100

2 жыл бұрын

@@luisvelasco316 Been considering the possibility of a temporary rigid topper for certain types of deliveries. If that isn't offered, somebody would make a killing selling some on eBay! Yes, it would take away from the low drag coefficient, but IMHO it would come in handy for hauling stuff in the back around town.

@volkan8583

2 жыл бұрын

As an engineer i love aptera. As a custumer those plasticy sound so bad and motor sound has to be changible or can it turn it off ? I hope those rear, side cameras and screens at least 60 hz or will be because on video those seems 30 hz. Lagging on screens.

A little constructive criticism when doing a video in close quarters go to full wide angle to show driver and cockpit relationship with the odd pan toward passenger side or straight ahead etc. As an EV user of many years I find that whine the Aptera makes really annoying or will that disappear on production models?

@n.brucenelson5920

2 жыл бұрын

It is hard to say. With closed windows much of the noise may be gone. The inner and outer skins of the vehicle are made of composite and are filled with foam, so the thermal and acoustic insulation are likely to be very good compared to conventional construction. However, there still may be some perceptible whine. If so, how annoying it is will be a personal matter. When I was small, the whine produced by the rear differential of a '53 Merc is something I still remember with fondness from trips as I fell asleep in the back seat. YMMV.

It sounds so loud - there's a lot of rattling and it appears very bumpy in this test drive. I hope that much of that cabin noise is worked out in the production model.

Yes, this was a great video! Loved the perspective. I plan to go down at some point and sit inside if possible. I have one on order and am 6' 4" and concerned about leg room. Looking at the driver leg position I am a little concerned.

@apteraambassador6135

2 жыл бұрын

Aptera Co-CEO Chris Anthony is a big man himself. He fits in it easily. I have posted a video of him here, climbing in and out of the vehicle easily.

I'm a reservation holder and investor. I'm still holding out hope they will produce an air-suspension version.

@yanpingyang9028

2 жыл бұрын

No air suspension. The Roush suspension rework with some tuning will be in the production Aptera. Air suspension is complex with a lot of parts and way more weight.

Quick and rickety!...I LIKE IT!

I hope it's quiet on the inside like a Lexus is.

Want. Want. Want

@fanfare100

2 жыл бұрын

Need Need Need lol

I would so love to test drive one of these in the Michigan winter. Honestly I don’t mind the noise and creaks as it would seem to be a part of the cars character. Nothing a few rubber pr PU in between panels couldn’t solve.

@n.brucenelson5920

2 жыл бұрын

I will be driving mine in Iowa, probably in time for some of the next winter season there. I will have 2WD, and plan to put on studded snow tires. I will be giving full reports on my experience.

Roadtrip to Florida in Aptera.

I'm sure they'll work on the squeaky creaky sound and the wind noise once they get into production.

@apteraambassador6135

2 жыл бұрын

They already have. Beta vehicles are much improved already. Few more iterations to follow in the coming months.

Wingless Aptera ambassador @ Menifee

I put in my reservation fairly early. I hope they figure out the noise and suspension! This test version handles like a farm tractor.

@apteraambassador6135

2 жыл бұрын

They already have a new suspension going forward with the beta revision. It's supposed to address the noise and the handling.

@n.brucenelson5920

2 жыл бұрын

I had a ride in the 3rd "Luna" prototype. It was hardly farm tractor like. The handling in twisties was much more like a sports car. But you are correct that it was harsh - no worse than some other high performance sports cars I have driven. The hope was that the Roush designed suspension would be much more compliant and I hear from Aptera people that it is. Roush added a sway bar to prevent body roll and did away with the single swing arm in the rear in favor of a dual link suspension. These changes all need to be tuned, but indications are that noise levels are decreased, the ride is smoother, and the handling much faster.

@fanfare100

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like they already gotcha covered with the suspension. This is from a recent test drive on their first beta where suspension and handling were top on the agenda: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z6udm9p-hqucnbg.html

The whine I think would be something that should be minimized in future versions.

Seems to be a real adventure to drive

Seems like a very worthy successor to the ev-1.. perhaps more than the Tesla. It's engineering for Peak efficiency. I'm looking forward to its final completion so that will know

I hope it will be available in the UK, I would love the camper.

I actually like the whine at low speeds to allow Pedestrians (especially visually impaired) and other motorists to know your presence as you move through parking lots and such. It should be an adjustable option. BTW, was GPS map screen on this vehicle operational?

@yanpingyang9028

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure the navigation on the Alphas is operational as all of the UI software is not complete yet. The production version of Aptera will have GPS navigation that will be displayed on the big screen. I will be glad for that with my old eyes

Her A-Proto attire sounds tight at the seams, granted, but damn can she SHMOVE~

I assume all the rattles will be gone at production. Can't wait!

Interesting. I hope they can do something about the whining noise.

nice ! its quick and its only the 2wd xd

Would love to see a range test.

“Should I drive more civilized with your wife?” Hahaha that made me laugh out loud.

@n.brucenelson5920

2 жыл бұрын

When my wife and I got our rides, Daniel also asked her about this. Being long time motorcyclists we have often seen husbands scare their wives half to death the first time they got on the motorcycle. On camping trips to Death Valley, one of our favorite destinations, in the evening my wife often had a crowd of fellow motorcyclists around her asking how I got her to come along. Daniel has a great deal of wisdom in this.

Hopefully the factory models will eliminate the excessive noise and rattling. This is only a prototype

Two questions: were you breaking the speed limit on those residential roads? And how are you going to get rid of all the squeeks and rattles?

@n.brucenelson5920

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't expect an answer to the first question for obvious reasons. To answer the second one, Aptera hired Roush Performance to work on refining the suspension and both front and rear and had a team of at least ten engineers work together to redesign it. The suspension has been made more compliant, aerodynamically improved, and a front sway bar was added. The rear swing arm was eliminated in favor of a dual link. They also redesigned the door hinge mechanisms and doors.

@keelferm

2 жыл бұрын

@@n.brucenelson5920 and are we seeing the test car after these changes?

@n.brucenelson5920

2 жыл бұрын

@@keelferm No.. The video shows the Sol alpha prototype. I had a similar ride in the Luna alpha prototype. The changes are to the beta prototype. There is video of the first beta on the track, but no finished vehicle yet shown.

It is time for this.

Reminds me my 2CV in France with extra power.

@n.brucenelson5920

2 жыл бұрын

I loved the 2CV, and often rode with a friend in Germany who had one. In addition to the power, the Aptera will be far safer in a collision.

At 55, one of my main concerns is comfort. I hope it feels good on the bumps.

@n.brucenelson5920

2 жыл бұрын

Mike, I also had a ride in an alpha prototype, Luna (the silver one, in my case). The suspension in the alphas is quite harsh, like a sports car. I have been in touch with Aptera employees who tell me that the betas with the Roush designed suspension have a much softer ride. They have added a sway bar, so cornering is still flat, but with less of a jolt on the bumps. The rear suspension has been changed from a swing arm to a dual link.

@ModernSunlight

2 жыл бұрын

@@n.brucenelson5920 I'm suspecting also that the added weight of the 100 KWh version might help. The Leaf is an amazing feel for a compact car which I attribute the the heavy ride.

@kylenolan2710

2 жыл бұрын

@@n.brucenelson5920, antisway bars increase effective spring rates, which would increase the "jolt" from bumps. Softening the springs to compensate gets you back to square one on road holding. High mass + soft springs = large overtravel = loss of roadholding capability.

Can’t wait for mine…hopefully by the delta version, it’ll look less like a Tesla on the inside

Really cool to see it going. Certainly seems to be plenty quick. Squeaks and rattles you can ignore because it's a prototype. The motor whining noise would be annoying to me. One of the main benefits for electric vehicles is that they're quieter than gas cars and this certainly is not quieter than my gas car. Some of it I think is inverted noise but some of it also sounds a bit like gearbox noise although I thought it had direct drive in the wheel hubs themselves. One small critique on the side mirrors or lack of them, the screens take the place of those. One complaint about those is that when you're looking in a review mirror you don't have to change your focal length, when you're looking from far ahead and then looking to the side into a screen you do have to change your focal length. This is not a real big problem for younger people that have better eyes. But as people get older it becomes more difficult to quickly focus from distance vision to closer up and you can end up with eye fatigue especially if you drove in the city a lot. One other thing I noticed it seems as though the camera itself is not quite positioned perfectly, you really should only be seeing a small piece of the side of the car in the view. You're trying to see to the side of yourself, looking at the side of your own car isn't really helpful.

@n.brucenelson5920

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct, the wheel motors are direct drive. There is no gearbox.

@kens97sto171

2 жыл бұрын

@@n.brucenelson5920 That's what I thought I had heard.. 🤔 wonder why it sounds so much like gear noise.. when they were on and off throttle it sounded like straight cut gear noise... I wonder if there is a gear mechanism inside the wheel hubs themselves??

@n.brucenelson5920

2 жыл бұрын

@@kens97sto171 No. I am not really sure what you were hearing. There are no gears at all in the hubs. The motor rotor of the hub motor is bolted directly to the wheel, as if it were a drum brake. The windings and magnets are fully potted and isolated from water and dust.

@kens97sto171

2 жыл бұрын

@@n.brucenelson5920 Interesting. Might have just been inverter noise. The sound would certainly change going from on throttle to off throttle. Going from positive power out to regen in. So it just could have been that. Regardless they're going to need to get that noise under control if they plan on selling these... While it kind of sounds cool at first. Living with that noise day in and day out every time you drive it would be very annoying. My 30-year-old Jeep doesn't make that much noise while I'm driving it.

@n.brucenelson5920

2 жыл бұрын

@@kens97sto171 Noise is a funny thing. I developed a manufacturing process for acoustic insulation and worked on the quieting of a diesel genset. Every time you lower the db level for one specific band of noise, another that was masked becomes prominent and then you have to work to address that one. It is impossible to tell how well a mic on a recording is mimicking an in person impression.of the sound. I think the actual db level in the cabin is going to be remarkably low. As to how irritating it will be to individual persons, I can't make a guess. It will certainly be a less familiar sound than the automotive sounds they re used to and this could make it stand out. I have ordered the upgraded stereo, and I hope that the low db environment will mean that I can easily mask road noise with sounds I enjoy.

Creaky but flipping awesome

HOW TALL ARE YOU BOTH? I have a pre order but im 6’5 and have not been able to find anything about tall people in the aptera

I think the warp drive on the engines gone. Where's Scotty?

Needs better suspension bushings, but as a prototype very good. Wondering about lateral-g's.

@n.brucenelson5920

2 жыл бұрын

Roush Performance has completely redone the suspension. I had a brisk ride in an alpha prototype with engineer Daniel Morris. It can corner really well. Prototypes have already passed the moose test. We may see more with the gamma vehicle going through paces in a few weeks, but I would be surprised if we get numbers before the delta production intent vehicles are on the road.

@mikecronis

Жыл бұрын

@@n.brucenelson5920 Okay! I really want to see the Gamma for sure. Colorado roads are rough!

@n.brucenelson5920

Жыл бұрын

@@mikecronis I hope that you will be able to experience a delta! Many of the roads where I live in Iowa are gravel. I have had several of my friends destroy tires just in the past week. The light weight of Aptera should reduce the kinds of punctures they are getting from stones.

I hope the interior is a lot quieter than that for the production model because that one sounds like a rattle trap. I can't speak for anyone else, but I like my vehicle to sound very solid!

Can't wait to get one. Really interesting vehicle. It sounds like the suspension is pretty rough with noises, squeaks and creaks. Would you say that is pre-production? Thoughts for improvement. Overall, awesome!!

thats a rough ride that lol

Interesting

Very cool👍🇺🇸😎

Curious if they can make the motors quieter. I like the sound but I think it will make me rub my ear holes when the motors are turning at different RPMs around corners.

I am 6'5 adult that has a pre-order in for an aptera. I really would like to know if i can fit into the vehicle. From my back to my knee measures 26 inches and from my butt to my head measures ~36 inches. Please let me know. I have not been able to find any information out there.

@apteraambassador6135

2 жыл бұрын

Aptera is designed for a 6'8" male rider. Although taller people might fit comfortably if they have smaller torso.

Real

It sounds a bit clunky to me. Possibly a little over sprung. Air bag suspension might be a better choice. It is much easier to tune for different conditions and purposes, you can easily change ride height, etc. I don't understand why they don't seem to be implementing and testing refinements on the alpha's, seems like a perfect test bed.

@apteraambassador6135

2 жыл бұрын

New suspension in the beta vehicles are already being tested. It's supposed to provide a smoother quieter ride. Is done in collaboration with Roush. www.roush.com/

@johnbuscher

2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s because the Alphas are supposed to be the cosmetic fronts to prove they have a product and can produce, the Beta is for fine-tuning and easy access to parts for tweaks. They also changed the body shell for better aero already, so the Beta will be a better test platform for what they want to test at the moment, while having drivable and at least nice-looking prototypes for other people to see.

@yanpingyang9028

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnbuscher Very astute! I hope other on the forum read your post.

every single material to cancel that squeaky noises will add extra weight and will be bad for efficiency. I know there are lots of customers like me, who don't care that kind of noise. Anyways, I think that sound isolation extras should be considered as "optional". We just care about efficiency and best mileage, others can live with their silent inefficient pillows called merc or tezla.

Really great to see but wow does this thing make a lot of noises. Creaking all down the road and with every bump. I know this is just an alpha, and that supposedly the production car will be more polished and hopefully quiet. I do wonder though, for a car effectively made out of plastic... how much quieter can it really be made?

@fanfare100

2 жыл бұрын

Not quite sure about the plastic part but I do know that they are actively ironing out the new tuned suspension on their first Beta model. You can see here in this recent video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z6udm9p-hqucnbg.html

@Salanan

2 жыл бұрын

@@fanfare100 You're right. I know it's not plastic per se. It's polycarbonate or something like that. I'm just using plastic as a general catch-all for all polycarbonate plasticky things

@n.brucenelson5920

2 жыл бұрын

@@Salanan It is not polycarbonate, either. It is made from UV cured vacuum resin infused composite parts produced in a similar process to what is used in the production of modern aircraft and in the marine industry. The composite contains various materials based on the location in the body and the properties needed, but may include e-glass, Kevlar, carbon fiber, hemp, and bamboo. The double skins are foam filled.

It would be really awesome if Aptera could have an automatic vaccine-tester! So you enter the car but it won't start unless you're fully vaccinated! :D

Are there three people in this two seater vehicle? Person1: How often do you guys take it out for a test drive Person2: a few times Person 3: At this point three times a week?

@fanfare100

2 жыл бұрын

The camera person may have been smuggled in the back. lol

I live in the vast western US basin and regularly do over 100mph in my Honda CRZ, I usually get passed 5 or 6 times on my way to Vegas on weekends if I'm doing 85, I would say about 20 % are in fast SUV's and sports cars that do 90 to 100 from Reno to Vegas etc. Can this do 100 or more ? that is the one red flag to owning one that I don';t know, and can't find. What is the top speed ?? and secondly what are the handling characteristics at high speed ?

At 4:45 on the video 0-70mph in eight seconds uphill with two passengers in a front-wheel version? Nice

@Aves_1

2 жыл бұрын

@@markplott4820 for more than double the cost and with more powerful components. Not a fair comparison whatsoever

@yanpingyang9028

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aves_1 ohhhhh sour grapes

@Aves_1

2 жыл бұрын

@@yanpingyang9028 seems the guy I was replying to deleted their comment. They were trying to compare the car to a tesla and saying the tesla was faster and thus this car was bad

Really nice. I'm sure you're working on more sound insulation - much as the motorsoubd is pretty cool, though.

@HuckWeed

2 жыл бұрын

fwiw both windows were open ... that said I understand and agree with your comment

@maslowfirstlevelenergycomp7033

2 жыл бұрын

@@HuckWeed ah, I didn't realize the windows were open. That does make a difference!

Not bad for $25000 but u only get 250 range you get what u pay for looks nice

Car looks good and has quick acceleration. However, engineering and quality control ostensibly has a major priblem with the jinkiness of that contraption.

Wow, the suspension is light years better than this now. 😆