Apparently, I Can't Solder | Andonstar AD407 Microscope Review

Today we're looking at a new addition to the shop: an Andonstar AD407 digital microscope. I've been wanting one for a while, so I reached out to Andonstar, and they sent me one to try.
Is it any good? Better question: will it do what I need? Let's find out.
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  • @AndyBlackman
    @AndyBlackman2 жыл бұрын

    My take away: its hard to appreciate the amount of behind the scenes effort needed for the quality of video(s) you provide. So, thanks for a little insight into what you do in post. And thanks for the review.

  • @HangarQueen

    @HangarQueen

    9 ай бұрын

    I came here to say the same. Really enjoyed the glimpse into your filming and post-production steps. Stuff I'd never considered w/r/t audio sync across multiple cameras. I know that this is now a year-plus old video, but if you happen to read this comment, James, I'd love to see a whole video dedicated to your YT production routine.

  • @BashoStrikes
    @BashoStrikes2 жыл бұрын

    I have a binocular and a digital scope. What I've found, is having become more used to the two dimensional aspect of the digital microscope, for longer periods of work, I use it almost exclusively because my back and neck get very fatigued with the binocular scope. It's just a matter of getting used to 2D and the soldering is again very second nature.

  • @leso204

    @leso204

    5 ай бұрын

    i find the Bino' setup too clunky takes up too much room extra leads+wires monitor Ect, i can do anything with my setup without the megabuck scope .........

  • @samvoelkel2046
    @samvoelkel20462 жыл бұрын

    I had been wanting something like this, so I ordered this model. Thanks for the review.

  • @joebusfield446
    @joebusfield4462 жыл бұрын

    "so the electrons don't fall out"! I let out a laugh at that!

  • @Clough42

    @Clough42

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can't take credit. It's a Dave Jones-ism. And a good one.

  • @AmateurRedneckWorkshop
    @AmateurRedneckWorkshop2 жыл бұрын

    Great review James.

  • @donmittlestaedt1117
    @donmittlestaedt11172 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video James.

  • @sanderd
    @sanderd2 жыл бұрын

    One thing: you can tilt the stand in order to get a slightly angled perspective. Found that helped a bit with depth perception, but of course we have two eyes for a reason... (edit: also, it focuses to infinity :))

  • @trahim2
    @trahim22 жыл бұрын

    I’ve owned this exact same microscope. I can’t speak highly enough about it. Video is crisp and high frame rate. The quality of soldering you can achieve with it is incredible.

  • @EfieldHfield_377

    @EfieldHfield_377

    Жыл бұрын

    What kind of work did you do with it. If electronics is the size of the base a problem. Would the 10.1" be better

  • @gaborkovacs8765

    @gaborkovacs8765

    Жыл бұрын

    thank You!!!

  • @DudleyToolwright
    @DudleyToolwright2 жыл бұрын

    Good review. I have a similar microscope and they definitely have their uses and limitations.

  • @phoolb7326
    @phoolb73262 жыл бұрын

    Just started to watch your channel a few days ago and will certainly be watching more. What do you think the max FOV you can get if you extended the height of the objective/camera? Certainly looking to pick one up as you mentioned the stereo microscopes tend to be bulky and heavy leading me to leave mine in its resting place unless I absolutely need it. What good is a nice tool that is rarely used?

  • @markharrisllb
    @markharrisllb2 жыл бұрын

    I’m an amateur doing bits and bobs with pretty poor eyesight. I have the 8.5” version of this (under a different name) and for the first time I can do SMDs on a practice board with leaded solder. The extra 1.5” seems to be very beneficial for the field of view, though there are still times I use a jeweller's visor. The depth perspective was fine for me soldering… but using tweezers was a different matter. For someone like myself it’s perfect, I use for everything from soldering through reading ICs to reading that small print they put in to con us old fogies. I'm not saying it’s the best fit for a professional but for folks like me I recommend it. Mine was £110 but like many things they seem to have shot up in price to £140ish.

  • @DNomer
    @DNomer Жыл бұрын

    For inspection, since you like fun projects, and this would be easy, you could build an X-Y table which could move the scope around a large board, providing a nice close image, at various key points, like production lines do.

  • @laurawerner
    @laurawerner2 жыл бұрын

    Good video! And useful for me - I've been getting into electronics and I think I may buy some sort of microscope soon for soldering. Do you have a link to your binocular microscope handy anywhere? Is it one of the AmScope ones? The binocular scopes definitely seem like a better choice if you have the money and space for one.

  • @lucianobellebono9748
    @lucianobellebono97482 жыл бұрын

    Ciao James, apprezzo moltissimo i tuoi video e riesco a imparare qualcosa da quello che vedo. Non capisco quello che dici ma con i sottotitoli riesco a intuire qualcosa. Ottimo lavoro. Ciao

  • @squelchstuff
    @squelchstuff2 жыл бұрын

    A flashgun can be used for sync in lieu of an audio cue. A simple white LED flash is enough, and combined with a scene marker like you demonstrated should make things easier to work with in post. One thing you didn't mention concerning the microscope, is if there is any discernible lag. I couldn't see much during the video, and you didn't note it, so I assume that it is minimal. Using a Stereoscopic microscope prior to this has spoiled you James. I had the same issue when I tried one like this after having been used to using high quality stereo scopes before, although lag was also an issue for me. I can see that a different mount - Manfotto-esque speedmount or even Noga, especially on a machine could be highly useful. Suspended overhead would be my ideal for keeping the workspace clear. Thanks for the honest review.

  • @CraigLYoung
    @CraigLYoung2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @ep_dimi
    @ep_dimi2 жыл бұрын

    Great review of the microscope! Does it support barlow len for wider field of view? Also, does it support pc connection?

  • @rpavlik1
    @rpavlik12 жыл бұрын

    The limited "throat size" on the stand is the complaint I've heard most often. Neat idea looking at 3d prints that close, I don't think I've ever done that with mine.

  • @Tupeutla
    @Tupeutla2 жыл бұрын

    i have 2 models of adonstar including this one , using at work for quick inspection. i agree the depth of field is too narrow , and maybe we had the same idea : what about to fix the microscope to a swing arm ( a good one , maybe with spring or pneumatic suspension ) and shout from far ( like 2 feet ) then connect a 4K big monitor ( like 40 inch TV ) to it and have the max surface for inspection ? not sure I tested this model with 4K output

  • @Steve_R
    @Steve_R2 жыл бұрын

    Nice review James. I would be curious to know if a new stand was built, how far off the work surface you could go and still focus.

  • @N1gel

    @N1gel

    2 жыл бұрын

    I thought exactly the same but a comment above says these focus to infinity.

  • @RRINTHESHOP
    @RRINTHESHOP2 жыл бұрын

    Looks like a good scope, quality video.

  • @Know-Way
    @Know-Way2 жыл бұрын

    Very good review. How much travel is left on the focus to go higher? Thanks

  • @mg30ebay
    @mg30ebay2 жыл бұрын

    I also struggle with middle-age closeup focus degradation and it's quite frustrating. To maximize the depth-of-field of my eyes themselves, I have two LEDU L445BK combo incandescent/fluorescent arm lamps. The use of two bulb types improves the color spectrum and this helps when, for example, trying to read resistor color bands. I also got prescription 400mm to 100mm focal length progressive lenses.

  • @gaborkovacs8765

    @gaborkovacs8765

    Жыл бұрын

    i m with You Matthew! is heavy frustrating

  • @srmofoable
    @srmofoable2 жыл бұрын

    I bought one of these scopes a few months ago directly from Ali. Some how they managed to forget the stand. Surprisingly, a simple message to them resolved the issue and they put the stand on the boat the same day . Much better experience than I have had with other Ali sellers. I would love to see a stand video... even better if you could come up with a design that worked out financially that you could sell. There's tons of these stands out there and like you we've all hit the limitation of that stand on an otherwise decent sub $100 scope....oh man, just hit the cost segment. Not sure I would have paid what they are asking now

  • @xenio8736

    @xenio8736

    2 жыл бұрын

    This cost less than 100 bucks ? I see them for 250 now

  • @Twardowsky29
    @Twardowsky292 жыл бұрын

    I think those close up shots of machine running would look great

  • @twobob
    @twobob2 жыл бұрын

    I used mine to solder an 8 pin audio amp soic. that was about as small as I was comfortable with, these days I have it mounted a good meter up above my TV and it is used for wide inspections on the TV screen (40 inch)

  • @torp9820
    @torp9820 Жыл бұрын

    I just bought ad407 for its 4mp sensor and hdmi out capability. But after a few days of using it, I think that the picture/video quality on its 7” screen is the same as ad207. The only difference is the focusing range. At the same zooming size, the ad407 gives you more working space under the lens if you mount the unit at the bottom red ring (and of course, you need to chin up more to its higher screen). I hooked it up with both my hd tv and a 23” 1080p fhd gaming monitor. No matter what resolution I set, the big screens always show “1080i” with exactly the same (bad) quality of grainy videos and pictures for all resolution settings. The sharpness selections also give no difference effect on both screens.

  • @chrisl2656
    @chrisl26562 жыл бұрын

    Is it any easier with one of the light sources positioned “north” of the solder target (instead of east/west like you had it)? That way, the shadow cast by the solder wouldn’t be obscured by the solder itself, and might give a good indication of height.

  • @crocodile2006

    @crocodile2006

    2 жыл бұрын

    Weirdly while I'm watching the video I can tell he's got the solder too high simply by the fact it's out of focus, but he can't tell it's too high even though we are effectively watching the exact same thing in 2D? Weird.

  • @jed2055

    @jed2055

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, I too have this model and simply moving the LEDs and or my magnifying ring light I can get a bit of a 3D view happening. Another trick is to lay the board at a slight angle; then the height can be seen. All that said, I have no problem soldering under this scope. Just practice mate and remember it cost only a fraction of your stereo binocular doover so comments should always factor that in.

  • @MonkY2k2
    @MonkY2k2 Жыл бұрын

    Nice review! It would be really nice if you would try TOMLOV DM201 or DM202 and compare with this one. Thanks in advance!

  • @GrenPara
    @GrenPara Жыл бұрын

    Great video thanks for making it. What camera switcher are you using with your remote? Please

  • @ronwilken5219
    @ronwilken5219 Жыл бұрын

    Hi James, very informative. I could have used this forty years ago looking for dry or cracked solder joints on PCBs. Speaking of dry joints, does the solder you're using not have a resin core so becomes self fluxing? The joints you soldered on that header certainly looked dry to me. You indicated you didn't have flux so I'm assuming you usually use a paste flux like you'd use for SM components. Have you ever tried the endoscope cameras for close-ups of machine work. If you haven't I'd be keen to see you test one at some stage. Thanks for all the time and effort of editing and producing your videos. It's greatly appreciated. Regards from Canada's banana belt. 👍🇺🇲🕊️🇺🇦🍌🇨🇦🤞

  • @gerritvisser
    @gerritvisser2 жыл бұрын

    I learned to solder 0.005 plated wire onto ceramic substrates using a Weller solder station and with no visual assist in 1975 at Univac in Roseville, MN. You had one attempt to get it right. This was for 7015 plated wire memory stacks. Now I certainly appreciate any assist, and these USB or screen-included microscopes are awesome. This is a good overview of the pros and cons, thank you.

  • @Clough42

    @Clough42

    2 жыл бұрын

    How old were you when you were expected to do that?

  • @gerritvisser

    @gerritvisser

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Clough42 27, I think the secret was just enough liquid flux.

  • @m.m.m.c.a.k.e
    @m.m.m.c.a.k.e Жыл бұрын

    Looks great

  • @swolebro
    @swolebro2 жыл бұрын

    It's possible that the recordings still have a timestamp in the metadata. You can check using either `mediainfo` or `ffprobe` (part of the FFmpeg suite), or there's probably some GUI tools that can do it, but I assume you're experienced enough with the commandline to handle it. If the microscope does add timestamps, note that some devices save the start time and some save the end. That should at least be enough to let you match up which clips go with which source audio, and if the clocks are close enough, and the timestamp precision is high enough, it might let you sync. When I edit videos, I use a horrendous pile of Python and bash, going by timestamps to line stuff up approximately, then the waveforms (where available) to get it precise, then break the recordings up into takes/chunks, which I can review manually, deleting the bad ones, keeping the good ones, then concatenating them together with ffmpeg. (I don't like GUIs.)

  • @bluedeath996
    @bluedeath9962 жыл бұрын

    I prefer the AmScope trinocular microscope for doing things. It has a good stand and you can put on whatever camera you like.

  • @azyfloof
    @azyfloof2 жыл бұрын

    I'm interested how the image on the screen compares to captured output, or output as viewed on an external monitor? I have the Adonstar ADSM302 which I bought back in 2018, and I'm super happy with it, but the inbuilt screen is mediocre compared to what I get on an external monitor

  • @N1gel
    @N1gel2 жыл бұрын

    We would normally use and setup the lights to produce no shado and best picture. However although that still applies for inspections, it may be practical to adjust lights for adequate oicture and to have additional luminance to provide shadows from iron tip and solderr. Obviously, holding the solder above the board would have a gap between the solder tip and the shadow tip and as the solder gets closer to the board the shadow will hunt for the real solder end. So it may be a case of learning new tricks. However with my eyes in your boat, I just use the feeling in my fingers to slide the solder over the boards.

  • @Clough42

    @Clough42

    2 жыл бұрын

    Probably true.

  • @N1gel

    @N1gel

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Clough42 Hi, I was watching Stefan Gotswinter. KZread is quite amasing, I only watch about 12 channels in total, Applied science, Mike Patey, you, TOT, Adam Booth, AVE, Electroboom, Anton Petrov and Jody (welding tips & tricks), Sina (drummer) and the electronics guy from Switzerland i.e: only the sensible clever people, and it seems they often know each other. Stefan commented about TOT a while ago and Joe Pieczynski today (obviously with complements), so I asked Stefan how long before he mentions you?

  • @seanshay6573
    @seanshay6573 Жыл бұрын

    great video practice kit good idea i have been soldering for years and the components have gotten alot smaller over the past 40 years one thing i note in your video that maybe could really help would be using smaller diameter solder

  • @firstmkb
    @firstmkb2 жыл бұрын

    I don’t disagree with your review, but I’ve been very happy with the cheaper version I bought from Banggood 3 years ago. It had a 4.3” display and a ring light instead of the flexible ones, but it was only $45. I’d love to have a binocular microscope too, but they are much more expensive. Display is crisp, and I’ve been able to read part.numbers off of partially melted surface mount chips.

  • @bradley3549
    @bradley35492 жыл бұрын

    Putting that microscope on something like those XXL Noga type mounts, with the LEDs attached, seems like it would be very convenient compared to the tiny stage.

  • @whoisntwhoisit2126
    @whoisntwhoisit21262 жыл бұрын

    That power supply name really sticks in your mind for sure. "We mean well" lol - saw Louis Rossmann looking into it as a recommendation from a viewer.

  • @Bianchi77
    @Bianchi772 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, thanks :)

  • @anthonycalia1317
    @anthonycalia13172 жыл бұрын

    I think it important to keep in perspective that a low cost device like this cannot be all things. To me, this is an inspection device and it seems that it can do that more than adequately. For soldering surface mount devices, clearly a binocular system is required and asking to do that with this is just too much

  • @larrybud

    @larrybud

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why is a binocular system required? To get depth of field?

  • @chasemartin4450

    @chasemartin4450

    7 ай бұрын

    I place and solder SMD parts with this and have never had an issue with the lack of binocular vision. Takes some getting used to, but with enough practice I find it to be quite easy to place (and lift) components solely by looking at their position on the screen, with no true depth feedback. MUCH more convenient than a conventional microscope if you ask me, since I can sit in any position I like and still see the screen.

  • @subuser9627
    @subuser96272 жыл бұрын

    I saw also an AD409 with a little bigger screen (10 inch) and WiFi, maybe a little better for you eyes. I hope they bring a stereo for 3D in use with a VR like the Quest2. I was already suprised what a Quest2 can do.

  • @Barrysworkshop
    @Barrysworkshop2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks or the review. A more angled, less even light (side-lighting) might help with the depth perception issues. Just a suggestion, but I'd try a low angle specular (small) light slightly back and to the left and a more diffuse light above, slightly to the right of center to balance it out. Some amount of "shadows" should make it easier to see the depth.

  • @lwilton

    @lwilton

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just manipulating the two side spots (possibly only using one of them) and having some ambient room light as fill will help a lot. I have one of these I use for the sort of soldering her was trying, and it works for me.

  • @ryanvoots9827
    @ryanvoots98272 жыл бұрын

    You might consider an hdmi audio injector to put inline with a cheap mic to get the audio track you want.

  • @gaborkovacs8765
    @gaborkovacs8765 Жыл бұрын

    thank You for this video! is the difference really this big? one or 2 lenses on a stereo microscope? for 3d coordination or was this feeling from You just a first impression? i want to buy a bit cheaper one from Andonstar, the ad246s. for soldering thank You!!!

  • @vov120
    @vov1202 жыл бұрын

    Thank a lot for review. What jeweler visor do you use for soldering? Would appreciate a link, please. Regards.

  • @larrybud
    @larrybud2 жыл бұрын

    Some reviews on amazon talk about a $12 wide angle lens kit you can purchase, so that may make the field of view issue a non-issue.

  • @azenginerd9498
    @azenginerd94982 жыл бұрын

    For your soldering is there an opportunity to nest / piggyback / mount this lens onto your binocular microscope and achieve a similar viewpoint between the two?

  • @VoidedWarranty
    @VoidedWarranty2 жыл бұрын

    If you buy a binocular scope, spend the extra few bucks for a trinocular scope, the third port is for a camera. Note the difference between the ones that have a moveable prism that shuts one eye off to feed the camera though, not true trinocular

  • @justmemyselfandi5532
    @justmemyselfandi55322 жыл бұрын

    nice toy, not sure if it deserves such great in-depth review. Though very nice of you to make one. Like the video.

  • @engineerncook6138
    @engineerncook6138 Жыл бұрын

    After years of stagnation, the digital microscope market is evolving rapidly. The Andostar scope you review has a 4MP camera and a 7" diagonal monitor, and currently priced at $200. If you like that scope you might consider the Tomlov DM201-MAX with a 25MP camera for $165. Tomlov appears to have a much wider selection of microscopes for applications besides soldering and inspection. The DM201-MAX only records in HD (1080P) but I don't need to record UHD video (2k), I do need to be able to capture high resolution stills and blow them up to see very fine details on knife edges. The higher resolution camera and Sony chip in the DM201-MAX makes that possible. If you need UHD/2k recording capability, some Tomlov models can do do that too. Be care shopping for Tomlov scopes however. Their system of numbering models is rather confusing and they offer dozens. Make sure you check the specs of whatever you purchase.

  • @fezbpu

    @fezbpu

    5 ай бұрын

    how's the framerate and latency on the tomolob?

  • @Fishbone4u
    @Fishbone4u2 жыл бұрын

    Good image quality review of the microscope, but why did you not talk about the microscope's resolution, the microscope's remote, features of the remote, and the microscope's menu system? I think you missed the mark on this review if you were truly reviewing the microscope in its entirety. Otherwise, it looks like you were just in it for the freebie. Also, you could have laid the microscope on its side and placed a circuit board as far away as you wanted from the lens if you needed extra distance from the lens. You should do a follow-up video. All of this being said, you gained a subscriber.

  • @hollydog4554
    @hollydog45542 жыл бұрын

    James, great channel. E Microscope would be the perfect tool for finding for those annoying tiny finger splinters. Keep up the good work. ;-)

  • @Clough42

    @Clough42

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh, this is a really good idea. I use a binocular microscope for this, but depending where the sliver is (foot?) That can require more joint mobility than I possess. :)

  • @ronwilken5219

    @ronwilken5219

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Clough42 old(er) age is a bugger. Take it from me. It gets worse. 👍🇺🇲🕊️🇺🇦🍌🇨🇦🤞

  • @subuser9627
    @subuser96272 жыл бұрын

    Nice, can you also use it on a lathe ? In terms of delay of the image and depth of field ? I am only soldering smd's with a Quick 861DW, works fine for me and not that expensive like a Weller. I saw a foam handle on you Hakko, a JBC part ?

  • @Clough42

    @Clough42

    2 жыл бұрын

    The green rubber grip on the iron is standard on the Hakko FX-951, as far as I know.

  • @briancollison5319
    @briancollison53192 жыл бұрын

    Good image. No barrel distortion visible. I'd like one.

  • @HexenzirkelZuluhed
    @HexenzirkelZuluhed2 жыл бұрын

    Indeed it might benefit us more than you. I'm looking forward to machining closeups with this. Especially on the lathe I imagine it giving a unique perspective.

  • @harrydelange1821

    @harrydelange1821

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe you can add some 'virtual' depth by angling the stand a bit.

  • @jjbode1
    @jjbode12 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for those monocular tests. Only wish you had a binocular m-scope to compare. About Amazon, where is the "WC" it ships from?

  • @Clough42

    @Clough42

    2 жыл бұрын

    I do have a binocular microscope, and it's far superior for soldering. It's not as good for capturing video.

  • @Engineerd3d
    @Engineerd3d2 жыл бұрын

    James, when you do make the new stand. Add a led ring around the camera and get rid of the side LEDs.

  • @lwilton

    @lwilton

    2 жыл бұрын

    That isn't necessarily a good idea. I've found on my version of this that positioning those side LEDs (or just using one) can make it a whole lot easier to read the labels on the tops of chips. For some things a ring light is wonderful, but not for all.

  • @DrFiero
    @DrFiero2 жыл бұрын

    I bought a "similar" one about a year ago (off Ali E of course). Use it all the time and it's been great. Funny thing though, is 75% of it's use is me finding metal or wood splinters! Works awesome for that, and I keep an Exacto blade handy for extraction. 45 years of automotive and metal work, you get used to it. ;)

  • @gizzyguzzi

    @gizzyguzzi

    2 жыл бұрын

    you use it for pulling splinters out of yourself? Brilliant! I needed a reason to buy one of these!

  • @DrFiero

    @DrFiero

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gizzyguzzi - glad to help justifying it! Sometimes you just need that tiny extra 'push' to get you over the edge. ;)

  • @ronwilken5219

    @ronwilken5219

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DrFiero I use a jewelers loupe, a fine sewing needle and a pair of needle nose tweezers. Cost a hell of a lot less and don't need power to operate. Lighting is sometimes a problem but that big light in the sky usually suffices. That said I could see using one of these if I had one. A lot easier on the eye sockets. (From holding the loupe in.)

  • @Mtaalas
    @Mtaalas2 жыл бұрын

    For soldering on definitely needs stereo depth perception... so trinocular microscope. Want to inspect solder joints? Sure, this will serve one very well.

  • @joelevi9823
    @joelevi9823 Жыл бұрын

    The scope looks perfect.. but the price is a bit high..is there a cheaper recommended version?

  • @uncledansworkshop4776
    @uncledansworkshop47762 жыл бұрын

    James - thanks for the great work! One suggestion for adding an audio track for sync: If the microscope is capable of plugging to a PC and acting like a webcam, use software like Snagit or OBS Studio to record using the 'scope as a video source and the PC's microphone for audio. It's not a great audio track, but the "clap in view" technique still works fine. My company makes ultrasonic test equipment, and some of that can do remote screen share to a PC. I use that exact technique with OBS recording the screen share along with cameras and regular audio track for the rest of the setup and test. So far my editing efforts aren't up to your level, but I'm improving with practice and watching what you, Quinn and Tony do. Please, keep 'em coming....

  • @Metalhead-4life
    @Metalhead-4life2 жыл бұрын

    I need to solder a few really small smds that I don't wanna attempt without magnification and I can't decide between a Donegan optivisor or one of these Tomlov microscopes for about $170. By the time I buy the Donegan visor with the led light and the attachable loupe I'm spending $91 for just a visor so Would it be better to get the Tomolv microscope instead? Oh the reason I'm looking looking at the Tomlov dm201 is because it has an extension for the stand, not sure hiw crucial that extension is though. I cant afford a $350+ binocular system

  • @HanstheTraffer
    @HanstheTraffer2 жыл бұрын

    I still think it would be possible to make a grid program for a video microscope and use it as an optical comparator.

  • @harrydelange1821

    @harrydelange1821

    2 жыл бұрын

    I thought there is a grid mode build in, not sure...

  • @RoboCNCnl
    @RoboCNCnl2 жыл бұрын

    Bit offtopic, but what do you use to get all those camera's on that one screen.. seems quite handy.. (Nice scope also )

  • @Graham_Wideman
    @Graham_Wideman2 жыл бұрын

    James -- While soldering, I don't think you mentioned anything about lagginess between your hand motions and the time they appear on screen. I know you were somewhat preoccupied with the depth perception, but I wonder if you could comment on the lag? Also, how did you capture the microscope video? SD Card? USB? Or did you get the HDMI output working for capture?

  • @Clough42

    @Clough42

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh, interesting. I didn't notice any lag, so I didn't even think about it.

  • @NunYa953
    @NunYa9534 ай бұрын

    The biggest limitation to this scope is the base. If soldering on a larger board, it may even be impossible to do it because of the base. So i purchased and articulated arm made for another brand of scope but it works grade. When i dont need the scooe i articulate it out of the way.

  • @bigbadgator

    @bigbadgator

    2 ай бұрын

    got a link to the arm? 😊

  • @Graham_Wideman
    @Graham_Wideman2 жыл бұрын

    James -- I see on the Amazon page there are some very useful comments about users who have increased the field-of-view and the depth-of-field either with a macro lens, or with an extension tube (3D printed!). So there's some scope (ha!) to improve a couple of the restrictions you remarked upon.

  • @Clough42

    @Clough42

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, there always is. I don't think I own a machine tool that I haven't modified in some way.

  • @bretcannon3826
    @bretcannon38262 жыл бұрын

    You can increase the depth of field by making the aperture smaller in diameter. You may also need to increase the light intensity to compensate for the loss of light due to the smaller aperture. I am assuming that you do not have enough magnification that diffraction is significant in the resolution.

  • @Clough42

    @Clough42

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like a design tip for the manufacturer.

  • @harrydelange1821

    @harrydelange1821

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe you can make a diafragm by making a small hole in a piece of some material, plastic, metal, just under the lens?

  • @demofilm
    @demofilm2 жыл бұрын

    You could make a longer sliding main arm . Just to take a bigger view.

  • @jhbonarius
    @jhbonarius2 жыл бұрын

    5:00 🤔🤭🤣 And pin "3" wasn't doing anything anyway, so good you didn't solder it. ;) Thanks for sharing!

  • @mxcollin95
    @mxcollin952 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed the review and trust your commentary on stuff, although you can’t blame crappy soldering jobs on the microscopes. Lol 👍

  • @MinhasA
    @MinhasA2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, I'm not sure about the electronics industry, but at least in the sciences that's more considered a 'macro' scope..

  • @KaiSyversen
    @KaiSyversen2 жыл бұрын

    Use the 3d printer to print an extension between the base and the pole, to extend the heigth of the camera.

  • @andreamitchell4758
    @andreamitchell4758 Жыл бұрын

    I have a 50" Sony Bravia 1080p 3D TV , I wonder if I get 2 of the cheap handheld microscopes and rig up a stand for them if I would be able to mux the 2 feeds into a single 3D signal then there would be depth perception and if there would be a delay also I have a PSVR headset , i wonder if there would be a way to set it up with 2 microscopes

  • @BrianBoniMakes
    @BrianBoniMakes2 жыл бұрын

    Would you test a stereo digital microscope? That might be easier to solder with.

  • @burgerslave101
    @burgerslave1012 жыл бұрын

    Can you make a video tour of your shop? I would love to see your various set ups. I am about to build a lathe station for my bench lathe and your set up seems very user friendly! Love to see where other makers work.

  • @Hossimo
    @Hossimo2 жыл бұрын

    Snap in front of the microscope camera to sync it up. just make sure to lineup the palm not the finger tips.

  • @faustsmith
    @faustsmith Жыл бұрын

    Any difference between simul focal vs trinocular microscopes?

  • @gregwoolley
    @gregwoolley2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your detailed video.. just wondering what is the PCB holder you are using? ... .. . I took some screenshots of your video and zoomed in.. very blurry name on the PCB holder but eventually I googled various names and stumbled across the name of your PCB holder.. in case anyone is interested to know it is called "StickVise".

  • @Clough42

    @Clough42

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or you could have checked the video description for the link I provided.

  • 2 жыл бұрын

    Hello, thanks for the share. Can you tell me if it´s possible to have via HDMI only the image, without timer, icons, etc. I am thinking about use this ANDONSTAR AD407 for a art perfomance and I am looking for only the image. thank you very much.

  • @roflchopter11
    @roflchopter112 жыл бұрын

    How does the binocular microscope work with only one objective lens? If it was great, I don't think two tube night vision goggles would be a thing. Or regular binoculars, for that matter.

  • @TradeWorks_Construction
    @TradeWorks_Construction2 ай бұрын

    Why were you only trying to look at the screen to do the work? I can definitely say that trying to use a single zoomed in display would be extremely difficult since you lose depth perception as you very clearly noted. Have you tried working while keeping your focus on the board while using the computer screen in your peripheral or placed back behind the board (working so you can either glance back and forth between the two or simply focus on the picture while “seeing” the board and tools just below and in front of your focus)? While this may seem like you’re trying to look at 2 different things at once it’s actually very easy to pickup. For instance at this moment i’m typing with my focus being locked on my smartphone screen yet I can easily describe the objects behind and off to the sides w/o much effort. They most certainly will look out of focus but in a moment that detail will become irrelevant. Conversely if I focus at the object immediately ahead and behind I can no longer see the printed lettering for individual keys on the digital keyboard but even though my thumbs look out of focus, I can easily tell their changes in 3D space relative to the object I’m keeping my focus on. The farther out in ones periphery an object is the more likely it will exist in only a single eye’s field of view so by keeping it relatively close to your area of focus you can still gain that missing depth perspective that the screen couldn’t capture in its Top down view.

  • @kylelaw7210
    @kylelaw72102 жыл бұрын

    Don’t know what video it was but I’ve seen someone use a half zoom lens attachment with a similar microscope when doing electronic repair.

  • @kurtbilinski1723
    @kurtbilinski17232 жыл бұрын

    "...I'm not 17 any more..." hit close to home. I used to solder and assemble small parts no problem, and yup, the close-up vision has been moving outward, right into Old Guy Land...

  • @Cenedd

    @Cenedd

    2 жыл бұрын

    The first stage is looking for steel rules that only have mm markings and not the stupid half-mm marks. Now I'm looking for one that only has 2mm markings! ...maybe one with 5mm markings as a fallback! Hell, if it gets any worse I'll have to go imperial.....and find one that is only marked at full inches!

  • @ronwilken5219

    @ronwilken5219

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Cenedd get one from CEE's friend that measures in banana's. Yes it certainly doesn't help when your arms are no longer long enough

  • @OuroborosArmory
    @OuroborosArmory2 жыл бұрын

    Best way to sync visual with audio is to clap, or snap. Use the visual of the clap to sync with the audio. Tiny clapper on the microscope

  • @seanrodden6151
    @seanrodden61512 жыл бұрын

    We've got leaded and unleaded solder now. I wonder if in a few years we'll only be able to get solder with 10% ethanol.

  • @vincentguttmann2231

    @vincentguttmann2231

    2 жыл бұрын

    And later on we'll have... electronic solder? I really hope that means we're electron beam-welding our parts together then.

  • @HanstheTraffer

    @HanstheTraffer

    2 жыл бұрын

    The soldering irons themselves make global warming ...so they will be banned.

  • @beachboardfan9544
    @beachboardfan95442 жыл бұрын

    How do you like that liliput production monitor? I was gunna get a 4k one for daylight resin 3d printing, but didnt know much about them.

  • @Clough42

    @Clough42

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love it. I don't think I could generate the quality of video I do without a good field monitor. The false color and focus highlighting features are invaluable. Currently looking at the 12" that has four HDMI ports and the 4-up display on-board.

  • @beach-time
    @beach-time Жыл бұрын

    There is a wide angle upgrade lens. Screw off UV shield and screw on wide angle lens makes it a total solution

  • @piccilos
    @piccilos2 жыл бұрын

    Is being methodical in your work something that was taught to you or did you develope that skill set yourself?

  • @BrainHurricanes
    @BrainHurricanes9 ай бұрын

    Maybe you could fit a 0,5 barlow lens, if there is threads for it.

  • @johnjewell219
    @johnjewell2198 ай бұрын

    Btw what flux do you use with non lead solder?? Thanks John

  • @laplantemichel709
    @laplantemichel709 Жыл бұрын

    I would use this to examine coins up to what size can i see ? idealy if i could see a 35mm coin completely it would be great .Thank you

  • @ingmarm8858
    @ingmarm88582 жыл бұрын

    I use a digital microscope for all my microelectronics work (as a profession) and I have no issues with depth perception whereas I find traditional stereoscopic microscopes uncomfortable to use. Just takes time for you to adjust.

  • @MrRawUK

    @MrRawUK

    2 жыл бұрын

    which model do you use?

  • @jerryquigg3497
    @jerryquigg34972 жыл бұрын

    I Made a different mount using a magnetic dial indicator holder. Make an adapter for the scope with a stub to fit the holder.

  • @Clough42

    @Clough42

    2 жыл бұрын

    A few people have suggested this. It's a good idea, and it would be much more compact than a traditional binocular microscope base.

  • @timjones148
    @timjones148 Жыл бұрын

    On the depth of field shot, it looks like you have the digital zoom turned up too much! I have the AD208 & get good depth of field. Great video though.

  • @LocnavLivoc
    @LocnavLivoc2 жыл бұрын

    make a mini clapper like they use in cinema and use it under the micoscope.

  • @bobweiram6321
    @bobweiram63212 жыл бұрын

    Get a used Bausch and Lomb StereoZoom microscope. Great, reliable and reasonably priced.