Great video! I just received the exact model. I’m loving it so far. The were some issues with shipping that needed to be addressed. Once I got everything set up, I was very impressed with the Phantom V3. I most definitely agree with “This bell has to go”😂! This scooter is way too fast for a bell. A horn should come standard. New sub!

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

I'm glad you liked it. More cool stuff coming soon.

Great review of the V3. Can you speak to the changes on the V4 model? And have you experienced any issues with your current V3 model?

Best Apollo Phantom V3 review on KZread imo. Thanks for the thorough breakdown. My Phantom is a mid Sept shipment date and I can't wait to go for a rip through Toronto. I love the mechanical look of the Phantom compared to the pro. Might be a little more in maintenance and keeping it clean but I don't mind, yet lol. Can I ask, what action camera setup are you using for your shots?

I've had the 2023 Phantom for a month or so now, have about 700kms on it. So far so good. It's got a couple of creaks in the stem, but otherwise very quiet. I really, REALLY hate the software & would much rather a key ignition. That said, it's fantastic & I'm glad I bought it. So far, Apollo have treated me very well & their support chat was surprisingly informative. I'm new to e-scooters this year (I have a '22 ghost), so it's a learning curve. I use the regen brakes exclusively, I only test the disc brakes occasionally to make sure they're working. It allows you to brake a LOT later. Only once did it lock up the back wheel), and only for a second. As with any scooter, I'd change a few things (the light on the front is 1000 lumens, but IMO you should have 2K lumens & perhaps a light bar above the front wheel. Aftermarket parts are your friend. I also covered up the cables on the front a bit, with cable covers. Makes it look cleaner. Stock tires are actually very good! I've been on a gravel path (hard packed mostly, over dirt, but not always hard packed) and I've had no flats. I was told to expect flats. Maybe I'm due. One thing to note though, the Phantom on a full charge & in Ludo mode is slightly slower than the '22 Ghost (at its highest acceleration) until it hits about 45km/h, then the Phantom takes over. The Phantom is a bit shorter, so it fits into the back of my Subaru WRX, whereas the Ghost, I had to drop one of the seats to use some trunk space. Great ground clearance. The kickstand is decidedly cheap, but effective enough. I'd pay for a kickstand upgrade if given the chance. I've used the dual charger ports as well as the rapid charger & the range is about the same as the Ghost - though I've never had either one lower than 40% battery yet. I'm not sure if the 4-shock suspension is the way to go, with the Pro using single shocks, like am I pulling too much weight with the suspension? I put lithium grease on them so they're silent. I'd rather an 11" tire for a scooter that sits so highly, maybe a 12". I'd eagerly buy a puncture-proof tire, but when it comes to finding products that will fit, the support doesn't elaborate much. They have great videos on how to adjust/replace things - but the fact you need a 10"x3" tire but instead a 2.5" tube, was inconveniently omitted - but an extra set of brake pads and the aforementioned tubes - are included in the toolkit. A wrench to adjust the suspension would have been nice, but for all I know, it's in the package that comes with it. So, wee things like that - I'm spilling my own preferences & I don't design scooters nor source the parts. I'm in Atlantic Canada so there are no official Apollo shops - meaning I'm on my own to buy tools. There's about $100 worth of tools everyone should have, the most important being a portable battery powered air pump with a quick-release valve. Once you get to 50psi you want to yank that hose from it fast. Over- and under-inflation are tire killers. The display is brighter than its predecessors, but in the sun, if you wear sunglasses, you'll rarely see what's on the screen. When you're trying to use your signal lights, that's a problem. Thinking of putting a piece of plastic around the borders to keep the glare down. It's a beautiful scooter, designed in Canada, and it seems the management/owner listen to their customers & actually make changes accordingly. I haven't touched my car in 4 months, I even grocery shop with this thing (big backpack). Possibly the best transportation I've ever bought, dollar-for-dollar.

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing. This is so helpful.

@abiron75

11 ай бұрын

I have questions, everybody can lock and unlock the scooter with 5 push bouton?

@NunchucksHabit

11 ай бұрын

@@abiron75 Yes, you can sync up to it by simply turning it off/on & searching for it using the app. The app is more of a convenience, like, put it into Park mode to go into a store then all you have to do is unlock it with your phone's security (e.g., a fingerprint). In 'Park', the tires will be hard to roll, but it can be pushed - and carried - away. Order a bike lock, one of those sectional ones with actual keys. Unless I'm using the app wrong, it's meant for convenience & configs, not security. It's just easier to get a key on a keyring rather than dig your phone out, unlock it, connect to the scooter, iterate through the options using the 'M' button above the left signal til you get your preferred display (I like battery %, the 4th & final option - and resets every time). Then you press 'RIDE'. I get what they're trying to do, it keeps great data, but I was just in eco mode (gear #1), and I set the cruise control to be 33km/h (long flat ride on a beach road) and to enable cruise after 3 seconds of the same speed. I changed the gear back to '3' later, but the config for cruise propagated to the 3rd gear. It's kind of dangerous. The people who made the software did a few things very right, but it needs a consultant with customer UX specialty to advise. It's not a big app, but I have to kill it every time I'm done with it for the day. It DRAINS my battery (Samsung 21 Ultra) like crazy. Every time I kill the app, I get back 1.3GB.

@abiron75

11 ай бұрын

@@NunchucksHabit thank you very much for your details. I hope to have the money soon to order the Phantom. I can not wait.

@kaszasaman

11 ай бұрын

@@NunchucksHabit I totally agree. The scooter as a whole is an amazing product, but they really need to invest in the app integration for it to be a selling point. It’s absolutely a convenience at the time I’m typing this. Let’s hope for future improvements to really make it more useful. I’d love to see biometric unlocking functionality(Face ID). Something a little more seamless if they’ve done away with the 🔐. Otherwise Ive been loving the new Phantom. I also thought it was a great review

Way to go, you just showed everyone how to unlock the Phantom!

@ElectricVehicleSpace

7 ай бұрын

glad you find it useful.

Finally, a great review with a pilot weight of 100kgs! Thanks again for such a review. The speed and range tests were great.

@ElectricVehicleSpace

10 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

I moved by bell closer to grip so I did not hit the regen brake while reaching for the bell sometimes. So I have it , grip, brake lever clamp, bell, then regen throttle. I also prefer the brake levers that also include regen feature.

Good review of the phantom best scooter out for real

@ElectricVehicleSpace

28 күн бұрын

I am glad you liked it.

So the question is.. which scooter is better dollar for dollar? Is the Pro a better value at twice the price? I’m debating on getting one with their 12 month financing over the weekend or waiting for the 2024 Apollo Explore. Would love your thoughts.

🙂Great Video!!

@ElectricVehicleSpace

10 ай бұрын

I'm glad you liked it.

Great video thanks. I appreciated you measuring the handlebar height, so many reviews omit this. Out of interest how tall are you? For reference. I would like to see your review of the Klima, Mantis King GT and maybe the VSETT10+R for your comparison with this, the RS5 and others you've tested in this sort of range. Really I would like to see a rating of each and your opinion on what you think is the best.

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

I don't like Klima and the brand lost interest since the quality is low and the scooter I have started to rust and have issues but the brand does not care in repairing the issues. I like best the Pro for 3.5k and if you are on the 2k budget the mukuta 10 plus is the best option that I really like and enjoy riding. If you are not into speed but want quality product Apollo Phantom is my next option.

@NunchucksHabit

11 ай бұрын

I find the handlebars to be a bit high, but comfortable. I'm 5'10". Only thing I don't like about that setup is, the angle of the regen brake and thumb-throttle, which I need to learn how to adjust. My hands kind of lay flat over the grips so as to keep my thumbs ready, so a bad bump & I'm worried about my hands slipping forward. Otherwise, handlebars are ideal.

@Rafael-ri2ft

11 ай бұрын

@@ElectricVehicleSpace I've been looking at heaps of reviews for the Klima and other Nami scooters, first time anyone has said anything negative about Nami quality (of the reviews I've seen). Good to know because, that's what I was leaning towards. Thanks.

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

@@Rafael-ri2ft it was good at the beginning but after one year and mostly being in the shop for repairs and stored in my garage so many issues. I did 300 miles last week and so many needs to be adjusted and replaced. I have about 700 miles and it is been a project and it should be enjoyment. The arvala m11 that has smaller battery has no issues and gives me more range at 35 to 40mph speeds than Nami. Waste of $$$.

@shanew7361

11 ай бұрын

​@Rafael-ri2ft There have been known brake sensor issues, and people are unable to charge their batteries as well. I'd also avoid Solar Scooters, I ordered and received an EQ model, and the handlebars were bent, and the wiring that operates the rear left back blinker was cut. I've emailed the company and I have yet to receive the part to fix it or a new scooter or money off.

Great review and great scooter too.

@sebw3964

11 ай бұрын

It's overpriced Garbage

@domingoc9721

11 ай бұрын

@sebw3964 Did you own one or tested it? Just wondering why it's garbage. Overpriced? Maybe.

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

Thank you, D! I think the 60V version will be perfect, but for daily commuting the 52V is more than what you need. Super comfortable and plenty of power.

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

You need to get and test over 50 scooters and after share your opinion. So far is erelevant.

@domingoc9721

11 ай бұрын

@@ElectricVehicleSpace Always welcomed 🫡

Definitely have my eye on the phantom. On another note, in terms of tire size, do you think there is a noticeable difference in ride quality going to 11 inch tires, from 10 inch tires? ✌

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

I forgot to mention that there is room to install 11 inch tires where you will gain more comfort and top speed but loose torque.

@bubblemagic8664

11 ай бұрын

@@ElectricVehicleSpace oh wow that's cool. Thanks 👍

Love from Assam, India

I have the phantom I wish Apollo would keep building off it. Mine was V1 upgrade to V2 and V3

@ElectricVehicleSpace

5 ай бұрын

they are always upgrading

So that is your favorite thing (13:35) that makes this 4k scooter your favorite and it's the no splash fenders?

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

You can see a full detailed review that I posted on the PRO. Is better quality and comfort from all scooters today on the market.

Tires are still to small to safely ride on the crappy roads. Anything smaller than 13 inch are to dangerous in my city.

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

For compact size it's perfect.

@underdog2400

11 ай бұрын

What scooters do you like with 13 inch tires?

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

@@underdog2400 I mentioned in the video. PRO!

@xyzyyz

11 ай бұрын

@@underdog2400 Dualtron “city”, Weped “ Dark Night” Dualtron”X2”.

@underdog2400

11 ай бұрын

@@xyzyyz kind thanks! I really appreciate it.

It would seem that you would get a lot of water up the back for the fenders

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

It can be done better.

you got 39mph, was this on LUDO mode? or mode 3? Probably be able to hit 41mph if on LUDO!!

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

I was in Ludo but for me there is no difference between 3rd and ludo. Maybe it is not set up right?

Sterring wheel is not wide enough in opinion thats why i got the splach titan 10 jade

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

Phantom looks way better and seems higher quality.

the size difference between the pro was pretty big lol didnt realize that

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

also the price tag but the features justify that I think and it is on sale still today for I think around 3.5K

been rocking the same led strip set-up lately.. people pull me over all the time and scream "nice bike" ! and the more lights the better

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

How is this related to this scooter?

Wow, the deck on the pro looks tiny, what the heck?

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

it is not that small. I think the camera distorts the angles.

🤜😎🤛

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

I hope you like it :)

What is the price cause im tired of spending my money on the lime scooter

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

Check the link @2k

If it had everything similar to the Pro model, it would be the Pro model! I have a Phantom V2, soon to be V3, and it is an amazing scooter for the price. It's all well and good saying, "yeah, if Apollo could add an electronic horn, puncture proof tyres, a better light.." etc, then the price also goes up and it is no longer a Phantom. Those motors too. So quiet! Listen, I'm 117kg/259lbs, 5ft 10in/178cm and it carries me perfectly fine. The acceleration is mad, even with big ol' me on it! I'd like to see on a V4, brighter and bigger deck lights. Slightly different shape handlebars (no real estate for adding phone holders, camera mounts etc) and maybe not quite so high (I almost feel like I'm praying when riding!). Still, a great scooter as it is and it gets the looks with the Apollo logo down the steering column! That said, I do like the very futuristic look of the Pro, but it is much more expensive!

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

To improve the light and include the horn into the console does not require much and should not increase the price.

@irpnet

11 ай бұрын

@@ElectricVehicleSpaceFair point!

@user-uf4lf2bp8t

11 ай бұрын

Those 3 things combined would not even result in a $100 price increase

❤ फ्रॉम भारत ❤From 🇮🇳💞

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

❤️

You want a bell to warn pedestrians and slower bikes that you're passing them on shared paths. You don't want to honk at them with a mechanical/electronic horn and saying something each time sucks.

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

i want just something that matches the design.

They canceled the phantom 60v upgrade, because of over heating issues

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

Mukuta does it so they should be able to do it too.

@gabe19951

11 ай бұрын

@@ElectricVehicleSpace not with the single controller, they said unless they wanted to make a whole new controller which illowah said he doesn't want to do so he cancelled the 60v version he's actually mentioned it alot in the scoot scoot fridays podcast that it was cancelled and they gave up on it

Hyd is hydrolique..

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

I see ty

That’s NOT the 2023, still V2 with upgrades. The 2023 has totally different fenders that now attached on both sides

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

Why don't you check their website?

@snailarmy2125

10 ай бұрын

I think they just added new fenders and a neck brace a week ago to v3 models and switched the bell position

@grantos8276

10 ай бұрын

@@snailarmy2125 not sure you know what your talking about

@snailarmy2125

10 ай бұрын

@grantos8276 yes the new batch phantom v3s are coming with modified fenders a neck brace a cutout for the Mach 1 controller

Too heavy for me to carry 75lbs everyday in my apartment….

@ElectricVehicleSpace

11 ай бұрын

Get a hiboy max 2 38lbs

This scooter is 80% at it's best!!! Just not up there yet.Apollo missed a few points here with an unreasonably high price!!😮 It's for the yonger,i don't care crowds!???😅 Not bright enough in sunlight!$$$. May be next time Apollo..just maybe.aSad. You're just a salesmen.

@ElectricVehicleSpace

8 ай бұрын

I dont sell anything but test various EVs and share here my findings. If you don't like it, maybe try and get something else.