It was funny af, same people who were saying that AA isn't that big of a deal were crying so hard over this

@thj_4623

Жыл бұрын

@Pxsdnus #fuckmnk

@Lynxee3004

Жыл бұрын

@Pxsdnus #nobodyasked

@thj_4623

Жыл бұрын

If you think AA that good pick up a controller

@blizzard4551

Жыл бұрын

#nobodyasked

@shigechi5027

Жыл бұрын

@Pxsdnus stay coping 😂👎

4:20 the irony.. controller PLAYER telling me to train to get better meanwhile he want free aimbot so he can get kills

@Arizzic

Жыл бұрын

“Free aimbot” You’re malding

as a console player i remember this, my aim felt off and it just felt weird but after about an hour i got gud and started the season off well, i wish it stayed this way as you’ll see someone miss every shot with a gun like the flatline at range but BEAM as soon an your in their face and they are like level 50 or something. console just doesn’t feel skillful it just feels like everyone apes each other because they can only hit shots close range

@klauslunde

Жыл бұрын

exactly but without aim assist wed have to train like 3 times more than pc we control the entire screen with a few fingers and we use our thumb for like every button on the top

@okaycoop5856

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@MuseR.

Жыл бұрын

@@klauslunde bro where did he say to remove aim assist?? Holy fuck lmao

@aaronyoghurt9210

Жыл бұрын

@@klauslunde Nah, U think all pc players are using a 240hz monitor, RTX 3080ti, gaming chair, keyboard, mouse, etc? My friend is using a 15-inch laptop, with 30 fps, and he sucks even after playing for 2 years. Stop crying about it, get gud

@klauslunde

Жыл бұрын

@@aaronyoghurt9210 bro ps4 is 10 years old

Extremely good edited video. Firstly its was not just setting turn on, it was changing settings to another value (pc - 0.3 and console 0.4). Secondly nearly 90% of console players, even with 0.6 assist are really bad player. I remember the 2nd of November like the best day because there was no brain dead who could one clip you with r99. Best 24 hours in apex history literally.

@ButerandToast

Жыл бұрын

is there proof that PC went to 0.3 anywhere? Your claim is the first I've heard of that.

@bavarian_ttv2010

Жыл бұрын

Facts

@magicnebula5398

Жыл бұрын

I only started playing in szn 13 that's why my aa on console is do bad even though I play 4-3 linear that would make the difference we font have as many options when it comes to opacity color blind reticle optic sensitivity etc like pc players and the frame diff is real when it comes to preforming movement tech and whenever I lose packets I just feel like logging off for the day if I competed in a professional tournament I'd be pissed too srry pc is master race

@pandolam4513

Жыл бұрын

I do not remember PC players being able to override the settings at all

@zeusdavid4104

Жыл бұрын

Yeh man... I agree. All I want it's a nerf for aim assist, like, do controller players have not to aim at all in a fps game??? The thing about aim assist is that even a player who knows how to play a lil bit on a controller can turn aim assist to max and beam at low-medium range. Mouse players have to train hours and hours to learn how to be good at tracking and find their sensitivities too. Don't come with arguments now to tell me "bUt yOu dOnT kNoW hOw hArD iT iS tO aiM oN cOntRoLLeR". Bro, I litteraly plugged my controller, did some internet settings, went firing range and instantly see the difference. IT TAKES NO SKILL COMPARED TO MNK PLAYERS. That's all I have to say. I did a 1v1 against a normal controller player in firing range, he was litteraly beaming me. Did 1v1 against mnk players better than me, I had a lot more chances to beat them.

Extremely well made video ottr jesus, this editting is sleek af, very enjoyable to watch my guy.

Lucky for me when the console aim assist nerf happened I was aim training by playing months with my aim assist fully turned off

@jai1690

Жыл бұрын

That would’ve been fun

@hades7220

Жыл бұрын

I feel this. I 1v1'd my friend in the range without AA and we both forgot to turn it back on for a month. Once you get use to it its really not that bad without. And you feel a lot more satisfied with the 1 clips and flicks you get

@biggiecheese2004

6 күн бұрын

Gigachad, I hope they actually do nerf the fuck out of it one day so players like you that legitimately practice get your deserved ranked. Rn it’s literally just you can exploit the game engine harder

Controller: .6AA is not op Also controller: literally cannot aim in .4

@Arizzic

Жыл бұрын

You when people play on something for years and cant adjust in one day:

@andy6677

Жыл бұрын

You're right! imagine changing the height of a NBA basketball hoop by 2 feet, watch em all start to miss more shots because obviously there bad, not because they were practicing on something that hasn't changed since they started.

@vlads.3192

Жыл бұрын

@@Arizzic if you suck after years, ofc you cant adjust, coz you are used to letting PC do 60% of the job for you :D AA onc console is like riding bike with side wheels

@TerpleDerp2600

Жыл бұрын

I do think that .6 aim assist is a little bit too much. However, changing it from .6 to .4 isn’t actually that much of a difference. The reason it made such a difference is because changing the aim assist essentially changes sensitivity. If you’ve been playing for a year on a certain sensitivity, then suddenly change it, it’ll take you some time to adapt to the new settings.

@Arizzic

Жыл бұрын

@@vlads.3192 It literally dosent matter, you will not adjust to ANY change is a single day on any input, stop being ignorant

When PC players are switching to controller you know aim assist is too strong.

@Arizzic

Жыл бұрын

Yet it’s .4 on PC, so that’s not relevant to this situation ☠️

@andy6677

Жыл бұрын

yea switch for part time play. they start complaining about controller soon enough. none of them want to commit, unless you know one?

@David-mg5jx

Жыл бұрын

@@andy6677 Imperialhal.

@andy6677

Жыл бұрын

@david. Do you not watch him give up and switch back to MnK? Even though his mistakes are easily covered up by him only playing controller with other preds. But he is the only one trying to play it full time

@biggiecheese2004

6 күн бұрын

@@andy6677he literally plays nothing but roller now. Genburten (who is a fucking GOD on MnK btw, that’s how broken AA is), over 85% of pro league players, it’s way too strong. It is literally going to destroy the game if they don’t make a change. Controller games do not live long because the gunplay is extremely stale.

I was about to start playing this game but i don't want to play a fps with aim assist, so thank you for making this video. Top notch editing skills.

@RabidChasebot

Жыл бұрын

It seems like any game with a high TTK requiring good tracking aim has aim-assist and cross-input play these days. The only games left that require a good deal of tracking aim without any assistance are arena shooters like Quake which are basically dead. All other mnk-only games are low-ttk tactical shooters where only flicking aim is required. The day a game comes along with high-ttk and no AA I'll rejoice

@williamwindex3890

Жыл бұрын

pc guys would eat you alive anyway

In my opinion 0.4 should be the default aim assist value for many reasons and the 0.6 to be completely removed as an option. Mathematically speaking the 0.6 is more automated aiming than actual player aim. This is coming from a console player

@gaming4K

Жыл бұрын

GET GUD don't use soft aimbot and if you are shit than buy mnk for your console lol.

@Smiley957

Жыл бұрын

Why did you say “mathematically speaking” lol

@Myterionx3x3

Жыл бұрын

any kind of "assist" should be removed.

@titvngaming7693

Жыл бұрын

@@Myterionx3x3 in that case then mnk has a MASSIVE advantage

@Myterionx3x3

Жыл бұрын

@@titvngaming7693 as it should be. At least the aim with mnk is purely skill. Whats the point playing a " skill" game when AI plays it to 50% for you

It was genuinely such a weird day. I played on console at the time, and the game just felt so weird and I couldn’t understand why. I thought I was just missing all of my shots because of the Car since it was new and it was almost all I used aside from the Sentinel. That was how I found out I couldn’t track shots for shit, but I had no problem using the sentinel without aim assist.

I feel 0.4 would be aight for console cuz I dislike when I get glued to somebody’s downed person while fighting another person. And honest it makes me a lil over reliant on the aim. But at the same time, I’m not in pro league stuff or even ranked so I’m lookin’ more for a good time than spending hours practicing and mastering movement tech or bullet recoil patterns and beamin’. Also yeah the frame rate and lack of lerch still do be a hinderance seein’ other players yeet themselves every which way is crazy

@madlad5234

Жыл бұрын

Same

@Fakhori.M

Жыл бұрын

MEANING... the game is casual for u.. meanwhile if u are at PC and u are a noob playing against these console players u gonna have to suffer practicing aiming and it takes a lot of skill to master while sweating ur ass instead of just chilling in the couch like all the 10 yo little Timmis

@gurimisenpai2358

Жыл бұрын

@@Fakhori.M I mean. If you can't aim with MnK you are several levels of pure trash.

@omega6826

Жыл бұрын

Just change to 0.4 then

@DeviantGun

Жыл бұрын

@@Fakhori.M what? He was talking about changing console aim assist values (.6) to PC-controller values(.4) ... That would make it harder for console only players in console only lobbies... Cross platform for console to PC is already at .4...

I’ve long hated aim assist, and I’m a console player! I’ve had so many instances of fighting aim assist in games where it jerks my cursor off my target in multiple different games. It is also a horrible crutch that builds terrible muscle memory habits. I’m of the side that no game that is a competitive multiplayer experience should have aim assist.

@BeefyZawg

Жыл бұрын

You could say the same thing with PC, they have so many movements console players can't do if u want to balance it, we shouldn't start with aim assist

@whispr_2ME

Жыл бұрын

@@BeefyZawg You don't have to play in PC lobbies, and Respawn failing to do basic qol fixes for controller has nothing to do with getting an advantage while actually aiming. Honestly I don't even know why someone would *expect* to have the same experience as someone with 84+ keys fully using their fingers, arms, and wrists when you're using 4-6 fingers max; let alone on a system that might be significantly weaker.

@koromau3854

Жыл бұрын

Some aim assist should exist or controller would simply not be viable. There's a reason why most games add AA for controllers.

@BigBHole69

Жыл бұрын

@@koromau3854 then have separate matches/tourneys/leagues for separate inputs... balancing mnk against roller across all possible skill levels is a fool's errand. Halo Infinite had a KBM only version of ranked and a cross-input version and you could choose which. Respawn is just too scared of splitting the playerbase I guess.

@koromau3854

Жыл бұрын

@@BigBHole69 Yeah you're right about that. It's inevitable one control method will have an edge regardless of how well you balance things... Idk if apex has a big enough playerbase or not, but could be an option.

1. This video is extremly well made, good job on this one... 2. This day truly was a prove that Aim Assist is way too op

@dante429

Жыл бұрын

Damn m&k player still crying lol 😂

@raginginthelab9653

Жыл бұрын

@@dante429 weird take. Console players got exposed that day. Cope harder

@buttered__toast_2899

Жыл бұрын

@@raginginthelab9653 so Hal and Velhurst are scrubs 🤷🏽‍♀️

@BigBHole69

Жыл бұрын

@@buttered__toast_2899 Hal literally switched to controller because it is the superior input on Apex and with a very limited controller background he was beaming with it in hours and winning literally every close range engagement... if a KBM pro with tens of thousands of KBM experience switches to controller, I think it proves aim assist is simply too strong to pass up in the pro scene.

@uyagg9079

Жыл бұрын

yea cause less fps and aiming with ur thumb is even compareable to aiming with ur whole arm. quite simple if controller was that op then all tournaments would be filled with controller players only 🤦‍♂

I wish they would permanently set console values to 0.4. I have ALC settings on with a linear response curve and the aim assist values set to "PC" mostly so I am always using competitive settings but also because I felt 0.6 (console values) overcorrected a lot. A skill gap is needed on console as well; getting beamed by someone who looks like they can't even properly hold a controller is always a defeating feeling and has even made me consider going back to console values for aim assist

@gaming4K

Жыл бұрын

Or simply just don't allow soft aimbot in multiplayer games. . Very simple. .

I was definitely complaining when this happened- But it was more of a “wait something feels different” moment. I went straight to the Apex forums and I had to be one of the first to create a thread saying something is up with aiming. What annoyed me was people saying “it’s in your head.” It’s all about “muscle memory.” I would be ok with a permanent switch to .04. What I am not ok with is having my values changed without informing me of said change.

@fistofram5526

Жыл бұрын

Yeah you'd be ok but you would still NEVER be as good as you were with aim assist, which is what MOST DELUSIONAL console players believe. They truly think they're good.

4:07 nice star wars reference ottr 😂

good work on this. well researched and the editing is amazing!

It's even easier than an if statement, all aim assist can be controlled from two config files, all it takes is changing the value, and all values are stored right next to each other.

@oneistar6661

Жыл бұрын

Could you elaborate. I'm willing to remove whatever aim assist is bugging my play. I'm quake player and aim assist is really killing me sticking to the target instead of leading it.

@Blooms2g

6 ай бұрын

@@oneistar6661quake player on controller? Bro just use mnk 😭

@oneistar6661

6 ай бұрын

@@Blooms2g KB+M and still there is hidden aim assist or mouse movement augmentation for sure.

@Blooms2g

6 ай бұрын

@@oneistar6661 uhhhh no there isn’t on apex

bro these edits are great, your whole channel is great and this is a good difference

As a console player, I can always tell when I’m killed by someone on pc because I’ll hit every shot on my screen and still die. The latency issues with console make apex almost impossible to go up against anyone using a good pc. I’ve thought about switching to pc, but the price for a good one has kept me away from them. I don’t want to spend triple what a console cost for a competitive rig. Not to mention you can’t get components still.

@fistofram5526

Жыл бұрын

Good PC and latency in the same phrase. This just shows how stupid console players are. Good PC has NOTHING to do with latency, lmao. You could have the best setup (hardware) and still have 80-120 ping in your own region. Can't even differ that hahaha

God this is an incredible video it's just so fun to watch. Another thing i'd like to add as well is that when people talk about pc players complaining about aim assist, they tend to miss the point which is not that aim assist is op, but rather makes the skill gap on console much less wide and can give even the worst players an advantage. I'm all for controller players being able to compete with pc but you need to fine tune the aim assist and make it much more based on your aim rather than a flat value of aim assist that everyone gets. Great video!

I switched my aa to PC values(.04) on console for a season and a half and still made diamond solo q. I didn't notice much difference except when in very close range shotgun/smg fights it was harder to hit my shots and especially against my fellow console .06 aa players. Overall good game sense/positioning and proper aim will keep the good players close to where they already are, but I'm a big supporter of them nerfing aa on console to .04 because it would be nice to widen the skill gap amongst us for sure. Kinda tired of getting wrecked by some random lvl 150 player that doesn't even stow their weapon or slide jump just because they shot me in the side a split second before I reacted. INCREASE THE DAMN SKILL GAP is my vote!

@electrified0

Жыл бұрын

Too many console players are too busy getting worked up over perceived advantages of PC players that they forget that far more people killing them are other console players and 0.6 hurts you more than it helps you when players far worse than you can one-mag you with it.

@brandoncoleman4013

Жыл бұрын

@@electrified0 exactly

@muifly4892

Жыл бұрын

As Apex was my first shooter on controller i suck really bad and didn't feel the aim assiist. However, i went down to 0.4 out of curiosity and still improved. I recently turned it back to 0.6 and now i am often surprised at what shots i hit. I can't imagine how OP it must feel to someone who is really good on controller.

@whytry4682

Жыл бұрын

@@muifly4892 or how op it feels to ANYONE who is familiar with controller.. i havent played with a controller since xbox 360 days and i can honestly perform the same if not better than i can with my 7 years of pc shooter experience.

@ichigo-rz6qk

Жыл бұрын

@@electrified0 MnK does have insane advantages but aa is really strong nonetheless.

This format for your content is really good!

-me, who's been playing linear raw input with AA off for a year "While you got laid I studied the blade."

I made the switch to .4 AA in season 8-10? I was immune to this shit haha.

Videos like this are very important. Competitive fps games need to evolve and roller players need to become aware of their handicap. Aiming should take skill and practice to master

@marcybons

Жыл бұрын

it does still take skill and practice to master though. the console aim assist doesn't magically give people "easier" aim than on PC, it's set the way it is to make up for other mechanical differences so that the end result for the console player is as close as possible to the PC player. the aim assist is set to make the learning curve the same, not easier, and the value needs to be different because the platforms and aiming tools (sticks vs mk) are different. it's honestly not that complicated, like he says in the video there's just a lot of misconceptions about how these things actually WORK floating around. i'm a controller player, probably more on the casual side bc while apex is my main game it isn't the only one i play. i've watched guides and tried to consciously improve my aim over time. it's still taken me like 2 years to get to the point where i've gotten my first 10 kill game and 2k+ damage badges. my kdr from the last half of s5 / s6 (when i started playing) was 0.33 / 0.44. now it's finally 1.00. people need to stop spreading the myth that console aim assist is some magic button you hit to turn an aimbot on.

@okaycoop5856

Жыл бұрын

@@marcybons listen man, I started on the controller so I know where you are coming from. I’m aware of the skill gap on controller but tbh I don’t think you have the whole picture here. PC higher fps and lower input lag doesn’t make up for extremely unbalanced up close rotational aim assist. There is a reason why pro teams require a roller player nowadays. To have a truly unbiased take you have to have a lot of experience on both inputs and be at a certain skill level. 1kd console lobbies don’t experience the same level of frustrations with how strong aim assist truly is and how sweats have learned to completely abuse it.

@dxug_gaming2843

Жыл бұрын

@@okaycoop5856 yeah no. Aim assist is not any type of helper. It makes controller players have a change against a pc player. You test this by playing on controller in pc lobbies, the only reason pc players lose is skill but cry about AA when it’s their gameplay choices that made them lose. That’s they ONLY issue people have with AA, they just went against someone who landed more shots or had a better load out. Yet, with pc players they have movement, better control, tap straffing etc… this argument is mute because it comes down to skill, especially considering the fact that AA hinders you majorly by slowing down your aim and youd have to change the settings close to pc setting in order to avoid that

@xenosfur

Жыл бұрын

@@dxug_gaming2843 So PC players have to learn movement techniques and train their aim but console players get given better aim. ok. "Aim assist is not that strong" is the most copium I've ever seen. I don't understand why normal players don't have the option to opt out of cross platform, the pro scene can decide whatever is "fair". In the end, you can never have a fair game when one side fucking flies around like a monkey and the other side is given aimbot to track those monkeys. its that simple.

@okaycoop5856

Жыл бұрын

@@dxug_gaming2843 this sounds hella biased and defensive. I don’t agree with increasing the strength of aim assist to make up for the difference of hardware. A majority of the time you’re still getting fried by roller player even in pc lobbies. .4 is too strong let alone .6 man. It bails you out of more situations then you know. You don’t really understand until you’ve played kbm Faze Snipedown’s take says it all man.

Yo, this video editing is nice bro! Keep doing what you’re doing.

Played apex on console for almost two years (now on pc). I still think aa is needed for console players, all they have is a little thumbstick to aim, while pc players literally a whole mouse mat. On pc you can make way bigger movements with your whole arm (vs one inaccurate thumb) for very small adjustments on your screen. 0.6 is too high tho, should be lowered to widen the skill gap.

Cannot get over the edits. Love em. I dunno how long this took but holy crap man.

Imagine putting so many hours into games, thinking you're good to then have aim assist taken off and you can't hit any shots. Mouse and keyboard is easily the way to go. No training wheels.

@pelikanvernichter

Жыл бұрын

AA is kinda like a wheelchair or a walking stick

Well edited and objective without a bias towards either side in the argument.

Also known as the day I felt like a pro 💀

Editting so good I watched a second time

Im a roller player but I use pc values, honestly I think its easier to hit shots cause you use the raw imput to actually aim where you want, instead console values slows to fucking much the aim, I can´t even understand how people use it.

@DaRockCandy

Жыл бұрын

I use .4 too. It gives more freedom to make small adjustments but it's also harder to stay on target.

@adamaoulad9548

Жыл бұрын

Same, i remember when i played on 0.6 AA it was always locking on knockd people and it was annoying af

Dude I started after Nov. 2 2021, on console, I've heard people mentioning it before and now I know what they're talking about. Thanks heaps!

aim assist ruins my aim rather than help it

Aim assist is not there to close the gap, games had aim assist way before cross play. Aim assist is there to make people aim better because it makes us feel good when we shoot good witch keeps us playing more.

@joesdoe4732

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, very good in singleplayer

Man how I wish this man got the credit he deserves, a true Apex and KZread goat. Always making sure his content is quality, on top of entertaining. Love you ottr my favorite apex CC. Your the true goat I put my boys on all the time!!!

Ngl I absolutely loved when this actually happened, been playing on pc AA on console for ages so tryna learn that 0 AA wasn’t actually pretty fun imo

Love when you state the facts, great video 🔥❤️

the edits in this video are amaziiiing dude nice work scythe!!

@moonportmedia

Жыл бұрын

He did a great job, give him a follow on twitter, you might see more good edits there 👀

Bro this video was fkn sick, do you do your own editing?

The reason for stronger AA for console is lower fps. Did they assume all pc players have god tier pc. I'm playing on 1050ti and 6600 core i5 cpu and barley making 60 fps (sometimes in game is lower), why they're not giving me AA too. After a week of work I come to play some apex and chill and 80% of time some god tier Aim assisted players that 3 stacking kill me. I don't enjoying apex anymore. You may say I'm not a good player but with playing 2 hours a week and 150 ms ping I'm platinum, so I consider myself above average, not best player but I know I'm not that bad too. It doesn't feel fair when someone kills you and before he starts looting your box you know he is a controller player. Sorry I ranted so much.

the eidting is top notch , did you hire new editor or something? anyway nice video , keep it up

U know otter is mnk when he shows PlayStation 4 with a PlayStation 5 controller

I remember when the season came out and all over sudden every enemy became so shit. I always play games without aim assist (yes that is a flex) and it was the most fun 2 days I've had in a long time.

Top notch editing ottr keep it up

even nowadays the thing stays like this; you drop hotzone, get a weapon and die to someone jumping and hitting every shot if you miss one of yours like bad recoil control or misstep or some shit.

I played apex on Xbox to begin with, and never had aim assist on, because I was so used to playing R6 which has no aim assist at all unless you're on the T hunt mode, which even then I had turned off for consistency. Apex I never took too seriously where as Siege I was religiously playing ranked day in day out. Ever since my switch to PC however, going back to controller on Siege feels so much harder than I remember. I couldn't play like I used to. I went back to it for an entire week on xbox and absolutely could not hit shots at all. Whilst siege wont ever change that as I dont think they're ever going to bring PC/Console cross platform out, I can see why apex and so on has such a thing for console players. It is so much harder. It was already mentioned that consoles are worse performing than PC's (in most cases). Another thing to note is that consoles are more so targeted to casual gamers as a whole, being cheaper and much more simple to use. Where as our stupid expensive PC rigs are usually targeted to those either rich enough to just splash out for the hell of it, or gamers who absolutely take their games seriously. There is of course a casual and competitive community on both PC and Console, but this is just a generalisation of specific target audiences. It makes much more sense that someone who is physically striving to be the absolute best in the world at a game, especially FPS' would build an expensive, absolute top of the range PC and peripherals in order to maximise their PC's performance to ensure the smoothest, fastest gaming experience so that they dont miss out on anything that could potentially hinder them if they were playing on a console that can only do X amount that a PC can.

The production on this video oh my!

What kind of nebula and curiosity stream video is this LMAO

i play console and PC and before i got my PC i didnt really think about AA all that much i didnt notice the difference other than on console when i had .6 it frustrated me because i would have my aim dragged to look at shit i wasnt even trying to look at (like when skydiving sometimes the .6 AA just locks onto a team if theyre too close and spins your aim around so if you arent locking your flight path it completely screws your skydive up) .4 felt more comfortable to me but i had to try not get too close before i cracked someone because .6 hit more shots ofc. i personally feel like perhaps .5 for the old gen console might be a good middle ground? Just since next gen consoles will (hopefully soon) get their higher frames and such so .4 for them and keeping .4 for pc would be nice

They should start reducing aim assist levels by 0.05% every season until they reach 0.4 and thus be on par with PC. That way I think they won't mess people's muscle memory.

@Xeonx1337

Жыл бұрын

You’re right, I highly doubt anyone is gonna notice over a span of 40 seasons.

@DaRockCandy

Жыл бұрын

@@Xeonx1337 it'll take 4 seasons, idk why you talk about 40.

@2PHatchwork

Жыл бұрын

All the way down to 0.00%, so people realize FPS games aren't meant to be played on controller.

@LeatherNinja

Жыл бұрын

@@2PHatchwork why would they get rid of their controller and console player base? 💀

@TerpleDerp2600

Жыл бұрын

@@2PHatchwork this is a really terrible take. Like, seriously messed up. You do realize not everyone can afford a PC, right? Getting a good gaming PC that lets you play games is a lot more expensive than playing on console. Not only are they cheaper, but also last longer and need to be replaced less often. What you’re saying is basically “poor people shouldn’t be allowed to play FPS games.” Screw off with that attitude.

This editing style is really nice

4:07 star wars reference?

ayyyo since when was my boy's editing this good?!

I love how as I came to the comments to comment on how well edited this vid was, everyone else already had. I’ll do it anyway though. holy shit man this editing is clean as fuck good stuff keep up the good work

I loved that day actually It felt like a LTM in console lobbies where AA is turned off lol

I remember this day, but I didn't feel the difference because I was already playing on .4 (you can change this in ALC if you're on console)

crazy how that day i got my first 15 kill 3000 dmg game

@pelikanvernichter

Жыл бұрын

Build different

the day no roller player could get any kills cause the AA didnt do most of the work, roller scrubs are hilarious and yeah i do play roller sometimes just to see how it compares and how to counter it the best, anyone saying its not a huge deal is on copium and cant handle the fact they need AA to kill anything, if you arent handicaped and main roller on pc youre just playing easy mode cause you cant aim with m/k.

My bro Scythe going at it with the edits

I think they should put it back to 0.4, that way people will understand will get better in other things like movement or game sense.

I think that in a COMPETITIVE shooter there should be no assistants at all. Turn off all assistants to them in general, let them learn to play. To play well on a mouse, you need to spend a lot of time on training programs, and vegetables with gamepads need to be poke on the buttons for a week, and thanks to the assistants they already play well.

@willlongley34

Жыл бұрын

If you remove aim assist you must also remove all pc advantages to make it COMPETITIVE. no tap strafeing or moving while looting. Does that sound fun to you?

@everope

Жыл бұрын

@@willlongley34 sounds fine to me lol

@Akela3dn

Жыл бұрын

@@willlongley34 Typical excuses for players on gamepads, and this and that can be done with a gamepad. So come up with something better.

@LeatherNinja

Жыл бұрын

You'd have to spend way more time to get the same results on controller and also have worse movements than pc players

@Akela3dn

Жыл бұрын

@@LeatherNinja Not true

When they nerfed the aim assisted it felts more like a buff than a nerf.... Funny part of it was that PC player ask for it.

4:48 my boi luohg

I didn't even know this ever happened I played that season as well and never noticed difference that season until I seen this video so thx good content I guess some ppl really do abuse aim assist

if you've ever 1v1'd a decent controller players close range, you know for a fact controller is completely broken. not to say it doesnt have its intricacies, but bottom line is that close range, its literally an aimbot, and its not even debatable how with how strong it is. rotational aim assist is the problem, it literally aims for you, with out you needing to react.

Rotational AA needs to be removed entirely if it's a PC lobby. No reason that controller should be dominating both platforms due to artificial assistance. People complain about why the skill floor in apex is so high, and the answer is literally because of controller. Artificial "skill" creates a higher "skill" floor. Controller shouldn't be competing in the pro scene at all unless there's zero artificial assistance through RAA. Those who don't believe AA is unfair, I highly encourage you to try the opposite input style and you'll see just how absurd it is. Rotational AA may not have been in your previous games since it's a relatively new "feature", but dear god is it fucking broken.

I play on M & K but aim assist is not broken it is needed for controller players

I never really noticed this cause I set my aim assist values to PC on console. Should I maybe go back to 0.6 to see how strong it is?

very informative!! I learned a lot and knowledge is power thanks for that 💪

I remember when that happened way back when storm point got released or a month after it I mean you can notice it I tried playing on 0.4 aim assist for about 3 days you can hit longer shots better but up close you can't then I switched back and you basically dont have to do anything just hold the right stick in place and let the aim assist do it's job

The Linus tech tips clips he put up at 2:00 is a video about gyro aim. The thing that would mandate the removal of aim assist as it’s just mouse aim for controllers

I used to be VERY passionate in thinking AA is way too strong in Apex. While I still think it should be nerfed a bit (0.4 on console after they get next gen updates), the real advantage controllers have is their ALC, which is why I used to think controller was broken. But even if it is, considering PC has access to utilities like rawaccel, ALC isn't cheating. If anything, PC should get access to something like rawaccel in game, which would allow players to fine-tune their settings even in tourneys. Just like console should get access to more precise movement without the use of macros or scripts. And boom, near perfectly balanced between platforms and inputs(. And before you say it, console players, wait a bit longer for hall-effect sensor thumbstick equipped controllers. Because those don't have any drift. At that point, IMO, a better matchmaking system (basically soft resetting your MMR each season), better ranked system (one that isn't too ratty or killracy, basically season 9 ranked without demotion protection), reworking legend passives and a steady stream of bug fixes and new content is all Apex needs to be "perfect".

Crossplay? I can play with my friend on if he on xbox and im pc?

Some constructive advice for the editor and ottr there were way too much sound effects during the graphics. I found it distracting and unnecessary. They looked very high quality though

So, I remember playing this day. I had a pretty decent evening, not exceptional but not bad. Honestly, I didn't notice a difference (don't know what that says about my aim lol). I'm on xbox and would be fine with aim assist being set at 0.4. I'm more interested in a rework to sbmm (who isn't).

You say this but when I was practicing in the firing range I forgot to turn aim assist back on and I didn’t notice it for about a month

Im not that good at the game but i never noticed a change and i looked at my stream from when the update hit and nothing changed for me

I’m a console player and I still struggle with aim. I’m definitely not beaming people on controller.

I been hearing from PC player that us on Xbox or Playstation have aim assist and it not fair or like we are cheating. I personally hate their opinion on the matter because they see me as a Cheater because I'm not playing on a PC with them? I feel like it getting to the point it feels the same as raciest. I don't cheat. I don't full around with my settings beside turning off getting out of a death box when shot, to Armor Switch because Xbox and playstation can't move when doing so vs PC can duck,or move side to side. My aim is not at the level where I beam people and doesn't miss a single or I would Quit Apex. There will be no skills in the game. No way of me getting better at the game with my skill,just boarding. Yes I know there some settings that turn Aim assist on a level where you can follow players easier but like I said before,that a type of player,I dislike myself or a player without enough skill to play the game right. What I'm saying stop sending the hate this way to Xbox, PlayStation. Show us some respect and drop the aim assist talk.

I played a lot at the time, and didn't notice the change. This makes me wonder if my aim assist even works

Crossplay would take a hit. Apex would lose a decent amount of players. Your friends playing on controller on consoles would consistently rage quit. Queue times increase. The only positive thing is roller players finally realize that aim assist in mid to close range SMG fights is a cheat code.

Honestly, the bigger problem is tapstrafing on controller, yes pc players can do it, but we don’t have aim assist while doing it. I don’t really get mad any more if a level 50 banga console player beams me, because I was there once as well. I’m all for aim assist I just think there are bigger issues that need to be handled.

@klauslunde

Жыл бұрын

that is pretty rare either theyre good at aiming in other games or theyre just using a strikepack

@noahprice3335

Жыл бұрын

@@klauslunde it is on console, but pc players have cfg file which makes it so much easier. Tap strafe Super glides 100% of the time Roller or MnKA lot of these kids with SP don’t know basics coding and can’t program it the way they want.

@BaldMartin420

Жыл бұрын

@@klauslunde strike packs are also a big problem but I’m talking about losers who play controller on pc who edit their analogue inputs to digital inputs so they can tap strafe on controller, but both are really big issues

@klauslunde

Жыл бұрын

@@BaldMartin420 oh yes those are some weirdos like why

I dont really care about this argument, but when I tried using roller just once I literally beam people low-mid range with the least amount of effort I do on mnk, even tho I was just waddling around. Just knowing when to take peaks was enough to outplay people, to the point that it wasnt funny lmao. Plus not all mnk players are sweaty enough to learn tap strafing or wall bouncing, you literally can still see people waddling on mnk, and pros in rollers have proven it possible to use movement tech. One more take is that apex is literally a br game where people get up close to fight, unlike warzone, pubg, etc., where more than half of the player base uses a sniper as a secondary. And who's aim benefits the most at low-mid range? the one with 0.6 AA of course KEKW, the aim assist should be set that at least half of the aim from those beams should come from the player himself, not an AI. (inb4 someone tells me to "just giT gUd" and "sTOp cRyIng" OMEGALUL)

I remember a friend saying that eas unplayable and that they did nerf it, i didn't feel it since I had it off, but man I did enjoy the battles a bit more, people who ran to you no thoughts only monkey with smgs actually thought before approaching and if they didn't i had a much easier time winning

ottr i have learned a lot with your videos i play in mobile but still your tips help a lot thank you for your videos 😁

Funny thing is this was the funniest event that happens in Apex for me

The only solution would be to give an option before queuing up to have mouse and keyboard only lobbies. In addition, there should be an option for only controller lobbies with AA turned off for hardcore controller players.

Honestly this shit is why gyro aim instead of aim assist should be industry standard. It bridges the gap between sticks and mouse. 1:1 controls where you can make flicks and small precise corrections.

It's pretty straightforward; aim assist is designed for people who are bad. The worse you are, the more you can benefit from it. This is why top tier players see no difference in their performance when switching between MnK or the sticks.

Bro this was the best day. I literally had a 30 kd. .4 creates a skill gap on console. .6 has everyone beaming, no matter how bad. They’ll literally be waddling around and then one clip you

Why the random mw2019 clip of shroud at the end though?

honestly, as a console player i loved this change even if it was for a bit, ive always set my aim assist on 0.4 through the alc settings because ive always thought that 0.6 has always been too strong, and theres an argument for 0.4 being too strong aswell but thats not the topic rn, but i liked this change because i felt like everyone was equal and people who were too reliant on the 0.6 aim assist had to actually experience what others experience, but now that its gone i will still continue to purposely lower my aim assist and I do hope that aim assist would get nerfed soon

@okaycoop5856

Жыл бұрын

🤝 What a legend. You should should try kbm

@melvirus7927

Жыл бұрын

@@okaycoop5856 i definitely will! ive been saving up for a pc for a while now and I will definitely switch to kbm!

@errolglenn4548

Жыл бұрын

I've played kbm for FPS games all my life and I agree that controller players should have aim assist and yes it should be 0.4 and not more than that. Also since you're already good on 0.4, you should still stick to controller when you get your PC, you'd be a beast with the better frame rates

i played modern warfare 2 (original) with aim assist off on ps3 because i fucking hated it when 2 people crossed paths in front of my reticle causing it to stick to the space between both players causing me to miss unintentionally

As a console player who recently swapped to pc and mnk. I played w roller on pc and it feels the same as console basicly

I wish respawn would lower aim assist to 0.4 on console permanently or give the option between the .4 and .6. I play 4 3 sense and I prefer 0.4 waaay more than 0.6. The slow down on 0.6 is too much. Whenever I play on pc controller, my aim with 0.4 in pc lobbies is better. I still beam on console but I one clip people much more consistently on pc. 0.6 is only better if you play a higher ads sense which most console players unfortunately seem to do. 9/10 times I spectate someone (that 5th partied me lol), their sense is way faster than they can handle which is why they rely on the aim assist but that doesn't help them in hip fire situations where they can't hit anything lol. Get in a console players face and they can't hit shots.

I started to play without aa since season 10 and I'm remember this day cause that was the only day when console lobby was finaly good