Thank you for watching! I will be updating this comment with any additional games and configuration settings I learn. Be sure to like and subscribe and share this video with a friend if you enjoyed!

@rustymixer2886

6 ай бұрын

Can you use new dual stick saturn controller by retro bit , with dcfighters, dc reciever idea 💡 ? 2 companies same tech?

My blur retro arrived yesterday and boy, oh boy! Fur Fighter was an absolutely chore to play with the standard controller but once configured with modern controls it is actually fun!

@TynologyGaming

8 күн бұрын

Nice! I didn’t get to try Fur Fighters!

Dude, that intro was freakin fire bro!😂

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

🤭🙃

just orderd...looking forward to playing some of these old classics

@TynologyGaming

2 ай бұрын

Nice! Enjoy! 🤘

Loving the production quality, great intro and very good breakdown. I have the Brook Wingman SD, but the fact this is open and remappable is excellent

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

I heard good things about that device also

Wow, I love the intro, I didn't expect that! I remaina fan of the Dreamcast controller, but great to see alternatives.

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

Me too me too!

This is a sick bit of tech, interesting how the shooters fit right in with a second stick. From one Sega fan to another, appreciate you making these videos. Really enjoy the exposure to new ways to enjoy some of my favorite games and console.

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

I appreciate it!

Shenmue is also really cool with looking assigned to the right stick. Even with moving, assigned the D-pad, felt really good.

@TynologyGaming

7 ай бұрын

Ohhhh I never thought of Shenmue and didn’t realize it had a camera look!

@BFKAnthony817

5 ай бұрын

@@TynologyGaming I have the Brook Wingman SD Bluetooth controller dongle and did use that type of control scheme for both Shenmue 1 and 2, as well as for Gundam Side Story 0079: Rise from the Ashes. Controlling mech with D-pad and using right stick to look and aim was much better.

Another brilliant video. Great intro. Cant think of a better way to start the day 😂

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for being here! 😎🤘

Great video! I didn't know this was a thing. It's super cool!

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

Thanks my man. I had heard about some devices that were similar but never any that actually added additional/modern functionality like this. I was blown away!

@NeanderMeander

8 ай бұрын

@@TynologyGaming It's so cool! I still need to play the Dreamcast. I haven't ever even held a Dreamcast controller.

Okay, that's enough! I subsrcibed to your channel! :D Thanks so much for your (fresh and entertaining) Dreamcast content!

@TynologyGaming

5 ай бұрын

You’re a legend! 🙌

Mine just got delivered! Gonna try some of these games tonght.

@TynologyGaming

7 ай бұрын

Enjoy! Thanks for the updates you gave!

One of the best features is being able to map the D-Pad to the LB, L3, R3 or View/Share buttons. A lot of Dreamcast games use the D-Pad for extra functions due to the lack of buttons on the controller.

@TynologyGaming

7 ай бұрын

This is a great point!

That’s awesome dude. Clever to move them to the face buttons and then swap. All with original hardware, that must be a trip lol. I remember remapping Goldeneye controls when it came to the Switch.

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

You could see the devs trying everything to make FPS controls work and it’s amazing that we can finish the mission now!

Thanks for the vid I'll sure get one soon!❤😊 Subscribed!

@TynologyGaming

5 ай бұрын

You are a legend 🤘

Amazing intro subscribed!🎉

@TynologyGaming

17 күн бұрын

You’re amazing

Man this is so cool! I've always wanted to play the Dreamcast version of MDK2, I played the demo when I was kid but I just cant deal with the dreamcast controls anymore, so this is exciting!

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

I’m not sure if MDK2 will add additional controls but let me know if you try it!

@GroovyRecordman

8 ай бұрын

As long as I can remap the controls I should be good, but yeah I'll say something whenever I get to it

@Agnates

8 ай бұрын

What do you mean add new controls? Just gotta remap face buttons used as wasd to left stick and the left stick used as mouselook in game to right stick, same as some of the FPS games shown. L is jump snd R shoot (or might have to reverse those too, I forget atm). D-pad is used for things like weapon/ammo switching and item activation/throwing. It works great reconfigured as such in emulation so should work great with this remapping tool too. Great game and best version, prior to the relatively recent remaster (and still the hardest version, all others since PS2 nerf it). Really polished, underrated game. Its problem is how good and fun the Kurt levels are so it kinda bothers you when forced to play as the other two characters and especially the unconventional Doc. We need MDK3 with that ending already.

Unreal Tournament, Quake 3, Kiss Psycho Circus and Outrigger all had Panther DC support

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

Ah I forgot about the Panther!

😂 Love that intro! You're so cute! I forget how not having dual analog was so limiting. I'm so use to having it that when I play an old game I'm like NO! I would love to try this with Mario 64 🙃 Maybe I'll have a better time 😅🧡

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

Thank you babe! I wonder if Mario 64 would work! You could at least flick the camera around with the right stick if nothing else. 3D Platformers were so rough until Mario Sunshine 😮‍💨

@SkakinBaconMedia

8 ай бұрын

Hi Sally! Keep being awesome too! Also! I finally finished my first Temple in TotK! Wind Temple! I actually thought the boss was easy, or maybe I know how to Zelda way too well hahaha!! Happy gaming to you as well! 🎮🖖🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈😊 Marcus

Love this intro. I love the Dreamcast controller, but it shows it's limits when it comes to quake 3 , if you buy this attachment just for that then yes totally justified. ❤

@TynologyGaming

7 ай бұрын

Yeah this makes FPS games on Dreamcast 10000x better

Unreal Tournament has a configuration preset for the Panther DC. Using the blue retro, the only issue I had was that fire/jump was attached to the face buttons. You'll have to adjust the buttons via the blue retro software to place those buttons where we you want them (L, R). Again, the Dreamcast registers my Xbox One controller as a Panther DC, so we have analog moving and looking. Fabulous!

@TynologyGaming

7 ай бұрын

That’s good to know! I was doing it manually

Those Dreamcast controller haters are gormless newbs. I got your back bro. 🌀

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

🤝🤝🤝 thanks brother

@Jaxxon123

8 ай бұрын

Not me. I never really cared for it, 9/9/99 or now...

Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver of course!

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

I know 2 had a mostly free look camera, I don’t recall if 1 did

Not sure how normal this is but I had a lot of issues connecting my Blueretro to access all these backend features where as pairing and using controls was fine, even picked up inputs through half a foot of concrete. I spent hours between my PC, Steam Deck and Samsung S24 trying to get this all to playball. To finally be able to get my firmware updated and access those features I had to sit my phone ontop of the Blueretro. this was the only way I could reliably maintain a connection as soon as the two were a few inches apart the connection would be lost. That being said the unit itself is a great compliment to the dreamcast and I've finally been able to pack those extension cables away! Being able to use the 8bitdo fight stick is a Dream.

@TynologyGaming

5 ай бұрын

Interesting, I never had this issue, I always connected via my MacBook, sometimes across the room

Bangai-O might be a good game to try as it uses the face buttons or left stick to shoot, and the D-Pad to move. Would be cool to have moving on the left stick and shooting on the right stick.

@TynologyGaming

7 ай бұрын

Gotta try it!!

Thanks so much for this video; I've seen these for sale and wondered how well they would work. Actually what I really want to do is to use a twin stick controller to play the SNES games Robotron 2084 (Williams Greatest Hits,) Super Smash TV, and Total Carnage. I've done it in emulation but I want to do it on my SNES.

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

I haven’t tested any consoles outside of Dreamcast but as long as the console/games can take the inputs, this thing can do it!

I got Outrigger to register an Xbox One controller as the Panther DC. This thing is awesome!

@TynologyGaming

7 ай бұрын

If you use the GamePadAlt config it should work natively

thats sooo cool

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

I was shocked

😊 expendable aka millennium soldier.love a twin stick shooter.. awesome channel

@TynologyGaming

6 ай бұрын

Oh I need to try that one! Thanks!

I did something like this but all I used was the 8-Bitdo sn pro 30 and the brook wingman xb. You can do all the configurations and set profiles with the Sn pro 30 app

@TynologyGaming

3 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s definitely another option. I like the versatility and open source nature of BlueRetro, but that’s a great use of the 8bitdo (I have four of those). Were you able to assign the right stick for camera look on games using that software?

It would be nice if we could get a single neat dongle like the N64 and GameCube. I'm really tired of the ogre adapters sticking out of the controller ports of classic consoles.

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

They’re coming, I know of at least two in development right now

Using the GameAlt function and some remapping, I was able to convert my Xbox One controller into a Twin Stick for Virtual On.

@TynologyGaming

7 ай бұрын

I figured Virtual On would be straightforward. Fantastic

@seand3700

7 ай бұрын

A= Right Trigger B= Right Bumper X= Left Trigger Y= Left Bumber Right Stick = 2nd D Pad Left Stick= D Pad View = D button (for Pause) Start = Start

Robotron 2084 works with a twin stick. The game allows for button mapping.

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

This one wasn’t on my radar

Great video, though I didnt quite understand how you set it up to use a VMU, hoping to play Shenmue 2 with my Switch Pro Controller so would need to save

@TynologyGaming

4 ай бұрын

Thank you! When you set up your BlueRetro device, there is now the ability to emulate a VMU on the BlueRetro itself. Obviously you won’t have the VMU screen but if it’s activated, just boot to your DC home menu and go to the VMU manager, it will ask you to format/initialize the VMU and then you can save games as normal. Basically the BlueRetro itself acts as your VMU and can be used the same. If you want to use an actual VMU, just plug it into a controller on another port while using the BlueRetro also

I like the Dreamcast controller but I'm not gonna lie I was trying to find the second analog stick on it yesterday.

@TynologyGaming

4 ай бұрын

Yesterday being the key word there 🤫

the Dreamcast Controller was the ULTIMATE Quake III Arena Controller. I tried forever to figure out how to wire it to my PC. That being said, the Xbox DUKE...Oddly Similar....Hmmmmmm. Is the BEST Driving Game Controller I don't know why, by the OG Duke & Burnout Revenge is Awesome

Wasn't able to get KISS Psycho Circus to register my Xbox One controller as a Panther DC. I'm not sure why, as it does work with the actual Panther DC.

Also also, my blue Dreamcast controller is boss. 😄

Sub + like ! :D Can yu please add Souls Reaver? It has a tedious cheme for looking around using the d-pad by default LOL

@TynologyGaming

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the support! Soul Reaver may be tough because of the way the camera is tied to the character’s movement (like Super Mario 64), but has that free look mode which I don’t think you can move while doing. I’ll have to dive back in to see if I can get anything working

I love Red Dog. Any luck getting a better control scheme using this ? Seems almost impossible considering the camera is on a toggle like Tomb raider's look function.

@TynologyGaming

7 ай бұрын

I’ll have to check! I don’t have that game anywhere haha

@TheSliderW

7 ай бұрын

@@TynologyGaming I recommend it. It's quite challenging and has a 4 player VS mode.

DC games that use the Twin Sticks Virtual On Xeno Crisis Xeno Cider Battlezone (Atari Anniversar) Robotron 2084 (Midway's Greatest) Outrigger Quake 3 Arena Star Wars Demolition DC games that can use the Panther DC: Outrigger Quake 3 Arena Unreal Tournament Kiss Psycho Circus Railroad Tychoon Centipede, Millipede, Marble Madness, Missle Command (Atari Anniversary) 4 Wheel Thunder Additional Panther DC info: Here are some of the games with additional functionality with the Panther DC Atari Anniversary Edition- Centipede, Millipede, Crystal Castles, Missile Command (Trackball & C, D, Z buttons, controller can also be flipped upside-down to simulate arcade for Missile Command) 4 Wheel Thunder (Trackball can be used for steering & C, D, Z buttons) Vigilante 8 (C, Z, L, R are independent buttons, digital pad can be mapped) Star Wars Demolition (C, Z, L, R are independent buttons, analog stick and digital pad can be mapped) House of the Dead (D button) Guilty Gear X (C, Z, L, R are independent buttons, Analog stick does not work

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

This is a great list! I’d love to try out the rest of these that I hadn’t tested

I'm aware of this, but I love my Dreamcast controller though so for the haters...THHBBBBTTTT!! Hehehe

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

🤘😝🤘

There’s a Panther Dreamcast controller with a flight style joystick and a roller ball. I wonder if this could be coded to act like the roller ball. Then you wouldn’t have to mess with the stick swapping

@TynologyGaming

5 ай бұрын

There are settings to use the panther style, but different games handle inputs differently. Sometimes using mouse look on the right stick is best, other times the panther input is ideal (from what I remember). I do wish there was a way to save configs game-by-game though

Honestly I'm just looking for an affordable wireless option so I can play all of my dreamcast games without having to worry about the cord getting unplugged from a distance or my pets attacking it. Preferably for an original dreamcast controller, but so far no one makes an affordable option yet unfortunately. Thanks for the video

@TynologyGaming

6 ай бұрын

That would be awesome. The new Retro Fighters controller seems to be the closest (although VMU is still wired)

@dreamseeker2346

6 ай бұрын

@@TynologyGaming this is true. I watched a review on that one and I'd rather go with something closer to dreamconn+ if I'm being completely honest, I just can't afford it at the moment unfortunately. I think this option you've mentioned is definitely more affordable than the retro fighters controller though since I already own a ps3 and ps4 but I do intend on picking up a retro fighters controller or two at some point just to see how my friends and I like it

Have you discovered any new games that work well with the blueretro?

Does the controller access the Dreamcast's 2nd analog function (ie panther dc) or just button mapping digital buttons to the 2nd stick? This sound awesome just to map the left stick to the face buttons, which is better than the wingman sd.

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

It actually does both! The “GamePad Alt” selection automatically accesses the second analog function (like Panther and twin sticks), and everything can be remapped in the interface as well. I also saw there are button combo shortcuts to swap between GamePad and GamePad Alt without having to launch the config also

@seand3700

8 ай бұрын

Now I really need this.

Can you use new dual stick saturn controller by retro bit , with dcfighters, dc reciever idea 💡 ? 2 companies same tech?

@TynologyGaming

6 ай бұрын

This is for Bluetooth controllers, I’m pretty sure those both utilize 2.4GHz and the native controller ports (or USB) if I’m not mistaken.

@rustymixer2886

6 ай бұрын

@@TynologyGaming oh ok. But did you ever try that? Might be a cheap solution for those 4 games for dc

You should try KISS Psycho Circus.

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

Ah this one would be good to try

Will this device will allow functions to be assigned to L3 or R3

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

I think so! I’m not home with my Dreamcast for the next week but I’ll have to double check

Hello, I ordered the device after watching your video. Thank you for that. However, I can't get the setup for Quake 3 to work... What do I need to set up on a PS4 controller?

@TynologyGaming

24 күн бұрын

So in the BlueRetro config, set it to "GamePadAlt", this enables the second analog stick. I also suggest dropping the right analog stick sensitivity to 25% (otherwise it's way too sensitive). Then in the game, just remap the controller as you like (step left and right map to the left stick most importantly). Then adjust the "mouse" sensitivity to your liking for the right stick. You can see me doing this at 7:20

@rollzroyal

24 күн бұрын

@@TynologyGaming Thank you, my mistake. I had overlooked mapping the left stick. Now it works perfectly. It feels fantastic to play Quake 3 with Dual Stick on Dreamcast!!!

I have everything you're showing but how do I get into the blueretro configuration ? Do I have to put my Dreamcast Sd card with games into laptop or is there another way to link all of this . To adjust configurations ? I'm confused about all of this . I heard the part about bluetooth but I'm still confused about how all of this can connect .

@TynologyGaming

5 ай бұрын

It connects via Bluetooth, doesn’t have anything to do with the SD/GDEmu. When plugged in, you hold the sync button then use a phone or computer with Bluetooth and go to blueretro.io in a browser, connect to the device to configure it in your browser via the web interface

@raymondmidgett7067

5 ай бұрын

@@TynologyGaming Thanks 👍 I'll get started .

Is there a way to Export Configs for Sharing Purposes?

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

Not as of now, but I was just talking to Darthcloud and he said he would add these configs as presets that can be assigned with one click (I forgot to mention this feature)

Hi! How about Game Saves ? VMU is needed or no ??? I must have original gamepad for this ?

@TynologyGaming

7 ай бұрын

With the new firmware update the device has a built in VMU, just have to enable it. You can also use a normal controller with a VMU in another port if you prefer, but not necessary. Just be sure to initialize/format the BlueRetro VMU in the Dreamcast menu

@dobriyvecherkakdela

7 ай бұрын

@@TynologyGaming Thank you. yes, I have original gamepads and save cards, I was just wondering how it works in blueretro. Do I understand correctly that vmu was added in the new firmware version? So this is not a hardware change? Is this just a software add-on?

@TynologyGaming

7 ай бұрын

@@dobriyvecherkakdela yes, it’s a software addition in recent weeks and uses the internal memory of the device to emulate a VMU perfectly

I think I'll stick to my emulators and whatever controllers I have laying around or use mouse and keyboard as much as possible. M+K is the best controller there is! 😏

@TynologyGaming

5 ай бұрын

Emulation is totally fine. I capture most footage through emulation. Growing up and having a Dreamcast, there’s something special about using that hardware, perhaps it’s just nostalgia. I always opt for the PC versions of any FPS games, as I too am a M&K player. Getting M&K set up on the DC has always been a bit clunky anyway

@MidnightMarrow

5 ай бұрын

@@TynologyGaming Yeah I dunno. I grew up playing Nintendo and up but I started building and gaming on PC at an early age too and it's always been my preference since and not bothering with consoles after PS2.

Can you get as many people contact retro fighters to make a programmable controller with a dual analog stick, I love their controller but I think it needs a second stick.

@TynologyGaming

28 күн бұрын

The issue is that every game that can potentially use a second stick in a modern sense uses the inputs differently. And no platformers (including Sonic Adventure, etc) don’t have second stick support. This didn’t become standard until 2002/2003 after Mario Sunshine unfortunately. So even if they did add a second stick, it wouldn’t do much without extensive configuration from game to game

@Projectdarksource

26 күн бұрын

@@TynologyGaming that is why I said programmable controller with a secondary right analog stick, this way you can change the bindings to make the controller work exactly for each specific game the way you would want them to, Infact the retro fighters controller already has useless shoulder buttons and analog clicking that has zero function, making them programmable and switching their bindings would definitely help make them actually useful rather than a useless function.

And half life!

but what about the vmu?

@TynologyGaming

5 ай бұрын

I made a couple videos about how using the original controller and console is ideal. This is for all the people whining about not liking the controller. It has a virtual vmu for game saves and if you want the screen you can always still use plug in controllers.

Also just learned today that the Wingman SD DOES allow you to swap sticks!

@TynologyGaming

7 ай бұрын

I need to check this out!

@seand3700

7 ай бұрын

I read that you press select + L3/R3 to switch back and forth l.

Cybertroopers Virtual on Good game Hard to control

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

Have you tried with twin sticks?

So that exist for the N64 to?? And what about emulation of dreamcast.?? Better late then never.

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

Yep! There are several devices for N64. I’m not sure about how emulators handle controllers, but I’m sure it’s possible

I know this is a month old but, As a SEGA fan. Anything but a SEGA controller which now there are plenty of choices via Retro Fighters and others. Anything that is NOT Sega or styled in SEGA's style. Is just heresy to me. It's kind of a blasphemy to do that. It's like using Sony gamepads to control Nintendo 64 or SNES. It's just wrong and off. That said, people can do what they want and that's okay, I believe in freedom. For me, I will be sticking to SEGA styled options. Like 8bitDo and Retro fighters etc.

@TynologyGaming

6 ай бұрын

Watch my video defending the Dreamcast controller 👌I made this because I was shocked to play Quake III Arena with dual analog sticks on my stock Dreamcast. Amazing that the ability was coded into lots of these games

@valentine_puppy

6 ай бұрын

I'll give it a go. In that case. Thank you.@@TynologyGaming

Yeah i prefer the Xbox controller

@TynologyGaming

7 ай бұрын

Good thing it’s 2023 🤘

This controller is so bad it made the Dreamcast my least played console I've ever owned. 25 years later I'm enjoying DC way more thanks to the Xbox controller.

@TynologyGaming

6 ай бұрын

🥲

4:45, for those of you who don't feel like waiting damn near five minutes for this guy to finally get to the reason you clicked on this video.

@TynologyGaming

8 ай бұрын

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