Don't know what's more disturbing, her friends' complacency in their eyes wide shut party or the judge deciding that psychopathy is a get out of jail free card.

@vintagetoycollector4983

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the attendees assumed it was some kind of murder mystery thing? Those were popular for a good while esp. among the affluent. Then again, there was more than one party. I can't imagine that working twice. Also, any chance we could get a list of attendees? Just in case, you know, any of us need a good lawyer. We'll know not to use them.

@fellowcitizen

2 жыл бұрын

@@vintagetoycollector4983 Helen Garner's book, or the tele-movie. Also court records of thosecalled as witnesses in the Australian Capital Territory Court records. Good point about Murder Mystery parties in the late 90s. Bachelor of Arts/Law was very common then, too, and doesn't really mean that they became lawyers - in Canbera they are statistically most likely to be working in the Federal or ACT bureaucracy or as academics at the Australian National University.

@kevin.afton_

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody wants to be a busybody.

@JSkyGemini

2 жыл бұрын

​@@vintagetoycollector4983 I used to throw murder parties like that, they were a lot of fun. I'd never even know who the murderer was, I never pulled the murderer's card for myself. Fortunately, all my friends were pretty good at not giving themselves away. But I never actually tried to kill any of my guests for real.

@zetaforever4953

2 жыл бұрын

Don't you think it should be? I mean, jail is meant to punish you for a crime. But if your brain chemicals aren't functioning right, you can't technically be held responsible for your actions. A person with schizophrenia who reacts to hearing non-existent voices isn't being stupid or dramatic, their mind is just not working right. And most importantly, they can't help that it's not working right. Now, if a mentally disturbed person is a danger to others, like this woman was, they should definitely be locked up for the safety of everyone around them. But they should be locked up in a mental health facility (as a precaution) not in a jail (as a punishment).

The fact that her friends were law students just goes to show you can be educated but not intelligent. Thanks for the video!

@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346

2 жыл бұрын

They couldve been both but they were extremly indifferent to the value of human life. If a boy shoves his gf on campus he would be cancelled immediately. Here the attitude regarding MURDER is rather "yass go girl"

@rumchata6569

2 жыл бұрын

@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346 not to make it political but Trump-hate exposed half the country was dumb enough to think with emotions instead of their intelligence

@grantsturgeon7881

2 жыл бұрын

Or ethical

@smaugfrost

2 жыл бұрын

@@rumchata6569 while Trump-love produced insurrectionists who were willing to assault cops to support a lie about a rigged election...

@smaugfrost

2 жыл бұрын

Is it telling that these future lawyers showed a cold blooded response to the prospect of potentially being witness to a murder? Did they see dollar signs from a potential future defendant when they looked at Anu?

Her thinking she was "rotting from the inside out" was actually spot on!

@samlsd9711

2 жыл бұрын

agree.

@annjohnson6193

2 жыл бұрын

That’s probably the only true thing she said.

@karenmattingly8527

2 жыл бұрын

The rotting from the inside out began in her brain. She should have been ]laced in a criminally insane prison before she committed a murder. Is that what can happen when someone continually starves themselves to stay slim and uses hard drugs?

@RDnAC

2 жыл бұрын

And she wasn’t attractive or pretty

@Taki1203

Жыл бұрын

😅

I don't think Dr. Grande needs rest like ever; he seemingly never takes a break. I like to think in-between videos he is fighting crime and saving kittens.

@Catlily5

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully, he is sleeping.

@bthomson

2 жыл бұрын

But I like the saving kittens part!🐈

@heyjude1822

2 жыл бұрын

@@bthomson me too! I'm noticing the comments on his videos are really funny😹

@publicdoename5338

2 жыл бұрын

He doesn't because his full name is Dr. Iced Hazelnut Grande. Imagine being given coffee whenever you're asked your name. "The Caffeine Kid" Henry: Front deskman at a resort The Good Doctor: The Good Doctor, Dr. Iced Hazelnut Grande Henry: "Welcome to the Acme Resort. I'll take your name here and get you fixed with a place to rest. I bet you're ready to relax, Mr...?" The Good Doctor: "Iced Hazelnut Grande." Henry ran off. The idea of relaxing starts sounding better and better. Henry shuffles back. He hands a cup to The Good Doctor. The Good Doctor mentally curses Henry. He then focuses his rage at his parents. Some members of the Grande family claim they named The Good Doctor as they did for free Starbuck's. Iced knew better: his parents were malicious anti-anti-comedians. The couple Grande were the Friday night entertainment for the Manson Family. No, I mean the other Manson Family. The Grande's were seen by the townspeople as even odder than the hippy ranchers. Yeah. Those hippy ranchers. Poor little Iced used to get so hopped up on caffeine his parents would force him to take their Friday Night gig. He'd always finish on Sunday at last call as the rush of caffeine dropped away. He'd then collapse, a sweaty mess, onto the dry grass. One day, an idea occured to The Good Doctor. He laughed. Then laughed some more. Hot scolded many faces before he passed. His heart gave out. 11 years old but you'd have sworn he was 1000.

@bthomson

2 жыл бұрын

Ok! That is hand's down the strangest comment I have ever read!

WTF kind of "friends" are these? I don't see diminished capacity here. She knew exactly what she was doing. The only thing insane here is the criminal justice system in that country.

@austinconnor5297

2 жыл бұрын

Linda, good morning how are you doing? How's the pandemic situation over there in your country?

She's evil and she managed to find other evil people to enable her! I just don't understand how so many evil people can come together so effortlessly.

@joymattson8549

2 жыл бұрын

I was trying to understand how she had ANY friends, never mind a boyfriend.

@andreabeasley3287

2 жыл бұрын

Internet

@sonya3711

2 жыл бұрын

It’s Canberra. Evil people (parliament) abound down there.

@animula6908

Жыл бұрын

It’s called law school

@alarahillton1343

Жыл бұрын

The same as angels arrange Catholics and Christians lives; demons take over unprotected people and arrange them to meet also. Never underestimate the spiritual truth. It’s all in the Bible. There are the righteous; there are the wicked. The meek shall inherit the earth. Blessed are those who cry out for Justice, for they shall be satisfied. You can not serve two masters, meaning the world, and God. You have to choose. Jesus is Lord. 🙏🏻✝️💙🇺🇦

She was right about "rotting from the inside out." Her soul stinks of it. This case is infuriating.

@h00b00

10 ай бұрын

A real Anus Ingh (i can make that joke im indian)

I am floored with not only her serving only 4 years, but the lack of actions from the people attending the "party". Absolutely atrocious. Thank you for your video Dr. Grande. Our household loves you!

@fellowcitizen

2 жыл бұрын

@@jannaZX There have been attempts at law reform in some jurisdictions which have been unable to reach murder convictions, though I don't know what the outcomes were. Certainly on the other side of the country, in WA, two killers recently avoided murder convictions for killing their children and parents respectively.

@kevinouellette5316

2 жыл бұрын

A woman? They get off of crimes because if friggin hot flashes

Just sickening. I can’t imagine the pain of Joe’s family. There is no justice for anyone in this case.

@jesussaves7973

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yes there will be justice !!! God is a just God!!

@MegaMARLEEN1

2 жыл бұрын

Hope God helps

@BenState

2 жыл бұрын

@@jesussaves7973 please, how do you know?

@coweatsman

2 жыл бұрын

@@jesussaves7973 But wishful thinking. There is no evidence for the existence of a just god. In fact the bible gives evidence of a genocidal monster if the bible is evidence for anything at all. But thanks for proselytising when no one asked for it.

@heyjude1822

2 жыл бұрын

@@coweatsman I like the idea of God as the good that exists in most of us kind of joined together to make life better. It's not proselytizing. You can still slam it if you'd like😂

Shouldn't these so called dinner guests "friends" be found guilty as an accomplice ????

@daviedood2503

2 жыл бұрын

No just her friend would bc she bought some of the drugs and Gave it to her. They just pretend like they didn't know anything. Failure to act wouldn't stick bc a call WAS made to the cops. Iresponsible people can't be thrown in jail though. That's like if u drive by a car crash and don't stop, you'd be charged with failure to render aid. You don't HAVE to stop, ur not obligated to. Kinda tough and cold I know 😕

@ladybuggs11

2 жыл бұрын

Duty to Rescue depends on the state in the US. In Wisconsin if you know that a crime is being committed, and that a victim has suffered or may suffer bodily harm, you have a duty to call police or provide assistance. Other states have similar statutes, but they are not widespread across the US, and some are very specific in nature.

@thereal4113

2 жыл бұрын

@@daviedood2503 I could not sit at a dinner table knowing the host was going to poison another guest. Where is their moral compass???

What strikes me is that even if he hadn’t died the second time, she also committed assault twice. So if her friends didn’t think she’d actually go through with killing him, they did witness assault both times. Morally bankrupt all of them.

@pulaski1

2 жыл бұрын

Lawyers are all morally bankrupt? Really? LOL

@ethorii

2 жыл бұрын

@@pulaski1 I'd say charging people in need of their services $350 an hour is poor morality

@alimar0604

2 жыл бұрын

I agree 🇬🇧

@MegaMARLEEN1

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree, all have some kind of a problem with values, and instead seem to find putting poison in someone's cup, and than injecting heroin, quite normal. This is MAD, SOOO MADddd, they were studying to be lawyers????? Really, where is this bold and uncaring drinking partying going to????????

@rebeccacoffman3497

2 жыл бұрын

They don't call them sharks for nothin'. The prerequisite for being a lawyer is ... well, I can't say, but they truly are by and large an animal of a different color, and not in a good way.

As an Aussie I remember this. I was utterly disgusted that none of her friends didn't speak up. There was many negative comments about these students, especially given they were law students! Regards the sentencing, it is always light compared to America, as none of the Aussie governments want to build jails so they shove the criminals out way too early.

@Jenn_80

2 жыл бұрын

This is interesting perspective that i have never thought of. I have wondered why the sentencing in Australia is so light... i am definitely curious to do more research into this based on your comment. Thanks!

@TheLurker1647

2 жыл бұрын

You wouldn't have to build prisons if you just sent murderers like this psycho to the gallows where they belong.

@TheLurker1647

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jenn_80 I reckon it's in the blood, being the spawn of transported criminals.

@matthewlaurence3121

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the part of the reason America has such long sentencing not the reason Australia doesn’t. A large part of it is fundamentally down to rights and compassion; the system was sharply criticised in colonial days for brutality and that momentum has continued to the present, long after the judiciary has become soft. It’s what Australia is.

@naomiminame6855

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheLurker1647 The problem with Australia isn't that so many of us are descended from convicts. It's that so many of us are descended from prison guards.

It is kind of terrifying that she managed to convince the entire court to be on her side.

@daviedood2503

2 жыл бұрын

That's a woman under the court of law. Borderlines can mimic sadness and distress very well.

@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346

2 жыл бұрын

Introducing: female privilege

@tracesprite6078

2 жыл бұрын

@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346 Yes, women get away with murder much more often than men do.

@qei431.

2 жыл бұрын

@@tracesprite6078 lol and women can't be charged with rape

@SweetSourPickle

2 жыл бұрын

It's called the P-Pass.

It's been my experience during 57 years of life that some people are so astonishingly evil, they appear to be insane, but are not.

@fellowcitizen

2 жыл бұрын

Good point

@rajrajn3864

2 жыл бұрын

So true.

@stefanforrer2573

2 жыл бұрын

depends on how you define insane, i'd call extreme narcissists like anu definitely insane but i would also say that that is what actually makes them more dangerous... also, this would imply that every serial killer ever would have to have deminished resposibility, since they clearly all have very pronounced mental health issues.. i just don't get why courts and lawyers think that people with severe mental health issues should get out sooner and are less of a danger to others

@heyjude1822

2 жыл бұрын

Wait til you get to be my age😂

@abmo32

2 жыл бұрын

@@stefanforrer2573 especially considering an insane amount of the most scary and dangerous criminals are Cluster B and psychopaths. Dr Grande makes a living off analyzing exactly this, basically all the serial killers and repeating offenders have similar mental health issues and that is exactly what makes them so dangerous in the first place. No idea how this makes any difference for the victims and the safety of society as a whole, it's such a random double standard that is most obvious in borderline.

This story was SO insane. Haven’t seen too many professionals cover this story. Thank you

@Whatsup766

2 жыл бұрын

Helen Garner wrote a fantastic book on this case. She attended the trial and interviewed people involved. John Cinque’s constellation I think it is called.

@Natalia-hf3et

2 жыл бұрын

@@Whatsup766 ah, THANK YOU. I’m going to look for it. 🙏🏽

@fellowcitizen

2 жыл бұрын

There's also a tele-movie based on Garner.

@1915FadedBelly

2 жыл бұрын

Look under Crimes that Shocked Australia. I think that’s it. It’s quite in depth, goes more in depth than this.

@Natalia-hf3et

2 жыл бұрын

@@1915FadedBelly yes, that’s where I first heard about the crime. I like when several people cover it because they each give a different perspective and will delve into the backgrounds in a slightly different way. Thank you🙏🏽

Not the kind of friends I want around. "With friends like that, who needs enemies?"

The fact that she took someone life, only served 4 years and was able to get a masters degree...when most law abiding citizens can't even afford the schooling needed to obtain a masters. Just floors me. Does the life of the dead person mean so little that they allow these atrocious sentences and these "rights?"

@MsSilverTulip

2 жыл бұрын

"Most law avoiding citizens can't even afford the schooling needed to obtain a masters" Let me guess. You're USian, aren't you? Newsflash: here in Australia you don't have to pay for your tuition up front. Every Australian is eligible for tertiary student loans, and those student loans are very low interest and only required to be paid off very gradually via the tax system once you earn a good salary. The injustice is that your country doesn't offer this to its citizens.

@leaharchambault5796

2 жыл бұрын

@@mud6866 compared to the US? idk...

@CherFREEMarauder

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmmm ok. Still payin student loans at 40ish 😚☺

@JDAbelRN

2 жыл бұрын

I would be afraid to live in Australia 🇦🇺, would never receive justice if a crime perpetrated against me or family.

@leaharchambault5796

2 жыл бұрын

@@JDAbelRN at least you won't get shot by a "patriot" at Walmart, like in the good ol' US of A.

I grew up with a cluster B sibling, and still 65 years later question my own sanity at times. Thank you Dr. Grande for all of your insight on personality disorders. It helps me to think I may be OK. I appreciate your content -- good luck through the new year.

@skunkrat01

2 жыл бұрын

I am a cluster B sibling and trust me most of the ways we hurt people is a response to all the ways we want to hurt ourselves. Nothing is worse than loving people and wanting to leave them at the same time. Don't hate us, hate the mental disorder we will have to learn to live with at all the normal stages of human life

@OGitGirlJess

2 жыл бұрын

I grew up with a histrionic mother. I’m a grown woman and she has been dead for years and I still have very bad dreams about things that happened 34-35 years ago. I understand you 100%.

@leahrenea2709

2 жыл бұрын

As a social worker in a locked psych facility I know how difficult it can be to deal with anyone with these types of disorders. The difference is that I'm a trained professional and get to go home at night. I can't imagine growing up with it, whether from a sibling or parent. My heart goes out to you.

@juliebraden4865

2 жыл бұрын

@@OGitGirlJess I'm finally realizing, at 63, that u never outgrow the scars of childhood, imho. It's like death of a loved one. Time helps healing, but ache is always there. U get through the best u can. And forgive yourself for not having the ability to completely erase it, imho. It shapes us. It's bittersweet. Hopefully more sweet eventually.

@yaelfeder9042

2 жыл бұрын

We’re not all evil. I’m sorry for what you went through with your sibling though. How old was your sibling when diagnosed? Normally those disorders don’t start until young adulthood or adolescence

She had serious issues constantly. A narcissistic person hooking into a kind guy ends bad usually. 4 yrs too light. Sad case, thanks for covering Dr G😊🧡🧡

@Jay-hp6pu

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh if anyone meets a person with those eyebrows and keeps them in their lives, it’s 100% their fault at that point. Massive red flag.

@aaliahmonteiro

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jay-hp6pu LMAOOOO! Was thinking that 🤔

@zenawarrior7442

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jay-hp6pu Yes in some pics she looks like a 😈with them so high

@marybell2002

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen interviews with Joe's parents and it's obvious his mother wears the pants in her relationship with her husband who kind of fades into the background. I think thats why he overlooked a lot of Anu's narcissistic and controlling behaviour. I think parents sometimes inadvertently create the perfect victim.

@scmalnis

2 жыл бұрын

To be kind is good but to be stupid can be fatal. That's why I always teach my daughters to say no when they detect any attempts of narcissistic manipulation and they should stay away from any sexually immoral people. A woman who just knows you and already seduces you to bed is not a good woman. That's how a good but stupid man falls.

Dr. Grande is not only a therapist, educator and KZread sensation, he’s apparently psychic too bc I was going to request this very topic today!! 🤯 I don’t know how you do it, Doc, but please never stop your good work!

@DrLC.

2 жыл бұрын

@@mego5078 Yes! Goodness, I can’t believe I forgot my favourite quality!

@twilliams7547

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!! I was going to come on and request Dr grande do a video on kyron horman, I came onto KZread and boom, there it was. He's awesome. (This was awhile ago)

@cdavidlake2

2 жыл бұрын

He's not only tuned into the zeitgeist, he *is* the zeitgeist.

@DrLC.

2 жыл бұрын

@@cdavidlake2 Hahaha! Too funny!

@llaneloc

2 жыл бұрын

He's a pretty solid PR rep for his new sponsor too. He is in danger of attaining CULT LIKE STATUS As acolytes... we need to remain independent free thinkers and not get too carried away by Dr Grande's alluring insights and compelling delivery

I would fully expect that every single one of the law students to not be able to get their law license. They have to go through a process where their integrity is gone through with a fine tooth comb. I would hope that each and every one of those students never got their license.

@mikebond6328

2 жыл бұрын

Integrity is not a requirement of the bar.

@graykobain6001

2 жыл бұрын

Most went on to graduate and practice, if I remember correctly. It's crazy.

@kayleenfeher4341

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikebond6328 Are you an attorney? Pretty sure that the guy I used to date (who is an attorney), his father, and all of his classmates that became attorneys all had to go through the vetting process.

@kayleenfeher4341

2 жыл бұрын

@@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim The United States, both Federal and State bars.

@kikikauffmann

2 жыл бұрын

In Australia you are obliged to disclosure any negative information from legal problems to lost points in your drivers license anything that might affect your character - anyone involved in a murder investigation would not be able to practice at least currently - even if you’re not found guilty

Singh should have gotten a longer sentence.It’s concerning that no one took her seriously. Great analysis Dr Grande!!

@MegaMARLEEN1

2 жыл бұрын

Come on everyone, is murdering premeditated , announcing it during a party, 'just normal????' I am in disbelief that this is taken so softly, values really have to come back urgently.

@fellowcitizen

2 жыл бұрын

@@MegaMARLEEN1 Personally, I don't care if she's insane or not - there are too many intrusive laws which burden good citizens, however murder is a crime which must be punished as long as the perpetrator is known. Whether the auspice is crime or insanity, a murderer, unless acting in clear self-defence, must be imprisoned for 20yrs+.

“So I’m guessing that’s a ‘no’ on the forgiveness issue.” 🤣 My thoughts exactly Dr. G! What a dreadful performance by the court, allowing someone to make fools of all of them and walk away from murder with a smirk on her face.

@austinconnor5297

2 жыл бұрын

Anna, good morning how are you doing? How's the pandemic situation over there in your country?

Where I live, someone who successfully pleads insanity in a murder case will be automatically regarded as a public danger and forcibly committed "until the insanity remits" - i.e., for life. I think this is excellent policy both as a deterrent for fraudulent defenses and as a contribution to public safety. Someone like Singh should never walk the streets again - from a completely rational standpoint, I mean. If she is incapable of controlling herself to the extent where she will stage extremely complex premeditated killings, she needs to be removed.

@ghosttowntomato

2 жыл бұрын

I’m shocked this isn’t a legal requirement EVERYWHERE!! No wonder ppl throw around the ‘insanity’ excuse so much! Good God

@qei431.

2 жыл бұрын

@@ghosttowntomato yeah they throw it around a lot but women usually get away with it

@qei431.

2 жыл бұрын

@@ghosttowntomato it's very hard to win an insanity plea and apparently a lot of people say they'd rather be in prison

@martyal

2 жыл бұрын

@@qei431. prove it.

@tracesprite6078

2 жыл бұрын

@@martyal Watch the various news items. Women often get lighter sentences.

Hard to believe that Singh got such a low sentence, even with her mental health. I'm sure she knew what she was doing. Amazing to know that the students would not intervene knowing it was a killing party!! Thank you for your analysis Dr. Grande!

@austinconnor5297

2 жыл бұрын

Elaine...........good morning how are you doing? How's the pandemic situation over there in your country?

Not only did she take his life, she took a piece of his loved ones as well. A part of them that can never be retrieved.

I don't understand how someone like Singh had any friends, let alone a boyfriend. I would give her a wide berth and warn others to stay away. She did know how to manipulate everyone! Scary.

That showed awareness to give the 911 operator the wrong address. She stalled first responders until the victim died.

@austinconnor5297

2 жыл бұрын

Dena Denise, good evening how are you doing? How's the pandemic situation over there in your country?

@emmagatewood3898

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. There's that BPD manipulativeness. So revolting that that she only served 4 years🤢

I'm really concerned about those law students. It's unfortunate they weren't advanced in their discernment.

@coweatsman

2 жыл бұрын

They were practising criminal law by practising as criminals.

I hadn't heard about this case before and I was initially happy when you said that her boyfriend had survived after the first attempt but that happiness sank when you said that the second time he did finally pass away. I just can't grapple with how people can be so cavalier with other's lives--like they have the power over another living or dying. I have such a fear of sociopaths like Singh for these types of reasons.

I tend to agree with Joe’s mother when she said that Singh is “the devil and a monster.” Her manipulation was boundless! In cases like this, I think it’s a challenge to find the right punishment given the presence of mental illness. However, as you pointed out, one of the goals of the justice system is to protect society and in this case, they failed miserably. Fantastic job Dr. Grande, thank you!❤️ Also, I will check out your sponsor.😉

@JustDr.S

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Rejane. I think my account is still dead. Could you do me a tiny favor? Could you please reply to this comment with anything? Hi, or yes, anything, so I will know if my accounts been fixed? I'd really appreciate it. I miss replying! It's killing me. 😭 Thank you. I hope you can read this.

@joymattson8549

2 жыл бұрын

how can these judges be so ignorant and naive??

I wish that more people see your analysis of this sad case because many people unfortunately stay in their toxic relationships instead of looking for help to breaking up their ties with those kind of difficult people. I wish all victims freedom and that they receive help❣Stay strong❣🙏

@bthomson

2 жыл бұрын

Good empathy here!

@daviedood2503

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you much needed today. First time not having them around for Xmas and new year. 13 years and this is an odd experience.

@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346

2 жыл бұрын

And it's important to see that toxicity and violence in relationships is nothing that exclusive comes from the male.

@MegaMARLEEN1

2 жыл бұрын

Free free freedom and just just justice for the victims and their relatives.

@tracesprite6078

2 жыл бұрын

@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346 I agree. In the case of Anu and Joe, I think that their relationship was usually mutually supportive. They both suffered from depression and they planned to die together. I can't believe that the friend kept going and fetching more and more drugs. She could have just refused to do that.

I lived in a place in Canberra 2 streets down from this murder when it happened. Walking past the house afterwards always gave me chills.

No matter who tries to teach you lessons about life, you won’t understand it until you go through it on your own.

@Mama_Bear524

2 жыл бұрын

This is so true. I wish it wasn’t

@cassandraespinosa2223

2 жыл бұрын

TOTALLY AGREE 100%!!

@DH-ve5bl

2 жыл бұрын

@ ALEX. P. I disagree. I’ve had therapists over the years teach me how to notice certain situations without getting caught up in them.

@bjkarana

2 жыл бұрын

Nah. As a young man, I knew enough to avoid dating certain types of women based on others' experiences and just common sense.

@mikebond6328

2 жыл бұрын

Common sense is not very common.

Being from Australia, and after watching a documentary some time ago on this story. I could never and still never understand that nobody in that group said or did anything!

The whole act of the murder feels like something out of a Hitchcook film or Agatha Christie novel. That the law students that were invited were more curious than anything else just add to that feeling.

@Natalia-hf3et

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, she was evil

@MegaMARLEEN1

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's perfect for a Hitchcock story, God damned

I had to press pause on this one, Doctor. I hope you speculate on why these friends were so relaxed about the murder/suicide dinner party. Could it be that attorneys have a higher level of psychopathy???? This amazes me and not in a pleasant way.

@joymattson8549

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, I believe there are statistics showing psychopathy is more prevalent in lawyers, ministers and doctors.

I love the way you actually look in to the backstory, unlike others..

@smushbrain

2 жыл бұрын

The causes and history are so important. So many people simply look at the end results and think the simplest explanation is true.... no. Some people have sick malicious desires. Without taking a deeper dive, you are doing a disservice to justice and reality. There are too many egotistical and selfish people who assume otherwise.

Okay so my deal is this Dr. Grande, why is it that when an individual suffers from a personality disorder or mental condition it deserves a lighter sentence? I understand the concept of diminished responsibility but I would argue these individuals are more dangerous because of their mental health, they are more likely to re-offend. so why should they be let out of prison earlier? If Anu served 4 years got out and continued her behavior - What was the point of the sentence? I feel like the evidence of the murder being premediated mitigates the mental factors. She had to be in her right state of mind to plan execute, and re-execute her murder plot when it failed. That judge was incompetent.

@Onus6688

2 жыл бұрын

Would you punish an abused and beaten kid for retaliating after years of abuse and mental distress the same as the parent that was doing it in the first place? It's very complicated and nuanced, when people plead insanity they usually stay in mental health places longer than thier sentance anyway, we arent just letting people with mental health issues go free

@freedomfries6618

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, it's like these people are evil. They were born evil, are gonna stay evil, and will die evil. Let's go easy on them. They can't help it.

@fatoucham9286

2 жыл бұрын

I agree that the judge on this case is incompetent for the fact that it was a premeditated murder and she didn't get get the maximum sentence of life in prison is mind blowing😡...she is a danger to society! She should be locked up and the keys to her cell be thrown into the Atlantic Ocean!

@BarnaliD

2 жыл бұрын

@@fatoucham9286 haha! The ATLANTIC Ocean 🤣 I love it!

@joymattson8549

2 жыл бұрын

@@freedomfries6618 easy to say if you're not one of their victims

I remember this happening, I lived in Canberra at the time. It was so awful and Joes' family didn't get the justice they deserved. Canberra ( the Nation's capital), has an incompetent justice system. Criminals often get small sentences, or get off on "technicalities". She was mad as a cut snake ( Australianism), and her UNI dinner companions discracefully culpable. Thanks for your consise analysis. :-)

“ I’m guessing that’s a no”. Lol. You kill me doc

The fact that a whole dinner party full of people went along with this TWICE is just unimaginable, not to mention SICK!!!!!!

Thank you for your analysis of this case which really traumatised me when I found out about it. I was living in Canberra and teaching at the Australian National University in the 1990s. I taught a course in Applied Ethics, which mostly philosophy students but also some taking law attended. In one class, discussing the limits of individual autonomy, I used various possible cases in discussion, including the scenario of coming home to find your housemate has taken an overdose with the intent to end their life - what would you do? When I taught in the UK, this case was always the one that caused students to change their minds about the extent of autonomy and universally responded, call an ambulance, try to help them. To my utter horror, in Canberra, a majority opinion was that your friend wanted to die so you should just leave them to it. When I found that several law students attended the dinner, thinking that it was some suicide pact between Singh and Joe, I was gripped with horror wondering if any of them had attended my class, or been party to any such discussion. The idea that just allowing someone to go ahead and die like that is just 'oh, individual autonomy' just freaks me out. In class I usually emphasise trying to be neutral so students can form their own ideas, but in that class, I made it clear how horrendous I found their views.

Curious to know if any one of those "friends" tried to talk to Anu about her plans. Probably not if she was so manipulative. I get the impression that people tend to be afraid, subconsciously, of manipulative people. As if they know something is wrong.,, but if they try to get too involved. they will become victims also. Poor Joe. Where was his friends? Very disturbing case. Stuff movies are made of, Thanks for another interesting anaysis

@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346

2 жыл бұрын

She just emancipated her self over his patriarchal oppressiveness

@thereal4113

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. The murderer is inviting you to guest/witness a murder. How can a decent human being go along with this. Truly bizarre. 👺

@tracesprite6078

2 жыл бұрын

@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346 I assume that you are being ironic. Joe was a decent, quiet fellow who suffered from depression. Both of them had planned their suicides but in the end Anu killed Joe but not herself. Both of them were mentally unwell.

@qei431.

2 жыл бұрын

@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis4346 he was submissive and she made him tell her she's pretty all the time she was a controlling narcissistic ass

@Whatsup766

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently they didn’t take it seriously

Glad I don't live anywhere near this gal or her evil 'friends'. there is something . . . a lot of things, very, very wrong with all people involved in this story (including the justice system).

Weird. I just watched this story last night and felt so sorry for the young man and his family and can’t believe the light sentence she got. So sad.

Thank you Dr. Grande for you concern regarding this case. It is troubling and heartbreaking that the criminal was considered and not the victim.

I didn’t realise a cluster B personality disorder could be used as a mental health defence. I can’t imagine that a serious offence would be committed by someone without a cluster B personality disorder.

@austinconnor5297

2 жыл бұрын

Diana Deane, good evening how are you going?

On point. Where I live, pleading to be insane will, if successful, have you committed to a psychiatric ward for at least 15 years. I'm no professional but it seems like a sensible thing to me.

This story is mind-boggling. Absolutely unbelievable. There must’ve been major red flags considering how insane she was. She even looks insane in her pictures.

Two very recent cases in Western Australia also avoided prison. A mother killed her two daughters with bladed weapons and rope; the elder, 10yo, daughter resisted unsuccessfully. It was pre-meditated, and she claimed that she killed them since she intended to kill herself and they would not be cared for - despite the fact that her husband lived with them. In the second recent case, a son killed his parents with a pick-axe, and then immediately called the Police and confessed. Both are in MH facilities.

Looks like her quest for physical perfection stopped before she got to her eyebrows.

@austinconnor5297

2 жыл бұрын

Coleen Hudson, good evening how are you doing? How's the pandemic situation over there in your country?

@joymattson8549

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, she isn't even close to attractive.

Invites people over to dinner to watch her kill someone? What is wrong with those people? University students? Not a particle of conscience among them? I would have turned her in before she could have done it. What is wrong with people?

When a thumbnail says "dinner party of death".... I just have to watch that 😂

I don't understand why friends are allowing this to happen? This is odd, I don't understand? How would this even happen that people would go to a dinner party like this ?

@bellyfulochelly4222

2 жыл бұрын

Right? These psychopaths actually went to a TWO dinner parties like this.

Maybe they thought is was like a murder mystery dinner?

@cappmom5

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking too.

Speaking as an Australian, I am frequently appalled by the light sentences handed out in our courts. Murders and some other pretty horrendous crimes. I always give a silent cheer when I see clearly guilty murderers get handed real life sentences in the US. Talking about rehabilitation is one thing, but if you cruelly take someone’s life it should be a combination of punishment, and as you mentioned here, keeping them out of society where they would endanger other people. It is in this country anyway, pretty clear that human life is not held in very high regard, if you can kill a person and be out of jail in less than 20 or even 10 years as in this case.

I'm always confused regarding the culpability of people with "mere" personality disorders.

@marjieestivill

2 жыл бұрын

Ditto me

@4manonarts

2 жыл бұрын

?? If you do not understand the nature of your behavior to begin with, how can you be held accountable? Also, personality disorders tend to be formed from traumatic experiences so a reform approach would be more effective in treating them. Regardless of the labels attached, there is still a human there. So our priority should be to aid people so they can lead fulfilling lives.

As an Australian I've been hoping you could cover this. I'm absolutely baffled by my judicial system allowing this woman to walk free.

What happens all too often when wealth and privilege initially shelter from consequences, and then furtherly wrongfully encourage down a path of broad,mutual, destruction. A not uncommon scenario, - along with the light sentencing that ultimately resulted.

Dr Grande, happy new year. Thanks for covering this case. Great job!

How does any "Law student" attend an event (two times) in which the host claims she will murder someone?!? Is that a law school from the "Idiocracy" universe?!?

You're sooo smooth Dr Grande -- slipping the sponsor message in like that! I would normally skip over ads, but your ultra calm demeanor and pleasant tone was enough to keep my finger away from the video progress bar because I wanted to listen to everything you were telling us!

Dr. Grande, just so you know, Canberra is another one of those Australian cities that is pronounced unusually. It is actually said "Can-bruh", with the e not pronounced, or by Australians often "Cam-bruh". You have done a great job getting the pronounciations of Brisbane and Melbourne so I hope to hear you nail this one too in the future!

@rockyfalldownstairs

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh

@jrt818

2 жыл бұрын

Wonder how the American warships Canberra and the B-57 bomber are properly pronounced plus the Deep Space radio telescope in Canberra.

@mikebond6328

2 жыл бұрын

Hanna Barbera Bruh.

@coweatsman

2 жыл бұрын

Except for Peter Gravy in Mike Carlton's Friday News Review satire.

This case floors me. I think Singh could be charming when she wanted to influence others. I know many attorneys, and I am shocked that those who attended the party were informed of the murders full well knowing a murder could occur. Again, intoxicated by the charm of the assailant. Fascinating case! Thanks for your commentary.

Spot on! I’m going to plug your book “ harm reduction “ just got it yesterday all ready almost half way through. It’s definitely keeping my interest and for me that means it’s pretty darn good! Thanks Dr. Grandest

@austinconnor5297

2 жыл бұрын

Mimi Enan, good evening how are you doing? How's the pandemic situation over there in your country?

Happy New Year, Dr. Grande! Looking forward to watching all your uploads kn 2022, including Bella Grande Media. Thank you, as always, from Virginia.

Happy New Year Dr Grande! Hope it will be a wonderful one! Thank you!

Happy New Year, Dr. Grande to you and yours.🌞 Thank you for all you do! 🥳

Happy New Year Dr. Grande! I hope it's filled with success and peace for you! Hopefully you hitting a million subs and my graduation from college! Your explanation of standard deviation in a previous video saved my bacon last semester 🤣

What kind of friends are these?

This case has always made me so mad. I don’t know why anyone would be deterred from committing horrible crimes if you can claim you’re mentally and essentially walk away with no consequences. Clearly this person is a threat to society and the punishment did not at all match the crime. Honestly there are so many criminal cases that have played out similarly in Australia. Seems like the place you want to live if you want to commit some serious crimes and get away with it. Happy New Year Dr Grande!

An analysis of Antonio Brown would be appreciated.

@AMM3.

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah.. poor Antonio... What a guy

@nicklager1666

2 жыл бұрын

@@AMM3. im not sure that Grande can analyze that guy but i would enjoy seeing him try. XD

@StefDjordjevic33

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicklager1666 A lot of football fans point to that blow to the head that AB received from Vontaze Burfict as the starting point of his behavioral issues but I think he had character issues even before that.

@AMM3.

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicklager1666 agreed 😂

@faith5563

2 жыл бұрын

In a nutshell: Spoiled overpaid athlete

Hello Dr. Grande❣️ Thank you for the new video! I've got everything I need to chill out now. Coffee ✔️, new Dr. Grande video & none of my kiddos next to me that I need to tend to at the moment. Thank you sooo much Dr. Grande!!

Wow! As usual, very, well presented, Dr. Grande

Very interesting video Dr G - thank you for your thoughts. Happy New Year to you ! All the best for 2022. Looking forward to your upcoming vids. Cheers 😎✌💖👋👍

Go away responsibilities! It's time to watch a new video.

Why are criminals in Aussie and other "democratic western" countries let go so lightly? If this happened in an Asian country she would get a firing squad within 2 years. She calculated and planned multiple times.

A belated Happy New Year too you and your loved ones. Thank you so much Dr Grande.

Outstanding job as always!! need more judges with your experience and great common sense knowledge as well!!

You make my day everyday Dr Grande! I’ve not heard of this story before, incredible how she only served four years! I agree with your opinion 100%, she definitely should have remained in jail. Best wishes for 2022 from Galway Ireland

@jannaZX

2 жыл бұрын

Australian courts don't take murder or manslaughter very seriously. If the person is drunk and on Meth, they usually don't get jail time at all

@ruthruane

2 жыл бұрын

@@jannaZX I didn’t know that. That’s crazy.

Can’t wait to watch! Could you cover the Lacy Spears/ Garnett Spears case? It’s a muchasuen (spelling?) by proxy case.

@cathrinerhardt

2 жыл бұрын

It's Münchhausen. (not trying to be a grammar n**I here, just wanting to help since you asked for spelling)

@lucykeegan1160

2 жыл бұрын

@@cathrinerhardt Thanks, lol! I could have looked it up but I wanted to get the comment up ASAP.

Another great video Dr. ☺️

Hello Dr. Grande. I can't keep up with you. Marathon time again. Masterful Analysis As Usual.

I’m at 3:30 or so and I cannot believe this! What?

The other students are the most troubling. It's not clear how she informed other students how Joe would die. If she spontaneously said "I'm gonna kill him", that could be interpreted as her just being angry at Joe and the students, understandably, might not give it another thought. If she described to other students a highly detailed plan as to how she was going to kill him, that's totally different and the students should have done something to stop it.

@gayleandreah

2 жыл бұрын

I'm amazed that nobody at least called her parents, or police, or someone. Even is she was 'only raving'. If you want to kill people, and involve others? She sounds like a psychopath. No soul. And they all 'feel sorry' for her. I don't. Not a bit. She's evil. And wants to manipulate others into her evil. That's the worst.

@tracesprite6078

2 жыл бұрын

Joe and Anu invited their friends to a suicide dinner party so all the students knew where the two suicides were planned to happen. Any one of them could have picked up a phone and anonymously sent an ambulance over to that address and saved Joe's life.

@kenya1067

2 жыл бұрын

@@tracesprite6078 that's literally insane. Like what the heck. That's so weird. So were they both injecting one another?

I found your analysis of this topic to be interesting. Thanks for posting!

Dr. Grande coming in hot with the sponsor!! The only channel I don’t fast forward when they talk about a sponsor ad.

Good analysis, Dr Grande. Bad relationships have cost many people their lives. Singh had mental health issues, but she still knew what she was doing. In some ways, isn't group think helpful in society? It wasn't in this case, but I see a lot of it in organized religion, the work place, etc. I think it helps the government maintain control. Of course, I might be confusing group think with cooperation.

@seancompton5393

2 жыл бұрын

I say education doesn't equal morality the value of human life. Reminds me of the case where a friend walked into a restroom in Los Vegas casino witnessing his friend committing murder/rape on a young girl and walks out like nothing happened

@mikebond6328

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on your perspective I guess.

I know it's moot, but if the world was run by Dr Grande's logic and reason (or at least WITH his logic and reason), we'd be so much better off. This was quite the whirlwind case, I appreciate your analysis.

Always enjoy your content.

Happy New Year Dr. Grande. Another balanced , intelligent, and insightful psychological analysis. I agree she avoided accountability and remains a danger to society. 💫 Thumbs up! My daily visits to your brilliant mind continues to be my happy place.

I live in Canberra. This was huge. And weird. There is an Australian author Helen Garner who wrote: Joe Cinque's Consolation, which won the Ned Kelly Award for Best Crime Book. It reminds me of the Jody Arias case a little bit.

I've been to law school and saw people around me laughing at deaths that happened in the cases we were studying so I'm not completely surprised.

@joymattson8549

2 жыл бұрын

so comforting to know...

Dr. Grande, You are such a delight to watch and I realize some of the subject matter is unsettling. However, you have excellent presentation and delivery skills. Your interjected humor/wit is priceless. I bet you are great fun around a campfire with your friends and family, simply telling everyday stories unrelated to your business. Keep up your excellent work. I have learned so much.

Congratulations on the Sponsor!

Could you please cover the missing person case of Elaine Park, she went missing in 2017, she was last seen with her boyfriend, he comes from a wealthy family and has not been cooperative, there’s been little coverage on this case. Thank you. 🙏 Edited for typos, I may have missed a few 🤷🏻‍♀️

This story reminds me to never ever get into a relationship with a borderline girl again. Stay bpd free people.

Such a terribly sad & maddening case, thank you for covering it.

I can listen to Dr Grande for long periods. Very soothing voice 💯 even advertising