This is probably the best guide for beginners like me. Not overly complicated and extremely informative. Glory, to mankind!

@wolf2k143

Жыл бұрын

@Citizen_Kate she knows more, and she has better builds than this

@mariemonroe553

Жыл бұрын

@@wolf2k143 Ask her where she learned AX

@wolf2k143

Жыл бұрын

@@mariemonroe553 own research, trial and error, coriolis simulation, common sense, intelligence, sufficient time and determination. I have a Krait Mk2 AX build better than this Alliance Chieftain "Meta". At the end is also skill based combat.

@mariemonroe553

Жыл бұрын

@@wolf2k143 Research done in AXI yes you're right. I wish you well in your fights commander we need good AX pilots. Just a small side note - to this day there hasn't been a ship that has achieved as much as a chieftain I hope you try it some day and see how fun it is

@wolf2k143

Жыл бұрын

@@mariemonroe553 the damage output is not enough for me, krait can achieve more. I did more in my krait than others in chieftan, for me, chieftan is in second place after krait as overall ax combat.

great guide, very informative for those new to AX. With that being said, I will continue to ignore AXI and continue face tanking in my shieldless vette and laughing at the pitiful bugs as they desperately try to strip my armor

@BasedMan

7 ай бұрын

Considering getting back to Elite and turning my lightly engineered explorer anaconda to a bug (and pirate) destroyer Armour is gonna be paramount, and at least some AX railguns and flak cannons Wonder if just filling all the slots with cannon or minigun turrets would work, talk about dakka And with heavy armour and hull/armour reinforcements, it would be near undestructible save for caustic damage so I might as well ram the goid No shields? No problem, silent run to burn off the caustic goop, while unloading broadsides into the damned bug Swarm? Eat flak, or just ram them with a 400ton ship Might not be meta, but I dont want to even touch engineers again, aside from easy mods, and you BET cosplaying as a imperium of man WH40K cruiser or a ww2 era battleship is a LOT of fun

This is a really comprehensive, well-made and informative video for AX combat. Well made

Great job all, this is awesome! o7

Great job! For the PD, new players should note that using weapon focused engineering is also a strong choice that works with most medium/big ships.

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

Well… not really. I mean it’s not BAD but it cripples you ability to boost and is terrible for shielded (large) builds. So, no. Go charge enhanced (which has HIGHER wep recharge rate than even weapon focused!).

@FlecheDeFer

Жыл бұрын

@@Astyrrean Oh of course, but I'm talking about specific builds. No shield, large distro draw. Frequent boost is not needed depending on your ship except to boost away and having more capacity means less heat spikes. So yes, high charge is better in most situations, but AX fight is the only occasion where WEP can be used. I don't say it is better, just another option that can be very good. I use WEP charge on my main AX-Chally, and I prefer it to high-charge. And actually I saw that on this very channel one of your top guys uses it too.

What an awesome video. Brilliantly edited and the mix of Commander’s voice overs is superb! Mankind comes together to beat the Thargoids! Next challenge on Planet Earth: Stop killing each other!

Great timing! Just finished my Krait. I'm coming for them now too! Thanks much.

Thanks for making this - very useful for those starting out in AX combat. Just wish it was there a few weeks ago when I felt lost and overwhelmed. But even so - I still managed to get some good tips and lessons out of this video. Thanks again.

Great clip, gives a very good overview to get into AX-Combat! Great work, Fellas! o7

although this video is a year old, im glad i found it, exactly what i needed and straight to the point!

this is a great video, thank you for taking the time to make it!

A superb guide - well done guys.

Good stuff. Really significant point, perhaps needing more emphasis: in the cold orbit, you are getting the Goid to orbit you. Not vise versa. This is the first time I’ve heard this. Really important! Thanks for the super video.

Very well done. Really lets you know what you are getting into.

Great guide. Looking forward to getting into the AX part of the game.

Nice work for those who didn't care to visit AXI site already. As they say, picture is worth a thousand words, so thumbs up.

Great video! Would love to see another that covers the new planet and station based fighting and how it changes the tactics.

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

All those are, essentially, easier takes on solo combat. In a planetary setting goids do not deploy swarms - so flak doesn't apply. In a station setting, you can repair and rearm, making everything easier... not much else to add!

Excellent video! Well made guys.

I been on and off this game for a few years ive never got to fight any of these things. I think ima try.

Fantastic video. I have not had any experience in AX combat, but I will use this guide to have a crack. Thanks guys!

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

Have fun!

Wonderful guide, thank you so much!

I’m doing my part

@GeneralKammy

Жыл бұрын

underrated comment anyone who doesn’t get this joke is uncultured

@orodruined4526

Жыл бұрын

@@GeneralKammy It is part cultural reference, part fact - I did do my part. 😊

@stewie7

Жыл бұрын

@@GeneralKammy explain the joke please

@GeneralKammy

Жыл бұрын

@@stewie7 It’s an old movie reference to the film “Starship troopers” basically it’s a space film about humanity fighting some alien species which I think thargoids are loosely based on. In one of the propaganda adverts inside the film, there’s a young person who says “I’m doing my part!!!” And that’s basically where the joke comes from

Well Done! Excellent Guide!

Very clear summary of AX. Good video.

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Muquuu! And if ever would want to translate the subtitles into Japanese, let me know and I will gladly add them.

Good to see only the meta chief being recommended hehe Making it as clear as possible to what is better will help people avoid the funny boost needing ships and make their journey (and orbits) much smoother

@samplehandle

Жыл бұрын

lurb alert

@nickfizzle

Жыл бұрын

@@samplehandle that's lurb (LURB) to you

@aegis1razor353

Жыл бұрын

Krait slander smh (but yeah, the Chief is probably best to start with initially)

@SGTcz90cz

Жыл бұрын

Lurb (LURB) of LURB squadron (LURB) alert. Krait is awesome. Lots of dakka. But Chief is easier to learn. Lesson being, use Chief, then maybe Krait.

@captainlurb

Жыл бұрын

@@SGTcz90cz i love the krait and would never leave it, but damn i wish i did the chief first

Happy to have been able to contribute o7

Just started playing, still have no idea what the hell is anti-xeno weapons and how to obtain it, great guide

I know the Gausses are considered the best, but I'm gonna stick to my plasmas. Though this is still a good guide to get into things.

very good video ! love it ! ED on youtube needs more videos of this kind, very presice and detailed. could you do another one about the thargoid scouts for new pilots ? as they are easier targets, thargoid scouts could constitute a good introduction to ax combat

@ChrisZirker

Жыл бұрын

As a new AX pilot myself, I don't know that a guide for scouts is necessary... you can just shoot them with an AX multi-cannon and turn on silent running if you need to get rid of some caustic funk. I'm sure there's more nuance than that, but they really aren't much of an issue.

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

I would agree; essentially, there's four variants: Marauders (your "standard" version), Regenators (green - "heal" other scounts), Berserkers (red - hits harder and can fire caustics), and Inciters (pink - buffs other variants). All have 75% resistance to human weapons (interceptors, in contrast, have 99%), so while AX weapons are far more effective on scouts as well, human weapons are not completely useless either. They also use heat-based tracking so staying cold makes them miss most of their shots. There's different opinions on target prioritization; personally, I always go for Regenetors first, then just shoot what comes into my crosshairs. But in reality, the vast majority of the time I just ignore scouts; I'll only start shooting if I have no choice e.g., need to advance and AXCZ and there are no interceptors left. Waste of ammo otherwise in my humble opinion.

FANTASTIC JOB GUYS!!!

Great work Commanders!!

well done guys. thanks!

Amazing info!

I've noted at some points that Caustic effect is usually removed at or around 120-130% heat, but that may vary as I've only noticed it on the Python. Also, if you're part of a wing, Xeno Scanner data is shared over Datalink, allowing you to recieve this data even if you don't have a Xeno Scanner yourself.

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

Thing is caustic damage actually has “stacks” with more stacks being applied by eg a Hydra caustic missile versus a Cyclops one. Since actual stacks are never displayed in-game, it’s hard to tell when they are actually burning off.

@NodokaHanamura

Жыл бұрын

@@Astyrrean Interesting, would explain why sometimes even at 120+ it'd still be caustic.

Very Nice!

thanks, awesome piece of work, and just what the doctor ordered. o7!

Nice work, very clear instructions o7

Glory, to Mankind. The Ducc protects.

absolutely like the guide, kudos to such a great teamwork from everyone o7 - Cmdr Hannibal07 -

awesome guide! Decent work guys! Glory to mankind! o7

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I only just recently came back for the new thargoid stuff and started using this build again. It worked pretty fine until I encountered 3 glaive interdictions in a row... right now I'm experimenting with the same build but with 2 class 3 gimballed multis just incase the same thing happens. Hunters are scary

I just bought anaconda, equipped it with guardian shard cannons. Made some additional modifications so I wouldn't fall apart and just glued myself to the back of the thargoid and shoot. Worked alright but caustic damage is a bit of a problem. Took about 50% of my hull integrity. I managed to kill it tho. Probably the fastest way to kill a thargoid solo. I dunno it was my first kill and I'm looking forward to going to the spire maybe with a team.

Nice guide, think you talked me out of it, but maybe in a future where I have more time

This is good - not sure I can do it, kinda leads me back to sticking with scouts. I watched a cold orbit video before and noted no swarm but didn't know if that was a variant or something - didn't know you could (and should) actually destroy the swarm! Are the sirius heatsinks available for all or was that some community goal reward - if latter, I'd suggest mentioning it. Probably also worth saying why they're preferred (I've never heard of them till this video) Does the cold orbit technique work with the invasion around starports? I've been hit by the shutdown field a few times and no idea where it came from (once or twice I was only doing rescue missions). Would it be a case of stick to threat 5 source signals until you know what you're doing, and _then_ go to starports? Or are starports easier because you have NPC help? Is there some modified technique to apply with the starport attacks and NPC war response?

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

Those are a lot of good questions. Come join our discord and ask in #recruit_academy. You'll find the answers you seek!

Great tutorial, let's save humanity in our galaxy

Awesome work CMDR‘s. Very informativ and interesting. Thx’s for that. As a complete FA-Off noob i could imagine the orbiting is VERY hard to learn. Especially because i prefer Hotas to control my ships. Is there even a single CMDR using Hotas with FA-Off? I‘ve heard KB/Mouse is the way to go.

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

Yes, plenty of CMDRs use FA Off and HOTAS. Control scheme is really a personal preference! Look at the linked (in description) guide to learn FA Off, believe it's best out there.

@jurl2700

Жыл бұрын

Hello! I use a HOTAS and have gotten to the point of soloing Hydras using one. Do not feel limited because of your hotas as it can do incredible things with some practice!

@dumpster556

Жыл бұрын

@@jurl2700, @Astyrrean: Thx‘s for the answer. That makes hope and sounds promising. I‘ll give it a try. Glory to mankind CMDR‘S.

Nice great vid, very informative! Love the input from various individuals. But who at AXI requested Fdev to not make the god shard available anymore after the initial CG? :)

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

Oh we never requested it. In fact, we were salty about it - either need it outright, or make it available to all, was the stance.

Exellent guide!

the reward was decreased cyclops: 6.5m basi: 20m medusa: 34m hydra: 50m enrage timer is if thargoid's heart was not destroyed for a set amount of time after the enrage timer is reached, the swarm will go kamikaze mode the thargoid will also regenerate the swarm instantly.

This video is awesome, however, I developed my own AX combat style using my Krait MKII and I find it much easier than cold orbiting 👍🏻 I still want to build the meta Chieftain one day though, but it will take me much longer than it took to build my Krait, which I already managed to defeat a Basilisk with

returning elite player, wanted to dabble in some xeno combat since its the current thing, but you had me until the engineering and guardian grind. nah man, i cant go back to that.

@XenoZera

11 ай бұрын

edmaterials makes the grind pretty easy, compared to the past

@vtubersubs3803

4 ай бұрын

I don't understand how people think it's a grind. I just starting engineering like 2 days ago and have 90% of them unlocked and maxed already. Guardian stuff is even easier

@arch_..

3 ай бұрын

@@vtubersubs3803 because it actually is a grind. You have to repeat the same process over and over to get the required materials you need, no matter in what way you choose to gather your materials you'll need to repeat that process a dozen - or more - times. That doesn't mean it's hard/difficult to do, in fact compared to other "MMO's" the grind in elite is fairly easy, tedious and repetitive but easy.

@mobiuscoreindustries

3 ай бұрын

​@arch_.. yeah it really is the core issue: its soul crushingly dull. Repeated activity can still be good if it is engaging to do. But material grinding is just RNG, going from point to point, and having to constantly close and reconnect to a session JUST to get the bare minium. This is basement tier engagement. Why the fuck do I need to do idle farming on a planet for 4 straight days to get stuff nessesary to fight the goids?

I want to join the Anti Xeno initiative but first I need to unlock the rest of my engineers and get better at combat and flying without Flight Assist. I don't want to put my potential squadmates at risk.

Can point defense shoot down caustic missles like regular missles? Or is that going to be future AX module, like 'AX Point Defense'?

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

Our tests with regular PD have not shown any ability of point defense to shoot down caustic missiles unfortunately. We’ll do also a few tests with the CG PD (if we can get a hold of it) although we don’t think it would make much of a difference - caustic missiles fly in an erratic pattern; PD simply misses them.

Okay, now that I’ve got an AX ship build I need to pull the trigger and fight a thargoid. 😢

@Astyrrean

10 ай бұрын

Good luck!

Have a question: Do enhaced (or Azimut enhaced) AX multi-cannons are worth to use instead of Gauss? A nd thanks a lot for so great explained in details guideline

@Astyrrean

5 ай бұрын

They are only worth using in the presence of anti-guardian fields, like in systems with Titans present. Anywhere else, gauss is superior.

@olegmakogon7447

5 ай бұрын

@@Astyrrean Thanks

Hello, is this manual still viable? I am referring to the issue of titans, needles and those latest events with the targoids. Great video

@Astyrrean

Ай бұрын

Yes it is still viable for solo and AXCZ combat. For Titan combat, we have other more recent videos.

Epic

OUTSTUCKINFANDING VIDEO! Thank you for all of this crucial information. I'll begin practicing immediately

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

Welcome to the end game of Elite:Dangerous!

So I know only AX or Guardian weapons will damage/destroy the hearts, but are they the only way to exert the hearts too? Regular weapons don’t do it?

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

That’s right. You need AX damage to exert the hearts too. Regular damage is only good to accelerate shield decay (which decays on its own anyway.)

Well, I think the time for cleaning the dust off my Anaconda, getting some credits for a Chieftain, and acquring those Engineering Materials has come. No time to sleep, we have to defend the humanity's own existence. o7, CMDRs

What about using enhaced AX multi or guardian PAC loadout? Viable alternatives to rails?

@Astyrrean

4 ай бұрын

Guardian (modified) plasma chargers are very good weapons. Easiest to exert hearts with, a bit harder to snipe hearts with. (Large, Gimballed, Enhanced) AXMCs are great against weaker interceptors but struggle against harder ones.

@bystandah9626

3 ай бұрын

@@Astyrrean AXMCs, in my experience, only seem to be effective against Cyclops interceptors. i couldn't make a dent in the Basilisk with them at all.

@Astyrrean

3 ай бұрын

@@bystandah9626 kzread.info/dash/bejne/eap8lNCBkrrWiZs.html 🙂

Any training for shard cannons with larger/slower ships?

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

We have a large ships guide which pre-dates the new shard cannons but is otherwise still extremely relevant; here: wiki.antixenoinitiative.com/en/large-ship-guide

I play on Xbox and I'm stuck on horizons, is everything in this loadout in horizons or is some stuff odyssey exclusive?

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

None of this content from the Academy video is Odyssey specific.

Glory, to Mankind!

Is there an alternative for fitting in a guardian FSD booster?

@Astyrrean

6 ай бұрын

I mean combat ships aren’t really meant to jump around - that’s what carriers and ship transfers are for. That being said, the meta is there for you to know about, you can always customize things to your heart’s content, just armed with information as to what works and why!

How do you aquire a detailed scan of a thargoid now that they are instantly hostile with the new war?

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

Only way is to get quite good at hugging them - or bring a friend (detailed scans are shared across the wing)

May not get answered, but should everything be engineered to max possible? highest tier, max generation?

@Astyrrean

10 ай бұрын

Answered in the video in fact. There’s a “fully engineered” and a “G3 version” linked in the video description.

How bad of an idea is it to make a chieftain with mix of axi cannons and gauss with the new stabilizers?

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

You get the worst of both worlds ... I mean it's usable; it's just that it isn't very good

The biggest thing you didn't mention is how powerful the phasing damage from the swarm is. The thargoid itself will only do the standard 10% through your shields, which is no big deal. The Swarm, though, does like 100% of its damage through the shield, and is a MASSIVE deal, and probably the biggest reason why shields are a bad choice.

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

Come to our discord and type "/shields" ;) You'll get the full picture!

I have a question how do you get to the thargoids with so little fuel

@Astyrrean

9 ай бұрын

What do you mean "so little fuel"?

Can gimbal gauss cannons be used or is fixed mandatory?

@Astyrrean

10 ай бұрын

Alas, gauss cannons, much like railguns, are only fixed. There is no such thing as gimballed gauss cannons.

@michal_1725

10 ай бұрын

The secret technique is to use Turreted Gauss Cannons, obviously xD

Good Video! Now I know: I won´t go into Battle with them and maybe not going on with this game at all... I just wanted some exploring and trading. Now there is not only pirates, but space MASTERENEMIES that take like hours to fight and to fight them, you need Guradiantech and so on.. Naw thanks.

Where are you found the one-to-one duel?! There are many Scouts near the Thargoid conflict zones and when you'll try to repair the ship, some Scout or another Interceptor will stop your repair. Better use more hull reinforcement packages and repair ship on the nearest stations(IMHO).

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

One on one duels can be found in many Non Human Signal Sources (NHSS) and at select Distress Call points of interest (for example, the one in HR1185).

Would putting on an a class life support really be that bad with the extra time?

@jurl2700

Жыл бұрын

It may come down to personal preference, if you want you could run A rated with lightweight if you wish to get that extra time.

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

It is definitively not “that bad”. Out of all build choices, this one is very minor. It is more of an indicator that you are unfamiliar with synthesis. Oxygen synthesis (to restock life support) is dirt cheap in terms of materials. Try it!

Great video. I was intercepted by the Basilisk ( I think) It shot cannons at me and missed, I feel I did a pretty good job aith the anti Thargoid equipment,hardpoints & UM. I didn't know what was happening at first because I had just grabbed something from a non human treat level 3 Signal source. I saw it was started the corrosion of my cargo rack and hatch. So I jumpped back to the system I had just come from to try and quickly get to a port and thats ahen I was pulled out of hyperspace. I thought it aas from the artifacts corrosion but boy I was wrong. The huge ship had shut me down and sxanned me or Im guessing thats what it did by the noise it made and the flash of light. When my power returned I turned around to look at it and I wanted to scan it witth my xeno scanner but instead I had used my field neutralizer and its beautiful color changed to red fallowed by another loud sound. I knew what was coming so I opened fire on it and had a ten min battle endib in me buying my ship back. I didn't know about theie hearts or these effective ways and strategies I was just looking for my own but I'm glad I went on and found this video. Unfortunately Im using the diamondback scout for this task. So I think I need a different ship. For this type of combat. I M currently looking for the old Guardian locations. And Im on console so its a lot different as far as beig able to explore on foot. Again thanks for the lessons.

Rewards are updated?

@Astyrrean

Ай бұрын

Funnily yes. FDEV reduced the rewards before bringing them back recently to where they were after their most substantial 4x buff. So the rewards shown in this video are current for all except for the Orthrus - the latter was nerfed into the ground (from 40m to 15m).

can i use shard cannon to

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

The medium fixed *modified* guardian shard cannons. All other shards are not that great.

@McDecay

Жыл бұрын

@@Astyrrean oh welp than i need to fly back to a Guardian structuur haha

I get killed by thargoids jeezz, i dont even know what is that at first, i just doing some exploration, when sudenly i get swarm but so many little thing that i dont even know what, and then died instantly :( The worst thing is i have so many planet scaned and all lost in an instant☹

@Astyrrean

2 ай бұрын

Learn to fight back and join the war effort!

Follow the meta to learn AX combat, but don't be tied to it, try new things as soon as you feel comfortable.

AMAZING tutorial! ← Comment for algorithm + 👍 'd #OldManPaxus Rating: ☆☆☆☆☆

Great - but couldn’t understand a word the second guy said

@theutheone

2 ай бұрын

It's the opposite for me. That guy so the only clear voice. Unfortunately the main guy's accent is too thick for me... Nothing he can do about it though, I just can't hear in general.

You guys need a “content” academy for FDev. Grind your life away to shoot Flowers on rails. Lol. Great video. o7

Hasn't the current situation neutered guardian gear?

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

Only in Maelstrom systems; They work fine everywhere else

They gotta increase the range of that xeno scanner... running turreted MCs is annoying as hell when fighting interceptors, constantly switching between Target Only and Forward Fire. Buff the Xeno Scanners range!!!

@SGTcz90cz

Жыл бұрын

I agree. EAXMC gimbals absolutely shred Cyclopses (assuming range is kept and all that) but they need a scan to do anything to hearts. Great weapons, just impractical right now. Especially for AXCZs.

@bugsy3209

Жыл бұрын

1) use fixed if you are gonna use mc 2) just dont use MC, go get your gauss and use the scouts as target practice, killing scouts aren't nearly as useful as killing the actual interceptors. 3) A good interceptor killer=a good scout killer, a good scout killer =/= a good interceptor killer.

it seems a little troublesome

This is a great guide, however you only need 120-125% heat to remove caustic damage, you don't want new players getting it up to 300 and needlessly be damaging modules.

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

It's a bit of a tradeoff. What is better - spending quite a bit of time at 125% heat, or spending less than a second at 300%? In the end, either works really.

@Zeralium

Жыл бұрын

@@Astyrrean I've always gotten caustic damage to remove immediately once I get to the 120-125 range, you save a heatsink and limit module damage.

@Zeralium

Жыл бұрын

@@Astyrrean I'm definitely a beginner at bug hunting so maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see much reason to get to 300 based on my experience constantly getting caustic cause I keep running into clouds lol

@qqrz9975

Жыл бұрын

@@Zeralium caustic damage is a stacked effect, if you graze a caustic death cloud or get hit by a scout's missile, you'll be fine, but missile for a hydra for instance will take a long time at 125% to fully get rid of, so just be aware of that

@SGTcz90cz

Жыл бұрын

My personal way to get rid of (scout) caustics is to fire the LRTV into the black while silent running. It'll heat you up like nobody's business, and is relatively quick to respond with the moment you burn off. Mileage may vary, I can usually avoid ceptor caustics, and well, just basically do what you prefer on this one.

Does this count for legacy

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@willieschick7315

Жыл бұрын

@@Astyrrean just getting the hang of regular pve combat, but I’ve always wanted to take okie of them down, but yeah thanks again cmdr o7

i got gifted billions for killed an angry bug 10/10 would join this community

More than 1000h played and I didn t kill one, I ve tried

PLEASE SOMEONE, hello, hum, why is it so important to NOT use turreted mount flak launcher? I need explaination as i really want to use the pink festive flak launcher... Is it MANDATORY to use fixed flak??

@Astyrrean

8 ай бұрын

Festive Flak does 1% of the damage of the usual flak, so you wouldn’t want to use it anyway in combat.

This is a great video. My biggest critique is that you guys can't figure out who your audience is. On one hand, there's comments like "these are called lateral thrusters which move your ship left and right" but then there's 5 minutes of "here is the maximally engineered ship that you absolutely have to have to be able to enter this combat situation." So...am I a new player trying to figure this out from scratch, or am I a seasoned commander who has had the time and experience acquired after grinding out maximal engineering on a dozen modules with a garage full of guardian technology?

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

This video is targeted at CMDRs who are either new to AX, or are considering trying their hand at it. As part of the conversation, an important point to land is: "This is endgame content, you'll need an endgame ship to handle it." Given the context, we're not really talking to CMDRs who are still trying to figure out how to get out of the mail slot. Either way, agree that finding the right "tone" is an art. We can always do better!

@ChrisZirker

Жыл бұрын

@@Astyrrean That is totally fair! Thanks again for your phenomenal work, I learned an enormous amount from this video. The production is outstanding. Glory to mankind!

i got absulatie destoryed

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

We all did at the beginning. Keep trying, keep learning, and you will succeed!

@McDecay

Жыл бұрын

@@Astyrrean but i copied everything on the video and my ship just died in like 15 sec

@Astyrrean

Жыл бұрын

@@McDecay If you're using heatsinks and moving you won't get hit. If you died in 15 seconds, either you were not using heatsinks, or you were not moving :)

Thanks for the video and thanks for the work and effort! Keep up the good work :) That being said, I have some mixed feelings about this. I have been playing Elite actively only for a couple of months now and I agree on unlocking the guardian hull reinforcements, guardian module protections and the engineers described. However the cold-orbiting and going after non-human signal sources is not for beginners. That is the end-end game in fighting thargoids. If you are a beginner, like me, you should start fighting Thargoid interceptors at planetary bases under attack. At these bases you are near the planet surface and basically cannot always cold-orbit effectively. The reasons why a beginner should start at planetary bases: - The interceptors at planetary bases do not use Thargon interceptor swarms for their protection. This means you have time to learn the other ins and outs of the interceptors before engaging with the swarms. The swarms make the encounters much harder. - You have multiple landing platforms at the base where you can heal and rearm your ship. You don't need to worry about hogging the only landing pad like at space stations from other fellow fighters. - You can modify your ship without the flak launcher, repair limpets, cargo rack, AFMU and make the ship a lot more durable with additional hull reinforcements etc. This makes the encounters more forgiving for beginners. The bases also send repair limpets for your aid. - As a beginner, the Gauss cannons are not necessarily the easiest weapons to start. You can more easily test other weapons, especially pre-engineered shard cannons and plasma chargers, against the interceptors to find your preferred weapons. In my opinion the easiest beginner weapons for interceptor hunting are pre-engineered shard cannons as they kill the hearts most effectively. With pre-engineered plasma chargers you can more easily control the weapon heat and don't necessarily need heat sinks at all. Plasma chargers are also good practice for gauss cannons later on. This war has changed the rules of fighting and the Thargoid encounters. We must evolve with the changes. You don't necessarily need anymore to be able to cold orbit to get into fighting with interceptors. Just take a couple of friends with you and head for a planetary base under attack to get started :) As we need Anti-Xeno pilots of all degrees in the fight, I wanted to tell my personal experiences in the matter. Hope this helps!

@nickfizzle

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The NHSS's are the best way to get better at fighting thargoids. Learning in that space you can get the basics down and transfer it to the planetary bases much easier than learning at a planetary base (where you're missing mechanics) and transferring to nhss's.

@qqrz9975

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it's ok to distinguish casuals and beginners and the way i see it this is more for those who want to go further beyond. these skills translate perfectly into what is going on now and solo combat is the simplest way to hone in on specific skill. it's ok to want to get into the fight as soon as possible but we all can take the time aside to improve and learn, if that's what you find fun, because i for one love trying to get better. i started learning this way and all of that i learned translated to what i do now mostly, i fly a krait mk2 with no flak; it has 4 modified shards and a beam which i use in AXCZs. if i would have started out this way instead of the meta chieftain i probably wouldn't have made it as far as i have and gotten so much enjoyment from pushing my limit.

@Mgram

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I agree there are many ways to begin AX combat, the way we teach in the AXI is designed with the long-term in mind, we understand that if you ever plan to hunt solo hydras, you will benefit far more from beginning with the skills we discuss here. We could teach you how to gib goids with flak, but those skills are far less transferable down the road.

@elenadarkov8511

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AxCZs and Wingfights wont teach you much about Soloing Interceptors or how you have to behave when the Goid is locked on you. You can die fast in the right moment if you dont orbit, while the Ceptor is facing you. That being said i think its still good to have the basics

tried to go "help" with my crait mk2 and got erased lol may not be for me then ! lol

@Astyrrean

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Everyone gets erased the first few times. Then it’s up to you - if you’re up to learn and keep trying, this may be well for you still. If you find it too hard and would rather do something else, then that’s totally fine too. It’s a game, you should play it how it’s fun for you.

You can create the subtitles in French please

@Astyrrean

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We welcome offers to help translate subtitles to other languages! If you know anyone who would be willing to help, do send them our way.

Excuse my ignorance, but I thought Guardian Tech had been rendered useless?

@Astyrrean

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Only in certain systems. In much rest of the galaxy they work just fine.

Oh boy, can't wait to fight the Thargoids "Your ship needs to be fully engineered" And just like that you've lost me. I don't have the time to treat this game as a second 8hr job and spend months grinding, I actually have a life and job outside of this game.

@Astyrrean

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We recommend a “low engineering build” that makes it more accessible. But yeah, this is endgame content, you’re not going to be killing Hydras in a stock sidewinder …

@SgtAwesome97

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@@Astyrrean There's endgame content, and then there's what Elite does. When someone has to spend literal months just to do one thing in the game, that's just too much. As I said, I and many others like me, don't have the time to spend 8 hours a day in front of a computer screen, spending months trying to do a single thing in the game, because we have our own actual lives and jobs outside of a game. It's unfortunate being forcibly excluded from the big and current goings on in a game, simply because I have a life outside of a computer. Even Destiny 2 and Warframes grind isn't as bad as this.

@purplepason

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@@SgtAwesome97 This is just pure lie, because I got entered into Thargoid combat in less than 24 hours with a low engineering build. I literally didn't even engineer anything but my FSD, and that's entirely optional. You haven't done enough research. You don't know what you're talking about. I am personally capable of fighting in my unengineered/FSD engineered Chieftan Interceptors, and fight with my shards or my Gauss cannons. Please instead of complaining about something you want to do, you actually put the effort into trying to do it. Because you're flat out lying to anyone reading this comment.

@SgtAwesome97

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@purplepason Yeah, keywords here being "I am personally." I am not you, and tbf unless you're some godlike combat pilot, I sincerely doubt you're fighting interceptors in an unengineered Chieftan, let alone actually winning said fights.

@purplepason

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@@SgtAwesome97 Which again, proves you wrong. You're actually so ignorant it hurts. I am fighting unengineered in a Chieftan. You can deny it all you want, but you have people (Me) and in other locations proving, and telling you that your reasoning is bullshit. So face it, you don't want to do Thargoid combat. You want to moan and complain. You don't want to actually get engaged in any of this content easily like you're saying, you just wanna moan. You're a whiny hater who has nothing of substance to back it up when its literally possible to go low engineering and get into the Thargoid fight. You're a joke and not responded to. Lmao

Not sure about the Build, No fuel scoop with Thargoids all over the Bubble. 5D Limpet repair? You can only have one working at a time. I've made the Build not having to make many changes. I did go to the Krait 2 because I was sick of the Canopy breaking all the time on the Chieftan.

@Astyrrean

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Hi there. Few thoughts: A) If your chief canopy was breaking, chances are you were using fewer than 3 module reinforcement packages. With 3 MRPs, Chief canopy is VERY sturdy. B) 5D limpet controller is not for the number of limpets, but for the repair amount. A 5D repairs 310hp per limpet, versus only 60hp of a 1D, so you get five times the value out of your limpets. A 5D also repairs also 5 times faster, which matters a lot in a fight where you are rushing to avoid an enrage timer. C) Fuel scoops are considered utilities; they don’t help you in combat. What is more typical for combat builds is to rather transfer your ship to your intended theatre of operations, and refuel as needed at local stations and carriers. Specialized combat builds suffer a lot if you try to make them “multi-purpose”. You can choose to if you want of course, but the purpose of a meta discussion is to recommend what is optimal for a given purpose (in this case, combat); then it’s totally fine for people to deviate from it for their own intents, purposes, and preferences.

Hallowed be the Far God..!

Can anybody understand what the second guy is saying jeez lewis