Cmon guys. Drop some respect on Ryan Reynolds and The Rock. They just play themselves in every movie.

@lewis3853

Жыл бұрын

And they both transferred over to the comic book genre to really make money. 😊. Case and point.

@bubness1587

Жыл бұрын

@@lewis3853 that’s not case and point at all? The point was people got to see franchises and not actors I.e they don’t care so much about what the actor is doing outside of that franchise it just so happens those franchises are mainly comic related. This is not the case for Ryan Reynolds or the rock, when they do a movie different from their franchise (non dead pool movie for example) he still gets people watching it for the actor

@lewis3853

Жыл бұрын

@@bubness1587 sound good.

@SchardtCinematic

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget Jeff Goldblum. Just plays himself in every film.

@spokentruth5909

Жыл бұрын

Black Adam did bad

Robert Downey still made Sherlock Holmes a hit. Even made "discombobulate" a meme.

@arifurr

Жыл бұрын

That was when MCU was new.

@kanpekiken2481

Жыл бұрын

It wasn’t that big of a hit

@James-kj9hw

Жыл бұрын

That was before mcu

@I.Odnamra

Жыл бұрын

​@@James-kj9hw it wasn't before, it was during. The MCU already had a roadmap for the next 10 years in 2009.

@SgtD85

Жыл бұрын

You never go full....

There’s plenty of good movie stars, but you can’t expect just an actors name to draw a crowd. The writing and everything else needs to be good too. Leo picks good movies to be a part of.

@thomasffrench3639

Жыл бұрын

Yep because you can tell a movie is badly written without having seen it

@scottnunnemaker5209

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasffrench3639 generally, yes, mostly based on who is involved and what they have made before. Or, like the new Star Wars trilogy, you can tell from trailers and cast interviews. And as for actors, they have even more information than the general public to make their decision.

@jonathanjoestar3923

Жыл бұрын

The last thing you said is proof

@LoriCiani

Жыл бұрын

I remember a film called Revolution with Al Pacino in it. Laden with a cast with calibre and a huge budget. I was an usherete at the time. First day, performances would begin with a full auditorium. But, as the weighty film played, people began to walk out. As each performance ended we would have to wake up some of the remaining members of the audience and inform them that the film had ended. As word of mouth got round the audience numbers got less and less each time. We still had to do the wake up at the end because of those who wouldn't or couldn't believe that something that sounded so right theoretically could turn out so wrong. No internet in those days. This film and the film Absolute Beginners helped to sink Merchant Ivory.

@WrangleMcDangle

Жыл бұрын

brad pitt proved this in bullet train

The Rock is a movie star. Every movie he's in is "a rock movie".

@ThatPig8

Жыл бұрын

No it’s a nondescript jungle movie

“Dipshits on tiktok like me “ - Charles peralo 💀💀

@hellopeople1294

Жыл бұрын

Yes darling

@erenjaeger1738

Жыл бұрын

Sigma asf

@poisonvoid4352

Жыл бұрын

@@erenjaeger1738 Sigma from overwatch?

@walltermite3489

Жыл бұрын

@@poisonvoid4352 no sigma from the Greek alphabet

@OFNDKing

Жыл бұрын

@@walltermite3489 no sigma balls

Not relying on a big name to draw a crowd, but rather the content of the film alone seems like a good pivot.

@lewis3853

Жыл бұрын

Mostly. But when the actor nails roles it’s the draw of you being almost assured you’ll like it because they’re in it. They pick good scripts.

@thomasffrench3639

Жыл бұрын

It is, but it’s also not. TV actors run into a problem where they are only known for one role and can’t move on from that role. Leonard Nimoy is probably the biggest example. This affects actors for these films as well

@dflaming1371

Жыл бұрын

I'm honestly glad the moviestar era is over, there are some actors you regularly go to see, but success is now easier to access and harder to attain. You need a good story and execution, and all the money doesn't have to be dependent on one guy, and opportunities for individuals flourish

@BlackShogun

Жыл бұрын

@@Elamado97 Idk about “most” but phases 4 & 5 have seemed more concerned with shoehorning cameos and setting up spin-offs than telling a cohesive or compelling story. The are some outliers though.

@mr.griffe9202

Жыл бұрын

​@@dflaming1371It's still dependent on an Ip created by "some guy". Most of these movies are recycling content created by a few people.

When adapting a comic book character on screen, the character’s fame usually predates the actor playing it, so it’s hard for those kind of movies to create “movie stars”

Adam Driver? Incredibly successful actor, even after Star Wars. I’d watch that man in anything 😂🤷🏻‍♀️

You mean to tell me that people go to see adaptations of media for the characters they already love and not the actors portraying them? Color me shocked…

@tommymoodie2157

Жыл бұрын

Not sure if that's a joke or not. But in case it isn't. The point is that the after doing super hero films and becoming a success. Fans only see the actor as one character. This can hurt you future films as people can't actually see you playing any role outside of your Most famous one. If you star in a comedy series it will be hard to see you in an action movie convincingly. If you are a super hero. Ppl are just gonna think it's weird to see this super hero in a drama film. Also as an actor it's gonna b annoying since you won't be recognized as you but only as the guy who played said super hero if you can get roles that make you similarly popular or half as popular. It's the reason that Leonard Di Caprio refuses to take super hero roles because he doesn't want to be type casted.

@aliciadupuy9228

Жыл бұрын

​@@tommymoodie2157 theese days tho, i think the bigger problem is that Hollywood has stopped trying to entertain us and has started trying to stuff a message down our throats. So ppl wouldnt care to see things just for an actor or director who insults over half the audience from one angle or another.

@bobfg3130

Жыл бұрын

​@@tommymoodie2157 Depends on the promotion. If you do a proper job promoting the movie it can be done.

@_shynanigans7859

Жыл бұрын

@@aliciadupuy9228 all movies have a message, and you can be entertained while receiving a message. The fact that people get upset about that just proves that people just like to be willingly ignorant and most likely aren’t good ppl 🤷🏾‍♂️

@ArlloX

Жыл бұрын

​@@_shynanigans7859 I think the problem is that the message is now becoming so much more important than the entertainment that the entertainment is gone and the message is becoming harsh and forced. At the same time, the presence of the message is protected from any criticism. So, for example, I can say that I think the last Charlie's Angels is a terrible film with a bad script and mediocre acting and explain why I think so, but any of my criticism will be dismissed as "sexist" because it is a film about "strong female characters."

Separating a character from the actor is not a modern problem this happens all the time whenever a franchise becomes popular. For example Jaleel White from family matters had trouble finding other roles because everyone saw him as Steve Urkle. Also if the audience sees the character and not the actor it usually means the actor either did a good job portraying said character.

@sagemaster1357

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's how I see it for Robert Downey Jr and Tom Holland's Spider-man. But Tom Holland had other roles while playing Spider man and I didn't watch them just because he was in it. If the story is interesting or the characters are unique then it'll pieck my interest.

@dexxfilm

Жыл бұрын

No not necessarily. People remember an actor for their great performances. It's because they do so well as these different characters that they are known and remembered. MCU is cookie cutter and all the characters are very similar so the characters end up being the only identifying factor rather than the actor because they are all doing the same type of thing. No actor sticks out in the MCU.

@TahniZCat2

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, people still get surprised when they hear Jaleel White was THE FIRST sonic the hedgehog before anyone else. Once you put your face in a role and excel, it's difficult to up that performance with another role

@TahniZCat2

Жыл бұрын

​@@dexxfilm I've heard this argument before and to an extent I can agree but not entirely. It's so easy to just lump everyone together when you try to dissuade someone from watching marvel movies (iron man, Dr. strange, Rocket Racoon: wise-cracking genius closed off to most others. Star Lord, ant man: criminal degenerate trying to do better. Gomorrah, Black Widow: sexy assassin chick with troubled past. Groot, hulk: the muscle of a few words. Like you genuinely have to try and make these heroes sound generic when if you really watch it, they all couldn't be more different in retrospective. The best example is the contrast from avengers (first movie) and endgame, where tony and Steve are coming at each other, thinking they have everything all figured out. Tony pegged Steve as a man out of time with nothing special to really offer, cause everything special about him came out of a bottle, when in reality his leadership skills, influence and pure hearted nature was so infectious and inspirational to so many other members, new and old. . . For crying out loud, he was ORIGINALLY the only human worthy of mjolnr (seeing the only other human is dead now, he technically still is) and lead the entire endgame war against Thanos, which ended up winning. Now on the opposite, Steve pegged Tony as a drunken degenerate who hides behind a suit of armor and wouldn't put his life on the line to save anyone but himself. Mind you Tony's original idea was to put a suit of armor around the world so everyone can be protected from the dangers unseen, but when that failed (ultron) he pushed to instead have a suit around the people closest to him, who needed it (pepper, rhodey, Peter, even bruce got to use the hulk buster suit when hulk refused to come out and fight) and in the end of all of it, he was the one that grabbed all the infinity Stones and sacrificed himself to save the entire world from Thanos, ending the war once and for all. Now I know, you most likely seen the movies and didn't like it, but the last thing (at least before phase 4 to an extent) that I would call these heroes are generic, especially with character I never touched upon, like ant man being low key a family guy that always ends up being mixed up on the wrong side of the law, when he's supposed to be a hero. starlord: a earth native that seems just as alien as any thing out of earth, yet manages somehow to sleep with any and every creature resembling a female. Wanda: a girl who just wanted to be normal, a wife, a mother, but is cursed to not ever have that because of the power she holds. Even going back to captain America and the fact that he's a Grandpa in a young man's body and it shows in basically every scene he is in, outside of "the first avenger" movie.

@TahniZCat2

Жыл бұрын

​@@dexxfilm TL;DR No, they aren't all the same. . . But you don't have to take my word for it.

I've always only remembered the characters, not the actor. Same with songs but not the artists/bands. So glad to know others share my mindset.

Its an argument that falls through once you realise everyone knows who plays the characters

Only Charles would think v-necks and pigeotto haircuts were still in fashion

@AntonioCardenasT

Жыл бұрын

the not uncle Jessie haircut is not a good look, if somebody says you look like uncle Jessie you freeze your look forever.

@Abominatrix650

Жыл бұрын

They never left

@jessediaz1293

Жыл бұрын

Pigeotto haircuts 😂🤣

@StevePerez2900

Жыл бұрын

@@AntonioCardenasT I have an uncle named Jesse

@osky529

Жыл бұрын

The hair cut is atrocious 😂 but v necks are okay I like v neck sweaters

"The next actor to be killed off in the mcu is..." ya'll 💀🤚🏻

@georgehernandez2156

Жыл бұрын

Hes is kinda old

@prathameshbhole4677

Жыл бұрын

Nope.. they need the BLM support, taking off Mackie wont be good for them

@jamesbuchananbarnesss

Жыл бұрын

Hell nah, if he's killed off then he wouldn't be the next Avengers leader, and I think we all would prefer Falcon as the new leader rather than Captain Marvel 💀💀💀

Ive said this before on a different short, but I'm happy that we're getting back to this. I want to see my favorite characters on screen, not the a lister who plays them. When I watch a movie like the original Jumaji, Robin Williams plays Alan so well that I don't see Robin anymore, I see Alan. However, when watching the Jumanji reboots, it just feels like I'm watching Kevin Hart and the Rock do the same thing they always do. It's nothing bad per say, just a nit pick I have. Idk, as an actor i believe you should be able to portray your character to the best of your ability, and part of that is dropping your ego and being okay with being synonymous with your character.

I worked door security at a swanky cocktail event in New Orleans. Mackie showed up at VIP entrance, but lady with the list didn't recognize him and turned him away. I told her "that's falcon from the Avengers" and she had me chase him down and apologize / let him in. He was cool about it, but it's experiences like this that led Mackie to believe he isn't a star.

Unless I missed an interview, Anthony's comment about the goonies and Halloween was more so about Hollywood not willing make original content.

@gd3741

Жыл бұрын

It was a bit of both.

@EchoJ

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t surprise me. This “TikTok idiot” takes stuff out of context a lot just to try proving his point

I think this really shows how the business side of movie making has changed in the last 20+ years.

@itsbeyondme5560

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@aWywardWyvern

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. This is basically a round about way of complaining that they can’t rely on “star power” anymore.

I love that characters, and not actors, are the box office draw. Characters are more pure and teach far worthy lessons than the petty arrogant actors playing them. It also implies some sort of responsibility when playing them. That's all acting is about. Playing a character, not being the character people want to see. It should have always been like this honestly.

I thought the same for zendaya as in she would only be seen as a diseny star but she is a movie star I feel that in order to be a movie star when people watch u on screen the say you by name instead if ur characters name.

@bungawowzers

Жыл бұрын

So with Robert Downy Jr. people look for iron man nor him no would ever say let's go watch Robert's new movie. People like the rock and Kevin hart have so many different types of work that you don't ever think of one thing when you say their names.

Damn never realized this truth 😂 but I would argue Tom Cruise is the last movie star ⭐️

@racager

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but dicaprio too

@batmanfodderizes1455

Жыл бұрын

Dont forget brad pitt.

@pandarasengan6709

Жыл бұрын

Johnny depp too

@jitomatada

Жыл бұрын

​@@pandarasengan6709 nah, he was washed out even before the scandal

@pandarasengan6709

Жыл бұрын

@@jitomatada I think Johnnys still great

That’s only true to a point, people wanted to see Downie junior as iron man, not just any actor.

@therealkueenfate1574

Жыл бұрын

But if you think about it he was the first person to start the MCU. So the "point" is before the MCU existed 🤔.

@kelvinb16

Жыл бұрын

Downie made iron man, but outside of iron man nobody cares what he does. It uses to be people would go see their favorite stars, now they go see their favorite characters

@funnfungusie9622

Жыл бұрын

@@kelvinb16 This basically only applies to suphero movies. There are other movies genre where this literally cannot happen.

@positiveecho326

Жыл бұрын

@@kelvinb16 People care when he plays Sherlock Holmes. Actors tend to have stints of success and stints of failure. It has happened to both Keanu and DiCaprio. Let’s not forget Downey had success before Iron Man. Iron Man was his comeback role not his break out role.

@kelvinb16

Жыл бұрын

@@positiveecho326 Sherlock Holmes is a well known character though? The point being made is people used to follow actors careers and them just being involved in a project would guarantee that people would be interested and go see the movie. That's no longer the case, audiences want to see well known characters more so than the actual actors playing them and yes a handful of actors have made certain characters their own like hugh Jackman, and Downey Jr. But it's important to note that the batman of this year was wildly successful, and it had Robert Pattinson who nobodys first choice, but still the fans supported the movie in droves because it's batman. And yes that movie was amazing, but it was the character that got people to go see it, not Pattinson.

This is such an interesting concept! I’m studying music, film and drama, and may just steal this concept and expand on it for a paper 😂

@reymondvillasenor7817

Жыл бұрын

Send me the paper please 🙏

Giancarlo Esposito said in an interview that people refer to him as 'Gus Fring' when they see him. Most fans don't know his real name, just the character in Breaking Bad that he played. It's a bit sad because these are real humans behind these roles.

@Fruitsmymainispomgranates

Жыл бұрын

Stan edgar and that guy from the meme i dont know his name the death stare guy and did i miss anything

@Daikon_Micucci

Жыл бұрын

@@Fruitsmymainispomgranates Moff Gideon?

@Fruitsmymainispomgranates

Жыл бұрын

@@Daikon_Micucci maybe

@moosey4695

Жыл бұрын

@@Fruitsmymainispomgranates it’s a character from Far Cry 6

@Fruitsmymainispomgranates

Жыл бұрын

@@moosey4695 I thought that was a video game

well, the reason why people say, “let’s watch X-Men movies” it’s because those characters have been around way longer. Both sides are right, though a lot of people nowadays cannot differentiate the actors from the character depicted on the big screen.

@cameronpittman4554

Жыл бұрын

When the actor only plays one role it gets kind of hard lol

Leonardo DiCaprio and Tom Cruise are the last movie stars

@Person99991

Жыл бұрын

What about dwayne johnson

@sean5364

Жыл бұрын

@@Person99991 yeah, but for the wrong reasons. He only makes bad movies (admittedly funny for young kids), so there’s nothing to really remember him by

@ThePandaaa

Жыл бұрын

Not true at all

@jorgegfigueroa9755

Жыл бұрын

​@@sean5364 but unlike some movie stars, his charisma and fan interaction is what makes him so likeable. Hell he's the reason why Superman is back

@Name-mi7bx

Жыл бұрын

You have Angelina Jolie, Matt Damon, Bradd Pitt, Johnny Depp, George Clooney........

ryan reynolds in the back laughing uncontrollably

This is a good thing in my eyes it means anyone can become a character and not only 1 actor controls all movies

RDJ and his Sherlock trilogy are an exception.

@marcusmartin5758

Жыл бұрын

Sherlock trilogy??? Are you on drugs? last time i checked he only has two sherlock holmes movies.

@P.W.N.ed_9000

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusmartin5758 they making a third

@Potato_Sama

Жыл бұрын

Sherlock is also a franchise movie though so no it doesn't really count

Leo is not the last he's just one of the few.

@lilxtasy4936

Жыл бұрын

tom cruise?

@johnmeza955

Жыл бұрын

Johnny Depp also

@bobfg3130

Жыл бұрын

@@lilxtasy4936 Yes. Brad Pitt also.

@lewis3853

Жыл бұрын

Denzel Washington?

@h.d.5194

Жыл бұрын

Christian bale, cillian Murphy and Joaquin phoenix are more but they are getting fewer and fewer.

Oh poor movies stars, they aren’t famous anymore 🥺 those poor millionaires, so sad to hear they aren’t getting recognized anymore

How is Leo the last movie star when there's literally the rock and Tom cruise

@oblivion9400

Жыл бұрын

Keanu Reeves

@iamvengeance763

Жыл бұрын

interms of acting

@javyon

Жыл бұрын

and christian bale

@rhodriwilliams2599

Жыл бұрын

Tom Cruise is mainly a franchise man though. People don’t always see the next Tom Cruise film: it’s the next mission impossible. Most of his films are either franchise building or flops or both (The Mummy for example). Then the Rock could be an argument however I genuinely can’t think of many good films he’s been in, they’re all either ok to bad. He’s a charismatic guy but his films are kind of trash.

@christopherwilson868

Жыл бұрын

The Rock cannot and will never compare to Leo or any other great actors. His acting is decent at best. Plus people go to see The Rock be The Rock which is exactly the opposite of what they're saying.

I feel like Dolittle is a bad example since it generally wasn't well received by anyone and is generally overshadowed by the Eddie Murphy & Kyla Pratt series of films. I went to see Men in Black International because I like the franchise but also because I like Chris Hemsworth & Tessa Thompson and I really enjoyed it. I liked Jonathan Majors from Lovecraft Country and I'm very excited for him as Kang in Marvel but also in Creed 3 & Devotion.

It’s always been that way to a degree. Before the RDJ Holmes movies, Holmes was the star, not necessarily the actor who played him. When they made the Batman and Superman movies before they were trying to compete with Marvel, Batman was the draw. Same with Bond, then Star Wars, Star Trek, Indiana Jones, etc. The MCU just expanded it.

It’s not the MCU’s fault, there’s just so much talent out there. It used to be that once you got cast in a movie that got big you were basically guaranteed more big opportunities. Now with so much coming out and with so many projects, you have to search hard for the good ones, as well as compete.

"But he went to Canbrook, that's a private school"

@donatellod.dabbins3609

Жыл бұрын

And his parents have a real nice marriage.

@Greg12839

Жыл бұрын

whats the matter dog u embarassed?

Keanu reeves,Jason statham,Matt damon,Ben Affleck,younger gen would be,Dylan obrien,Jennifer Lawrence,James McAvoy,Andrew Garfield,Harry styles,Saoirse Ronan.... I could go on,those ppl are actors some even did super stuff, all did amazing in a few movies 🤷🏻‍♂️

@ns1208

Жыл бұрын

You did not just put Harry styles in all these first class actors..His acting is laughable..🤣🤣

@TrevrepGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@ns1208 yeah I was debating that tbh 😅 but he's well known & popular 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

@jeffsterc1657

Жыл бұрын

Ryan Gosling bro how can you forget the guy who is responsible for men wanting to watch a Barbie movie. Tarantino is just salty he wasn't given the role of director for Luke Cage.

@TrevrepGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffsterc1657 Jeff 👍 gosling is good too,I just didn't have many pop up immediately 😅

Ton Cruise and Will Smith are still movie stars.

@Djirifoekrkfkf

Жыл бұрын

not really will smith cuz people now only see him as the supervillain Mr Slap

@OTB2002

Жыл бұрын

@@Djirifoekrkfkf what's your point, he's still a movie star

“Let’s go see movie name!” Actors:”PEOPLE DONT LIKE ACTORS ANYMORE!!!!!”

I think that Austin Butler has a chance at being a true "movie star" if he plays his cards right after elvis

That is true for an extent. But if a movie is coming out with a big name actor, you would at least watch the trailer.

I am 100% OK with this. Now, instead of getting someone famous to play a role, they’re not suited, they’ll just find someone who could play the role and is suited and no one will bat an eye.

Leo, Christian Bale actors like them are famous for more than one role. Scarlet Johansen probably (she's like in every third movie). Ryan Reynolds, Matt Damon... etc

Me: Holding actors to such a godly pedestal is dying off now :D Also me: Tiktokers and influencers are taking there place 💀

@bobfg3130

Жыл бұрын

Their

I do miss the days when I would go out to see the new “Hilary duff movie” or something along those lines of a very famous actor but now it’s just..

The problem is that Hollywood is looking at quantity and not quality. Used to be the same movies played for a whole season and we went to see them over and over. It was a big deal when a new movie came out

I actually like the fact that there isn’t “movie stars” anymore. Because I’m not personally a fan of big stars who are absolutely in EVERYTHING. And it’s made even worse when they play the same character in every movie (like the rock). It’s nice to see more talent nowadays than just like 5 actors and actresses who are the leads in everything

Leonardo DiCaprio, the last movie star. Tom Cruise has joined the chat.

@lordgrums7414

Жыл бұрын

Keanu reeves has joined the chat

@savatarx99

Жыл бұрын

Christian Bale, Margot Robbie, Jennifer Lawrence, Robert Pattinson, and Ryan Gosling has joined the chat

@Djirifoekrkfkf

Жыл бұрын

will smith joined the cha- but the slap happened now if will smith does more movies people will go to see Mr Slap

@thomasffrench3639

Жыл бұрын

Tom Cruise is from the 80s

Good. I welcome the twilight of the idols. Let people learn to live in awe of themselves from now on.

@dinkleberg2304

Жыл бұрын

Aye same mindset as me. People can enjoy their favorite fandoms/franchises. But fawning over another human being who doesn’t even know you exist is just weird.

@AMO17

Жыл бұрын

Same boat. The pedistalization of people who don't know you exist needs to end.

@thomasffrench3639

Жыл бұрын

Good. Now they can’t act in anything else again

Leo is definitely the only actor that feels like he’s just the character and not Leo

The issue is 1. As far as established characters go (super heroes, James Bond etc) there is built in affinity for the character so the actor is now forever associated with the character, instead of vice versa. 2. And why there are no more movie stars, is that there's so much you can consume, the opportunities to watch something new and be introduced to actors you've never seen before is infinitely greater than it was in the previous decades when you had a much a much smaller pool of movies and actors. Everyone would watch the same thing and become fans of the same actors.

I think Dwayne Johnson could be classified as a movie star as well

@stonecoldsteveaustin2095

Жыл бұрын

AGREED

@lewis3853

Жыл бұрын

He also stepped over into the superhero genre. Case and point. 😊

@alficammy6159

Жыл бұрын

​@@lewis3853 yeah but his name still a household name in Hollywood and doesn't tie to any other franchise while actor like rdj or Chris Evans people would always tie them to MCU and I think no actor want that I mean just look at actor like Leonardo dicaprio people know him as Dicaprio the actor not Jack Dawson from Titanic

Oh ya, these multi-millionaires really have it rough. Poor them.

Marvel is just a stepping stone, I remember I think it was a period in like 2018-2019 that Marvel actors were popping up in every movie. If they weren't stars people wouldn't have been excited to see them, people wouldn't care, if they just cared about the superhero no one would have cared. Tom Hiddleston, Brie Larson and Samuel Jackson in Kong was hype on the internet, Chris Hemsworth in Men in black. Tom Holland in a few of the animated movies, Dolittle. If they aren't stars then why were people so excited to see them in these movies

The irony of saying Chris Evans isn't the reason to see movies -- only Capt America -- is that I remember Chris Evans playing a banana split.

Simu liu making everything about himself like always 💀

@zaydhilal026

Жыл бұрын

The guy thinks he is a big deal now after doing Shang Chi 💀

@chaserseven2886

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​@@zaydhilal026 can't bl9hom, if I came out of nowhere and I earned loads of money from it I would too be like that

@dav1d9

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@@zaydhilal026 Being the star of a Marvel movie is definitely a big deal

@Tonycillian5

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@@dav1d9 Yeah for Mid actors. It doesn’t make you Leonardo DiCaprio all of a sudden

@dav1d9

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@@Tonycillian5 Of course it doesn’t make your Leonardo DiCaprio 🤦‍♂️

The last movie star to me are Leonardo Dicaprio, Tom Cruise, and Dwayne Johnson

@keishamorris5571

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Bredan Fraser is coming back, so count him in as a movie star as well.

@alficammy6159

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Ryan gosling and Jamie foxx too because those two really a good actor imo

I believe its only happened just because actors like brad pitt,leonardo dicaprio and johnny depp are the biggest actors of hollywood and fans can't accept any another actor as their role model because they have see leonardo,johnny and bradd from their childhood to adult so its not easy for them to accept any another star in their heart.

Tom cruise, the rock, Ryan Reynolds, off the top of my head, there is a reason most movies still list all the A-list actors during the trailer

I'd say Zendaya is one of the last movie stars given her critical acclaim beyond the MCU and how a lot of gen z grew up watching her all their lives

@bobobornin2002

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Maybe a TV star, but her presence in movies is limited

@stevenbryant8160

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Michael b

To me, the last true movie star is Tom Cruise

Chris Evans in Not Another Teen Movie triumphs over any and everything he did in the MCU.

Tarantino himself has said that he doesn't hate mcu, doesn't love it either. He always avoids trashing any films or filmmakers

I feel like Evan is going to be the next huge star..He is the only one I have seen being praised for acting in a long time not just the character.Would love to see his next ptojects..

@lewis3853

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I’m honestly always intrigued to see what Evans in whatever he’s done afterward due to how much liked his portrayal of Cap.

@ns1208

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​@@lewis3853 i am talking about Evan peters.. But I also love Chris Evans.

@Giblet12

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@@ns1208 Hahahahahaha

Since Anthony Mackie said that 5 years ago, it's more like Tarantino agrees with Mackie

People still love RDJ, Evans and other actors who play those characters.

You are not a dipshit that’s my role😂

Virgin Simu lu: Let me 🥩 ride disney Chad Anthony Mackie: "Ur Right."🗿

That’s an interesting perspective, hadn’t thought of it like that before, there is a point here.

All I know for me is that I have loved Chris Evans, RDJ, and Anthony Mackie in both the MCU and acting rolls outside.

It just sounds like they hate movie franchises , cuz tbh the MCU made and casted up coming stars themselves. Just cuz we love the characters doesn’t mean we forget about the actor those actors are huge stars now forever legendary

This has been happening since the 80s and star wars, the public would rather get behind a character and root for them. Cinema is not dead, franchises are just easier to make appealing.

Hollywood says they hate superhero films but they are really saying they hate disney.

There are cases like Christian Bale, he demonstrates exceptional acting and he was also batman... that's mostly because he can blend so well with his roles and hide his original persona making him unpredictable. Not only the makeup, his body structure, voice, accent and so on... unlike Robert Jr. who has a fixed persona. His most hit films have a Tony Stark vibe, Sherlock Holmes and etc. Sad to say, wide range of actresses and actors today are not that much devoted to their roles. But once in a while they do give brilliant performances which Hollywood later milks out for the rest of their lives.

Nowadays nobody will ever say " Let's go see the new X-Men movie."

Adam Sandler, will Ferrell, Ryan Reynolds, Dwane Johnson, chris Pratt, Jennifer Lawrence, mark walburg, Christian bale, Samuel L Jackson, Keanu reeves. These are all well known and loved actors who have played many characters. Pretty sure whoever said that was just a Leonardo decaprio fan girl.

I’m pretty sure Anthony Mackie was one of the first to talk about this topic

Idk but I watch any Andrew Garfield movie or Chris Evans movie just for them 😭

Tom cruise is the top tier for me. Damn the way he does his stunts, maverick was so good like bruh. Flying jets in real time with real maneuvers. Wild

For an actor like Daniel Kaluuya were he played Wakabe in Black Panther, I actually watched Nope and Get out not for him but for the director. (Jordan Peele) He is an amazing British actor and I can see him play other roles.

The fact that Forrest Gump couldn't be made today is the issue - it's the greenlight that's broken, not Thanos.

I gotta agree with Aniston, their just aren’t new huge blockbuster names coming up anymore…. Hollywood just sucks now, Maverick was a breath of fresh air I’ll tell you that

i think this is due to them being series films when you only have one of its kind like inception or titanic you call them by name or lead actors but when you have a series like the matrix you no longer refer to them as that keanu reeves movie

So basically a bunch of egotistical actors are upset that we care more about the characters they play instead of the vapid money-obsessed personalities they really have when the cameras aren’t rolling.

Tom cruise, leo, brad pit, ryan gosling, denzel, the rock are all "movie stars"

regardless of how good a movie is, they have to sell it. Big name actors with a reputation for good performances brings in a lot of attention. Some mcu actors success extends past their marvel roles, some don’t. Simu liu isn’t a movie star or a name that helps sell a movie on a good performance. He’s Shang chi, outside of marvel his name means nothing.

I completely agree, just looking at last's years oscars you can't tell me there were truly famous movie stars in there

That's the point tho. To create characters that go beyond the actor playing them.

Oh my god, it's almost like we watch movies for the characters and plot, not just for the people in them

Mackie was known as Clarence who lived at home with both parents. And his parents have a real good marriage before he was casted as Falcon. But he wasn't a big time actor before falcon. But also actors/actresses need to be in more great roles than just ones people know the character and i feel its skewed argument because they go off the basis of social media, which is dominated by a younger audience. People that are in their 30s and up still know these actors/actresses by name. Like Ryan Reynolds is still a star for all he's done. Tarantino is wrong. Jennifer Anniston is washed so I see why she would say that. Also RDJ is also known for his Sherlock Holmes role

It's one rule I always follow about movies or TV shows the actor is one person that can take one many different characters but is not THAT character.

I still wouldn't be going to see "the next DiCaprio movie" though. Talented as he is, I'm in the seat to watch the CHARACTER. ...and DiCaprio does a great job portraying characters.

Movie stars I think still have their relevance, Leo, Morgan Freeman, Tom Cruise, Tom Hanks, Brad Pitt, Jack Nicholson. All of these actors I can safely say people will still go to the cinema just because they are in it but the list is slowly deteriorating.

The problem is that actors are now playing roles who are also actors. People with 2 identities Robert plays a character that also dresses up as another character

We have keenue reeves, Nicolas cage, Sam Jackson, Morgan freeman, Tom cruise, Johnny Depp, Denzel Washington, ice cube, Vin diesel, like there's plenty of actors we know by name

I honestly think it’s for the better tbh. People idolize celebrities way too much as opposed to focusing on the art

Chris Pratt, Emma Stone, Adam Driver, Rami Malek, Mark Wahlburg, are all actors that ppl go to see because of their likeness, not cause of a character, maybe chris pratt but he had great dramatic roles that put him in the spotlight way before the mcu

I still follow actors like Florence Pugh

This is one area that Emilia Clark is very good in. When her roles have so much cosmetic enhancement, not only does her face become less recognisable but she can play more roles without her face being a distraction. So having actors play roles with different hair and makeup and costume definitely helps. Then there's the men who look different because of exercise and haircut (long vs short or beard, jacked vs skinny). I think it's better to go to the movies to watch your favourite character rather than your favourite actor, but it also leads to dissatisfaction when the actor's looks don't match up like Witcher's Yennifer. Actors may complain that they're stuck in a certain kind of role, but welcome to the blonde bombshell trap that has been a problem since the dawn of cinema! If they only get one big role and then lots of smaller roles then great! The pay gap in acting is ridiculous anyway so I see no problem with this. Get your 5 minutes of fame and then move along for the next person lol.

Jason Mamoa. His characters can be iconic but you still want Jason Mamoa