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@QINLI-od8es

2 ай бұрын

Nearly all of your question were answered by the books or Chinese version of Three Body show.

@agentseptember7185

2 ай бұрын

I don't get why they needed to magnify the signal with the sun if it was only going 4 light years to our closest star? Am I missing something or is this a plot hole?

Ye Wenjie's response is absolutely wild. I think you absolutely nailed how Wenjie and the Red Guard lady's conversation went. That definitely put Ye Wenjie's mind in a dark place. But it wasn't just that one conversation. She has been betrayed over and over again over the last 11 years, from her father's death to her partner letting her take the fall for the book, to her lab partner stealing her work, to the location for the radio lab being decided against her will, finally to the Red Guard lady being unrepentant for killing her father. The last thing the Red Guard lady said, "No one Repents." solidified in her mind that humans cannot save themselves. People who have given up hope on humanity often turn to external forces to save us. In Ye Wenjie's case, that is aliens.

@famimame

2 ай бұрын

Yes, funny how in the Tencent version the red guard lady came off and tender and kind. Left me confused the whole motivation of Ye Wenjie throughout the story.

@user-pm2b47ar8d

2 ай бұрын

​@@famimame you'd think the CCP wouldn't change it? It's a red guard. Of course they will change the red guard's bloodthirsty nature to a loving and caring soldier for the sake of their image

@user-pm2b47ar8d

2 ай бұрын

Her lab partner is also her husband in the book. They have a child named "Yang Dong". Also Ye wenjie killed her husband and the commissar before she left the radar base. This part of her story is crucial because it signify that she had somehow people caring for her yet she chose to kill both of them.

@biocapsule7311

2 ай бұрын

Apparently conversation was also more nuanced in the book then in the series. But to be honest, I don't think whether she reply or not would matter in the decision of Trisolarian coming, what she did made certain they come early. Because Earth is the close system, so they are going to take a look eventually.

@spamfilter32

2 ай бұрын

@@biocapsule7311 I've been told by those who read the book, that they needed a second transmission to locate where the signal came from. From just the 1 signal, they couldn't get a location, so they couldn't come. But by sending a reply, they could find our star system.

The reason they changed the winking of the universe from the CMB to the stars in the night sky is because the night sky is something anyone, especially people with little to no scientific background can understand, while the CMB would require a lot of exposition to explain to that audience. So, the change allows them to make the show available to a wider audience without having to spend precious time on exposition that might turn a portion of the audience off.

@Hattori_F

2 ай бұрын

Plus, it's more dramatic and it also doesn't change the story. The thing that causes the CMB to flicker in the book could also cause the stars to flicker. It's just a matter of blocking different parts of the electro magnetic spectrum.

@pjsebadoh5412

2 ай бұрын

Copy that.

@praiha

Ай бұрын

@@Hattori_F It is kinda a plot hole in the book. Why would the only blink the background radiation, when they are trying to cause a rift between scientists and normal people. Except to slowly build up the drama.

@RaviPatel-lb7uc

18 сағат бұрын

@@praiha If the whole sky blinks, both scientists and normal people observe that, and know things are fucked up, and everyone understands that something enormous is happening. If just CMB blinks, then scientists freak tf out because they are the only ones that have access to the tool to observe that. Scientists freak out and make a huge deal over something only they observed and can't reproduce.

best 3 body problem reaction on youtube period.

@TheParaxore

2 ай бұрын

Yup can't wait to see his reaction to ep. 5

@franzfrikadelli6074

2 ай бұрын

@@TheParaxore Right? cant wait :)

@user-tt4jz3tm6t

2 ай бұрын

True, but to be fair, there's like 3 of them

@louieyoung350

2 ай бұрын

right.

@greywaren621

2 ай бұрын

Agreed! I really like Quinn, as well.

‘How many people get to say they saved an entire species?’, undoubtedly the likelihood of that quote ringing in her head was a contributing factor in her making the decision to send the message that she did

@pw383426

2 ай бұрын

She had no idea she was saving a species. She just wanted to hurt humans

@amelianyoom9545

2 ай бұрын

@@pw383426 I disagree, she specifically mentions that we cannot save ourselves and with the inclusion of the previous scene it feels entirely possible that this was in her mind. Of course I haven’t read the books so I don’t know if it’s explained exactly what she thinks there but this is ultimately how I interpreted it because we haven’t been told explicitly what she’s thinking which leaves room for interpretation by each individual, which I rather like, we aren’t being babied and are let to come to our own conclusions.

@Htleveryday

2 ай бұрын

​@@pw383426 Now that I think about it it makes so much fking sense, yes humans are responsible for endangering the bird species', and after her conversation with that girl, "Noone repents", she came to the conclusion that Humans will be responsible for their own end as well. She wanted to save a species by relying on those who are most further from being human. For a civilisation claiming that they would come and conquer meant they are very advanced and might have a very solid moral structure to reach that stage without destroying themselves in the process.

@akeelyaqub2538

2 ай бұрын

Its ironic that the listener who sent the warning was thinking the same thing. He hoped his warning would save the inhabitants of earth. Ye wenjie and the listener both betrayed their species by trying to save the others.

@akeelyaqub2538

2 ай бұрын

​​@@Htleverydaythe irony is that the second the trisolarans learnt about earth through its message they didnt hesitate to implement a total invasion of earth. It was their one and only conclusion and goal, no peace or treatys or anything were even considered, not even for a second.

Once induction stops working, physics is broken. 4:38 In this story, its not just a black swan event. Its a magnetic, turquoise, rainbow, backwards, opaque invisible, superimposed swan event. The particles in the accellerators just will not behave. Yes, even the stars and microwave background radiation blink for you. Is it a halicination? Has the data been simultaneously sabotaged? Are the atoms forming numbers in front of her eyes? Once physics is broken, there is no way to know. Laws of physics, laws of mathematics are only laws until counterexamples arise. There is no was to avoid counter examples. All conjectures have hidden lemmas that falsify the conjecture; even the conjectures that have been proven. This isn't just Goedel explaining that "this sentence cannot be proven". Humans are creative and can always find new ways to look at a problem; finding new refutations. So, we cannot throw out a theory just because we find anomalous evidence that would refute the theory. We can either exclude the counter example by definition or we can revise the theory in a way that incorporates the anomaly. Only when the counterexamples are overwhelming do we throw out a whole theory; and only when we have a better theory to replace it. But in 3 Body, every observation is a counterexample. No theory can be made when induction cannot work and physics is broken. Every problem becomes np hard. The salesman cannot find the shortest route if the houses are flamingoes. Like in Blade Runner, once one learns that their memories are false, they cannot even trust the present. However,

I think this is my favorite episode. That final scene of Ye Wenjie staring down at that button and realizing the gravity of what she's about to do... CHILLS!

@storieswithstyle

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, that scene was textbook setup and pay-off. Soooo brilliant.

I dont think she does it purely for environmental protection. Think about what she's been through - the betrayals, and the dark side of humanity. When she lost faith to humanity, the alien message gives her hope. Also, never mess with a astrophysicist, you dont know what she can do when she goes rogue lol

@pablopandolfo8446

2 ай бұрын

dude what? environmental reasons? only if its ecofascist environmentalism, because even the book addresses the pollution increase caused by the desperation to defend against the aliens (she was literaly experiencing the chinese fucking up the environment so they could develop fast to not be subjugated by imperialist powers). Also even if we didn't pollute even more earth what would the aliens do on earth and its ecosystem? prob would not be nice. prob most earth species would go extinct. she's the literal worst human being to exist in the story. her actions end on the destruction of the solar system.

Love the academic gossip/drama with your colleague. Your reaction is probably the best on yt right now

@user-pm2b47ar8d

2 ай бұрын

Lmao. He's the only one with a scientific background reacting to this show.

"I love cosmic horror so much" That got you a "subscribe" from me

I am watching a scientist who's too smart for this show and spoiled the entire story for himself after one and a quarter episodes in haha

@storieswithstyle

2 ай бұрын

We will see :D

Yours and Quinn's Ideas are the only channel I watch regarding The 3 Body Problem. I love your reaction videos and how you go in-depth with your own expert knowledge. Worth the wait!

The "stage one" game Jin Cheng experienced was centered on China's Shang and Zhou Dynasties, not Mongolia. A historical era that is renowned for divination practices, with the writing of the famous ancient text "I Ching".

As for the Fermi Paradox… I grew up in a house on a dead end street. We always got waaayy less kids on Halloween, because why waste your time on this little street without many houses. Perhaps we are often visited, and it’s hidden from us or, perhaps, we are a dead end street that doesn’t offer much incentive to visit.

This channel was the best find of the year for sure, I'm having so much fun watching your videos! Much love

@storieswithstyle

2 ай бұрын

Hope you keep enjoying the content. =)

For the Wow! signal and Ye Wenjie's ability to read it, while no one else could, my assumption is that when the Chinese sent out their message, they encrypted it (along with sending the cypher key). So when the response was sent back, the Alien used the same encryption. Since Ye Wenjie knew it was encrypted, she knew the cypher and so could decrypt it. Only someone who knew the cypher could read the response. Hence why it was undecipherable to the Americans. And while the Chinese would have the cypher, they would only be able to decrypt it if they first assumed it was a response to their transmission. And even less likely if the Chinese changed their cyphers periodically, because you wouldn't know which cypher to use unless you knew what day the original message it is responding to was sent. The reason you would encrypt your greetings to aliens is because they are competing with the Americans. There is no way to stop America from receiving any reply from the Aliens you reached so encrypting it would ensure that only you could understand the return message.

@Mangolite

2 ай бұрын

Dr. Eleanor "Ellie" Arroway did decipher it in Contact, and the world came together to build a space-time device far beyond our understanding because it looked like the sphere vessel she was in seemed to drop to the water below. Still, her video recording device contained 18 hours of static noises. While Dr. Arroway went to them for a peacful meeting, Ye Wenjie does the exact opposite and offered Earth on a platter. Just kidding, but your comment gave way to Contact, lol!

@spamfilter32

2 ай бұрын

@Mangolite in that story, the Aliens used a string of prime numbers as the basis of deciphering their message.

@greywaren621

2 ай бұрын

​@@spamfilter32Such a lovely book. For some reason, I love the mix of science and spirituality even though I am not a religious person.

@GoldenTV3

2 ай бұрын

I get it was for the story but just for clarification, in real life the receiver that received the WOW! signal literally didn't have the ability to record modulation so we'll never know if the signal was modulated or not.

@spamfilter32

2 ай бұрын

@GoldenTV3 only partially true. If the signal was modulated by less then 10 second intervals or more than 72 seconds we wouldn't know. Anything in between and we would. The detectors only made recordings at 10-second intervals. And it was only pointed in the direction of the signal for 72 seconds. So the total transmission could have been for much longer.

"Put you hand on the ground. It speeds up time." Tutorial mode activated.

What Will said in the class is the quantum suicide theory. It's a foreshadowing for the reveal of what he is dealing with.

In the original novelization and the Chinese version of the show, Ye Wenjie is brought to the base to create a new language using math as a code to communicate with the aliens, and she has a radical theory using the sun as an amplifier that gets explained more clearly.

During the cultural revolution, they killed off the sparrows to ptevent them from eating the rice. Unfortunatly the sparrows also ate the bugs. Devisating rice crops.

Can't wait to watch your reaction to this episode. But will have to wait till after work. 10pm local time.

@storieswithstyle

2 ай бұрын

Hope you enjoy it nonetheless =)

I'm really impressed with your mature attitude about science, truth, God, belief, chesterton's fence, etc. Your observations are really insightful.

I suggest you read at least the first two books, The Three Body Problem and The Dark Forest. The third book is Death's End. These books are regarded as the ultimate cosmic horror. It's written for people like you and is an answer to the Fermi paradox. I would like to know what you think of it.

You should also watch The Expanse, fantastic show!

@storieswithstyle

2 ай бұрын

Yes, I still have that on my list, but editing multiple seasons takes a lot of time and I hesitated to do 3BP as it also takes really long to edit and render. But I really hope to do it in the future. =)

@hollishenry8307

2 ай бұрын

I second this request!

@SlCKNESS_

Ай бұрын

@@storieswithstyle The Expanse is exceptional.

I like the phrase, we should live with the past, not in the past.

Another excellent reaction, love the physics stuff and anecdotes

So cool having someone go in depth with the various topics brought up even if it’s just sharing your thoughts. Glad I found this channel

@storieswithstyle

2 ай бұрын

Thanks, hope you enjoy the ride with me! =)

In the book, this meeting is more Ye's realisation that in this regime everyone was a victim. Revenge is pointless because the woman who was a teen was already brutalised and destroyed by events.

@blake2399

28 күн бұрын

Perfectly said was thinking the same exact thing lol

You're right, diamond isn't quite a cubic crystal! I believe it technically forms tetrahedral units based on the geometry of the carbon atoms, where each atom connects to four equidistant nearest neighbors. However, a tetrahedron can be inscribed by a cube, so the tessellation of a diamond crystal is usually visualized as a grid of cubic cells. Cutting a diamond with a nanofiber would also be especially difficult, because most nanofiber proposals in this vein are based on carbon allotropes. Any carbon-carbon covalent bonds in the thin fiber would be no stronger than the carbon-carbon bonds in the diamond block, so the thin wire would be prone to breaking before the bulk crystal does. (As always, TV has to dumb down the science a little bit in order to make an example of how powerful and cool their science fiction technology is ^^)

Notice the parallel between the Chaotic and Stable Era's in the game, and the Chinese woman saying "This is a new Era. The past is finished."

In my 3rd year of college we were placed in groups for a research assignment/paper. I had mostly seniors in my group but one other Junior. Everything was going smoothly and we get to the end and the other Junior and myself agree to compile all the sections and do final formatting....so I say "send me your citations and I'll get the cited works section done tonight" .... que the "we were supposed to cite our sources?!" from every single one of the seniors 😮 like, cmon guys, this is a RESEARCH paper and you're in your final year of COLLEGE! So I made everyone stay late and scour their search history until we found all the sources. What a nightmare. This is your reminder to always cite your sources.

Saul likes Auggie, and Auggie likes Saul. But Saul is a hedonist and non-monogamous, while Auggie is serious and monogamous, so they always have a little separation between them, despite both of them wanting to be together. In a way their relationship is not totally unlike Will's and Jin's, only Auggie does reciprocate Saul's feelings. Saul's hedonistic nature is the reason he hasn't made his big breakout by 30, while Auggie's seriousness is why she was able to not only develop new technology but to go out and secure the investor funding to make it a reality. So Auggie is constantly feeling let down by Saul's lack of seriousness and inability to commit.

@GangstarComputerGod

2 ай бұрын

Auggie is the worst casting imaginable. She is completely unlikable and of all the things to break immersion in the show it’s her. Just an awful decision to have her in that role.

@spamfilter32

2 ай бұрын

@@GangstarComputerGod you are objectively wrong.

A "god" is just a student (or entity) from a type-7 civilization that creates a universe for their grade-school science project.

Btw, I thought the dark forest 'solution' to the Fermi Paradox came from this book series. The second book is called just that: "The Dark Forest". Guess the author explored this hypothesis and gave name to it, but the idea predates his books.

I love your analysis. I read the books years ago and I wonder how I would react, watching the show, if I had not read the books. I am living vicariously through you as you watch it.

While commentating on this episode you accidentally stumbled into an idea that has deep ties to this series, more than you know. Hope you read the books they're far more interested in examining the scientific ideas put forth in the series, the writer is/was a scientist, so science isnt as half-assed as you would expect from most sci-fi.

I see you've already uploaded all 8 episodes, but just wanted to send along some encouragement that I really like your content so far! I enjoy reactors who talk alot and really break down what they are experiencing and tie it to the real world in some way. Just wanted to say thank you for taking time out of your day to day life to record these videos and put in all the extra effort it takes to edit and upload. I appreciate it, and your perspective. KZread videos like yours are what motivate me to sit down and get invoicing done at work...I physically cannot make myself do it if I don't have a video going 😂 today your content won out over some of my favorite KZreadrs reaction to game of thrones, so I hope that makes you feel at least a tiny bit special...I was just about to click their video when I saw your video in my recommendations, and now here I am!

Translation result I want to explain the Cultural Revolution to you. Of course I don’t agree with it, but anything, especially when it comes to the people’s movement, is not simply black and white, good and evil. The Cultural Revolution occurred when China experienced a period of darkness and chaos for nearly a hundred years. During that period of darkness and chaos, the gap between the rich and the poor was huge. Bureaucrats, landowners, and warlords oppress the lower class workers and peasants. The powerful occupy the ruling power of society, receive higher education, and establish class gaps. Instead, they use the wealth of exploitation to squeeze the lower class, trample on the law and the survival rights of the poor, and force the poor to die on the battlefield. At that time, the poor had to work hard and fight to ensure that their family would not starve to death. If you are a member of the bureaucratic, landlord, and warlord class, even though you are highly educated, respect traditional culture, and sympathize with the poor, you will spend a lot of money growing up. Every penny may be your family's sinful income. In fact, most of the rich people at that time did all kinds of evil and lawlessness. So when the communist trend of thought came, with the help of the Soviet Union, the Communist Party first received the support of the majority of workers and peasants and established a strong armed force. After Mao Zedong led it and defeated the Kuomintang government, which represented conservative and capitalist bureaucrats, Mao Zedong I personally want to break all old traditions and let the people at the bottom, especially the poor, stand at the top of the country. In doing so, he believes that first, he can get rid of the obstacles of the bourgeoisie and speed up the construction of the socialist system. Second, he wants to change China. The kind of oppression of lower class people brought about by traditional classes. So he will launch a movement that will allow those who were previously disrespected and had no assets to attack the former landlords, rich people, religious leaders, and even compradors in Western countries, intellectual authorities and even senior officials within the Communist Party. Although the people's trial was conducted, no physical harm was allowed at first, only public humiliation was allowed. Later, when the movement intensified, signs of civil war began to appear. In this process, there were both the influence of the power struggle of the ruling class and the excessive radicalization of the lower-level revolutionary masses. influence, but one thing is that most people participating in the movement hate the darkness of the old era, and the intellectual group has no good way to deal with left-wing ideological trends. The banner Mao Zedong was flying at the time was called: People's Constitution, Great Democracy, Great Freedom, All Students can question and quarrel with their teachers, and all workers can go on strike or even revolt if they are dissatisfied with the arrangements of entrepreneurs. What he said is that it is impossible to build a new society without breaking up the old society. In fact, at that stage, most of the Everyone agreed that he knew. Food shortages were reversed only when chaos became unmanageable and political movements crippled the country's economy. Many people in modern society see problems and think that society will get better as long as it slowly improves. But people a hundred years ago knew best that it will not get better gradually. As long as the rulers with vested interests improve themselves, there is no future. , society is still committing suicide slowly. Only riots and bloody movements can change the social structure and bring out the vitality. Of course, it was ultimately proven that the harm of the Cultural Revolution was far greater than the benefits of progress. In the end, a strong people's equal rights movement was launched vigorously like every turmoil in history, and then died, waiting for the next cycle of reincarnation.

@rieyuki

2 ай бұрын

TL;DR: Mousey Dong was responsible for 150 million deaths, whether by execution, disease, famine (result of his irresponsible economic policies). His authority had been undermined by the great famines in the 1950’s, and so he started the Cultural Revolution to reassert his dominance over the CCP, by empowering Red Guards to “purify” the ranks of the CCP. The Red Guards, seen at the beginning of Episode 1, were comprised of (stupid) impressionable students. Their mass killings involved beheadings, boiling, disembowelment, and human cannibalism. Victims were focused on intellectuals, but included even those with “modern haircuts”. In the end, many of them were executed by the PLA, thereby winning the Darwin Award for “useful idiots” in record numbers.

@spamfilter32

2 ай бұрын

@@rieyuki Not true actually. The Great Famin of the 1950's was not unique in Chinese history. IT was the last famine in long parade of famines caused by the greed and unequal distribution of land and food in pre-communist China. Again, that was the LAST famine. Not a famine caused by communism, but rather Communism caused the famines to stop. Everything you typed is propaganda and not based on fact. But you do go on being a useful idiot for those who actually caused recuring famines and want that to happen again.

the book described some self interpretation system to take account for the translation problem.

@storieswithstyle

Ай бұрын

I see, that makes a lifting sense :)

The GOAT reactor.

"I don't really care for characters in Sifi. I am more interested in the concepts" ❤🧠 I am 100% certain you will LOVE the books. The show is very cool, but only a small part of the science is in it. And science is the main character of the books. Everything is explained in detail, sometimes with very cool scenes. And the science and human responses are extremely plausible, what makes it much more horrifying then the show. I absolutely love your videos on 3 body problem! Can't wait you reacting to the big reveals. I will give no comment on the mystery stuff until episode 5 :) Edit: The message they originally send into space was much more political in the books. The author never deals with the language barrier. He just assumes that the aliens can decode it. Probably he didn't wanted to deal with the hard science and all the problems with that. There are much much more interesting problems to delve into. :)

the cigarette girl wasn't an hallucination, their inability to see her on the video is. she handed them a decoder. an hallucination couldn't do that. the cameras caught it. but they can't see it.

@zollen123

2 ай бұрын

Sophon erased the image from the video.

@LatteMikan

2 ай бұрын

Sophon were erasing their traces, they have the ability to control time and space that’s why when their friend was killed against the glass, the detective couldn’t see it from outside, they controlled it in the same time not only in records

@Mangolite

2 ай бұрын

With the protons enveloping the world, the Sophon can manipulate what we can see directly, affecting our visual fields, such as the countdown and the universe blinking, or manifest itself in front of us, as they did with Wade. They don’t need to erase, they can mask it.

@Nemoticon

2 ай бұрын

My question is... how do the 'aliens' create the hallucination of the count down timer the various scientists see in their heads!

@lingoni5116

2 ай бұрын

Can't believe spoilers are being dropped with no one to call it out. What a horrible fanbase.

Saul is the only one smart enough to figure out the winking sky

Glad you are reacting to this, because I found your channel with the first episode, and enjoyed your comments enough to subscribe. Looking forward to the whole journey (I've read the books, but haven't finished the show yet), and looking through your other content as well.

Ye’s villain arc happened due to many setbacks that made her lose faith in humanity; therefore, she responded as she did.

@storieswithstyle

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, her actions were indcredibly well prepared. Masterful writing. =)

In the book, finding out that she sent that message into space is the big reveal at the end. It's funny that it happens 1/4th into the series. The story structure is sooo differnt.

@akeelyaqub2538

2 ай бұрын

Its cos not much really happens in the first book until the last few chapters so they put some events earlier and some later and added stuff from the second book to make it less boring to casual viewers. I think the changes in pace work really well for the show and personally I think the characters are much better in the show than they are in the books.

@paulchaisson8301

2 ай бұрын

It's Netflix, you gotta go full throttle and get everyone invested so the execs are forced to keep the show going past the S2 finale cliffhanger. We don't have time for the slow burn of the book.

@miguelpadeiro762

14 күн бұрын

It's a different medium, stories structures often have to be changed when you are doing intermedium adaptations, be it shows into movies, movies into books, books into shows, or even video games into shows! If you have a 1:1 adaptation of very different mediums (like a book and a TV show), it's safe to say you didn't do enough work in your adaptation. At least in my opinion. In my opinion, a good adaptation holds true to the story, yes, but also does the necessary changes to bring a good implementation of the story in the new medium. And this often plays out in the structure of the story. Flashbacks work differently, some plotpoints are more explicitly, or less explicitly shown to the audience, etc. Because the two mediums have their weakspots and strongspots. For example, the Planet of the Apes franchise. The original book's plot twist is that, all along, the astronauts were apes! You can do that in the medium of books, the reader only sees what you tell them. But a movie? You can't do that plot twist! The viewer sees that they're apes at the first minute. So they changed the plot twist. The soul of the story remained the same, but the structure, and even the plot, was relatively changed to accomodate to the new medium. It's why when you adapt books, you don't hire authors, you hire screenwritters. They know the trade of shows, and with the help of the original author , or some other expert, they can devise the new product.

not gonna lie, that bow-tie completes the stereotype

loved your reaction. Looking forward to more reactions to this series. Cheers !

You really need to release merch with "Holy Shit, Man!" on it 😂

@storieswithstyle

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I say that a lot 😂

exactly the kind of reaction I was looking for when it comes to this story!

Great reaction. Love your insight and stories

15:44 i believe the chinese encrypted their message and sent it with a key, so that if anyone heard it they would be able to use the same code to respond and only the two parties exclusively would have the ability to communicate.

@spamfilter32

2 ай бұрын

This is my hypothesis as well. I haven't read the books, so I wonder if they go into this.

@franzfrikadelli6074

2 ай бұрын

Don't think that could work.

@lauren_faulkner

2 ай бұрын

@@franzfrikadelli6074 i’m not disputing its realism, i’m telling you what happened in the plot lol

@RafaelFigueredo87

2 ай бұрын

But how the aliens understand chinese? That's the main issue.

@franzfrikadelli6074

2 ай бұрын

@@lauren_faulkner Why are you loling if you agree? Wasn't criticizing you but the author ;)

1:22:02 they actually mean that the cultural revolution is over, the year is 1977.

Looking forward to more insights and community gossips... loveeeed it.. also in love with your intelligence... something you decode immediately (e.g., the game, eras hinting at theirs) took me so long to understand.. :')

Holy crap! subscribed! love watching you watch this amazing show!!!

Just to mention something about the fleshed out characters. The Chinese storyline is quite similar to the book. The UK is slightly similar,(Barely at all). And even so, the main complaint people have on the books is the lack of flesh-out characters. The plot is so compelling that the characters really take a backseat. Which is fine in sci-fi.

i do look forward to your future reactions to this series

Keep these coming!

My mans needs no introduction to the dark forest.

I enjoy you reaction for this, can't wait to see you reach the end of the story.

In terms of the message : It was meant to be a type of self-decoding message kind of like the Arecibo message attempts to be. Not sure how and if that would work but that is how its explained in the books.

@sicongli6594

2 ай бұрын

IMO this is the weakest link in the depiction of the first contact in the book: the two wildly different species instantly establish perfect mutual understanding of each others' intentions, in human natural language too. No amount of self-decoding can achieve that.

@paulchaisson8301

2 ай бұрын

​@sicongli6594 Eh, if one species is sufficiently advanced, they could have a computer that can translate things. Then again, an imperfect understanding of the other species would be a pretty big plot point. Like if one side didn't understand the concept of lies and deception. But you only need one side to develop the understanding, they can send a translation guide.

Yes, exactly. The scientific process is like Plato's allegory of the cave, where we constantly strive to perceive reality with improved models. There's an intriguing thought experiment in the original novel, in which a theoretical physicist explains how to establish our current understanding that key principles of physics are observed to be invariant across space and time, by moving a large pool table around the room. This scene is also present in the Tencent adaptation of the book. Too bad Netflix's adaptation didn't keep stuff like this.

That quote in German you mentioned is very poetic. And totally applicable to so many things in history. I wonder if Oppenheimer was realising this and quoted the Bhagavad Gita (slightly incorrectly if i remember and my memory serves me right)

I found out that the Dark Forest Theory is named after the 2nd book in this series which is wild

Subscribed. Here for this!

If anyone thinks that the inclusion of Silent Spring in this story was meant as a compliment to its author,they are sorely mistaken.

@storieswithstyle

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, after what Che did it is def the seed of catastrophe :D

the dr*nking game for this video: drink every time he says " holy sh*t man"

@storieswithstyle

Ай бұрын

Don‘t do one for „awesome“ in e5 either :D

YOU have been hired, by the...well I can't say without spoiling it. 😉

16:15 oh boy oh boy you are gonna absolutely LOVE this series. And I will be watching your youtube career with great interest.

Dude I love your reactions. I will just say: keep watching. Also, Peter Watts books are recommended as well, especially Blindsight.

1:03:00 Wow your thoughts are just on par with the original book author again. He also doesn't believe divination is just wrong by any means, its just a matter of wether a model is good enough. You just resonates with the author' ideas at so many levels I just have to recommend the original book series to you. You are going to absolutely love them.

I'm not very good at science or math but I am so invested in the magic of it (Yes, magic) and I love fiction that delves into quantum and cosmic magic. I know science is not magic what i mean is that it just feels magical. That is why I have binged this series twice. I also appreciate this kind of deep dive into concepts

💙💙💙💙💙💙💙 love your analysis danke

@storieswithstyle

2 ай бұрын

You are welcome! =)

In the case of Augy, she is a unique position to stop the research because its private and she's in control of it, at least at the moment. But because its supposed to be for profit and her command to stop hurts the investors, she'll inevitably be replaced and the research will continue unlesd she made it economically non viable through some destruction of industrial secrets, extremely expensive equipment, etc. This would only delay the development by others once they can get around IP restrictions... but it could still allow for the situational drama to exist. This isnt university or "public" research. It's a singular proprietary leap forward in a simgle type of materials technology. Perhaps without the industrial secrets, the known science can't be economically exploited in a viable way.

I have already watched the whole thing and I am familiar with the books. No spoilers from me, but I like listening to your reactions. Well done!

I get Ye Wenjie's attitude. I find myself hoping sometimes with all my will that the rock scheduled to pass within LEO will actually hit us.

It’s not about environmentalist, that’s only very small part of the reason she pushed the button. Ye suffered decades of human and society failure, got hurt and betrayed again and again. Deep in her heart humanity isn’t worth saving. As she says, “I don’t know alien, but I surely know what hell looks like.” The conversation with the red guard years after she killed her dad is the last chance Ye gave for human being. After hearing the “no one repent”, her last hesitation of obliterating the world has gone. Interesting thing is, in the book, after she pushed the destruction button, she met a bunch of very kind villagers who saved her life multiple times and warmed her world. Therefore, she actually suffered making her decision once until that conversation with the red guard.

When I watched this episode, especially with sattelites and teliscopes not registering it, I thought more along the lines of the flickering stars being an atmospheric phenomenon. Which would mean you would need something like a substantial swarm of nanobots to cause something like this? Also, in regards to nanofibers: I thought I read over a headline recently about how nanofibers really can't cut anything? But yeah, "glancing over a headline" is not exactly having expert knowledge about the subject.

@storieswithstyle

2 ай бұрын

Yep, looked it up and nanofiber is really "out there" and not very likely. Would have to ask a solid state matter colleague, though. =)

The Earth is just approximately 5 billion years old. The Milkey Way Galaxy is about 10 billion years old. Life has existed on earth for at least 4 billion years. Life formed on earth it seems as soon as the crust was cool enough to support liquid water. No later then 500 million years after the earth formed.

I am waiting for episode 5 🙂

I would suggest looking for physics solutions. How using physics could you cause the starlight to blink on and off.

I believe she is CTO for her company. All technology legally has to go through her unless she is fired/quits. This is proprietary technology so no one outside the company knows how to build this technology (yet...I'm sure they're working on it). Everyone inside the company is behooven to her, and cannot progress without her express authorization. She has sole authority to shut down the project.

Concerning the real-life Wow! signal: 1) It is wrong to say that it has been explained. It actually still remains a mystery and the most plausible candidate for a genuine alien radio signal. 2) It is known to have originated from the direction of the constellation Sagittarius, and this is astronomically inconsistent with the premises of the show. Thus, it is basically a mistake from the show runners to include it in the story, if one wants to be nitpicky.

What she means by “divination” vs “scientific laws” is that they’re using past events to predict further events rather than understanding the laws that determine how the planetary bodies act.

The Universe is 13.7 billion years old and the Earth is 4.5 ish billions :):)

@HoundsBane

2 ай бұрын

Oh! Well thanks for clearing that up! 😅

@storieswithstyle

2 ай бұрын

Fun fact, a current study even dates it over 20 billion. =D

@HoundsBane

2 ай бұрын

@@storieswithstyle incomprehensible measurements of time! 😵‍💫 ⏰

Oh, also in regards to the Fermi Paradox: I always feel like people, when they think and talk about this, don't take time into account too much. Yes, our universe is huge with a vast number of stars and thus a vast number of planets that could support life. Maybe the reason why we haven't found any yet isn't just distance but also time, because the universe is also pretty old and the amoung of time, in comparison, that we have theorized about alien life and been able to send and receive signals, establish contact, etc? Very very small in comparison to that. Who is to say that intelligent alien life even remotely exists within that same timeframe?

@storieswithstyle

2 ай бұрын

Yes, also considering that the universe will probably be around for a very long time. =)

@akeelyaqub2538

2 ай бұрын

In the scale of the universe, its pretty young. Which also presents a similar problem. Has life even had long enough to evolve to intelligence anywhere else? Took 4 billion years on earth. The trisolarans in this story for example progress at like a millionth of the speed that humans do because of the hostile nature of their world. There could be a million reasons that is keeping life elsewhere from progressing to a level equal to or greater than us.

I think Will is wrong. The Many Worlds interpretation does not say, there are infinite other "Universes". Just a ridiculous amount of them. 😄

@ravissary79

2 ай бұрын

Right, there's a limited number of ways a finite amount of subatomic particles can relate to eachother. It's a number beyond our ability to take in, but it's finite. And there probably aren't even that many number of them with you or I in them. I mean it's still likely a lot, but a its likely only a minority have intelligent life at all. Amd there's so many ways that could have gone such that most of those might not even have humanity. And only a minority of ones with humans would likely result in individuals genetically the same as you or I, but if the circumstances are significantly different they may not be otherwise very much like you... like how if you seperated twins at birth and one was raised in crime and the other by Amish people. They would be very different people even if biologically analogous. In no sense if you died here would "you" live on there. Every universe is utterly irreplaceable even if the MWH is true.

@franzfrikadelli6074

2 ай бұрын

@@ravissary79 I like you :)

@ravissary79

2 ай бұрын

@@franzfrikadelli6074 thank you! I wouldn't have chimed in if your point wasn't good. 👍

Chinese is indeed hard. The written language is based on ideograms, so you need to memorise individual characters. There is no alphabet and the language is not phonetic. For example, when I look at an English (or German, French, etc.) word, I can pronounce it even if I do not know what it means. You can't do that for Chinese, although in some cases, you can guess the possible pronunciations based on certain components. As for the spoken, there are many Chinese dialects/languages, with the official one being Mandarin. Mandarin (and other Chinese languages) is a tonal language, where each syllable can be pronounced in four different tones, as well as a neutral tone. Cantonese has nine tones. I think the tones are the part that are difficult for non-native speakers to grasp.

I would love to hear your thoughts on the book series that this show is based on. There is also another TV adaptation made in China by Tencent which is much more book accurate and does not cut as much of the science content as this Netflix version does.

watching and editing through: Saul represents logic so he only operates according to whats known, he even laughed after he said what he thinks the flickering stars were (it also gimps his character so you can focus more on the others, he's supposed to be the smartest of them all) They asked for her theory instead of her hypothesis to relate more to the audience (who are more likely to relate less to the word "hypothesis") its also a weird, off the cuff epoc so they kind of approach it with more casual language making a note of the name meaning! I keep wondering why no one else does this. It looks like this is gonna be a good reaction series Hoping not to spoil anything but the tests are to see how good they are at solving their own historical issues which may mirror issues of their own: One child policy, generational sacrifice for a better future (which initially looks more like a self serving cultural decision) theres a significance with the bug Jack blew on the horizon (youll find out something about bugs later) its all foreshadowing. also that tree. ....i really should start my own channel 😂 A lot of people dont like the truth about the multiverse theory but its good to hear you talk about it becauae I have the same perspective on it I think what Jins problem with divination is it behaving more like an answer towards hope instead of an answer towards reality. we use reliable divination practices to get to a platform where we can reliably cultivate a new reality/insight thats tangible and useable. science is using the most reliable divination to obtain the most reliable "truth"

You are so funny 😂

Funny, I just recently read the universe may actually be twice as old as we thought, but who knows. But my thoughts about the Fermi Paradox were along the lines of us just being... early to the party. That there just aren't that many that far advanced species out there YET. So in a far distant future space faring alien races might stumble upon the ruins of our civilisation (if there's anything left of the Earth at that point). It's a lonely thought, but also weirdly comforting. Definitely preferable to the Dark Forest, for me at least.

dark forest as the answer to the fermi paradox has its origins in this book series. The author cixin liu proposed it.

The series is on utube

DO NOT ANSWER my god it is so spooky

Veritas means truth, Vera would mean true. In languages like Portuguese, "vera" still means true, like Brazil used to originally be called "Terra da Vera Cruz", land of the true cross

"I love cosmic horror so much." Me: Insta-subscribe XD

How can a reaction video be longer than the actual show? lol 😂

@storieswithstyle

2 ай бұрын

My reactions always are longer than what I watch. :D

Japan is the land of the rising sun, hence the name, which in Chinese literally translates to "Sun root" (Ru-ben, Ni-Hon depending on the Language between Mandarin/Japanese using the same characters). To fill in some parts because it's not covered in this version, the reason replying is important is because the other race can't triangulate the source of the original message, because it came unprompted, where this reply would put a range on how far away we are, with the reply arriving in 8 years confirming the 4 LY distance. Also, it's not covered in this, but the particular alien that answered was punished by being made to watch what is to come, which was an interesting point in the Chinese version that I can't remember from my listening to the Audiobook as I nodded off a couple times (14 hour days running 3 software engineering teams in 3 time zones has been killer) - I'll have to read it properly myself when I can. The Chinese version also explains the broken physics better with a pool demonstration - where 3 identical shots were taken knocking a white ball into a black one at a constant speed and angle, one sinks the black ball, the second causes the black ball to fly around the room for a while and the 3rd causes the black ball to suddenly shoot out of the solar system at a large fraction of the speed of light - given those 3 outcomes and all prior understanding of physics, you'd probably also say that "physics is broken" too - what's not shown here is that despite the collider results being the same class of nonsense outcome as the black ball flying around the room or shooting out of the solar system, someone was able to fax those exact results to the physicist a few minutes before the collision actually occurred - so not only did the black ball just leave the solar system after the white ball hit it at a normal speed, someone was able to perfectly predict that it was going to happen somehow and faxed it to you before you even performed the experiment. There's a little more to it than that, but it leans into spoiler territory. When you are done with the Netflix version, watch the original Chinese - it's 30 episodes, it's much slower paced, but more faithful to the original source The only downside apart from the pacing at times are the Chinese historical parts like the Struggle session being replaced with CHINA GREAT #1! propaganda, where for example, instead of dying the father saw the error of his ways and how great the CCP was and he repented and lived - just having to live with the "shame" of being a traitor to his people or something. They also skim over the nonsensical hatred of Western scientists like Einstein by briefly mentioning that criticising them isn't a good idea and the movement may have gotten a little over-excited, but learned it's lesson, but then quickly distract you from that point with a story about how his own father (Ye's grandfather) lied about his meeting Einstein - before the revolution saved everyone he was a poor beggar kid on the street and Einstein walked past and asked how much he earned, but he told everyone they talked about physics as equals, so please pay attention to the fact that the CCP-resister's views were based on lies and not the actual history of the revolution and the CCP...

Is will talking about the many worlds wherethe notion for "If the universe is infinite then the probility of the same kinds of atoms with the same numbers and distances relative to each other in our observable part of our universe would form an infinite exact copy of it, or the multiverse multidimensional, multiple realities thing. It would be nice and convenient if we just hop from the begining of one consciousness of our instances to another when we 💀