ANOTHER DRILL PRESS FOLLOWED ME HOME
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It happened again--broke my promise--bought another machine I do not need.
I now have 9 drill presses in various sizes--CRAZY.
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This press has worked like a charm for my projects kzread.infoUgkxajoEbapTfqWaadnqb04h6U576yxXp-FE . I didn't even secure it to my table top, mainly due to the fact that I was using a 15 lbs drill vise. It's not flimsy at all as to what others have claimed it to be. Make sure the locking nuts and levers are secured and there won't be any issues with light pressure and patience. I was able to drill through aluminum, plastic, and steel (steel took a while) with no problems at all. Yeah it took a little longer than a regular drill press, but I don't have the space OR the money for one.The instruction manual was worthless, but luckily assembling the press was intuitive. However, the manual would be good for ordering replacement parts if needed. There is a nice breakdown of the parts that are included in the kit. Before ordering, make sure it is compatible with your unit, it is clearly stated what models the press is compatible with.This was an excellent purchase for $40!!
The belt tension is done by the bent lever next to the plastic headed bolt that you were trying to take out. Keep this one and give Jordan one of your other ones. Regards from Australia.
@duron700r
Жыл бұрын
I was surprised you didn't know that trick that Dave mentioned!
@trollforge
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Of course you beat me to this exact comment Dave! (Well other than the Regards from Austrailia part...) ;)
@mrpete222
Жыл бұрын
YOU ARE CORRECT--i WAS WRONG
No filters, much appreciated. Thank you.
Mr. Pete! Still the BEST educational and entertainment on today's television. If its still called that.... Back in the day I would have been happy to have you as my shop teacher. I know I would have learned something. I might of even taken up being a machinist, like my father. I can't wait for your next video Mr. Pete. My favorite shop teacher. MJ
@mrpete222
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Thank you very very much for the encouragement. I bought a couple of videos on the other day, that no one will watch. So I needed some encouragement
@madsam7582
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@@mrpete222 Most times it isn't a case of what people want to watch, pretty much everyone subscribed WANTS to see the channels they subscribe to it's just the KZread algorithms that mean that people don't see when the channels they're subscribed to post things. That's why you'll see some channels say "subscribe AND ring the bell" that means that you'll get the notification when they post. But another good way to do it is get an Instagram account, and ask your KZread subscribers to follow you there, and you can post pictures of current projects, and use that to alert people when you put videos up on KZread.
Thank you for the nice presentation of the machine. The speed will be 510rpm at 14:31 according to the setting of the belts. Without to much experience I would propose to put the machine on a pair of wooden beams to keep children from knocking it down.
Jordan is gonna love it. I have it's 2 pulley brother. Mom and Dad bought it for me Christmas, 12.18.93. I wrote the date under the cover. Write the date and a note to him there. The memories he gets will be priceless. I'm sure Dad wasn't happy, as I recall it was $300.00. Mom told him to do it. They grew up in the depression, Dad was a banker. I did have to locktite the set screw on the drive pulley. The lever on the left side is for tightening the belts. Mine has been a great home owner unit. No problems at all. Not everyone needs or can afford industrial grade tools.
@mrpete222
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Less than $100 is a great price. I've had that drill same drill press for 40 years and it's still going strong. The rusty handle next to the plastic wing nuts is how you tension the belt (you don't need to pry with a screw driver) and changing speed is very fast and easy. Keep up the great work!
@mrpete222
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I thought that rusty lever was the lock for the head stock to be tightened to the column
Mr. Pete, I purchased a new Sears drill press in 1975. It had been in the catalog about 4 years by then. It was made by Atlas Press in the USA. It had a production size table with T slots. No openings for coolant to leak from and no center hole in the table. There was a 1/2 inch threaded pipe hole in one corner to feed the coolant back to a pump. It had a broad base and weighed close to 275 lbs. It had 8 speeds, but to accomplish that, it used a special 1/4 inch V belt. I believe the low speed was around 150 rpm. I used it mostly for metalwork and never had the belt slip. I did purchase a couple of spare belts. After 15 years I replaced the spindle bearings due to noise. Like many drill presses of that era, the spindle was a male Jacobs #33 taper. It came with a 1/2 inch Jacobs 633 chuck with a threaded locking collar. I think by 1980 Sears started importing drill presses. That might be a clue as to the age of your drill press. It was a good machine. We moved out of state in 1994 and I wanted something better, so I sold it to a friend. He still has it and uses it more than I did and has not had to replace the bearings again. I bought a Clausing 15 inch drill press with mechanical variable speed and a 1200 rpm motor for metal work. It was near the end of Clausing's USA production. It's 15 years old and I haven't had to do anything except lubrication. It does have a female Morse #2 taper. It has T slots and no center hole. Enjoy your new tool!
@mrpete222
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I loved your comment and my answer will be very similar to your comment. In 1971 I purchased a Sears 15 inch drill press with the narrow belt. It did not have a production table. I used it for many years. And my bearings went out after about 20 years and I replace them. Actually it was a pretty darn good machine, but I wanted one that ran slower. I did not need the high speeds. So I gave that to my buddy who was the auto teacher. Believe it or not, in three hours I am meeting him at his house to make a video of that sears press
I'm glad You're not a close friend visiting me, so my machines would follow You home..... Joking! Here in Sweden we faced the same, a 10 degree C quick drop in temperature, wind from the north moving unpleasantly fast.... In general, the risk of tipping over is very valuable to think about. Lots of speeds but at the cost of lots of work.... I agree with You, humans don't like time consuming work. The same here. The geartrain on the mini lathe is used for threading and a DC motor moves the leadscrew in normal cutting.....
@mrpete222
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Mr. Peterson, I own a very similar Craftsman drill press, that I've had for at least 30 years. I've never been impressed with it. The original chuck was garbage and I replaced it about 20 years ago. When under a medium to heavy load, the belt will slip, rendering the press unusable. Like you, I appreciate the older, quality made US tools and own an ancient Delta drill press that works perfectly. It was purchased at an on-line auction from a local school district, and the table had dozens of peck marks from who knows how many students over the years, but the quality is impeccable. I'll take a 50 year old, US made tool over an import any day of the week. Keep up the great videos!
@mrpete222
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Could not agree more with you
Mr Pete you had a lot of humor in this video! I love it. "Don't be nosey keep your focus here"! It was a value because it gave many people some education and entertainment!
@mrpete222
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Coco is thinking about a new direction!🥂🥂🥂🥂
Have almost the exact same drill press ... but 1-1/2 horsepower and 17" version ... Model No. 113.213170. Made in Taiwan. Mine has 16 speeds from a low of 200 rpm to a high of 3630 rpm. My tilt/swivel table ... which I ALSO installed backwards like yours was ... does have T-slots. I'll have to correct table orientation! It has been my workhorse for 30+ years in my basement ... zero rust and still great chrome. Purchased it May 17, 1990 ... still have the original manual and receipt. Manual says nothing about M2 taper ... but I've put a note in User's Manual to remind myself. Like the receipt says "Your Money's Worth and a Whole Lot More." Because of your video, I've learned several things about my old press I never knew or bothered to investigate. For that, I thank you sir!!
@donaldkormos5529
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BTW ... drill press cost me $399.88 plus $27.98 tax (Cleveland, OH) ... for a total of $427.86 in 1990. All the best ...
@mrpete222
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Thank you for that information
I am jealous, that is the drill press I have always wanted. The speeds, M/T spindle, and the table are the features I look for in a drill press. You scored a good one. Thanks for sharing.
That exact same model of drill press has been re-badged and sold by many retailers over the years. The version I own was purchased from Harbor Freight 12 years ago and except for the table is identical to yours except HF gave you a capacitor start motor. A few things: The jack shaft pulley assembly rotates on a pin in the casting for belt tensioning. Make sure it keeps moving by lubricating it with oil. The same for the motor mount pins. Others have mentioned the lever to tighten the belts. Usually the drive belts are junk and have taken a set. I used a accu-link belt from your favorite Freight store. One link belt was enough for both belts. I bought parts from Grizzly (from their version) to add a traditional depth stop to the drill press although you could easily make them as a project. The main part is a piece that clamps to the quill with a threaded rod that is used with a clothespin-type height adjuster. Works great! I still use the factory spindle clamp at the handle to lock the quill down. I also bought a used keyless Albrecht chuck for the press back years ago when these were cheap on Ebay. It amuses me that the new price for the chuck was far more than the drill press itself! Overall, as long as you view it as a light 1/2" drill press it works fine with it's saving grace being the 3 belt pulleys that drop the RPM's down to usable metal cutting speeds.
@mrpete222
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Thank you for the tips. I did not realize that center pulley was used for tensioning.
@douglasbollinger8678
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@@mrpete222 When the jack shaft pulley mechanism seized on mine, the one belt was much tighter than the other causing vibration because the pulley wasn't centering correctly between the other two and it wasn't obvious. Had to use a prybar to pull the works out and lube.
I bought one identical in the 80's. They had a return on the store floor. When I requested to see it run, the salesman was hesitant, saying he didn't have an extension cord. I quickly pointed to a shelf full of them behind him. He plugged it in and I immediately saw why he hesitated, the spindle was bent. I walked 40 feet to the catalog department and ordered one new. Great drill press. Thanks Lyle!
@mrpete222
Жыл бұрын
You’re a very wise man to ask for a demonstration
Like the vintage lathe behind the drill press
Great video Lyle. That was a good deal on that drill press. The Morse taper feature on the spindle gives it a lot of value. I have, and still own Sears power tools of the same vintage, yes they cheapened up some features but they always did, and are still getting the job done. Really good score!
@Bob_Adkins
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Mine has a Jacobs taper, I assume his does too.
@joemcgarry1106
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@@Bob_Adkins It may be a Jacobs taper. Lyle claimed it was a Morse taper. I took him at his word.
@Bob_Adkins
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@@joemcgarry1106 Oh, me too! Honestly, I can't tell the difference without carefully comparing or reading the markings. It's quite possible they are different, I was just warning about automatically assuming it's Morse when it could be Jacobs because mine is.
I love the rotating depth stop on this. I have one just like it and would never buy a drill press without one. This is a fast and convenient way to set a depth stop. Rotate the dial counter clockwise to zero,put a little tension on the tightener and rotate to desired depth then tighten it. So much easier than that LAME threaded/nut nonsense!
@mrpete222
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Thank you, I will try that although it seems insane to me. I am surprised that you love it. Several other commenters hated it, lol.
@rbarnes4081
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I also like the rotating depth stop. Use mine all the time, quick easy, seems pretty accurate.
That press has everything needed for home shop use and more. I would’ve been thrilled to have the crank up table alone. Just needs a little clean up. Good pick.
@mrpete222
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When you give the drill press to Jordan make sure you give him one of your floating vices. Thanks for sharing 👍
@mrpete222
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I love drill presses! I was 8 years old when I first learned how to use one and could use one by myself due to how safe I was and knowing all the safety around it :) I also learned how to change gears in the motor and exchange the belt on it. I've done so many cool things with a drill press it's actually insane, now I stepped up to a milling machine with my grandpa 😁
@mrpete222
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That's a really good deal and not a bad machine for starting out. I believe that motor will put out 1 full horsepower for at least .003 seconds.
@mrpete222
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I think you had a decimal Point in the wrong spot. It would be .0003 seconds
You’re right, Mr. Pete, that Lego safety switch is the cheesiest thing but at least it kinda works. That said, you got a square deal, and the MT2 spindle is a plus!
That one is just like mine. I bought it in 1992 when I worked at Sears. Some guy bought a lot of woodworking power tools, drill press, planers, saws, etc. for his shop, then he was in a bad car accident and couldn't use the stuff so he brought them all back to Sears and got his money back. Sears marked all the stuff down, so I bought a few of the tools and the drill press was one of them. I milled the top of my CAT 3406 engine with it and it worked great!🤣 Mr. Pete, you got a good deal!
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It will be serviceable when you are done. Jordon will enjoy it.😊😊😊😊
"pay attention to this, don't be nosey", always the great teacher.
@mrpete222
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My drill press is similar but without the swivel table. I clamp a small engineer's hand vise within the drill vise. This gives much better work holding for many items. I love using it.
@mrpete222
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Excellent find Mr. Pete! I wish you many years of good use from it. I have had many stray machines follow me home over the years and none have shown any interest in leaving. Same with all the orphaned kittens I've adopted over the years. All happy to be under my care.
Good score, Mr Pete. $85 got you a nice ViceGrip, a useful wee vice, a drill bit and they threw in a drill press like mine! Nice. And I did enjoy having a look around Studio G. Thanks.
Another video to go with my coffee...you are really spoiling us this week Mr.Pete. Sweet!!
@mrpete222
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A number of years ago I bought a drill press at a traveling tool sale. I think it was a Central Machinery tool and I paid $150.00 for it. I swear it is exactly the same machine as you just bought. The only difference I can see is that mine came with a round table. I have gotten good use out of it over the years and while I would like to have had a good heavy duty Delta but I got what I could afford at the time and it has so far done everything I have needed it to do. with the exception of one thing-no one is ever even a little bit impressed when they see it. Oh well, maybe one of these days I will get the Kemp Smith milling machine up and running and they will be impressed with that.
Mine is 17",1 1/2 HP and it has been running for 25 years on the same speed for wood and metal.Thank you for sharing.
@mrpete222
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Very interesting video. Not all videos need to be earth shattering. I’m happy to see a smart man share his wisdom. 79 years young, keep those videos coming, will keep you young.
wow are you getting cranky... and of course you adore your daughter.. Hope you have a good turkey day... watch out for those low flying turkeys... 😀
I use to have one of them. It drilled thousands of holes 1/2”-3/4” through 1/4” and 3/8” material. Good little drill for the money.
@mrpete222
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Great deal on the drill press and I always enjoy the action thank you for showing Mr. Pete.
@mrpete222
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Always a good day when I can start the morning with a new mrpete video
I own that same drill press bought new from Sears sometime after 1989. It has worked well for me as a DIY homeowner. I love the speed range and the MT. You have nailed the strengths and weaknesses. I made an extension cord with a GFCI outlet and a foot switch to operate the motor hands free. A magnet mounted shop light from the HF place fixes the illumination issue. A magnet on the side of the head casting stores the key. I think you got Jordan a deal at $85.00.
I inherited the same exact drill press. It is in an unheated garage here in northern NY. 27° today, 24 mph wind. The table is also on with the swivel sign facing the post. When spring comes in March, April or May, I'll rotate the table. Thanks for the video.
@mrpete222
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Do you live up by Andrew Cammarata? I love his channel
@andyloebrown8250
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@@mrpete222 No, Andrew camarata is 5hrs south of my location. I like his channel also. Especially enjoyed the addition of the steel roof to has castle .
Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed.👍👀
The quill stop works when turning clock wise, to affect a lock on the quill in a desired position. To set for a down stop, put the quill in the desired position and turn the lock mechanism counter clockwise until it hits a stop and lock it. Now the quill should be free to return to the start position, but will only go down as far as the lock was set at. I agree that this is less intuitive then a traditional stop rod, but it does work. You failed to note that the lever handle next to the motor lock, is how to tighten the belt. It must have a rack in there to enable that. It also should be noted that if the press base was bolted to a larger pc. of plywood, it would be less tippy.
@mrpete222
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Thank you for a detailed and well thought out explanation of the spindle lock
I think you did okay on price and I agree that Mr. Roebuck had his backed turned when Mr. Sears agreed to this model with some of the cheep features. I have a Sears Craftsman bench press that has more cast iron in the head than your machine has as a total. And the base on mine makes your model look like a toy. But mine is a bench model so I am very limited but as a woodworker I do okay with it. My Dad was a radio and TV repair guy from 1947 until he passed away in 2016 at the age of 90. His constant complaint was the mess mice made inside radios stored in garages and sheds. They would chew up the wire insulation and pee all over like you mentioned. Good video, love the critique as well as the praise for the good things about it.
@mrpete222
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I loved your don't be nosy comment made me laugh
I have a Craftsman drill press just like that! It’s been rock solid for me.
Thats a good buy ( drill press) , So when mr pete first panned the box of tools there was a long tip lighter there ...those are all cheap wether you pay for a "quality" one or, cheap they last for about two grilling sessions.
Done well Mr Pete. $85 US can't go wrong. That’s about $127.30 Australian, I’ll have 2 please. I do like the emergency head stop switch. Always a brilliant presentation, like watching your show, keep it up. Great respect from Au.
@mrpete222
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Thank you very much mate
Mr Pete I have that exact drill press. It has served me well and keeps on serving. I purchased it new. Just a FYI, I do change belt speeds depending on what I'm doing.
@mrpete222
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Looks good to me. The sarcastic high pitch voice is priceless!
@mrpete222
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I have the 2/3 HP version of this drill press. Similar but no work light. The tension screws seem inadequate but I've not had belt-tension problems. I can usually walk the belts off without adjusting the motor position. The difficulty of changing speeds separates the farmers from the machinists, though. That switch is ugly but I pull it when I'm changing the speeds. An outlet with a wall switch and a magnetic switch on the drill press would be the best. VIDEO IDEA: Maybe you could outfit it with a float-lock vise. It is technically a repeat but lots of us watch for entertainment, too. Making a vise to go with the drill press has an aspect of family and legacy which we like. Maybe you could talk about makers marks or highlight a tool you got from your family members. Or maybe you could nickle plate the float-lock vise parts and plate some of those rusty parts. The better it looks, the better people will take care of it.
@mrpete222
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Thank you for the ideas
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Mr. Pete you done well. I have one similar for over 30 years an it has it faults but over all it get the job done. You need to pick up a hand truck at you next auction.
@mrpete222
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Actually, I do have two hand trucks
Good morning, Mr. Pete! $80.00=a good deal, in my opinion!" "1 H.P. developed" is where the motor stalls, not the actual running HP. The way it's tested gives a higher value than what the motor is actually rated by the manufacturer. Check the motor plate: a true 1 HP motor will draw 0.75 kw (750 watts). More than likely that is a 3/4 HP motor that has been exaggerated by Sears. There is at least one video I have watched where they explain how the testing is done to "hype" (exaggerate) the horsepower rating. You are right about the inadequate bases on most new drill presses. I've seen a newer high-end Powermatic that only had a 12" base! My Clausing drill press from the '60s has at least a 15 " base that weighs 66 lbs by itself. Over-all weight on that press is around 550 lbs. It was loaded on my pick-up with a forklift, and I bolted a skid to the base. Slid it across the yard and into the shop using a hand winch and logging chain. 2 guys with a hand truck aren't moving this one!
@mrpete222
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I had a clausing drill press at the high school. Extremely well-built and incredibly heavy
Great find! My Dad loved Craftsman tools and it kinda rubbed off on me. You are my new favourite shop teacher sir👍
@mrpete222
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Thank you very much. Keep watching. Lots more to come before I die
Nice find.... Has a lot of good features.
Great video as always Mr. Pete! I have a drill press like this one. I got it in a trade back in the early 70's. It evidently had fallen over because the lid was bent and never stayed closed. I finally got tired of it not closing correctly about 2 months ago and took it apart and beat it into submission. It now looks and closes like a new one. Didn't take me but 50 something years to get around to it!!! But it always worked flawlessly at drilling holes...
@mrpete222
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My first DP was a Craftsman. I think made by Emerson. In semi production work it soon developed too much play in the casting to spindle. Early '70s. Sold it and bought the "Commercial" version that has the split head allowing the spindle clearance to be adjusted. Much better. It also had a nice quill lock, depth stop & simple to adjust return spring (that has been replaced several times.) A heavy table that is a bear to raise. A tinny drive belt that slips when in the lowest speed grooves, but easy to shift. Motor tension on a pivot, very easy to use. It was sold along with my business and is still in use. Good for woodworking, not metal. It has been bolted to a large, heavy, steel plate to meet OSHA requirements.
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Nice purchase, keep the new one and make a video about cleaning it up, making new knobs, and changing speeds. I went to an outdoor auction in Rockford on November 12th and wore long underwear, hat, and winter coat. It was sleeting and needless to say my buddy and I did not stick it out to the end.
@mrpete222
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Nothing worse than an outdoor auction in the cold. It doesn’t matter how you dress, you end up sitting in the car or going home
Mr Pete thank you for this video and your very good humour. I think you got a good buy.
@mrpete222
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Mrpete, I think you made a good buy. The press has good bones and can be upgraded with a higher quality motor and a better chuck if and when needed. I greatly enjoy your videos and learn new things all the time. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Happy Holidays!
@mrpete222
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FYI some of the best machine tools made are made in Taiwan! I like the handles loose for occasional removal to suit my specific use. Don’t knock the original owner he used the tool to suit his requirements, not yours! Give Jordan your best drill press and all tooling to make it useful to him! Keep up the good work JIM ❤
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I would have bought it for that price. Seems like a really good entry-level drill press. After all, a dollar's worth a dime & $85 bucks don't even fill the gas tank.
@oddshot60
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Ain't it the truth Brother!
@mrpete222
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Actually, I got one and a half tank falls for that amount. That is a good comparison to see how worthless our money is
Wow good deal! Vice, vise grip hold down! Great deal…%) I’ve a similar unit, when it comes to moving it around the shop I walk it, pick two corners on the base and lean and turn back on forth walking it to where ever, so much better than sliding or moving with 2 wheel or cart, being so top heavy!keep up the good work Pete!
@mrpete222
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Lyle, you can never have too many Drill presses, and since you have so many drill bits......best wishes, Paul
@mrpete222
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This drill press was made by Delta for Sears. I have a 16 1/2" Delta (3/4 HP enclosed motor) that I bought new in 1997. In all the years I have used it, it works just great. But--- believe it or not--- I had never noticed the slots for the drift to remove the Morse taper chuck!!!!! Mine does NOT have the built-in work light however. Someone else pointed out the tension release lever to change the belt positions. The two thumb screws adjust motor tension to the drive step pulley. My belt guard is plastic. My table is larger and does not have the coolant slot. I mounted my press directly to the concrete floor. Only problem I've ever had was a broken return spring. New ones findable on eBay. I really HATE the quill stop/lock! Other than that, for $85 you got a HECK of a deal!
@mrpete222
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Nice video, Mr. Pete. $85 sounds ok, I bought one at a farm auction for $15. Only 2 bidders. It doesn't have the MT spindle, though. I got 2 pieces of 1/2 steel between 2' to 3' feet long and 2-3 inches wide; whatever I found in the scrap rack. Bolted to the base, it won't tip over!
@mrpete222
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Good idea to make a tip proof
1960-62, our cigar factory shop had an Atlas Clausing mill with the 3 pulleys to change speeds. It wasn't much of a problem for this new highschool graduate as the center pulley mounting was more industrial engineered. Next year went to a 20 Bridgeport shop, had trouble reaching the drawbar nut with a wrench to tighten or loosen. Had collected bearings/pulleys/longer motor mount to add a center idler my Walker Turner drill press but assisted living moved me away from home.
Hello Lyle! I have a similar drill press, labeled ¨Porsch¨ from PRC, bought about 40 years ago, bench type. When used, it vibrated everything off the table it was mounted to. Nothing out of balance but the motor was so badly wound it appeared that windings were fighting each other. Put a different motor on it and it is now a good drill. Had to modify the middle pulley mount to slide, as it was bolted down and difficult to move. I think I paid about A$125 for it and it has served me well.
@mrpete222
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I always put a wide plate steel base on these drill presses. Usually a 1/4" minimum and large enough to stand on when using it. Bevel the edge to prevent a trip hazard. Never had one tip over after doing this.
@mrpete222
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Great idea
I've had the same machine for around 30 years, and it gets used almost daily. It's held up very well and has to date required no repairs. I agree the quality is not great, but it has always done everything I asked of it, and I work on some fairly large things. I do change speeds fairly often, and it's not really to bad an operation. It's functional enough that I rarely use the BP for drilling. Thanks for the video. Mike
I enjoyed your video Mr Pete. I inherited a drill press from my uncle. It's a cheap Pro Tech made in Taiwan, but it's missing the chuck. It has a 1/2 HP motor with a single belt, it does have a light, but it isn't as nice as your Craftsman. I live about 40 minutes away from Dewitt Nebraska where the Vise Grip plant was. The town is almost dead, since the plant closed. The junk that is sold now under the Vise Grip name is just junk. John
@mrpete222
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What a tragedy when they close that vice grip factory.
That is quite a nice machine. I have the substantially same one in 16 speed, different label, manufactured in 1989, and the 12 speed, from MSC, manufactured 2005, at work,, and a friend with the identical Craftsman. I usually keep my quill belt on the lowest pulley, as that gives me sufficient speed changes for steel and aluminum over the machine capacity. (I have a couple others presses for other material and small bits) The depth stop is actually kind of nice for a lot of setups, once the lock screw is replaced with something easier to grip. Friction snug it and lower to drill depth of the desired hole, then lock it. If it isn't practical to set this way, I use a dial indicator mag based to the column. Set the stop with the bit on the work surface, raise the table drill depth using the dial indicator, then drill. LED lamp is the way to go. The 1HP motor is about 1/3HP continuous, on mine. I installed a foot pedal for the motor so I can emergency stop easily without having to swat for the switch.
@mrpete222
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Great job an another good buy.
I have a Jet Drill press that is almost identical to that one. My on/off switch is a beter design mounted in the front plastic attachment screwed to the front. Mine is also a 12 speed with the same speed denominations and adjust components but 16" with same base and quill control handle. The depth stop is different being mounted on the left side and is a verticle screw on a bracket with several nuts that can be adjusted but my motor is a cap start. The rust on mine easily came off with some chrome polish. I have seen quite a few of these with identical castings configuration but with different peripherals installed. Hope he has fun with it!
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I have the 20" version of your new DP but it's got T-slots, 3MT, 3/4" chuck, and a little bigger motor. I really like mine for the shop. You'll be happy with it
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That’s a nice find Mr Pete. Thanks for sharing!
Lyle - I'd say a good get at that price. Probably 30 years ago I owed a Delta badged drill press that was a very close clone of that, had to be from the same factory. Never did like the depth stop but it did good work for me for years. Once I fell down the rabbit hole of old American machines that one got sold and replaced with a Powermatic from the 60s. Should work great for Jordan. I fully understand helping to outfit the grandson part.
@Bob_Adkins
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I have a 30-year-old HF that looks to be from the same factory too.
@alangrawien103
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I have a Ridgid that is a clone except for the rotating table. Great for home use. Anything serious needs to go to the shop.
I have two presses just like that one. One I bought new about 1989. Both are still in good shape although my original has really been used and abused. I don’t particularly like the belt tensioning and speed adjusting system but it will have to suffice. You got a great buy in my opinion for homeowner use.
Great buy Mr. Pete. I think it was a steal at $85!
You were not cheated - thanks for sharing
I'd say not a bad score for the price. Still obvious where they cheaped out on the construction of it but overall it would be nice to have in a home garage. I bet a youtuber Squatch253 might be very interested in that Caterpillar indicator. Stay warm Mr. Pete
That was a reasonable price to pay. I have a similar drill press and it's ok. The features you pointed out were what I was looking for when I bought mine except I wanted a spit head too, I don't think that's a thing anymore. I have gotten used to the depth stop, it's quick and works both up and down just harder to do fine adjustments with. The Caterpillar/Federal dial indicator was probably sold by Caterpillar through their dealer parts departments. CAT used to sell many tools with both the CAT brand and the original manufacturers brand on them.
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Thank you for explaining about the cat tools. I know they sold a complete line of mechanics wrenches and so forth
I think it’s a great drill press, especially for the price you paid. It lacks a feature that I think is a necessity and that is a quill lock. My Walker-Turner has one and I wouldn’t buy a drill press without that feature. When setting the depth stop it’s so nice to lower the tip of the tool to the surface of the workpiece, lock the quill, set the depth stop, release the quill lock and drill away. I inherited a Rockwell that doesn’t have a lock and I really miss it.
@mrpete222
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That is exactly how I set the depth on my walker Turner
The drill press you have is basically the same machine as the Powermatic 1140F, manufacturing date 1999. I bought mine new from a woodworking store. It seems to me that it retailed for about $275. Whats different about my machine is that there is no morse taper, the chuck is 1/2", motor is 1/2HP capacitor start, and there is no work light. These were being built with additional features added or subtracted by whatever brand was having them manufactured.
@mrpete222
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Thanks
I have a craftsmans drill press. I've had it for 30 years and has never given me a bit of trouble.
The cardboard covering the window on the door, I assume is to reduce glare for the camera. Glad you have an exit sign over the door, just in case! Handy fire extinguisher, in its' place, just like I do. Nice Carharrt jacket, it's on my Christmas list but I'll probably get a tie, first time I'll wear it will be at my cremation. Oops, you caught me being nosey! Back to the drill press, very similar to my Jet. I'll go out later and check if it will go down to 250 RPM. It's not the best but it will do. If I have serious drilling, I'll go to my Bridgeport.
@mrpete222
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Very astute observation. That is exactly why I temporarily put the cardboard over the door
My wife gave me a 17 inch version of the same model brand new for Christmas many years ago. As you alluded to, I have probably never used it except at the slow speed. I have drilled 100s maybe 1000s of holes with it. Much as I hate to admit it, not a bad drill press for something not made in America. I do like the four mounting holes in the base. I threaded a bolt through each one, with a nut retainer so I can level the drill press on my uneven shop floor. Be careful with the cheaply constructed pot metal crank handle that raises the table. The handle itself will easily crack. Wish you would make some of these out of iron and sell me one (or two) Later I bought a used radial Craftsman drill press, same style, but made in America. Must be last American drill press Sears offered. It does have a larger base, but does not have four mounting holes spaced as well. Unfortunately has a smaller table which is inadequate. The base is still a little too light weight for my taste. This drill press also has the same cheaply made vulnerable table raising handle. I actually use the Taiwan press a lot more than the American one. Really do not notice any difference and a lot of the identical parts appear to be EXACTLY the same. Being larger the Taiwan press seems more sturdy. Really a shame that Sears Craftsman quality was also decided by bean counters at this point as they had good innovative design.
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Thank you for an interesting comment. Funny thing, I was also thinking about threading those holes in the base and adding leveling screws or better yet would be a three point base that wouldn’t rock.
I busted out laughing when you said don’t be nosy. Thank you for posting.
I just bought that very same model. Thanks for pointing out the Morse taper.
That drill press has some nice features I wish mine had. A Craftsman from about 1978,Even then they were putting small bases on them and mine appears to be warped slightly, I would be all over that.
Good one for a home shop. ❤
My brother in law has never had any good luck with purchases from Sears. He has always been disappointed so he hasn’t bought any Sears items in probably 40 years. On the other hand I have a wood lathe and a jig saw that my old boss bought from Sears 50 or 60 years ago, and my dad’s old craftsman table saw has found a home with my oldest nephew.
@mrpete222
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Good deal Thanks for the video
I bought a "Packard" drill press at auction last year. It looks very similar and is listed as 3/4 HP. I didn't know about the taper shank on the chuck. Mine has that as well. My chuck is a CYC 16MM, so it looks similar, too. Thanks also for the info on how to tighten the belts, I used it to make a hole in the back of my computer case and it slipped a bit. Now I know how to tighten them up. I paid a bit more for it and had to drive to Memphis, TN to get it, but I took my dad with me and we had a good drive, so I think it was worth it overall.
I think you did well Mr. Pete. My Craftsman drill press was slightly earlier than yours (mid 1980's) still quite tippy but a very handy tool in my woodworking shop. Initially used to sand the insides of arches in top sash of double hung windows I made and then used to mortise out material using a 3/8" mortising bit for the mortise and tenon joints. Very good buy. You did well.
I would say it's a decent price and a good purchase. A 13 inch Harbor Freight is $299.99 plus $20.00 for the wonderful vice! No drill bit included. Personally I'd rather have The older Tiwan drill press than the new Chinese Harbor Freight. Actually I have an older much heavier Tiwan drill press that has served me well. Had to upgrade the motor many years ago because I let the magic smoke loose with a 3/4 drill bit. But I still use it occasionally. My mill is my go to tool for drilling most of the time now.
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Regards from the UK. That has got to be better than the alternative .. hand held drill. I could be persuaded to swap. Morse taper missing from mine too.
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Define a good value for eighty five dollars, Tubalcain. Jordan should be pleased, especially having a Morris taper. You can swap the chuck and use taper bits and reamers as you mentioned.
I bought a PALMGREN drill press with a 3 hp motor, and 3/4" chuck for $ 25. It was setting outside in the weather for a couple months. It had been knocked over, the capacitor for the motor was torn off and gone, the feed handle was broken, and the top cover damaged. It appeared to have been used very little. I cleaned up the bit of rust on the column and tables, straightened the cover, replaced the broken pieces on the feed handle, replaced the missing chuck key, and installed a new capacitor. Repaired the off/on switch, repainted the top cover, and it looks/works nice. I still need to repair the digital depth read out. All together I have less than $ 75 in the drill press. Cost new is $ 1200 -- $ 1500. Just needed some inexpensive parts and some TLC.
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Sounds like you got a real bargain
Great video........ I needed the scolding for looking around your garage also. lols I think it's a great deal. A drill press for the prices of a tank of gas for your truck. And you know how long that last. Are nine drill presses really crazy???? I own more cars than that. You better whip up!!!! Have a good one Mr. Pete
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