Thank you Pastor Andy for teaching this series. I have never heard anyone teaching this teaching.... Actually I was talking to a pastor about your teachings, hopefully he will listen to your teachings because there are so many things that are new to us .The Bible speaks .... my people perished because of a lack of knowledge. This is definitely a true statement.

I can't wait to hear the rest of this series. Thank you Pastor Woods.

The work God does through your teachings is amazing Pastor. All Glory to God-He found a teacher who teaches.

This is the first time I have listened to the explanation of the Gap Theory. I tried reading G.H. Pember "Earth's Earliest Ages" but I could not understand what he was talking about! Now with your teaching today, I can see where he is coming from and read this book with more understanding. Quote from the back cover..."Pember examines the role of demonic forces in the first destruction of earth under God's judgment and compares them to the rise of spiritualism, Theosophy and Buddhist thought." But I think I will only get to reading this book if the Lord should tarry a few years! I am still trying to get through "Game of Gods" by Carl Teichrib. Your book The Coming Kingdom was pivotal to my faith journey. Thank you for your faithful ministry of the WORD. Next thing to do today is listen to today's Revelation teaching. God Bless.✝

At the risk of sounding ignorant (which I don't deny 😉) I have never heard of this theory. It looks like i haven't missed much 🤣. Thank you Pastor! I'm going with your version. Maranatha 🙏

Absolutely love these in depth teachings!

Thanks for sharing. God bless you all.

Thanks for the lesson, Dr Woods. I have a Scofield Bible and I used to believe in the Gap Theory pretty much because nobody ever explained how dinosaurs fit into scripture. It wasn't until I heard someone teaching that in order to believe that theory, you would have to believe that Death existed before Adam and Eve sinned. I've since assumed that Scofield came up with the Gap to explain the mythology fabricated by Darwinists at the time.

@CupOJoeOuttaIdaho

2 жыл бұрын

Really good point about when death was existent blows the gap theory out of the water

@jessecastellanos669

11 ай бұрын

I’m trying to understand the death thing, what does it entail?

How can the earth go from a state of complete perfection to being in a state of chaos and being formless and void without something happening inbetween.

@sigalsmadar4547

Жыл бұрын

How was it perfect before Gen 1:2?

@jessecastellanos669

11 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@sigalsmadar4547I believe by stating God created the heavens and the earth being followed up with for me less and void in its own respective sentence is believed to imply a disparity between state of the earth. The second verse doesn’t necessarily imply the events were consecutive in succession. Darkness over the surface of the deep can also be understood as a flood/change in state as the heavens contain the stars therefore darkness on the earth, all while the sun shining on the earth is thought to imply the darkness isn’t from a lack of light but rather the state of the world. I don’t know for certain though but until there’s a definitive explanation or enough evidence to point to one or the other conclusively, I’m leaving both sides open for further investigation.

This is my first time hearing the Gap theory

I thought verse 1 in Genesis serves like a title card. Verse 2 starts the movie.

I’m 75 years old,…a born again believer for 40 years, with a complete love for Jesus and a desire to live each day like the Bereans,..YET, this is the first I’ve ever heard of this Gap Theory.😳🤔🫢

I have great respect for Dr Andy’s teachings & consider him a valuable resource that the Holy Spirit uses in my learning. I am continuing on with the next 3 sessions dealing with the gap theory. I do believe in a gap theory, but not to agree with science & the fossil record. I believe the gap theory is a short period of time & I do believe in a young earth. But as I said, I have prayed for God to remove any presuppositions & I’m doing as the Bereans do. I’m accepting this with an openness of mind & I will see where the Spirit leads me : )

Many scientists have indicated that the fossil dating methods are not really scientific and made many assumptions at the onset and therefore incorrect. There have been excellent books written explaining this. Jason Lisle, a physicist, and his colleagues have written amply and in terms any intelligent person can follow. Science doesn’t actually prove an ancient earth. This gap theory seems to me to have a LOT of holes and needs many assumptions. Too much speculation to be Biblical IMO.

Great job Andy!

Satan was in Eden, so his fall had to be before that. Adam and Eve were warned of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.... No one knows how long they were in Eden before they fell, either.

@claydoyle5377

4 жыл бұрын

This entire topic seems like a detraction from the simplicity of the gospel. It is for me anyway. Maybe I'm not strong enough to research the complexities(?) As well, I've heard this man speak before. He speaks so sluggishly I lose his agenda in the theme.

@luvmytots

3 жыл бұрын

@@claydoyle5377 ive learnt soooooo much from Pastor Andy Woods over the last few months. I have come to love my BIBLE sooo much because he has made most topics super clear. GOD ETERNALLY BLESS YOU PASTOR.....LOOKING FORWARD TO MEETING YOU IN THE AIR IN RAPTURE

@sigalsmadar4547

Жыл бұрын

@@claydoyle5377 Of you can't trust in the miraculous events in the first 11 chapters of the Bible, how can you trust the miraculous events later with your eternal destination? You can change the playback speed on the video. Try it at 1.5x Pastor Andy is an excellent teacher.

@gregzbp

11 ай бұрын

Listen to bring. James Knox and what he says,, know the Bible better than anyone I've ever heard

Absolutely brilliant brilliant teaching bless you Andy

in the original 1611 KJV the word 'replenish' meant only 'to fill' it didn't/doesn't mean 'to fill again'.

@trishazechel8402

4 жыл бұрын

That was my observation as well.

@claydoyle5377

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Chauncey, 're' indicates to 'do over or again'. 'Fill' is quite different. These little twists and turns are why I returned to the authorized. As well, I remember the archaic language far better! God Bless

@claydoyle5377

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting, Chauncey. Yes. It does seem like a detraction from the simplicity of the gospel...which I need to hear every week in the congregation in order to go through the following week. The Gap theory is irrelevant the next 6 days! God Bless Peace

I appreciate a critique of this theory about the fall of Satan. The larger counsel of God certainly opposes this doctrine at many points. The most common sense being how a flood of water can kill spirit beings, or why God would set a civilization of angels unto themselves when Scripture affirms they are here to serve those who inherit salvation. And many other points.

@jessecastellanos669

11 ай бұрын

U wot m8? What is the larger council of God? What’s this business of flood water killing spirit beings?? And what do you mean by set a civilization of angels unto themselves? I haven’t heard of either one

@priscillajervey8345

4 ай бұрын

Neither have I!@@jessecastellanos669

II Peter 3;5 kinda blows the gap theory out of the water.

@TheRgordon16

4 жыл бұрын

You must not quite understand 2Peter 3, 5 because it does not blow the Gap doctrine out of the water. In fact it enhances and explains the Gap doctrine.

@jerry18291

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheRgordon16 5For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, 6'''by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water'''. 7'''But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word''', are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and [b]perdition of ungodly men. this verse is talking about two states of the earth. the first one perished, the second one which is now is preserved. Genesis 1:1&2 1In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2The earth was without form, and void; and darkness [a]was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. How can the earth go from a state of perfect completion :1 to being without form and void :2 without something happening in between. something had to happen inbetween. Thus the gap theory

@TheRgordon16

3 жыл бұрын

@@jerry18291 Exactly. That’s what 2 Peter is referring to....Genesis 1:2

@americanhighlander

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Nah, really kinda doesn’t.

@jerry18291

3 жыл бұрын

@@americanhighlander ya I kinda really does

Amen 🙏🏻

Thank-you

Are y'all in Sugar Land, Texas?

How does the "gap theory" deal with Revelation 12:7-10, where there was "war in heaven..." How does Gen1:1-2 figure in Revelation and the fall of Satan.

The main reason I have always had a problem with the "Gap Theory" is that they take conjecture after conjecture, not one of them is proven, then they take all of the conjectures and put them together in one BIG conjecture. You can't prove anything that way.

Amen

As an ex-atheist, I'm disappointed with my brethren who believe The Gospel but forsake the Creation week as a historical text and promote progressive creation, gap theory or theistic evolution and embrace millions/billions of years of geological and biological history. They think it's scientific to believe such things when in actuality it's an adoption of what is fundamentally an opposition against the Biblical frame work.

@jessecastellanos669

11 ай бұрын

You’re a bit dramatic there, forsake creation week and who are you speaking for? Sounds like you need a change of friends. Both gap theory and the genesis week theory are equally valid as Gap theory has points that doesn’t fit into one week, likewise one week is what is in the Bible. Neither can be proven and both are logical explanations and neither forsake God in any way. It’s not explicitly stated in either case therefore not in opposition to the framework. If God deemed it necessary for establishing a relationship with him, it would be described in some detail. This pastor doesn’t know in absolute terms, he is teaching what makes sense to him as he interprets it.

@bryanleehall

6 ай бұрын

Well my friend.....your comment in my opinion is 💯% spot on....

@1969cmp

6 ай бұрын

@@jessecastellanos669 ....you can take that up with The Creator and Moses. Either the Lord gave Moses the wrong info or Moses didn't hear correctly, refer Exodus 20.

Satan had to fall between when God finished creation and he talked to Eve. How much time passed between those two events?? NO ONE KNOWS??

The GAP theory people need to study Creation Science and read articles by the Creation Institute. I cannot believe how micro analysis of 2 verses gives them gap theory. It's utter nutter craziness 😂.

THANK YOU I ENJOYED IT

Sorry, the ONLY 'gap' I see is the one that the those people have in their head, you have to really cram stuff into something that does not fit

I like the JPS translation into English: v1: When God began to create the heavens the earth the earth being unformed and void with darkness over the surface of the deep and a wind from God sweeping over the water

It's like at the end of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, Cate Blanchett is telling the aliens, "TELL ME I WANT TO KNOW" and then it gets to be to much and she starts screaming, "NO MORE NO MORE", then her eyes go up in flames and her head explodes. LOL Seriously though, I think the real question is, how old is God? And how long was he hoovering for? If God had a beginning I would think it is older then 6000 years. I want to know. I can handle the truth!! However I also don't want my head exploding.

How could the WHOLE FACE OF THE EARTH BE WATERED AND MAN WAS FORMED FROM DUST? DUST as we know is waterless earth. This was my 1st confusion which to me is the MOST confusing book of the Bible when I truly started studying the Word. PS. The next is ho there were Giants on the Earth befor Noah and after. How? I hope I'm not crazy.

@amyswindle4794

3 жыл бұрын

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Hello! How do you explain the responsibility given to man to "replenish" the earth? Genesis 1 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

@truthseeker4882

4 жыл бұрын

{theWORDSareSPIRIT} The kjv has the used the word “replenish” however a quick check in the Hebrew, it says “and fill” I don’t know why the kjv has used the word “replenish” when you look at what God is telling Adam and his wife, He’s telling them to mulitiply - fill the earth - reproduce is what I’m understanding - I love the kjv but it seems they’ve used the wrong word - when I read The Hebrew its “male - mala meaning to be full to fill - 4390. male or mala ► Strong's Concordance male or mala: to be full, to fill Original Word: מָלֵא Part of Speech: Verb Transliteration: male or mala Phonetic Spelling: (maw-lay') Definition: to be full, to fil

@KISStheSON...

4 жыл бұрын

@@donh.2327 Amen! I am drawn to believe that there was a world before this "present evil world". Anything else leaves me unsettled. Scientists thrive on the thought that Christians believe in a young earth. Either way, the only truth we need to know is CHRIST whether on a young or an old earth! :)... the truth regarding the gap theory is one that we just have to wait to find out after we are gathered together to meet Jesus in the air! Peace.

@claydoyle5377

4 жыл бұрын

@@truthseeker4882 Hello TS, your response is very reasonable and helpful. I used to like the NKJ, but for the simple example to which you refered, I returned to the authorised. It is far more dependable. No research on little twists and turns necessary. Go Bless. Appreciate Your Comments!

@claydoyle5377

4 жыл бұрын

@@donh.2327 Good and clear expressive writing, Don. A few things I wonder about. 1) Why does 'darkness on the face of the deep' need to be fit into a gap theory? NO ONE knows what that means. Only God was there. Ooops. Forgot #2. Maybe continue another time (?) (I have brain injury. This occurs often) God's Best To You!

@claydoyle5377

4 жыл бұрын

@@KISStheSON... awesome!

The Bible also states that Lucifer was in the garden before iniquity was found in him! This makes the gap theory impossible!!

When you are relating all these gaps in the Bible John 21 vs 25 comes to my mind. It states: And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen. Since this is talking about what Jesus did in the Gospels, could it also be talking about what God did in the Old Testament as well? After all God/Jesus are One.

@thecreatoristhetruth5623

4 жыл бұрын

Most of those can be found in the other books that they purposefully removed from the Bibical text. THE CREATOR BLESS

@claydoyle5377

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Trisha, I think the the John verse refers to Jesus alone. If you read the previous portions of the passage it is all about Jesus. As well, Jesus and the Father are one, but separate in activity i.e., the Father did not walk on water, go through crucifixion, rise from death, or ascend to heaven. And it is Jesus who will return for YOU! Blessings and Peace!

@patedwards8844

2 жыл бұрын

@@claydoyle5377 no, he has a point. A person would have to be dense to think that everything about God is written in the bible & as great as God is, it would take an infinite # of material to detail His doings. His ways are past finding out.

I prefer the gap theory because of the first mention principle (among other things) and how God restores all things including broken man: the Holy Spirit hovers and convicts us Jn 16.8, God speaks Rm 8.30, Jesus the light of the world shines on us, division occurs 1 Thes 5.23, life appears with subsequent growth then fruit comes forth. This is His pattern beginning with our destroyed planet then with our flooded one Genesis 8 and then in John Chapter 1 where we are restored. Then is the purpose for our creation in the first place which is to reign and rule over the earth in Satan's place (why he hates us so much) on a planet that must sustain life. Satan could not fall after man's creation that makes no sense. Just a layman's thoughts, God Bless.

@johnhoffman8203

4 жыл бұрын

It's not about the meaning of a specific word it's about the consistency of how God deals with His creation. Take the example of blood (without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin) that began in the garden when Adam and Eve were covered by animal skins, thru Abel's sacrifice, thru the tabernacle sacrifices, thru Jesus Christ Himself on the cross. I believe a lot of Bible scholars would disagree with you including Pastor Woods.

I don’t consider it a gap when a section describing Jesus details things about Him from both 1st and 2nd comings in the same place. I could choose any person in history, pretend I’m working from a date prior to their birth and say this person will come in this manner and do these things and have these traits and cause these reactions and combine things they will do in their early life and in their later life and there is no problem with that; why should it be called a gap at all? As long as those things eventually happened you would be able to look back and say that was prophetic, all those things did describe that person. Nothing is stated that says at what point after He comes things will happen. That doesn’t necessarily need to be called a gap. It describes Him and things He’ll do. Period. Nothing more or less. He is still alive, He will still do these things stated in the Bible, He just hasn’t yet.

@claydoyle5377

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting and honest thought and expression, miss 13. (You are a good writer)

I'm don't think much of secularism, never paid much attention in school as it relates to Darwin's theory of evolution, neither did I know much of the scientific fact of the old earth or the fossil records. Over the years of course we all have more awareness of the science community in opposite to GOD of the Bible. I'm a believer Jesus Christ is GOD, and that the Bible is 100% Truth. I'm not here to dispute the differences in the transliterations of the many versions of the Holy Bible. I do not agree with the premise that there are some 60+ missing books of the Bible either. I am a 100% believer in Creation and I am a 100% in the Gap theory as it is know. There is too much evidence pointing to the fact of a period of time between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2. For instance where did the waters come from that the earth was standing in and out of in Genesis 1:2? How and why was and did the earth become formless and void? The LORD has not revealed all of the hidden mysteries belong to GOD.

Clarence Larkin in his fantastic book : Dispensational Truth has graphic illustrations of the Gap Theory. I love this book but highly disagree with Gap Theory. Thank you Andy Woods for addressing this theory. Once again man refuses to believe what God states simply and redefines scripture to fit a theory. Overcomplicating scripture is man's way.

Only thing I would say is, The churches in Rev. Are not the Body/Church. They are the scattered Jews in Gentile nations. The body is gone . All Rev. Is to the Jews in the 70th week.

@icejiujitsu1

Жыл бұрын

Paul was the only one writing to the Body of Christ

I believe James Knox is right on the money!! It's all in the Bible, just need to listen to someone who knows it really well

Regarding the Gap theory. This is theory, so I will add some thoughts of my own as food for thought, which I have not come across in the comments I have read so far. We do not know how God spoke the Universe into existence. It could be very old and to us could appear to have happened like a Big Bang. We just do not know. The Earth could have existed before God used it to create the environment suitable for man to live on. That was his objective to create man as the pinnacle of his creation and to have a relationship with. Was the Earth part of a solar system, or did not make or rearrange a sun and a moon to make a solar system. We are told he made the sun and moon for "times and seasons" and to give light by day and night. We know the sun is important for heat, but that detail is not given in the creation story. Where the record says; "he made the stars also", this could mean the "wandering stars", which we know are planets in our solar system. It is fascinating that God used the stars and planets also as signs and as the psalmist wrote; "the heavens declare the Glory of God" and indeed, the heavens continue to declare. It is a study on its own to see the story being told in the constellations and wandering stars. So did God make the planets there and then, or did he use what was already in existence to make up our solar system? We cannot answer these questions, and the answer is not that important. We should be willing to accept from what we see around us as evidence of a Creator. I think science and the discovery of DNA, and the coded structure it contains, is evidence to support a Creator rather than hap-hazard evolution that cannot form the complex proteins in order to bring about life. We know nothing of the era before the Great Flood. Dinosaurs could have co-existed with man. Also, that period could account for the megalithic structures we find all over the earth which we do not have an explanation for. We know nothing of the capability of those generations, which ultimately became so corrupt, God wiped them out. Whatever technology they were using, we have no evidence of; only possible artifacts that man theorizes about. In the end, the matter comes down to faith, that God created this Earth and man upon it. We have to have faith God will keep his promise of his Kingdom to come and his glory filling the whole earth. It is essential to believe in God and his only begotten son and only by grace we are to receive eternal life at the resurrection; of which we have the reassurance and historical evidence that God raised Jesus from the dead. Thousands of years ago, for all the wisdom and wealth Solomon had, he concluded the following; (Ecc 12:13) Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

@claydoyle5377

4 жыл бұрын

David Monk 2nd chapter

Exodus 20:11 KJV.... when satan was created.

KJV bible says the heaven and the earth....heaven being singular

Notice how he is quoting a lot of scriptures to show why the Gap doctrine is taught and yet he seems to dismiss them. Which shows me he is only interested in holding on to his interpretation and not interested in the truth of the scriptures. Scriptures and Science are in agreement when teaching the Gap interpretation. But when holding to a young earth viewpoint, science and the scriptures contradict each other. Therefore it is the INTERPRETATION of men science contradicts; not the scriptures themselves. And scientists are also guilty of misinterpreting the fossil records as well. For life did not evolve.

What I am about to explain will not be accepted by many, but from all my years of study and reading God's word, the following is my belief and understanding. I can only appeal to you that you "rightly divide the word of truth" in order to understand what the truth of the Bible is. Please examine my remarks with what the Bible says and form your own conclusions. First of all, I have to say; this man's ideology is no more than man's theory and as such is the thinking of the Serpent. He fails to understand the literary style of the Bible and takes as literal things which are figurative or metaphorical. From a complete study of the Serpent it can be seen to represent human thought. That is what the story of Eve is about. The serpent is one aspect of what describes the "carnal mind" as told by the Apostle Paul. The carnal mind is the one thing in all of God's creation that is enmity with him. Revelation 12 identifies the Serpent/Devil/Satan as the same. The Dragon represents a human organization, hence that organization is carnally minded, in opposition to God. Whenever the terms are used, they for the most part are personification. This is a literary style in order to make a simple picture-story. I suggest whenever you read the terms/titles Devil/Satan/Serpent you look for the human connection and identify the human mind at work. Jesus tells us the origin of all sin; it comes from within each one of us. James likewise explains the outworking of the thoughts of the mind leading to sin. Jeremiah tells us; "the heart (mind) is deceitful above all else". With these thoughts in mind, then go and consider all references to the Devil/Satan/Serpent and how they relate to human thought and action. Regarding God's Holy Angels, this man is again not understanding the literary style of the Bible and confusing figurative language for literal. For example; Isaiah 14 and 23 are speaking about the King of Babylon and the King of Tyre respectively. Read the whole chapters and understand the context. These passages have nothing to do with fallen angels; especially God's Holy Angels. To understand whether angels are human or Holy Angels, this can only be understood by examining the context. From all my reading and understanding the word of God, God's Holy Angels cannot. Human angels can sin. Both Peter and Jude are speaking of human angels (Korah, Dathan, and Abiram who rebelled against Moses - a well known story). From the words of Jesus, he says that God's Angels are immortal. He also tells us the Angels do God's will, and elsewhere we read they are "ministering spirits". If God's Angels can sin and they are immortal, that makes them immortal sinners; that has to be an oxymoron. The promised Kingdom of God to be on Earth will not have immortal sinners. Those resurrected and given immortality will have the same nature as Jesus has been given and we know that Jesus can no longer be tempted to sin. To speak well of God is not to believe his Angels were created to sin. It is us humans that have been created with a freedom to choose whether to obey God or not. It is only by God providing his own Son, born of a virgin and Jesus being guided from a very early age that his mission was to do the will of God, that Jesus successfully overcame the carnal mind and did not yield to it, thereby defeating "the Devil" because he did not earn "the wages of sin". Therefore, God being true to his word, had to raise Jesus from the dead. Only by the victory of Jesus and by God's grace, are we given the same victory at the resurrection. Please head the warning of James and do not err on these subjects; Jas 1:12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. Jas 1:16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.

@claydoyle5377

4 жыл бұрын

David, why would you presume to use this venue to display an entire commentary? Write your 'vast knowledge' in a personal commentary and have it published! There are so many like you who, rather than do the serious, hard work of developing your own publication, you roam around the internet with your supposed lengthy years of study and display yourself as a professerly image and use a venue which has already been established. Being as 'knowlegable' as you believe you are, DEVELOPE YOUR OWN work in YOUR OWN VENUE rather than expecting unsuspecting readers to plow through the your theories. I've been a Christian a long time as well (50 years) big deal! I am so tired of those of your mind set who believe they have special understanding! Take a break from your self importance and sing a lullaby to your Savior. Try to recall who you are before him. I'm sorry to be so blunt. You are my brother and if I have been unkind please forgive me. (Doing my best with a brain injury!) clay doyle

@bramleycookingapple

4 жыл бұрын

@@claydoyle5377 I think you have formed the wrong impression of me, but if that is how you see me, so be it. God is my judge and that is all that counts. I like to speak well of God and as I now listen to these videos on KZread and the comments that follow, I feel is it is necessary to point out my alternative point of view. If anyone wants to explore the subject of Satan/Devil/Serpent further, I will gladly do so and use scripture to support my argument. I speak with my brethren on this subject and many think as you do, especially about the Serpent that spoke with Eve as being literal. Many have not actually considered the subject in depth and take the story at face value and do not realize the moral problems a literal serpent raises. Since this is not a doctrinal matter on which salvation depends, I agree to differ and leave it at that. I can only leave the subject for others to study and take into account what I have said. Unless the subject is seriously studied and every instance of Satan/Devil/Serpent is understood in its proper context, and all references fit together and show God's word is not contradictory. I find many of the comments made about video talks on this subject contradict God's word. You might think my post was long, but how can a subject as difficult as this be explained in a sound-bite? I just ask you in brotherly love to consider the points I have made and point out my error using scripture to back up your argument. Your brother-in-Christ. David

@claydoyle5377

4 жыл бұрын

@@bramleycookingapple Well. I'm sorry David. And please forgive me for speaking in a personal manner rather than simply matter-of- - fact expressing the difficulty for myself reading more lengthy posts. I have written lengthy posts myself. Not of a theological fashion, but personal. Please forgive me and I hope that anyone who read my response will read my retraction. I wish you good days!

@bramleycookingapple

4 жыл бұрын

​@@claydoyle5377 Thanks for your reply. You have helped me consider shortening my posts on the topic of the Devil/Satan/Serpent. For anyone who is seeking truth and to fully understand the word of God; I suggest reading the following verses Jeremiah 17:9; Mark 7:21-23; James 1:13-16 and then apply the principle to see how the (deceitful) human heart is behind the Bible's literary use of devil/satan/serpent. God bless.

I just don't like someone trying to explain something they don't believe, either you speak against pr for. This was a boring.

@lizlevangie859

3 жыл бұрын

John Oliver , his role in this teaching is playing “ the devil’s advocate” so to speak. Basically giving you two rules of thought and the reasonings behind each. Leaving it up to you. I appreciate this rather than “this what I believe and all else is rubbish) kind of teaching.

you are wrong

Absolutely brilliant brilliant teaching bless you Andy