The wee white erf pulling the waltzer truck and the guys changing drivers still moving brilliant

Take me back to those fabulous days

Used to love watching the vehicles pulling on at our local fair in the 50s.My favourites were a couple of ex WD AEC Matadors.Both of these were owned by the same family.Both had large boards on the cab roof "CAUTION PULLING THREE TRAILERS"Great vehicles and great days.Many thanks.

My husband Andy Lewis, was driving this, told me about this years ago, Was amazed when I came across it. Brian, and Steve Basset were there with him.Colin Devay Pulled them out of it. Exellent.

@1whamster

4 жыл бұрын

Hope they’re all well, the big guy looks at least 6’6” he’d probably push that truck up the hill in his own and the little guy ( by comparison) finally made it into the cab 🚛

@jasonlowley5093

3 жыл бұрын

My hats off to these lads

nice to see the old atki in action along with two other british marques no longer either making Lorries trucks and vans and come to that buses as foden and leyland did, poss a tiger or leopard, love the sound of that gardner- real throaty and sadly missed,

That’s the way to do it 👍(old school) can’t beat it

I don't know whether you still get on uchoob as this footage is 10 years old!!!. BUT I LOVE IT!! If you have any more PLEASE PLEASE get it uploaded, anyhow thanks andy. Liverpool UK

Lovely to see this lorry in action as I've seen it over the years

Waltzer boys last to get pulled down last to pull on great footage!!!

@chrisdurant4627

2 жыл бұрын

Who rid you travell we, gaff lad,

@chrisdurant4627

2 жыл бұрын

Who made all the lolleeee,

Good action.112 hp is not much today!

A beautiful truck and rig 👍

Looked like the Benny hill show

When i was a kid in the early 60's i used to love looking at all the old English show wagons Guy Scammel ect most have gone now sadly and been replaced with Volvo's and such like as we have no British wagons anymore.

That truck has got some power.

That is fairground at its best proper fairground lorry and centre

Fair enough i understand, but to guard against stalling and give the old girl enough power to crest the steep hill, i still have that cut down 6x4 ERF LV Genny Wagon coupled on the front with a solid bar for extra power and traction. I live at Forest Green Nailsworth at the top of a very steep hill used by heavy lorries, and steeper than the one the Atkii stalled on,. Several years ago a 6x4 ERF B Series Artic owned by a traveling fair like yours stalled on the steepest narrowest part of Spring Hill. and a danger spot, 350 of Clessie Cummins Best Ponies and the Fuller Roadranger in Grandma(Crawler) failed to move her coupled to a tri- axle trailer loaded with some sort of ride . Luckily another Lorry, a C Series ERF 8x4 Genny Wagon owned by the same travelling fair had gone up earlier towing a large living van. She was uncoupled from the van then carefully reversed down the narrow road, a bar coupled on and with the combined power of an L10-250 and NTE-350 Cummins the B Series Crested the hill with no further problem .

My friends and family the Rowlands good as gold lovely people always in life

The trusty erf there to save the day

That model of Atkinson with the wider radiator like this one , would have had a Gardner 6LX 150 or an AEC 11,3 150BHP if he had this in bottom gear it should still climb that hill.

@billalbion

3 жыл бұрын

I would agree, think he was stopped on hill and to high a 1st gear to start again.

@wharris302

3 жыл бұрын

@@billalbion no. They're just awfully underpowered no matter what gearing it has. All old british heavy vehicles are. Trucks, buses, all beyond underpowered. However they will get you where you're going. Albeit very slowly and make sure there are no hills.

@billalbion

3 жыл бұрын

@@wharris302 what nonsense, how can you eliminate hills. Gearing allows low powered heavy motors the ability to climb hills. Foden 4 speed box had a extra crawler 1st and two reverse gears, high and low. If the Atki had a 2 to 1 drop box it would go up almost any hill.

@wharris302

3 жыл бұрын

@@billalbion if it just had a proper engine that wasn't underpowered as hell it wouldn't need special gearing for ROAD use. It obviously cannot climb hills as proven by this video! It's 1st gear is 5mph or so, if that's too tall, then it's hopeless anyway.

Question,,, please, did they have a crawler box onem,, ?

Good old ERF to the rescue…she ll pull it ❤

He's not deadly heavy, only lack of power and too high a first gear failed him. It will be a 6lw 8.4 litre Gardner about 112 BHP and only 350 lbs ft of torque, not a lot for 25 or 30 tons gross. 1968 saw the 6LW make 20bhp per cylinder at1700rpm and 381 lbs ft of torque, still not a lot. Gardner would not move and develop a turbo engine and got left behind.

@samgallet282

5 жыл бұрын

Pour les

@exb.r.buckeyeman845

3 жыл бұрын

Didn’t Gardener produce the 6lx with 150hp, not a lot more but an improvement.

@billalbion

3 жыл бұрын

@@exb.r.buckeyeman845 the 6LX was introduced about 1959/60 making 150bhp @1700rpm. The big difference was torque 485lbs ft @ 1050rpm. That old Atkinson would have the 6LW with the figures above. Plus a 5 speed gearbox with a 1st gear ratio of about 6.5 / 7 to 1. A range change box 1st gear would be almost double that enabling a higher diff ratio to be used successfully.

@exb.r.buckeyeman845

3 жыл бұрын

@@billalbion Thanks for the stats, I was an AEC mechanic starting in 1965, the first tilt cab I saw was 1967/68, made life much easier.

@lametraserillos1

3 жыл бұрын

english autos with high powerfull engines like aston martin,bugatis,bentleys,rolls, etc and put 112 hp for move 30 tons ?? jeje 1968 ok, but no excuse for 8.4 litres diesel at 112 hp ... its a engineering joke ...

old girl probably only got 120 bhp. And designed to gross at 24 tons lol. Must be well over 30 with that lot its pulling 😂 no wounder she couldn't set back off

what was it like to work on the waltzer?

@petemullen842

3 жыл бұрын

If you’re still Interested done nine years on this ride Hard work Low pay surrounded by A lot of badtempered gaffers, they were only happy when they were raking the money in when it rained and they weren’t taking any money best to keep out of their way they could be nice and they could be absolutely badtempered people, wouldn’t recommend the job.

@chrisdurant4627

2 жыл бұрын

@@petemullen842 ye well said pete,,,, very greedy,,, very,

Brilliant to see these old vehicles still working for a living ;) How long ago was this filmed?

@chrisdurant4627

2 жыл бұрын

Ques, please,, would they have a crawler box, in em, ?

@AlejjSi

Жыл бұрын

There is the new rounded Corsa, so it must have been 1993+

@fatlad5090

11 ай бұрын

​@@chrisdurant4627not many did in the 40s 50s. Before it became standard

@tommyd4829

10 ай бұрын

I d say 93,94 ….paighton I think

I agree with Billalbion, that poor L Series Atki 8 wheeler had her work cut out dragging the three axle trailer up that steep hill on a straight five speed David Brown box , there is only so much abuse a 6LW Gardner will take before one hundred twelve overworked Patricroft Ponies scream out enough is enough!!! . First gear is too tall, so iid guessed when new to her original owner the wagon was put on semi fast trunk work with a flat bed body, and specified with taller gearing. it is all down to bad planning , by Anderson&Rowland staff, they shouted have known this part of the route taken by the Atki, would be difficult and challenging. Me i would have collared that nice 6x4ERF A series Genny Wagon with the short stroke 250 iron lung Cummins, hitched her to the Atki with a solid bar, not a bit of your mother,s washing line, then attempt to climb that steep hill.

@dodgemgreaser

5 жыл бұрын

The Atki has navigated that hill many many times over the years - what you dont see on the video is that it had to stop on the hill as the driver of the lorry in front stalled their lorry. At that point on that part of the hill there was no way the Atki was going to pull away again.

@wharris302

5 жыл бұрын

the first gear is like 8mph, if thats still too tall then that engine is seriously underpowered, what a massive embarrassment these trucks are to Britain. Gutless shite

@johntanswell4809

3 жыл бұрын

@@wharris302 you know that this is how it started this is the history of your transport industry, and as the saying goes wait until you walk a mile in another mans shies before you make comment

@johntanswell4809

3 жыл бұрын

Shoes

For some reason he brakes on the incline ? Why it was climbing OK until that !then cant get away

rather tired this old vintage truck !

What a huge fucking embarrassment old british trucks are

@terrancebubbatrucks

Жыл бұрын

How is it embarrassing when there still be used ?

@wharris302

Жыл бұрын

@@terrancebubbatrucks Presumably being used to go down hill and that's it? As clearly the small task of a small incline is too much to ask for this raft.

@terrancebubbatrucks

Жыл бұрын

@@wharris302 that doesn’t make no sense but not really a small incline as the roundabout leaves you with no run up it would be interesting to see something like a p270 Scania with the same weight in its back towing the set up how that would cope I get there not powerful but there not embarrassing, when trucks of today can’t make it to 10 year old, trucks now are JUNK!

@wharris302

Жыл бұрын

@@terrancebubbatrucks a good truck doesn't need a run up. As proven by the ERF

@terrancebubbatrucks

Жыл бұрын

@@wharris302 fair point but if you watch the video it does sound like the driver lifts off the pedal before it runs out of steam I understand it’s slowing down but you can hear it Reving faster than idle then it stops and foots on the break but my point is there not embarrassing it’s impressive it must be 30 years old in the video it’s done it’s work then been retired then it’s been put to work on the fair it’s prolly running overloaded there impressive trucks, this modern shite won’t be running at 30 years old they will of been made into Heinz bean cans and toyotas... well the chassis at least there all plastic now

Usual fairground shit.