Thank you, very interesting and well explained

@iqbalbadruzaman5576

5 жыл бұрын

Hi armin ,im subsribed your youtube chanel ,can you makes a vidio how to hold horsebow on your way?

Bravo! Thank you very much for this wonderful interesting lesson, I'm a Traditional Recurve Archer in Italy

@abdulkabza

8 ай бұрын

Thank you for your interest and feed back!

Great educational video. You are one of the few who teach us about the techniques. Thanks. Keep it up.

This is indeed very, very interesting and You are a great master of the art, Sir! I never before thought about using some other anchor point than my earlobe.

Thank you, Murat!

Thanks Murat, your videos are massively helpful. Had my first go at sideways twist Khatra outdoors at the club today & it all went surprisingly well, thanks to you & Armin Hirmer & Justin Ma. We'll have a few people shooting thumb draw soon lol 😁

Excellent video as always Murat!

Concentration dedication and strength man ! I can open real Ottoman bows now ! no problems !

Great. Yours, sir, are the best teaching videos out there. Very informative and practical. Especially for a person without a teacher. 🙂👍🇨🇦

@abdulkabza

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Very interesting and informative video. Thank you for taking the time to include English language section.

I love your teaching videos. Traditional archery is very dinamic. Thanks

@abdulkabza

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your interest!

Wow! Love this form of archery. Going to incorporate this level of flexibility into my training. Thanks for posting this. Found myself watching the lead hand as well, great khatra!!

Thanks a lot guys.

Thank you.

Thank you!

I Like your Instruction Style I look forward to each and every Video Because you not only explain, You bring the Instruction, (to life), into reality. Thank you for your Teaching. I hope to get, my first, Turkish Re-curve That will be my first bow ever in the future. I Love Everything about The Turkish Recurve Bow over all the other's from all over the East. I also Hope to Learn how to Create The real Turkish Re-curve's starting in the Summer next year. Again Thank you for your time Teaching the World about this Great Sport. Bob J Jackson, Papillion, Nebraska.

Mashaallah very informative video

Very well Murat,

Great video

@abdulkabza

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Good video. I agree.

Muy interesante

Hocam ağzınıza sağlık .

Very good!! VERY GOOD!!!

Excelente!👌👍

Thank you for sharing. Amazing master archer, blessed by God.

well explained, teşekkürler ederim kardeşim

@abdulkabza

4 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Good video

Cool !

Complimenti..veramente bravo..grazie

Where I can participate traditional Turk archery shooting ?

Can you give me example vidio how to hold the bow ,with yours way?

Thank you for the video. Do you have any recommendations for an 80 pound Turkish style bow? I know Grozer makes one that goes that high in weight but are there better ones?

@abdulkabza

4 жыл бұрын

High-poundage laminated bows are not that durable. If you can effort, go for an organic composite. Tuncay Keskin (Keskin Osmanlı yayları on facebook) would be a good address.

Very interesting video, thanks! They must have been quite strong to be changing drawing techniques with those 110+ lb bows they were using for war.

@abdulkabza

5 жыл бұрын

I doubt it. Thumb release was used by the warriors of the professional armies of East. They practiced quite well, with persistancy and dedication. Even I can handle 80+pound bows easily at my age, which I believe was too old for ancient times to be an active and functional warrior. So, they might've been quite in control of 100+ pound bows, even from different anchor points.

@dgriswold93

5 жыл бұрын

@@abdulkabza Hi Murat, you must have misread my comment. I was saying they WERE strong.

@abdulkabza

5 жыл бұрын

@@dgriswold93 Yeah! Sorry for careless reading. You are right!

You flip the bow sideways and forward after release, does this allow you to use a wider variety of arrows spine-wise? To be more concrete: can you shoot arrows which wouled be too stiff for the bow with "normal" release and would fly to the left or right depending on which side of the bow you are resting the arrow? Or can you even ignore arrow spine (as long as it is not too weak and breaks) and shoot very stiff arrows?

@abdulkabza

5 жыл бұрын

Spine issue is not completely illegible w thumb release but you can handle a very wide spectrum of shafts with this lateral twist of the bow. The classical Turkish hatra, which is the forward tilting of the bow,does effect the dynamic spine as well,but not as much as the twist.

Excellent video as usual Murat A tutoring video about khatra would be greatly received I am struggling with this and most explaintion do not help or I am unable to follow correctly Again a superb post

@abdulkabza

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! There is a video mine about hatra and the related arrow dynamics already. Would you like to have another one with more technical details?

@glennc1961

5 жыл бұрын

@@abdulkabza Thank you for your reply Murat Both hatra videos have been very informative and explains very well the importance of the left-hand when using thumb release. A "fools guide" or step by step instruction of left upper limb biomechanics would be of great as I can see the movement of the bow but am unsure how to do this and at what exact point of thumb release to start.

@abdulkabza

5 жыл бұрын

@@glennc1961 It is directly related to hoe the grip is grasped. In old treatises there are 3, 4 and sometimes 5 gripping techniques have been mentioned but unfortunately, they are named but rarely described. I did a biomechanical study with academics in sports sciences and evaluated two of these grip-techniques together with the related hatra styles. So, hatra is a natural outcome of how you grasp and push/torque the bowgrip.

@glennc1961

5 жыл бұрын

This is where I beleive I may go wrong. I come from shooting western style grip and draw with english longbow, but recently have swapped to thumb draw with turkish thumb ring. I am just about getting used to using a thumb ring and am going to lengthen my draw to my earlobe today at the range. But with western style grip you hold very loose with Index finger, do you use firm grip with thumb draw archery? Unfortunately no one shoots this way that I know so struggle to get the right form when shooting Any tips would be greatly receives

@abdulkabza

5 жыл бұрын

@@glennc1961 the thumb and index fingers of the bowhand shud be loose while the rest hold the grip firnly. These three fingers either give a torque to the grip or push it forward so that the bow turns outwards on is vertical axis or tilts forward during release

So with Memluke, ottoman and Turkish archery, the thumb ring touches the earlobe right. Because I would love to do a video on this. I just got done shooting yesterday with the Anchor point the thumb ring on the earlobe and the tip of the arrow touching my hand. And I literally shot a 8 inch group at 40 meters after watching this and trying it.

@abdulkabza

Жыл бұрын

Niiiice!

@AllofArchery

Жыл бұрын

@@abdulkabza so is that the official way to do memluke archery. The thumb ring touching the earlobe.

@abdulkabza

Жыл бұрын

@@AllofArchery Yes, indeed!

@AllofArchery

Жыл бұрын

@@abdulkabza AWESOME 😎. ITS such a super accurate style. It’s also super fast.

hi at 1:39 i get a little confused , the caption refers to mughals being turkish military elite . but i thought you said mamluk (sp) in the audio . is there mughal refrences in the treaties? thks, liked the video, as i always do . not quibbling just confused ,since there is some over lap between mamluk(sp) warrior caste,( which served so long.) and the mughal empire which is a blending of mongol n turkic cultures with indian subconntinent . cheers

@abdulkabza

5 жыл бұрын

There are referrals to both Mamluk and Mughals in the video. Mughals had ethnic relations with Turks and Mongols but the Turkish cultural influence should be considered as being dominant as can be seen clearly in Baburnamah, the memories of Babur Shah himself. He mentions sending a falcon to invaders as a diplomatic way of threating, and calls it a Turkish custom ("as it has always been done when Turkish land was invaded by others"). Another very good proof is that the text is written in Chaghatay dialect of Turkish, also known as "Eastern Turkish". Although there are no archery treatises from Mamluks, at least not to my best knowledge, Baburnamah reveals some technical aspects of bowhooting, like that of a lower anchor. And that was the point that I referred to in the video.

@kmarchery

5 жыл бұрын

@@abdulkabza Thks.

Teşekkürler. Bu arada Murat abi sana bıyık çok yakışıyor bence sadece bıyık bırak.

Hmmm now im curious and going to see if shooting from my chest or eye make a difference in my accuracy.

@abdulkabza

4 жыл бұрын

With the same configuration of scapulae and back muscles it requires a bit practice only.0

For earlobe and moustache level, Does the right hand have to stick or touch the cheek or earlobe to give the best results?

@abdulkabza

5 жыл бұрын

For consistancy and accuracy yes...

@deninuralam9704

5 жыл бұрын

@@abdulkabza thank you so much :) Hopefuly You make video how to grip the bow properly and bow arm position :)

@jake4194

3 жыл бұрын

I usually wind up hitting my ear or face lol I need to practice this now

When pulling to the earlobe, should anything actually touch the earlobe physically? Or does it mean just "to the level of the earlobe"?

@abdulkabza

4 жыл бұрын

For beginners it is better to touch ir with the thumbring

@AA43560

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you@

Hocam merhaba. Ben yay seti aldım ve kendimce atışlar yapıyorum. Fakat şöyle bir sorun var. hedefe nişan aldığımda ok her seferinde hedefin sağına gidiyor. Ben de bu yüzden hedefe değilde hedefin sol tarafına atıyorum ancak öyle vurabiliyorum. Bunun sebebi nedir? Teşekkürler

@abdulkabza

4 жыл бұрын

Temel okçuluk eğitimi aldınız mı?

I would like to buy a Turkish bow, very flexible and powerful, like yours and would be grateful if you could share some links of where to buy and specification, I am based in the UK. Thank you.

@abdulkabza

3 жыл бұрын

Ypu may choose from the products of two good bowyers Tuncay Keskin and Onur Şimşek. şimşek bows are all-resin while Keskin makes both laminated and all-resin models. Some of their models are tested and have been in use in our group Tirendaz. Test videos are available in this channel. They both ship to UK. Regards.

@michaelsingh5053

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. What pound draw weight is your bow?

@abdulkabza

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelsingh5053 This one I used in the.video is 56#@28

@michaelsingh5053

3 жыл бұрын

@@abdulkabza Thank you

Atış yaptığımda yayın kirişi kabzayı tutan koluma çarpıyor bunu düzeltmek için kabzayı belli bir açıyla tuttuğumda ise isabetli atış yapamıyorum buna ne tür bir çözüm önerirsiniz

@abdulkabza

3 жыл бұрын

Kabza tutuşunuz, kabza tarafındaki omzunuzun pozisyonu (aşağıda olmalı) ya da şast elinizin bırakış sırasında yüzünüzden çok uzaklaşmasıyla ilgili olabilir. Atışınızı profilde ve sağ omuz arkasından videoya kaydedin ve bu söylediğim kısımlarda hata yapıp yapmadığınıza bakın.

@battalgazi7414

3 жыл бұрын

@@abdulkabza Deneyeceğim teşekkürler.

For me pulling to the earlobe is 32". Or very close to it. But it's hard to find a Turkish bow that pulls that far. They are mostly 28" or 29" unfortunately. Why is that?

@abdulkabza

3 жыл бұрын

Simply because everybody thinks that all Ottoman bows were short. They weren't. According to Dr. Yücel the lengths of the bows in Topkapı Palace Museum vary 88 to 135 cm. For archers who drew very long there were Crimean Tatar bows which shud be considered among the bows of the empire. They have not been used by Tatars only but manufactured in Istanbul and perhaps used in Central Asia too.

@gizmonomono

3 жыл бұрын

@@abdulkabza I didn't know that. Interesting. Thank you 😁

@jake4194

3 жыл бұрын

How tall are you? My earlobe is like 29" and I'm 5'10" lol

@gizmonomono

3 жыл бұрын

@@jake4194 186cm. I think that's 6'1"

Beautiful girls and archery. It doesn't get better than that :D

@abdulkabza

4 жыл бұрын

😁

Benim atışlar hep sağa gidiyor neden olabilir acaba

@abdulkabza

2 жыл бұрын

Hep sağa gidiyorsa daha sola doğru atın.

Excellent video. Please refrain from speaking over the call to prayer. Salaams from UK x

Why the whole world excluding germans call our ancestors „ottoman“ and not „osman“ ?😂

@abdulkabza

5 жыл бұрын

Hungarians call us Osman too. I thibk Pols as well. It is about the cultural exchange and common past. Other than that, Osman spelled differently in Arabic and the "s" is a sound somewhere between s and t.

@striple6752

5 жыл бұрын

abdulkabza where in turkey the archery tradition is still alive ? In Antakya i never saw some archers.

@abdulkabza

5 жыл бұрын

@@striple6752 There are numerous clubs almost everywhere.