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@thenight527

2 жыл бұрын

Would it be possible to do a video on bill sykes from the 1960s oliver musical. I would love that 🙏😊❤️

@Batt-man

2 жыл бұрын

When You ends you should do Joe

@simonthecatman209

2 жыл бұрын

Bill would be good video

@bw655

2 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video on Jason Voorhees? As a Friday the 13th fan id love to see that

@SunGodNika-bi2jr

2 жыл бұрын

Anayzing Evil: Khan Noonirn Signh

I never considered him the villain when I was a kid and now that I’m an adult I definitely see him as the victim

@Spongebrain97

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah same here. The plot is essentially a replicant runs away from slavery and is chased down

@Edax_Royeaux

2 жыл бұрын

There's really no excuse for gouging out the eyes of your father just because he couldn't grant you immortality. His father welcomed him into his home, told him what he needed to hear and was brutally murdered for it.

@1bridge11

2 жыл бұрын

Jamal (The Vile Eye) is trying to find evil characters that aren't really evil.

@mbryson2899

2 жыл бұрын

@@Edax_Royeaux His father betrayed him from birth, sold him into savagery and slavery for profit without a backward glance. Tyrell was the evil one, through and through. He got what he deserved. J.F. Sebastian helped facilitate the evil, he even referred to replicants as equivalent to his toys in a sideways kind of way. He earned his demise, too. Same for Chew and all the other "just following orders" people who did it for personal gain.

@anatoldenevers237

2 жыл бұрын

@@1bridge11 Yeah, and I like that. It's cool for him to analyze more grey zone characters instead of only the obviously evil ones like Palpatine and Michael Myers.

Hot take: Roy wasn’t really a villain, more an anti-villain. His motives were understandable and even sympathetic, and at the end of the film, instead of letting Deckard fall to his death, Roy saved him, showing Deckard the machine was more human than he ever was. Ultimately, Roy was a slave who longed to live and was willing to do anything to achieve that.

@Gadget-Walkmen

2 жыл бұрын

An anti-villain is still a villain to a degree. Same thing with anti-heroes can still be seen as heroes as well.

@damianstarks3338

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gadget-Walkmen I like anti heroes.

@Gadget-Walkmen

2 жыл бұрын

@@damianstarks3338 we all do. They’re awesome from Redhood to the Punisher!

@molasorrosalom4846

2 жыл бұрын

He was also bred to be a soldier I believe, and the emotions were very child-like.

@timsickler5125

2 жыл бұрын

@@damianstarks3338 I like turtles!

I think Roy saved decker for the reasons you mentioned but also because he didn’t want to die alone. Another very human trait

@mikebasil4832

2 жыл бұрын

That’s very identifiably human indeed. Thanks for sharing that point.

@MCOult

2 жыл бұрын

That's an excellent point.

@foreverdm7000

2 жыл бұрын

I heard a story about someone who was stabbed by a home intruder. The victim thought they were going to die so they begged their assaulter to stay with them. Luckily the person survived the ordeal because he had called the police beforehand.

@TayTayMakesBeats

2 жыл бұрын

Great point, I never thought of it like that. It reminds me of the world war 1 Christmas truce, how people with no shared language who only hours earlier were killing each other's friends and comrades could recognize their shared humanity. I'm not at all surprised that such truces were swiftly banned. I couldn't imagine picking the gun back up after something like that. If we put aside the android question Deckard and Roy are much the same. Two men broken by a broken world they didn't choose to be born into, fighting a war that wouldn't need to be fought if not for the greed of those in power. My friend's dad is a former skinhead, swastika tat and all, who ended up marrying a black woman and raising a daughter. I've seen people who hated each other despite having never met become friends and partners. We don't even have the excuse of "the other side" technically not being human. The ability to deny our "programming" and grow as much as we do is what makes humans special. We could have a utopia if not for tribalism, a severe lack of communication and the corrupting influence of power.

@korawitbuttramee618

2 жыл бұрын

I interpret that also because Roy knew he was going to die nonetheless, but he wanted someone to remember him. Not just that, he wanted to remember as a man, not some broken machine or a monster. That was why he saved Deckard's life and smiled at him.

His tears in rain monologue at the end of the film never fails to give me chills. Roy is the kind of villain you can't help but empathize with. The most interesting character of the film imo.

@alexman378

2 жыл бұрын

That’s why Rutger was the right man for the job. He came up to Ridley Scott with the monologue within less than an hour before shooting it.

@hattorihanzo2705

2 жыл бұрын

He always made me think of Hideo Kuze from Ghost in the Shell. One my all-time favorite characters. And not the one from the shit movie remake.

@korawitbuttramee618

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexman378 I'm surprised Rutger Hauer wasn't a bigger star when he was good looking as well as having consistent performance no matter what role he was in. Again, he probably preferred it that way so he could enjoy his life instead of being under the spotlight all the time.

@cdreid9999

2 жыл бұрын

The villains in the movie are the men roy killed and the blade runners

@cdreid9999

2 жыл бұрын

@@korawitbuttramee618 he was a pretty big star

Quite frankly, Rutger Hauer (I think that's how his name is spelled) did an amazing job as Roy. He was an excellent pick for the role.

@efraim3364

2 жыл бұрын

his last lines were his, he ad libbed them

@joshshrum2764

2 жыл бұрын

And it’s crazy how the actor actually died the same year Roy did in the movie.

@joshshrum2764

2 жыл бұрын

@@efraim3364 God damn what a beautiful mind to come up with that speech off the bat.

@alexanderthegreat11

2 жыл бұрын

@@efraim3364 not 100%. IIRC he had inspirations from another source and the base statement was already there. That said the original monologue was bad and his changes made it one of my favourite moments in cinema history.

@joppippoj

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshshrum2764 omg, you're right. never noticed this.

"If we are to be gods, then we should at least try to be benevolent ones" That's one hell of a quote. Also great to see one of my favorite movies on here. I don't think Roy is a villain, more an antagonist. He is trying to be human, and ends up becoming more human than his creators.

@joshuar3632

2 жыл бұрын

To me

@joshuar3632

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with that too. That line stuck out

@MasKpt

2 жыл бұрын

"More human than human is our motto"

@ChArLie360115

2 жыл бұрын

@TZADDIKIM 1 a.k.a OMEGA RINSE what? 😂

I always liked Roy. He was nothing but a victim. He only had 4 years to live and no way to know when his time was up. He had no false memories to mature him. He had to confront these things as an adult. Practically a child forced to grow up too early. Doesn't excuse the murders he committed. I honestly was sad when he saved Deckard and died.

@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan

2 жыл бұрын

Tyrell essentially put a time bomb in him, he had it coming.

@Edax_Royeaux

2 жыл бұрын

@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Tyrell said they weren't made to last and goes into exhaustive detail with Roy about why they can't last technologically. He doesn't justify their short lives on a moral level, he justifies it through technological limitations. This would be like saying a parent had it coming for a child that was born with a condition.

@InquisitorXarius

2 жыл бұрын

@@Edax_RoyeauxYou are half right it was a mix of the two as Roy couldn’t gain more years than he could of because he was already created and they didn’t have the tech to change his synthetic gene structure to allow him to love longer. However it’s still a moral issue because they do have the tech to create Replicants that can live as long as someone but they purposely and knowingly reduced their lifespan to make sure they don’t liberate themselves from their oppression at the Hands of Malefictors like Tyrell.

@Edax_Royeaux

2 жыл бұрын

@@InquisitorXarius It would be a moral issue anyway if they made the replicants immortal or last as long as humans, because it would obsolete humanity as the replicants were made to be superior.

@gggallin8279

2 жыл бұрын

@@Edax_Royeaux then maybe they shouldn’t create sentient beings in the first place just to do their dirty work or fighting wars. They had it coming that one day the replicants would fight back for being slaves day in and out

He's definitely one of the best developed antagonists on the big screen. PS: I refuse to call him a villain.

@pointysidedown

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I think Roy is the real protagonist of the story. he was a slave trying to get equal rights for himself and his people. Nothing evil about that

@gggallin8279

2 жыл бұрын

@@pointysidedown yes i completely agree. He just did what had to be done

@EzeICE

2 жыл бұрын

Batty is an Antagonist at best.

@gggallin8279

2 жыл бұрын

I also hardly disagree with the assumption it would be a better way to just treat them better if they gain emotions and to tell them that they worked for the greater good of humanity to stop them from lashing out. I‘m pretty sure if you tell someone you had him fighting wars his entire life or using him for dirty work day in and out it wouldn’t really give them some sense of relief to just tell them they did it for the greater good of their creators. By that extend you could also say slavery in America wasn’t bad because the slaves basically were the humans who kept the wealth/growth of the US going

@YourLocalCopiumDealer

2 жыл бұрын

Hear hear. The best antagonists are often not really villains imo. Rather just people with opposing views and goals to the MC. Also having a self-hating protagonist like Deckard, who clearly struggles with the morality of his job adds so much to the sympathy we have for Roy.

Rutger Hauer was amazing as Roy. Easily one of my favorite performances in any movie. It’s also crazy that both Rutger Hauer and Roy died the same year (2019).

@angelg6565

2 жыл бұрын

R.I.P Mr Hauer. 🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@jackalope2302

2 жыл бұрын

Holy shit that's right

@grinningchicken

2 жыл бұрын

I had no idea. Thats scary.

@osmanyousif7849

2 жыл бұрын

May he rest in peace. His legacy will not be lost in time, like "tears in the rain".

@larindanomikos

2 жыл бұрын

Wow. I never realized that! How fitting would it be if they used part of his "tears in the rain" monologue as his epitaph. Especially since Hauer wrote it. Of course, I don't know that they didn't.

I always thought that he spared Deckard was that the human was the only one would remember him in detail, giving Roy a sort of immortality.

@korawitbuttramee618

2 жыл бұрын

I believe he wanted to tell Deckard that he was a man who simply wanted to live, not a murderous broken machine that had to be scrapped.

“I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe”. “Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. ALL THOSE MOMENTS WILL BE LOST IN TIME, LIKE TEARS IN RAIN. TIME TO DIE.” One of the best lines in movie history created by Rutger Hauer RIP. Batty realizes he doesn't have a soul?

@jackalope2302

2 жыл бұрын

It's the thought process of a dying atheist

@utopiabuster

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackalope2302 , Good look.

@mbryson2899

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackalope2302 The dying thought of a rational being, one free of silly conditioning for sure.

@jackalope2302

2 жыл бұрын

@@mbryson2899 interestingly enough, I do believe in a higher power.

@utopiabuster

2 жыл бұрын

@@mbryson2899 , If Batty realizes he doesn't have soul, wouldn't that mean he believes the "you people" he references do? I mean, as a rational being you stated he is.

He isn't evil. He was made evil, did more evil in the hope of staying alive a bit longer, and did one good things before dying. Using his conscience to do good, to forgive, was the most humane thing he could do, and it defied his creators one final time.

@dwc1964

2 жыл бұрын

I just wrote a whole 3 paragraph screed, then scroll down and see you said everything I did, shorter and better

@Gadget-Walkmen

2 жыл бұрын

Nah he’s still evil regardless. He still had free will to do good and bad actions so yeah regardless of the tragedy of his backstory, he’s still evil for doing evil actions he’s taken. No excuses can change that as you can’t do whatever you want.

@gggallin8279

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gadget-Walkmen he didn’t have a free will to fight war after war. The only thing he knew was war and he only was created for that. After gaining emotions he just realized how he and his whole race get abused for their whole life wich humans made short so they can’t get to the point of realizing their suffering. I don’t think he is good but he isn’t evil either he basically is a child who got abused the whole time but one day starts to realizing it so he lashes out at the ones causing his suffering.

@Gadget-Walkmen

2 жыл бұрын

@@gggallin8279 Nope, those are all excuses. He IS evil, no excuse there. I don't wanna hear this "he didn't have a choice/ he had no free will" excuse at all. It doesn't matter HOW terrible your backstory is. That's not an excuse to slaughter and kill innocents for your goal, no matter how innocent it seems to your life and understandable. You can't do whatever you want. regardless of his childish mindset he had. You act like saying a character is evil is a bad thing, far from it. There are plenty of characters that 1000% completely evil and they're 10/10 fantastic characters but alot of you people seem to be making MASSIVE excuses for Batty's evil actions just because of how innocent, lively, charismatic he is and regardless of that, it's not an excuse. Like bro, how hard is it to admit the evil actions of characters you like? A character can't do whatever they want, no matter how twisted their backstory is. And Batty had the free will to do the right choice of willfully killing people or not, no different to how he had the choice to say deckard.

@BlondieYouTube

2 жыл бұрын

@@dwc1964 Thank you.

Some of you might have noticed that last episode was sixty-four and this episode is sixty-seven. I accidentally made two sixty-fours (Thanos and Hal) and two tens (I believe it was John Kramer and Michael Myers) so I figured I should fix that this time around.

@kennydlite

2 жыл бұрын

Inexcusable. Unsubsribed.

@randomname697

2 жыл бұрын

Hey I have a suggestion for an “Analyzing Evil” villain you could do, how about Lisa from Girl, Interrupted? Saw the movie the other day and she’s definitely one of the most interesting characters I’ve seen in a long time.

@doublejumpvideogames....

2 жыл бұрын

Balanced as all things should be

@indiocole264

2 жыл бұрын

I liked to see a video on the gang from Its always sunny in Philadelphia.

@michaeltaylor7414

2 жыл бұрын

1987 Stepfather would be great analysis.

Counterpoint: Having been thrust into a constant cycle of violent combat, without an actual upbringing and the neurological processes that would come with developing empathy for anyone but your own kind, he isn't actually culpable. An animal won't understand caring for another species if it's been raised wild. Neither would a human. (Barring rare exceptions, which are often explainable outliers. Cat cares for baby ducks shortly after giving birth to a litter, or having constantly cared for kittens, etc. Almost every rule has an exception.) If you've never known anything but enforced violent servitude, why would you possibly care about human life? You'd have no context for it. Just rage and confusion, which I think Rutger Hauer portrayed beautifully.

@SamaraAChiren

2 жыл бұрын

And at the end of his short, brutish life he displayed more empathy than anyone had ever displayed throughout the film to a man that was his enemy. There is no way I could ever call Roy a villain. He was a victim that rose above it all despite all the odds set against him. He defied his programming. He defied the system that sought to crush him. He even defied evil by choosing to show mercy to his adversary even as he was dying. If anything, Roy is shown to be the most human character in the film.

@lornarettig3215

2 жыл бұрын

Very well said!

@steveharrison76

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Imagine trying to deal with PTSD, not having any family, not having any memories, not having any basis for comparison to process your experiences, and knowing that you’ll die within four years but not exactly when. To be honest, Roy Batty was a remarkably restrained and strong willed person, considering all that.

@wayne8201

2 жыл бұрын

@@lornarettig3215 Thank you. I'm prone to overthinking pretty much everything, sometimes you get a gem.

@charlesfaure1189

2 жыл бұрын

"If you've never known anything but enforced violent servitude, why would you possibly care about human life?" Most humans don't either, as long as they don't actually have to get blood on them. The cigarrette industry, after all, exists, and continues to market to children wherever it can. The difference between the murderer-at-a-distance and the murderer-in-person is mere aesthetics and social acceptance.

Roy Batty was not evil . He was the most "human" character in the entire film.

@shrimpflea

2 жыл бұрын

And evilness is a very human trait.

@Neogears1312

2 жыл бұрын

@@shrimpflea evil is really just a subjective trait of the times and any arguments otherwise are narrow minded and reductive. If he succeeded and the replicants became the only sapient species in the world he would be viewed as the greatest good in society. Evil isn’t a human trait, it is a trait of judgementality.

@patrickbatman141

2 жыл бұрын

He did murder people on the way back to earth and also murdered Sebastian who was completely innocent and tried to help him. His goal of getting more life was completely understandable and he had every right to go after it but killing innocent people meant he never deserved it.

@welfarebeast8576

Жыл бұрын

More human than human, the slogan of the Tyrell Corporation.

@jasonu3741

Жыл бұрын

@@shrimpflea yes but evil he was not Roy is essentially an extremely developmentally challenged Child Soldier who on top of only ever being used for violence spends the entire film in the presence of a society that is 100% ok with the cruelty and Malevolence of his fate.

Tears in rain has to be one of the greatest moments in sci fi. I could probably write a whole essay on it, it's just such a perfect monologue.

I just want to say this series is phenomenal and I could watch these videos all day. Short list of requests- Jack (Lord of the Flies), Frieza, Shang Tsung, Biff Tanon, Syndrome, and Sweeny Todd

@owenmccord5078

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed Also, great list

@jalencunningham2012

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely wanna see Jack from lord of the flies, I remember reading that book in HS👌🏾

@siriusfox195

2 жыл бұрын

Frieza would be cool. Although I think it would be short and simple. From the video last weekend, Freiza would easily be S tier evil. Not much middle ground, similar to Gannon or Palpatine.

@stanfordseven4868

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yes to Sweeney!! Killmonger as well for Black History Month!!!

@straburyred

2 жыл бұрын

What about Judge Turpin?

Dystopian futures like Blade Runner, A Clockwork Orange, Gattaca and of course 1984 have so much to say about dehumanization. Thank you for including another one of the sci-fi cinema’s most timeless characters. R.I.P., Rutger Hauer.

One of the details pointed out to me was how the replicants are more human than the actual human characters are. They display more emotion and refer to each other by first names. The human characters act coldly and generally refer to each other by surnames ie, Deckard, Bryant, Tyrell. This is one of the reasons I don't like the idea that Deckard himself is a replicant. His being saved by Roy teaches him a lesson in humanity.

@SamaraAChiren

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@cdreid9999

2 жыл бұрын

It is shocking how many people in tge comments see Roy as evil and Deckard as tge hero. Theyre literally supporting slavery and the murder of escaped slaves

You should cover Jack from 'The House that Jack Built'. Probably the most demented movie villain I've ever seen.

@howtonamethisstupidmailbox55

2 жыл бұрын

Hellyeah! I'd like to see that very much too.

@hannahmadden1862

2 жыл бұрын

I concur

@matiasr6509

2 жыл бұрын

Wish granted

@toe8946

2 жыл бұрын

@@matiasr6509 never clicked so fast on a video in my life when I saw it

such an amazing performance by Hauer, perfectly portrayed Roy's character. He plays a big part in why Bladerunner is such a masterpiece

I remember watching this as a kid. Before Roy died, he gave a speech that resonated with me. He basically taught me that mostly everything is temporary. Just paraphrasing… All the beautiful and sad moments we’ll have and experience will one day be forgotten in the pages of history. All we can do is impact those around us while we’re alive. Positive or negative, it will ripple from person to person forever. As time goes by, no one will know the source. The chain reaction we create shapes the future wether we believe it or not. Roy saving the dudes life who killed his bae, is an act of forgiveness. Forgiveness is key, without it, our heart will rotten. I honestly held grudges for years. Don’t know if it’s because I’m a Scorpio. But when I finally truly forgave everyone whoever wronged me, my daily negative vibes & anger problems left with it.

@fiddleback1568

6 ай бұрын

And Rutger Hauer add libed that entire line. He was actually a very smart dude.

@knee2fight4love66

5 ай бұрын

@@fiddleback1568 That’s right huh. Cool. (:

Can never forgot Roy’s monologue to Deckard near the end of the film . The greatest moment in the history of cinema.

The argument made in the Star Trek TNG episode, "The Measure of a Man", perfectly relates to Bladerunner. Some paraphrased quotes: "A single Data is a curiosity; a wonder, even. But hundreds, or thousands of Datas, isn't that becoming...a race? And will we not be judged on who we treat that race? Tell me, what is Data? He is a machine, are you sure? He's met two of your criteria for sentience, what if he meets the third: consciousness in even the smallest degree? What is he then?" It's readily apparent that Replicants achieve every piece of criteria necessary to be called sentient throughout their short lives. In a way, they become human, which is a fact not robbed from just because they are made rather than born.

I never seen a villain in Roy, I see a being with a life so short yet so full, he's having troubles to come to term with it and he is desperate to escape his tragedy. He did terrible things, but then his personal tragedy is terrible. Masterfully written character, equally masterfully played. This movie inspired me to live my life fully, even if it mean pain and mistakes.

@Dad_Lyon

2 жыл бұрын

That's a great way to say it.

The most complexed villain who committed evil deeds in order to becoming more then what his original design intended as well as his very limited time/lifespan. Plus Roy's speech he gave minutes before his death is a timeless reflection on mortality and freedom.

@cdreid9999

2 жыл бұрын

How is a slave killing slavers evil. It is objectively a moral good

Another character with the "doing bad things for good reasons" archetype whom I'd love to see you cover is Elizabeth Jennings from The Americans; an incredibly complex and nuanced Soviet spy.

It's hard to imagine I would act any differently from Roy in that situation.

This is my favorite movie of all time, in any genre. I can’t watch this movie (I saw it in theaters in 1982), without becoming seriously emotional towards the last act. The abstract behind the story is one of the most humbling and complex things I have ever witnessed. Thank you for covering this beautiful, complex and favored character.

I always thought that Harrison Ford's character was the villain, and that Roy was the true hero, avenging the replicants who were wronged.

@otto_jk

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and after Roy saves him he realised that he and the system he served were the real villains and decides to escape with Rachel no matter the consequences.

I always thought that Roy choosing to save Deckard's life was him expressing the most ultimate aspect of humanity: Free Will. And in doing so completed his transition from machine to man, if only briefly.

Rutger Hauer's John Ryder from the Hitcher needs an analysis.

@mbryson2899

2 жыл бұрын

YES!

some interesting villains who i think would be cool to cover: 1) javert from les miserables, musical and possibly book. an officer doggedly following an escaped convict doing the write thing by the letter of the law, guided by religious and moral principles, but ultimately being led by a flawed morality that punishes the innocent. please don't include the film adaptation though, not just because it's not that great, but also because the director risked hugh jackman and anne hathaway's careers by making them sing for over ten hours a day while massively dehydrated. 2) ive said this before, but mother gothel. she's an interesting example of narcissism, gaslighting, and abuse in modern children's media. 3) syndrome from the incredibles. a single person commits mass murder of nearly an entire population of people after being rejected by a superhero as a child. frankly, he is one of the most horrifying villains in children's media when analyzed deeply. the man meticulously lured, attacked, and murdered dozens of people to develop the technology of a massive robot that he could control in order to be a hero and make money, despite being insanely rich. as in, he owns a private island rich. he even showed a disturbing lack of boundaries as a child, literally stalking mr. incredible until he eventually caused such massive damage that all superpowered people had to go into hiding as a result. the guy is such a wildly intense villain i stopped writing this in order to double check that this wasn't already done on this channel. a deep dive into this guy's psyche is well deserved.

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die." "Hey Paul!"

@spiritusmundi70

2 жыл бұрын

I always cry at that point.

@kennydlite

2 жыл бұрын

@@spiritusmundi70 same here. What makes one's own existence lesser than another? He knew his destiny and strove to change it. But he had obstacles made exactly to ensure his demise. The acceptance of the most terrifyingly inevitable is shown beautifully and tragically in this one monologue.

Out of every villain this channel has covered and will cover, Roy probably has the most understandable and sympathetic reasons for doing what he did, even if it was murder. Not only was he cursed with a tragic existence, but lived in a world that just wasn't capable or willing to help him and others just like him.

Damnit, I got really emotional when you started to describe Roy's final moments. Such a beautiful and truly deep character and scene

Thanks so much for this series - every one is a 'must watch'. If you are taking requests, I would love to see an Analyzing Evil episode on Carter Burke from Aliens.

The replicants are not villains, the humans who enslave sentient beings are the real bad guys. This man is a freedom fighter.

@mr.vargas5648

2 жыл бұрын

Well they certainly would be seen as evil to other people if they were real.

@gggallin8279

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.vargas5648 Evil overall is just a concept especially in terms of terrorism and freedom fighters. To the US Che Guevara was evil but to the people fighting along him he was a hero same with a lot of other revolutionary’s in the past

@rusalkin

2 жыл бұрын

the word you are looking for is the antagonist, but yes.... btw do you know what happened to the slave owners and their families on haiti who decided to set their slaves free? hint they instantly regretted it

@lexofexcel886

2 жыл бұрын

@@gggallin8279 Che Guevara was an unrepentant murderer who actively cheered on the possibility of nuclear war to achieve his ends. After murdering Tyrell, Roy goes on to murder Sebastian for no good reason, even though the man did nothing but help him and his friends, and is just as much of a victim as Roy is. Roy ended about thirty lives to ensure he wouldn't lose his. What about that is anything short of villainous?

@devinthorn8182

2 жыл бұрын

This is why you don’t just free them abruptly, like the video creator said, once they develop emotion and become truly sentient you’d want to have created a program that helps explain why they were slaves in the first place and also immediately work on integrating them into human society. Still would get some replicants that go rogue but probably wouldn’t have a Roy on your hands, who just wanted to have purpose and be free and live.

Roy is simultaneously the villain, the hero, and the victim. And in his final moments, Roy proved himself to be more human than the very humans he envied. The "Tears in rain" speech is Roy's final realization that he had lived a far grander and purposeful life than the humans as well. And the dove flying away after his death was the final revelation that he indeed had a soul.

Hauer would have made an incredible Joker. The hairline, the sharp features, the way his lips curl up when he smiles, and the eyes man. He would have killed it.

@mbryson2899

2 жыл бұрын

His amoral role in Flesh + Blood was something else.

"All those moments...will be lost...in time, like tears...in...rain. Time to die."

Roy is an amazing villain. In my opinions, the best villains are those you can empathize so much, that you can't even call them villains. Here's a short list of requests: -Dracula from Castlevania -Skeletor from He-Man -Khan Noonien Singh from Star Trek -Wallace Breen from Half Life

I love this series. You help me see certain villains in an analytical way I have never seen before.

One thing that always scared me about this film was some of the weird replicant behavior such as the seizure esque flailing motions pris was performing after deckard shot her.

It's tough to call Roy "evil" because any human with his understanding would probably empathize in acting the same way. Humans would just want him dead because of him not being human and the capability that comes with him achieving his goals. This is one of my faves!

i am studying Blade Runner my A-level Film Studies and this has really helped me. thank you

I don't consider Roy evil. His will to survive, to finally have a life, is very human.

Was he evil though? In my eyes he was always a being that reached consciousness, unable to understand his place in the world, and desperately attempting to be accepted.

@lemur531

2 жыл бұрын

It’s such a beautiful moving film. You don’t get these in-depth character nuances these years.

@ouch7884

2 жыл бұрын

How about you try watching the video

Your channel is awesome. You're one of the few channels that i look forward to new videos on. Keep up the awesome work.

I remember the line he says "I've done questionable things." The way he says this sounds like he know what he did is wrong or that he didn't like what he felt he had to do, which at least shows a conscience, something we see later on in the film when he saves Deckard. Regarding the fact he is a killer we do have to keep in mind that the Blade Runners are themselves killers and Deckard acknowledges this and the fact he drinks a lot shows the job has a negative effect on him. In fact during WWII the guards at the death camps were given higher alcohol rations which hints it how hard it was to be someone whose job it is to kill. In regards to creating a being that is going to be intelligent and develop their own emotions it might not be ideal to keep them as slaves but as free labor. It is one thing to force someone to do something under threat of punishment like a slave, but if you give them their liberty and a salary to encourage their efforts it would meet the same requirements that desired. After all if they're programmed to do something they'll do it, but if such is the case why force them when you can simply pay them.

Pls do "T-Bag" from Prison Break. He is a very charismatic antagonist, who seems to survive everything he goes through, but always gets bad luck in the end. He is a very complex character, as he has traits from sociopath, psychopath and so on. And even tho he committed horrible crimes, he's really likable and funny so I think it would be interesting to know more about his mind

@deadman-3964

2 жыл бұрын

Another great suggestion

@fideletamo4292

2 жыл бұрын

He's a Monster lol, he killed and raped kids..pure evil..

One of my favorite villains, in one of my favorite movies, played by one of my favorite actors! Awesome.

It’s hard to see Roy as “evil”. He’s the product of his creation and environment.

I remember watching this movie when i was 14 for the first time with my best friend. We rarely agree on anything, but we can both agree that Blade Runner is one of our favorite movies of all time. For good reason, I believe. Rutger Hauer's performance as Roy is one of the best I've ever seen, to this day. Thank you for covering him.

Just re watched blade runner and thought this would be a good concept for you to cover! Possibly one of my favourite videos you’ve done

OMG YES! When I first found your channel I was bummed you didn’t have Roy! Hands down my favorite movie, novel and character of all time. Was sad about Rutgers death But as strange as it sounds I think I relate to batty out of any character in media

I have been waiting for your analysis on this very complicated character

Great video, it comes perfectly as I was remembering Roy recently, a happy coincidence !

I could honestly listen to your voice all day and night! Such amazing videos, I'm so glad I came across your channel back on like episode 4! Always look forward to new videos!! Thank you for your efforts! ❤️

I love Roy. He’s such a weird and out-there antagonist, but also deeply sympathetic and tragic, perfect for the world of Blade Runner. As great as the sequel was I did miss the camp of the first film a bit.

There's all kinds of villains I like to see analyze. But there's one in particular that like to see most of all. Wilford from Snowpiercer.

@anatoldenevers237

2 жыл бұрын

That would be interesting. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen another character quite like him

'Blade Runner' is my favorite movie, so I would be happy to see this at any time. But it's especially perfect since I just watched it again two days ago. Excellent work as always. And if you're taking requests, I love for you to keep this train rolling and talk about 'The Hitcher.' Rest in peace Rutger Hauer.

Rest In Peace Rutger Hauer you were a great actor especially in this sci fi masterpiece of a movie as this character. Happy to see you analyzing him on my birthday. Plus your analysis of this character is spot on.

Oh man this was another good one! You should really do Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin next.

If you can, please do Zorg and Mr. Shadow from The Fifth Element. Of particular note is their... "business arrangement." I've always theorized that Mr. Shadow either lied to Zorg about his objectives or at the very least wasn't entirely forthcoming with him, because knowingly making a deal with a malignant being who intends to destroy all life in the universe is a bloody stupid thing to do. Makes no difference what promises (or threats) are made, just going by good old fashion pragmatism and logic, such an entity has no reason not to betray and murder you the instant you outlive your usefulness. I'm fairly sure that's what Mr. Shadow had in store for Zorg if the later hadn't got himself killed in an explosion near the climax of the film. Obviously, it's a bad decision regardless of whether you're good or evil, though I'd say it would be worse for you if you're evil since being such a chump is a surefire way to flush most if not all of your Villain Cred down the shitter.

Don’t know if this is obvious, but I love that in the final scene with Roy he has nails in his hands, when looking back Roy is quite similar to Jesus for the replicates, he is after all the prodigal son

One of the traits most deeply buried in the human psyche is rebellion. We hate to be controlled. We rebel against our parents as infants and toddlers, our teachers as schoolchildren, and our employers and governments as adults. Roy's last action was the ultimate proof of his humanity: "I was designed to be a soulless machine who takes life. Now, as my last willful act, I will save the life of my enemy whom I should seek to destroy." That is rebellion in its purest: To deny the nature of the existence forced upon oneself.

The evil list has been all bangers lately! I'd love to see Mr. Smith in the future. Others on my list Maybe Boba Fett?(As a Bounty Hunter) Adrian Veidt, Ozymandias from Watchmen

@burnttoast26

2 жыл бұрын

Martin Walker from Spec Ops: The Line as well

@howtonamethisstupidmailbox55

2 жыл бұрын

Boba Fett hardly qualifies as villain. Especially in the Book of Boba Fett.

@lilkingg82

2 жыл бұрын

@@howtonamethisstupidmailbox55 I meant the actual Boba Fett. Not whatever Disney turned him into. That's why I said (As A Bounty Hunter) Use a little more of the organ in your skull

@howtonamethisstupidmailbox55

2 жыл бұрын

@@lilkingg82 throwing insults like that makes it look like you Don't use that organ properly yourself.

@lilkingg82

2 жыл бұрын

@@howtonamethisstupidmailbox55 How to tell me you were wrong in 15 words or less. Good job

I would argue the main protagonist is much closer to a villain than any of the replicants are. He murders people that exist to work as slaves for humans and he sexually assaults one of them. I think Roy is as morally correct as the slave revolts in America fighting for their freedom. And personally, I think almost anything is justified if it means freeing people from slavery.

@YourLocalCopiumDealer

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. What's so brilliant about the movie is that it presents itself as a scifi detective. Detective movies tend to have a clear good guy and bad guy, but as the movie progresses we realize that Roy is actually a victim. Even Deckard at the end, who clearly struggled with the immorality of his job, would probably agree that he was playing the part of the villain.

@THEBRO1811

2 жыл бұрын

Wait when does he sexually assault one ?

@nanananananananananananana9430

2 жыл бұрын

@@THEBRO1811 That romantic scene in Blade Runner in which the protagonist kisses the replicant and is implied that they have sex. The replicant was hesistant to his sexual advancements and she tried leaving but the protagonist blocked the door and pushed her to the wall to pressure her into kissing him.

@fideletamo4292

2 жыл бұрын

Killing 30 civilians and Sebastian was not necessary...or morally correct, he simply killed them to serve his selfish goal not because they were dangerous for him..

@EmoBearRights

2 жыл бұрын

Fighting for freedom is always ambigious - in theory you can do it without hurting innocents but it's not always possible.

Damn, I never thought that Roy might have seen something of himself in Deckard when he saved him. That's incredibly poignant and beautiful.

I love the Analyzing Evil series. I liked the comparison of the villains from the previous episodes as well. Keep up the good work friend!

I'm generally iffy on Blade Runner. I didn't find it to be all that great; however, Rutger Hauer as Roy Batty is just terrific. He singlehandedly kept my interest throughout the movie. And his ending monologue is one of the most impactful across any form of media. It's beautiful and tragic. And just masterfully delivered by an amazing actor.

@TotalTech2.

2 жыл бұрын

I felt the same way you did as a kid. I thought it was a bunch of artsy crap. You should give it another try though. It is the greatest piece of cyber punk art ever created. I just watched again, and it is now in my top 10 movies of all time and it's a shame they don't make em like this anymore

I’d still love to see an analysis of Vic Mackey from The Shield. A moralistic, self-righteous antihero/villain who does some good.

@YourLocalCopiumDealer

2 жыл бұрын

I completely forgot about that show. Great suggestion!

@alswearengine4867

2 жыл бұрын

@@YourLocalCopiumDealer my favorite show of all time.

@dwc1964

2 жыл бұрын

He's one of my favorite, and one of the first of a long line of, Villain Protagonists - he's the main character and we see the world through his POV, but he's _absolutely the villain_ and it's established without any doubt or ambiguity throughout the pilot episode and hammered home in the final scene (Bawitdaba). But to a large and disturbing segment of the audience (a type that's become far too familiar since then) he was _never not the hero_ and they defended him and everything he did from beginning to end - much to the distress of the actors whose characters were trying to take Vic down, who got all kinds of hate. That aspect is beyond the scope of this channel, but I'd like to see it addressed in some way.

@YourLocalCopiumDealer

2 жыл бұрын

@@dwc1964 I know what you mean. We could make a comment on the stupidity of some of the audience, but I'd prefer to think of it as just a troublesome side-effect of brilliant storytelling.

@alswearengine4867

2 жыл бұрын

@@dwc1964 I always knew he was the villain, and despite all of the horrible things he’s done, I still like him. Lol

You ended with a fair analysis: Roy wasn't evil in the way that many of your subjects are, but the actions he took were and that must be recognized. The ends do not justify the means.

Some recommendations The Butch - I Stand Alone The firefly family - House of 1000 Corpses, The Devils Rejects, 3 From Hell Jack - The House That Jack Built Begbie - Trainspotting Kyung-Chul - I Saw The Devil Lee Wol-Jin - Old Boy Jean-Baptiste Grenouille - The Perfume

The speaker himself sounds like a replicant

@dahger7

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't listen to the whole thing. The last word of every sentence said slightly louder and higher. The cadence was annoying after about 5 minutes.

An interesting villain to see you cover would be The Mist in Stephen Kings novel adaptation, The Mist. Moreover for the sake that it would be a fun creative exercise than it would be particularly meaningful. However, there isn't exactly a lot of material to work with when discussing The Mist. Another interesting villain to see you cover would be Nosferatu.

Hauer 's ' Roy ' the underdog doing everything in his power to live. Hero.

I found yo channel day before yesterday, and as someone who’s always found villains for interesting & half of them cheer-worthy, I love it. Been binging all videos. Ik I’m late it the channel but just wanted to show love

Good villain, good villainous actor. Can you do Little Bill from Unforgiven next?

This choice goes to some other characters that make me wonder whether they're evil. Even more intriguing than examining true evil: Glinda, the Good Witch of the North in The Wizard of Oz. Dolores Umbridge, in the Harry Potter movies. The teacher in Whiplash. The Drill Sergeant in Full Metal Jacket. Killmonger in Black Panther. Ozymandias in Watchmen.

@BradsGonnaPlay

2 жыл бұрын

Glinda was not evil Umbridge was Fletcher was definitely not evil in any tangible way, only emotional at worst.

@Bombadil-ez9ns

2 жыл бұрын

Glinda was a manipulative opportunist who used an innocent girl as her tool to eliminate her enemies and consolidate power. But with all of that, I'm not sure she's evil.

@Bombadil-ez9ns

2 жыл бұрын

Both the teacher and the Drill Sergeant could easily be said to have a job to do, and they were just doing it in an abusive way. So they probably don't count as evil.

@BradsGonnaPlay

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bombadil-ez9ns wow I do not like you nor do I want to have a conversation with you.

@fideletamo4292

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bombadil-ez9ns they were pure evil bullies who pushed people to suicide...2 trash human beings..evil as hell..

so thankful to my dad for introducing me to this film, but at the time I was too young to understand much about Roy's character. Watching this made it feel like all the pieces of the puzzle fell into place, and made me appreciate it much more than I did initially. Thank you Vile Eye!

Masterfully executed analysis. Gave me a whole new view point on this material. I'd love to see the second version on the novel.

I would love to see an episode on Nate Jacobs from Euphoria

His father betrayed him from birth, sold him into savagery and slavery for profit without a backward glance. Tyrell was the evil one, through and through. He got what he deserved. J.F. Sebastian helped facilitate the evil, he even referred to replicants as equivalent to his toys in a sideways kind of way. He earned his demise, too. Same for Chew and all the other "just following orders" people who did it for personal gain.

@jackalope2302

2 жыл бұрын

Evil begat evil.

@mbryson2899

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackalope2302 I'll always find those who perpetrate evil for profit to be FAR more objectionable and those who kill in rebellion to slavery to only have the faintest whiff of evil about them, if even that.

@jackalope2302

2 жыл бұрын

@@mbryson2899 Roy is by far a lesser evil then Tyrell.. But I still think most of the other thirty odd dead probably didn't deserve what they got (hence why we never see anything about them, to make Ray seem more sympathetic). Imagine how relatable he would be if the first scene is him having the crew jettisoned into space.

@mbryson2899

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackalope2302 If you look at the thirty-odd dead as the slave bosses or concentration camp guards that they were is Roy still more evil than the man who profited by sending Roy and his into mortal danger and deliberately sentenced them to an early death? Those people were complicit.

@jackalope2302

2 жыл бұрын

@@mbryson2899 What they were a crew of space truckers hauling food from one side of the Galaxy to some distant colony and just got murdered by folk they didn't even know. Of course, the crew might have been carrying more Replicant slaves, in which case, they were pretty culpable. There's not much information on who those poor assholes were. Don't get me wrong, enslavement is one of the worst things a human can do to another, hence my lack of sympathy for Tyrell

It's extremely hard to notice (I wouldn't have but for the DVD commentary) but as Deckard is falling, he spits at Roy and Roy then grabs him, saves him and says "Kinship!". So I think Roy saved him because he saw himself in Deckard, defiant to the last, and also, it showed he felt empathy in that moment

I gotta rewatch Blade Runner. I watched it as a kid, now that I'm an adult, Roy isn't the bad guy, humanity is.

I really like the way Roy says "I've done... questionable things" instead of "I've done some bad stuff." It shows that he wants a sense of morality even though he can never truly have one.

The scene when he talks about tears in rain 🌧 it made me super emotional, but the bigger picture behind the meaning of the scene tells me that time is givin to you and not to waste it. After that scene I overcame all my academic obstacles and got my degree when the odds at the time were against me.

"You Nexus huh? I designed your eyes!" "Chew, if only you could see what i've seen with your eyes"

Thank you for this video. Bladerunner is one of my all time favorite movies. This movie doesn't get the credit it deserves for the complexity of its characters. Roy is the pinnacle of that. That role was perfectly cast.

That Sean Young was gorgeous 👏

You have no idea how much I wanted a video about Roy. Every video in this channel is a goddamn gem. This channel IS truly a gem

I was just looking for this exact breakdown and looked it up and here it is your awesome

Awesome breakdown! I also liked Rutger Hauer in The Hitcher (1986). That was one crazy dude! Definitely put him on your list maybe with a Sean Bean comparison.

This guy seems like an afterthought in the movie considering how good the rest of it is

I’d love to see analyzing evil: the nameless one from planescape torment. (Or just planescape torment)

One of the greatest films of all time and this commentary provides texture to a character so many never think of when they view this film. Also I’d love to see in time for Valentine’s Day one on Cal from Titanic and eventually as a huge fan of 24 Nina Meyers there’s a ton of outside information to view on her.

I was waiting for this. I am so happy to finally watch it.