Analyzing Evil: Ozymandias From Watchmen

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Hello everyone and welcome to the seventy-eighth episode of Analyzing Evil! Our feature villain for this video is Ozymandias from Watchmen. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for watching. If you have any feedback or questions feel free to let me know below!
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  • @ashleytupper6049
    @ashleytupper60492 жыл бұрын

    One of the best ‘villain’ moments in comic book and movie history: Adrian Veidt: The Comedian was right. Humanity's savage nature will inevitably lead to global annihilation. So in order to save this planet, I have to trick it... with the greatest practical joke in human history. Dan Dreiberg: Killing millions? Adrian Veidt: To save billions. A necessary crime. Rorschach: You know we can't let you do that. Adrian Veidt: 'Do that', Rorschach? I'm not a comic book villain. Do you seriously think I would explain my master stroke to you if there were even the slightest possibility you could affect the outcome? I triggered it 35 minutes ago. Always get chills at that end line.

  • @uzitay815

    @uzitay815

    2 жыл бұрын

    I always loved he said he’s not a comic book villain like bro yes you are

  • @egggnome6266

    @egggnome6266

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@uzitay815 I feel that's why The Joker is really the most dangerous villain of all time. He knows he's a comic book villain , so his insanity has no inhibitions.

  • @ptolemeeselenion1542

    @ptolemeeselenion1542

    2 жыл бұрын

    Indeed.

  • @DundG

    @DundG

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@egggnome6266 What has his knowledge that he is a comic book charakter to do with his danger level? He is as dangerous as the writers make him, and if the Joker knows this, he knows he can't surpass his limitations and will always loose to Batman. Ozymandias is far more dangerous, as he is written to be far more intelligent than the Joker. He succeded in his plan!

  • @egggnome6266

    @egggnome6266

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DundG You may want to look up the concept of meta and not try to fit things into those little boxes. We're trying to think outside of those.

  • @halfmettlealchemist8076
    @halfmettlealchemist80762 жыл бұрын

    Look, I'm not going to say Ozymandias was right, even if he was well-intentioned - he murdered countless innocent people, nothing can justify that. The key thing about his character, though, is that he _believes_ he was right - even when faced with more constructive solutions, when confronted by his own friends, Ozymandias' own ego prevents him from acknowledging viewpoints other than his own. When Rorschach says he'll never compromise, it's not just a refutation of Ozymandias' plan - it's a reflection, as both men are utterly unwilling to admit they're wrong or dissent to differing views, no matter what the consequences may be. Such is one of the key themes of Watchmen - there are no heroes or villains, just people, with all their many strengths and flaws.

  • @iiscritical7795

    @iiscritical7795

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hitting the nail on the head.

  • @halfmettlealchemist8076

    @halfmettlealchemist8076

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Ozymandias The Misanthrope Wow I can’t believe the actual Ozymandias from Alan Moore’s Watchmen replied to my comment, it’s an honor sir

  • @timcontreras

    @timcontreras

    2 жыл бұрын

    They dropped the bomb because they knew that Japan was training non combat personnel and no military personnel to train in gorilla warfare. Japan was gonna drag it out. The fact that it took 2 atomic bombs should tell you that. Surrender wasn’t gonna be a option if those bombs wert dropped

  • @halfmettlealchemist8076

    @halfmettlealchemist8076

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Ozymandias The Misanthrope I know, I was just kidding. Cool that that's your actual name, though. And yeah, I try to run this account without judging people based on trivial stuff like their opinions on comic book characters - there's too much hate on this site as is, I'm just doing my part to create a non-hostile atmosphere. Glad to have a good conversation, yeah.

  • @nitrogenbubbles4555

    @nitrogenbubbles4555

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Ozymandias The Misanthrope tyrants and cowards come from both the left and the right. Both argue with a false pretense of offering true freedom to those of us with no real power.

  • @michaelkaduck1915
    @michaelkaduck19152 жыл бұрын

    Ozymandias is the perfect embodiment of someone who has become so detached from humanity to recognize that there is still good. I know in the original comic, there are two characters, old Bernie and young Bernie, an old white man and a young black man, who form a great friendship over the course of the story. Old Bernie gives him a comic for free when young Bernie can't afford it, and old Bernie even throws himself in front of young Bernie to save him. When the comic was written, it really meant a lot to see this. Ozymandias can't see the micro level of good in the world. He never really wanted to improve the good, in reality, he just wanted to destroy the bad.

  • @Gadget-Walkmen

    @Gadget-Walkmen

    2 жыл бұрын

    that's a nice interesting view, didn't realize THAT was what that relationship met in the story, always wondered about that.

  • @caseyroberts1171

    @caseyroberts1171

    Жыл бұрын

    The aftermath scene in the graphic novel is a prime example of why "The Watchmen" was so difficult to translate to the screen. There are soooooo many little details that are important, like the old man and young boy. Another one that stands out is the lesbian could that were constantly arguing throughout the book. In the aftermath, you find their bodies in the rubble, hand in hand as they met death. Even as disfunctional as they were in life, in their final moments they sought each other out and greeted death together. Love, in its final moment, demonstrated that their love was stronger than their disagreements.

  • @whitedragoness23

    @whitedragoness23

    Жыл бұрын

    Interesting, but I think Ozymandias would still see that good as being too small and trivial to make much an impact. And on the whole level people were largely evil and he rather see the evil side like that one guy from the squid games because it’s easier to see the bad than the goodness to justify actions

  • @whitedragoness23

    @whitedragoness23

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Gadget-Walkmen I didn’t realize that myself, I thought it was to get the viewers used to who were some of the people who were going to die. Both black and white died by what Ozymandias saw as a equal death and it wasn’t targeted certain groups he just didn’t trust all of humanity at all as a whole.

  • @wayneigoe6722

    @wayneigoe6722

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey! Nice to see a fellow crew member of the Normandy!

  • @reecewarrenmarshall3760
    @reecewarrenmarshall37602 жыл бұрын

    Nite owl-“Killing millions...” Ozymandias-“To save billions”

  • @michaelkelley2727

    @michaelkelley2727

    10 ай бұрын

    "a necessary crime"

  • @ryanwarner5006

    @ryanwarner5006

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@michaelkelley2727except it wasn't necessary. We are still here.

  • @Dimmary

    @Dimmary

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@ryanwarner5006 For now

  • @abyss9316
    @abyss93162 жыл бұрын

    Did you know? David Hayter the voice of Solid Snake He co-wrote the screenplay of the Watchmen what an absolutely fantastic job I never knew till years later

  • @RichieMyers12

    @RichieMyers12

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love Hayter and enjoy the movie but it is almost shot for shot from the graphic novel. Not hating on anyone (especially not Snake) but always felt the film would have done well not trying to copy scene for scene dialogue and shots.

  • @blackmambo8702

    @blackmambo8702

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RichieMyers12 I actually like that they dod that tbh. It's almost like a remaster. Its hit different seeing them move around.

  • @sunsetman22

    @sunsetman22

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RichieMyers12 I think we really take for granted the sheer amount of effort that it takes to translate a graphic novel to the big screen so faithfully

  • @jorgevazquez1197

    @jorgevazquez1197

    2 жыл бұрын

    So he’s to blame for that train wreck

  • @abyss9316

    @abyss9316

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jorgevazquez1197 ouch

  • @AKFechtschule
    @AKFechtschule2 жыл бұрын

    The setting established that the Warsaw Pact nations had drastically upscaled their nuclear arms production out of fear of Dr. Manhattan, and were more likely to use them as a result. Obviously, this was not an issue in our own world, hence why Ozymandias felt the threat of nuclear annihilation was a certainty if he did not act.

  • @joshuaortiz2031

    @joshuaortiz2031

    2 жыл бұрын

    Adrian Veidt is a hero for his actions. If killing millions saves billions its a necessary evil. Its pure utilitarian ideology in action.

  • @xroyta4975

    @xroyta4975

    2 жыл бұрын

    But a compromise could have been made, if Ozymandias could have convinced Dr. Manhattan to leave Earth. Therefore Dr. Manhattan wouldn't be around to continue the escalation of conflict.

  • @cflpinebox1072

    @cflpinebox1072

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lmaoooo

  • @digitaldevil696

    @digitaldevil696

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's not that Ozymandias shouldn't have act. On the contrary, with his vast possibilities, he should've, in my opinion, stepped up and tried to find the solution. With all the power he wields, it would be irresponsible to just sit and watch. However, the problem is with which course of action he took. He didn't exhaust all the possible options before doing what he did. Instead, he acted on emotions of fear and desire to be the Saviour, which he himself failed to recognize.

  • @KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor

    @KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@digitaldevil696 he....did though. He literally says he's tried to find other solutions but none of them would work

  • @calimanduff
    @calimanduff Жыл бұрын

    Whoa just realized why Adrien has the visual of Alexander cutting the Gordian knot. Instead of trying to untangle the complexities of the Cold War he decided to just cut through all of it in one violent action. Alexander “solving” the Gordian knot is a great story of someone doing something destructive just so that no one else can say they did what he had tried to do. The point of untying the Gordian knot was to have the rope to lead the ox, but Alexander destroys it. The point of ending the Cold War was to save lives, but Ozymandias kills millions just so no one else can claim to have “ended the Cold War”.

  • @billlupin8345
    @billlupin83452 жыл бұрын

    Iirc, his plans didn’t include the comedian. Apparently the Comedian fully discovered his plan, realized it would work, had a breakdown, and committed suicide by confessing to Moloch, who he knew Veidt had bugged. Hiring an assassin to target himself was just his response to the hero hunter investigation.

  • @Taospark

    @Taospark

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a sick joke befitting the man and the monster.

  • @alexarkoette564

    @alexarkoette564

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah. I actually don’t agree with a lot of the ways he handled this character. Adrian wasn’t the Joker in the dark night relying entirely upon the actions of others for his plan. He relied upon the action of only one person to succeed, Dr. Manhattan, but he was easy to predict since he quite literally worked like clock work. Everything else he planned by only relying upon himself and the people he hired while attempting to kill as few people as possible to achieve his plan.

  • @qtcash3498

    @qtcash3498

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm pretty sure he was excited to beat Eddie's ass after getting embarrassed at Metropolis' meeting

  • @kyleparrish2026
    @kyleparrish20262 жыл бұрын

    A type of evil we see all too often. A solution looking for a problem, with no faith in people to solve their own problems. Real world solipsism taken to the extreme. And as with real life analogs, for Ozymandias it all amounts to little more than an unconscious vanity project.

  • @CAMSLAYER13

    @CAMSLAYER13

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't think it's fair to say that there was no problem. It is mentioned that dr. Manhattan is shifting the balance of power and causing the cold war to spiral out of control

  • @kyleparrish2026

    @kyleparrish2026

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CAMSLAYER13 There's certainly truth to that. I think where Ozymandias went from help to harm was when he cut human agency out of the loop. He began with good intentions, but his ego polluted the outcome.

  • @adamkadir3803

    @adamkadir3803

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be perfectly honest, I have no faith in people to solve their own problems. If they did right thing when it was hard, the world wouldn't be as fucked as it is now.

  • @joshuaortiz2031

    @joshuaortiz2031

    2 жыл бұрын

    nah its fucking stupid to trust people to solve their own problems. Look at the state of the world. At this point the only hope is pressing the reset button. A limited strategic nuclear exchange that decapitates the major governments of the world and kills off large swaths of the greedy, disgusting, shallow urban hordes would probably do the job and restore balance.

  • @danialyousaf6456

    @danialyousaf6456

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@adamkadir3803 that's only because people are easy to manipulate. If everyone was just a bit smarter and didn't listen to any of the shit the media or politicians pump out we'd be living in a much better world.

  • @BountyHunter-ep8jk
    @BountyHunter-ep8jk2 жыл бұрын

    “I'm not a comic book villain. Do you seriously think I would explain my master stroke to you if there were even the slightest possibility you could affect the outcome?” One of my favorite lines ever.

  • @sethwick8348

    @sethwick8348

    Жыл бұрын

    He actually says "Republic serial" villain, because in the world of Watchmen comic books don't have super heroes and super villains, as they are real things, and instead the most popular comics are about pirates and other historical adventure stories.

  • @paulgibbon5991

    @paulgibbon5991

    3 ай бұрын

    And he says that while standing in his secret Antarctic lair, complete with super-science weapons and a genetically engineered pet, while dressed in a flashy costume.

  • @TH3F4LC0Nx
    @TH3F4LC0Nx2 жыл бұрын

    "Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon."

  • @WarningBFG-isHiring

    @WarningBFG-isHiring

    Жыл бұрын

    Rorschach did comprise a lot though. He didn’t live by his own beliefs. He only stuck to his principles when absolute evil occurred.

  • @levikazama2323

    @levikazama2323

    7 ай бұрын

    i find this the stupidiest thing ever. Not all things need to be known if you reveal something and it kills billions then those deaths are on your hand. Sometimes its best to keep things secret to protect the world. He refused to see in gray and only saw black and white.

  • @Gadget-Walkmen

    @Gadget-Walkmen

    22 күн бұрын

    @@levikazama2323 That's your opinion if you see it like that but the whole point was to give out how RORSCHACH saw things, that's his ideology.

  • @filipvadas7602
    @filipvadas76022 жыл бұрын

    The scene that really summarizes everything you need to know about Ozymandias, in my opinion, is right after he succeeds (10:40) His arms up in the air in victory, with a depiction of Alexander the Great cutting the Gordian knot in the background A walking talking metaphor of an ambitious man solving a complicated issue with sheer brute force

  • @ptolemeeselenion1542

    @ptolemeeselenion1542

    2 жыл бұрын

    ... and failed.

  • @joshuaortiz2031

    @joshuaortiz2031

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ptolemeeselenion1542 how? He succeeded i every step of the way

  • @schnoz2372

    @schnoz2372

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuaortiz2031 he didn’t solve the problem he is the problem

  • @ptolemeeselenion1542

    @ptolemeeselenion1542

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuaortiz2031 For later having his plan crumble gradually once he achieved his brutal victory. This is the entire point about the double irony that underlies the existential wrestling between Ozymandias and Dr. Manhattan. While the godlike superman who boasted about having walked onto the Sun couldn't predict what Ozymandias has in pocket, the latter failed to realize he commited the exact same error than Alexander rather than truly emulating the spirit of Ramesses II.

  • @MrOctober44

    @MrOctober44

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Always hated that saying

  • @Drawnartist
    @Drawnartist2 жыл бұрын

    What a great villain. The best bad guys are the ones that make you question whether they are right in the end or wrong.

  • @Drawnartist

    @Drawnartist

    Жыл бұрын

    @pyropulse oh sorry my bad I guess this KZreadr who is obviously very intelligent and all of us who watch and liked this video are just too stupid to compare to your greatness. Because even the other heros in the story themselves agreed with the plan in the end genius Edit: the bottom line is I never said I think what he did was right. He's just more intersing to me than a mustache twirling villian who is simply evil to be evil 😈

  • @albertkurz913

    @albertkurz913

    Жыл бұрын

    @pyropulse the real point in villans are to question your own belives and thinks you trust in. They show you the other side and how it had to play out.

  • @S.D.323

    @S.D.323

    9 ай бұрын

    true but I also like a lot of purely evil villains ie joker frank underwood griffith light yagami (no he is NOT an anti villain) etc

  • @alwaysplotting2096
    @alwaysplotting20962 жыл бұрын

    And in the end who was Adrian Veidt? He was a narcissistic genius who saw himself above others, who used his massive fortune and corporate resources to force his solution to a potential cataclysm upon the world, someone who justified his atrocities using the lives of the people he hadn't killed, and was ultimately outplayed by a homeless man with a journal.

  • @khiryhelms

    @khiryhelms

    2 жыл бұрын

    Rorschach drops his journal off before he heads to the artic with Nite Owl II & Silk Spectre II. All he knew for certain at that point was that Veidt had killed the Comedian, but he didn't know why; meaning that there's nothing at all in there about Veidt's real plan. At best it would lead to him being investigated & tried for a single murder and that's only if anyone took a journal full of a madman's ramblings that couldn't be authenticated seriously to begin with. At worst, it would've been completely ignored or suppressed for the sake of maintaining the false peace between the US & the Soviets.

  • @alwaysplotting2096

    @alwaysplotting2096

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@khiryhelms Considering the emphasis the story puts on the journal at the end, I'd say we'll have to disagree.

  • @KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor

    @KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor

    2 жыл бұрын

    He doesn't consider himself above others. He considers himself equal to everyone else, with an equal stake in what transpires on the planet. Which is why he, rightfully, does what he does.

  • @nkemnoraulmanfredini7286

    @nkemnoraulmanfredini7286

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor rightfully 😐, absolutely no.

  • @alwaysplotting2096

    @alwaysplotting2096

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor He killed millions of innocent people not himself. He just goes on to enjoy his plan's success.

  • @erikconfirmed1865
    @erikconfirmed18652 жыл бұрын

    15:50 also I think its necessary to add that in the world of Watchmen the US have won the Vietnam War with the help of super heroes which (adding to the 3 term Nixon presidency) likely increased tensions even more to an extreme

  • @nani1940

    @nani1940

    Жыл бұрын

    This I think is important. It really didn't seem like diplomacy was an option because of this.

  • @vermilionaenemo
    @vermilionaenemo2 жыл бұрын

    If a villain makes you wonder whether they could be right judging them by their motives, then Ozymandias is definitely one of the 10-20 best villains of all time. After all, Watchmen is one of the all-time best comics [and my personal favourite].

  • @SouthDakotaFacts
    @SouthDakotaFacts Жыл бұрын

    My problem with Ozy is that there would have been so many better ways to save the world. Disarm missiles, build massive force fields, negation. Ozymandius seeks the drama, hence his constant admiration of Alexander. He needs to do something crazy. He let that get in the way of saving the world

  • @InitialPC

    @InitialPC

    7 ай бұрын

    thats actually touched upon in the movie, even if dr manhattan stops 99% of incoming missiles, the remaining 1% can still cause tens of millions of deaths because of just how many missiles that will be launched

  • @themakerstoolbox9688

    @themakerstoolbox9688

    5 ай бұрын

    As much as I disagree with Ozymandius' plan this is not true. Disarming the nukes would be nigh impossible. Even if it was possible more would be made. You have to remember that these people arent superheros, they are people(other than Dr Manhattan). Imagine Bill Gates or Elon Musk trying to disarm the nuclear missiles today. Imagine them teying to do it in the 60s. It would be impossible. The world of watchmen is also MUCH closer to nuclear armageddon then our world ever has. Force fields would be a decent idea but you cant put the whole world under force fields. Ecen if you did the military complex would find ways to get through or around forcefields just like any other advancement that has ever been made. It really was a near impossible question to answer. The only real question is would the bombs have flown in the first place. Would diplomacy work in the end. Would Dr. Manhattan leaving actually hring some sort of peace. Those questions are very up in the air. In the end of the day Ozy's answer was successful and I dont think the ones you put forward would be. I also dont think there was an exhaustive list of good answers either. I think we have Diplomacy (very shakey answer to the threat. Could go wrong in a million ways), Dr Manhattan leaving (puts a lot of trust in other countries to not take advantage while america is weakened), Adrians answer (millions die), and maybe a few that I am too dumb to think of.

  • @dreadkalibur1613
    @dreadkalibur16132 жыл бұрын

    I believe there's one quote that best sums him up. "The Path to Hell is paved by good intentions."

  • @aphylorne3021
    @aphylorne30212 жыл бұрын

    Ozymandias and the MCU's version of Thanos are very similar to each other. Both had good intentions and were willing to sacrifice countless lives to reach their goals. The difference is Ozymandias actually won in the end.

  • @joeparrigen4982

    @joeparrigen4982

    2 жыл бұрын

    So did Thanos. Until it was undone

  • @stefandinus7701

    @stefandinus7701

    Жыл бұрын

    "any man, woman, or child in the name of peace" That's right. I just compared peacemaker to these two

  • @bonerbreath6747

    @bonerbreath6747

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joeparrigen4982 via a time travel plot device that was and still is an absolute asspull

  • @Notsussybaka900

    @Notsussybaka900

    Жыл бұрын

    The Comedian was based of Peacemaker. And according to most EU sources, and even his own name, Veidt’s plan was reversed just like Thanos’.

  • @thephoenix4093

    @thephoenix4093

    7 ай бұрын

    thanos didn't have good intentions. he just wanted to prove himself right.

  • @jaha9329
    @jaha9329 Жыл бұрын

    I love how Ozimandias plan in original Watchmen is straight-forward but complex on the moral ground and summary of his plan in HBO series and Doomsday Clock sounds like insane gibberish.

  • @quinnholloway5400

    @quinnholloway5400

    Жыл бұрын

    He ends up sounding as mad as Rorschach sounded to others Funny isn't it?

  • @osmanyousif7849

    @osmanyousif7849

    11 ай бұрын

    I hated what the creators did to Adrian in the HBO series. Nothing against Jeremy Irons, who does what he can with the role, but considering reading the novel and seeing who Adrian was like in the show, I literally screamed, "WHO THE F**K IS THIS GUY?". Irons portrays the character very much in an expressive-animated way, when in the novel, Adrian was reserved and somber. And then comes Episode 5 of the series where we see the tape Adrian made explaining his involvement in the Squid Attack and acts very cocky and delighted in the fact that he murdered 3 Million innocent civilians. And it was at that point that I almost wanted to give up on the show, because the Adrian we see at the manor house ain't a man driven to madness after over 3 decades of solitude and his masterstroke failing to bring about the Utopia he dreamed of, but simply a choice from the creator to make him like this. And sure you'd probably say, "But of course, Adrian would have this attitude as he's a raging narcissist.", and to that I say, "Well yes, BUT ALSO NO.". Because while Adrian is a narcissist, his narcissism is more nuanced than how narcissism is portrayed in media. Because in the novel, Adrian displays characteristics that seem to contradict this profile. The man gave away his family fortune, his crime-fighting led to good in the world, and created a company to help make the world a better place. He was a philanthropist, pacifist (WAS, FYI...), and didn't do anything he was doing for financial gain. But he was however, self-absorbed and took pride in his on vanity. So while he was a narcissist, he wasn't raging with hedonism and step on those who he saw to dare take what was his, but more of the fact that he had a messiah complex that convinced himself that ONLY HE can save the world. And that was the whole theme of the original novel. Of how a person may truly and sincerely be benevolent, and help the world become a better place, there's a deeper, self-serving motivation, whether the person is conscious of it or not, to their "heroism". Therefore I find the way the creators portrayed Adrian's expression of narcissism in the show absurdly off-base. And this interpretation of his character is later amplified in episodes 8 - 9. As the show makes it seem like Adrian is in despair, not because his plan didn't lead to the Utopia he dreamed of, but that the people of the world don't know that he was the one who saved them from nuclear destruction. Adrian probably would care that much if the people of Earth knew that it was him who orchestrated the Squid Attack. But Adrian in the novel goes to great lengths to ensure that nobody would find out. Sure he tells Rorschach, Dan, and Laurie, but the three are already fugitives at that point, therefore they probably should keep their mouths shut, and Dr Manhattan would just simply not be bothered to say anything. So yeah, the creators of the show didn't understand Adrian and how complex he was and just saw him to be this cartoonish villain who has raging narcissistic qualities, let alone caring about the nuances of Adrian's character.

  • @professr9343

    @professr9343

    10 ай бұрын

    @@osmanyousif7849bruh nobody’s reading your whole rant about fictional characters . Let your ass sit alone for 30 years and see how your personality changes . This man is a human not a robot a very nutty human at that

  • @gp-1542
    @gp-1542 Жыл бұрын

    Weather or not ozymandias was “right” He killed innocent people regardless if the “ends justifies the means” There’s nothing more dangerous than a villain that believes his own righteousness

  • @osmanyousif7849

    @osmanyousif7849

    11 ай бұрын

    But Ozy isn't evil for the sake of being evil, as he genuinely tried to help saved the world. But seeing that all his efforts meant nothing, and the countries wanted blood in order to get peace, he decide that if killing the population was the only way, so be it. But even after this, he still questions if he did the right thing, because he does hold regret for it. He's not a mad-man who doesn't care. But a man who was placed in the trolley and had to make a choice between 1 life or 100 lives. So he pulled the switch and look what it got him.

  • @Gadget-Walkmen

    @Gadget-Walkmen

    11 ай бұрын

    He’s an anti-villain at most but definitely villainous due to him killing numerous innocent people.

  • @dodgsonwevegotdodgsonhere9970

    @dodgsonwevegotdodgsonhere9970

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@osmanyousif7849 Evey villain is the hero in their own story.

  • @guilledcf1547
    @guilledcf15472 жыл бұрын

    the genius of (the original) watchmen is that Ozzy's dilemma mirrors the main theme of the whole novel perfectly: that of the superhero/vigilante, the "who watches the watchmen" thing, and how legit is it to break the rules to enforce the rules -- or, in Adrian's rather extreme case, to provoke global onslaught to avoid global onslaught.

  • @LordBaktor
    @LordBaktor2 жыл бұрын

    90% of the time, when someone invokes "The Greater Good" to justify their actions, they are doing something evil.

  • @plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009

    @plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009

    2 жыл бұрын

    The greater good

  • @bastadimasta

    @bastadimasta

    Жыл бұрын

    Except for real genius

  • @thepeatboggy

    @thepeatboggy

    Жыл бұрын

    Its certainly a theme in the west , but it also makes me wonder, is “the greater good” seen as a legitimate justification in communist/socialist societies?

  • @LordBaktor

    @LordBaktor

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thepeatboggy As far as I know, that's what Communism is all about. The revolution of the proletariat, seizing the means of production, redistributing wealth and all that are done "for the greater good".

  • @iinc6290

    @iinc6290

    Жыл бұрын

    @@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 the greater good

  • @vinsanity3510
    @vinsanity35102 жыл бұрын

    For me he’s not evil per se. Just detached and inherently selfish. In his experience, all he’s ever had was himself. Teachers didn’t trust him, kids attempted to bully him, as far as he’s concerned he’s something else. They treated Jesus the same way. So he forgives them for they know not what they do, but sacrifices “others” for their salvation. Changed my mind. He’s like a really crazy type of evil person.

  • @tau-5794

    @tau-5794

    3 ай бұрын

    A good man would not sacrifice others for "their own good", he would sacrifice himself.

  • @aguy2162
    @aguy21622 жыл бұрын

    One of my absolute favorite villains. Love his account of retracing Alexander's path

  • @eddieguerrerofantasy
    @eddieguerrerofantasy2 жыл бұрын

    A very complex character who we will never stop to analyze the character and his actions, the duality of ozimandias is fascinating and one of the best character in watchmen, not to mention that is considered one of the best villain of all time

  • @erkicman
    @erkicman Жыл бұрын

    I remember reading in the forwards of one of his books that Alan Moore had no expectation that the Cold War was going to de-escalate as peacefully as it did. To him, humanity was so mad that maybe monstrous ideas were the only things that had a shot at stopping humanity’s total annihilation

  • @mattwoodard2535

    @mattwoodard2535

    9 ай бұрын

    He's more like the character he created, Ozymandias, than he realized. sm

  • @thugkermit9999
    @thugkermit99992 жыл бұрын

    That’s the great thing about the og watchmen and something the shows and spin-off just can’t recreate It’s the grey of it all The fact that we can debate if killing 3 million was a necessary thing or not speaks to the brilliance of the comic The hbo show and doomsday simply just make ozymandias a generic bad guy when it has been shown that he is a complex villain that make us question our position

  • @alejandrogonzalez9840

    @alejandrogonzalez9840

    2 жыл бұрын

    For me personally I don’t think Ozmandias came across as a generic antagonist in the HBO series and in Doomsday Clock in the series he felt more like a depressed, lonely, and bored guy in it and in Doomsday Clock he felt more…. desperate and extremely manipulative that’s what I would use to describe his character. But hey that’s just what I thought of him in both those series. I do definitely agree with all what you say about the book overall

  • @KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor

    @KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love the HBO show but they fucking RUINED ozymandias. The last episode is one of the worst things I've ever watched

  • @samcalven12

    @samcalven12

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor I have to respectfully disagree with you on the last episode

  • @KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor

    @KarkatVantasandMitunaCaptor

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@samcalven12 don't care, you're wrong

  • @judohunter1

    @judohunter1

    Жыл бұрын

    The show and doomsday didn’t make him a generic villain. If anything it shows the natural progression of a narcissist that doesn’t get that they wanted despite their power. It’s a crack down of their personal image of who they are.

  • @fool8304
    @fool83042 жыл бұрын

    I think ruling Ozymandias to be evil or otherwise by weighing the sacrifices he makes against the people he saves is the wrong way to go about it. Quantifying body counts is a decent way of comparing the evil of to people who are already considered to be as such, but many causalities have occurred from Superman's negligence no doubt, or the weapons Tony Stark sold before he became Iron Man. This doesn't call into question the heroic goodness of their characters, because they clearly value those people, out of sympathy for their individual lives, and exhibit remorse. So just as someone who causes harm isn't necessarily evil, someone who causes virtue isn't always virtuous. Ozymandias sees world peace less like a humanitarian necessity, and more like a means of confirming his existence to himself, the greatest dignity any person could attain, and one that he's entitled to. He understands that his powers come with a great responsibility, but believes that _he_ is the only person that he's responsible for. Everything he does is for a self-imposed life purpose. And having a life purpose, even a selfish one, isn't an evil thing, but that does not make it a rationality for deliberate mass murder. That's not the sort of thing a good person can so confidently justify.

  • @alexarkoette564

    @alexarkoette564

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree. He wasn’t utilitarian by nature or anything he just wanted to save the world and manufactured a way to do it. He was excited by chaos cause it meant he could bring order. In the original run I think it’s fair to question if he’s really the Smartest Man in the World because the only person we have to base that on is himself. Otherwise he didn’t genetically alter the squid or make teleportation the companies he made did. He may just be an average man, but very lucky who convinced himself the world was on his shoulders.

  • @lilkingg82
    @lilkingg822 жыл бұрын

    Now THIS is a great choice for a villian. I'm intrigued to see your analysis on, say Shredder? The Merovingian, perhaps even the Architect. Thrawn or Tarkin(if you havent done that yet) would be realllllly good. Arishem would be interesting too

  • @grimmettcleaningservices7003

    @grimmettcleaningservices7003

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree with all your suggestions, especially the way this guy breaks down the characters. I’ve been subscribed for a few months now, this is a fascinating channel.

  • @lilkingg82

    @lilkingg82

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@grimmettcleaningservices7003 This is quite the gem of a channel, I must say

  • @Notsussybaka900

    @Notsussybaka900

    Жыл бұрын

    Thrawn is quite similar to Veidt.

  • @lilkingg82

    @lilkingg82

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Notsussybaka900 On an extremely surface level look at the two, yes they are similar. But in the way Vader would be similar to maybe movie Thanos

  • @shadejakva9367
    @shadejakva93672 жыл бұрын

    I remember this villain, Ozymandias is a well-written, classic depiction of a villain who fully believes the ends justify the means, and he's willing to kill countless people to do it in a truly horrific manner to make that point. Lessee... ones I'd like to see... -Ultimate Despair from Danganronpa(spoilers on their identity) -Dr. Raymond Cocteau and Simon Phoenix from Demolition Man -Dr. Robotnik (film version)

  • @youtubeneedstochange4414

    @youtubeneedstochange4414

    5 ай бұрын

    I would love to see him cover AOSTH Robotnik as an April Fool's joke.

  • @NK-22
    @NK-222 жыл бұрын

    Id love for you to do Handsome Jack, I think he's a very complex villian who has good points but wrong executions.

  • @SavageShrike

    @SavageShrike

    2 жыл бұрын

    Please!

  • @yorozuyadark
    @yorozuyadark2 жыл бұрын

    Please do The Comedian soon, he's a fascinating and vile character in himself

  • @Thespeedrap

    @Thespeedrap

    2 жыл бұрын

    All the characters in that movie were evil including Dr.Manhattan and Rorschach.

  • @mistletoe3343

    @mistletoe3343

    2 жыл бұрын

    what about Niteowl, I wouldn't call him evil.

  • @Thespeedrap

    @Thespeedrap

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mistletoe3343 He wasn't evil he was just Batman without the wealth and fame.

  • @Thespeedrap

    @Thespeedrap

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PortlandSucksss I didn't say all the characters I was addressing the main ones that had it with the world's problem.

  • @Thespeedrap

    @Thespeedrap

    Жыл бұрын

    @Anti SJW He was a vigilante he used murder to get his point across and that was wrong.They say 2 wrongs don't make a right.

  • @huntermcbucket8351
    @huntermcbucket83512 жыл бұрын

    I think an amazing villain that vile should do is Carl Denim from both the original and Peter Jackson’s King Kong, such a vile man and one who will sacrifice anyone to get what he wants

  • @nickasaro8789

    @nickasaro8789

    Жыл бұрын

    Good choice. Very underrated pick. Was just watching the Jackson Kong a couple of days ago and was thinking about recommending Denim for an episode. His sleaziness knows no bounds.

  • @Aquamayne100
    @Aquamayne1002 жыл бұрын

    This Channel is the best! Great villain pick and ethical conundrum!

  • @nicokrasnow1851
    @nicokrasnow18512 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video. This analysis on Ozimandias makes me recall what I thought about Taravangian from the Stormlight Archive.

  • @jacobglaser7773
    @jacobglaser77732 жыл бұрын

    Analyzing Evil: Mr. Blonde from Reservoir Dogs

  • @andrewemerson7861
    @andrewemerson78612 жыл бұрын

    Loved the vid, can next be Light Yagami from Death Note?

  • @lisboah

    @lisboah

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ironically, while Light didn't kill as many people as Ozymandias, in my opinion at least, he's far worse as an individual.

  • @theambianceman4728
    @theambianceman47282 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for making this, I had requested it in some of your previous videos and was so happy that you finally made it, as always well composed video. I personally view what ozymandias did as an evil act that stemmed from "good" motivations. Although ozymandias's ego played a large role in his decision, he truly believed that what he was doing was the right thing to do unlike other villains who commit evil acts for money or power. Despite this there is no way to defend mass murder but only to reason out the motivations behind it. Ozymandias has always been one of my favorite villains (although I only truly see the movie and og comic version to the the true versions) and the fact that people are still talking about this all these years later shows how well written he was.

  • @mikewilson858
    @mikewilson8582 жыл бұрын

    I actually liked how the movie portrayed Adrian’s plan. It makes sense that the works would unite in fear of Dr. Manhattan.

  • @Solitaire001

    @Solitaire001

    3 ай бұрын

    I agree. Unlike the squid, Dr. Manhattan was a known quantity and people knew how dangerous he could be if he he became a threat. One of the things I liked about "Doomsday Clock" is that showed just how powerful Dr. Manhattan actually is. Despite the assembled power of the heroes going against him they couldn't do anything against him.

  • @animesempai0
    @animesempai02 жыл бұрын

    I know this is probably unpopular opinion, but Ozymandias did what was necessary because humans in that world was never going to put aside their differences and unite and sometimes you have to save humanity from itself. Ozymandias is one of my favorite villains ever BTW. Also for a suggestion, if you do watch anime or manga, I would love for you to do a video on Aizen from bleach. That would be a incredible analyzing evil video.

  • @petermj1098

    @petermj1098

    2 жыл бұрын

    lol That's delusional. There is never an era of peace in history- especially in Alexander the Great's era. Governments will always fight some other group for something- it doesn't matter if the reason makes total sense or not. That's the military-industrial complex

  • @assmuddafukkinhole2
    @assmuddafukkinhole22 жыл бұрын

    *"I did the right thing, didn't I? It all worked out in the end."* A man too damn smart and narcissistic for his own good and everyone else's sake. When Luthor laughed at his plan in Doomsday Clock, that should've humbled Ozy.

  • @jon1819

    @jon1819

    2 жыл бұрын

    Doomsday clock sucked balls

  • @charzanboo9940

    @charzanboo9940

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, Ozymandias did achieve his objective in the end. What's Luthor's track record?

  • @thomasdemarteau6367

    @thomasdemarteau6367

    Жыл бұрын

    In the end ? Nothing ever ends

  • @kman9884

    @kman9884

    Жыл бұрын

    @@charzanboo9940 If Superman writers didn’t dickride Big Blue and imbue him with plot armor, Luthor would be much more successful.

  • @chriswoodard9904
    @chriswoodard99042 жыл бұрын

    I love how thorough you are with the characters that you do like every one of the episodes I watch I mean my God you are so with the research the in-depth character development I mean it's insane like you have to have a PhD in like psychology or something either way incredible work keep up the awesome videos and I look forward to watching more in the future

  • @PipByMac
    @PipByMac2 жыл бұрын

    What a great choice for a video! I genuinely look forward to your new ones!

  • @jasonchen9645
    @jasonchen96452 жыл бұрын

    That fight scene in the beginning with the comedian was epic!, the way it was filmed. I don't know how the actor didn't get more roles after that! I freaking love that movie!

  • @artman2oo3
    @artman2oo32 жыл бұрын

    On the Japan analogy: would they have eventually surrendered had we not dropped the a-bombs? Maybe. Eventually. But consider this: after the first bomb, which wrought unprecedented death and destruction in a single event that Japan - or the entire world - had ever seen, they still didn’t surrender. Even after *that* . It took two of those bombs to force them to surrender. This proves that it literally took more than an atomic bomb to get them to surrender. So what does that say about any other available method? Nuclear and atomic warfare are horrible and I hope the Earth never sees that again. Those events were horrible. I wish they hadn’t happened. I wish all those people hadn’t died. But it does make you question how many thousands or millions more would have died had those bombs not been dropped. Anyway, I liked this video, very thought-provoking.

  • @junko4166

    @junko4166

    2 жыл бұрын

    They didn't surrender because they had no idea the first blast even happened until shortly before the second one came. Hiroshima got completely destroyed with a single blast, a level of destruction never before seen, leaving no way for the survivors to communicate with central command. I do believe the nukes were necessary. Pre-nuke Japan was capable of evils that would make the SS high command blush. It's a shame the americans didn't obliterate a military target instead of 2 civilian centers though.

  • @noahbeaty3

    @noahbeaty3

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@junko4166 they were military targets, they produced military goods. Civilians were given pamphlets via airdrop to evacuate from the US.

  • @comradesam3382

    @comradesam3382

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not so fun fact, Japan only surrendered because they didnt know how many more of those they had, they taught that US had hundreds of those and were in the proces of debating surrender when they found out about the second bomb, whitch solidified

  • @jonathanborg6242

    @jonathanborg6242

    2 жыл бұрын

    Even after the second bomb was dropped there was a planned coup of the emperor to avert the shame of surrendering. Many high ranking officials and even the Japanese people would have rather died than surrender. It would have been a very long and bloody path had they chose not to drop those bombs, make no mistake.

  • @houseoftoussaint9609

    @houseoftoussaint9609

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bullshit I say. The blockade was working. Nothing was reaching the island of Japan. The air space was entirely in American control. The skies were completely free of resistance so that bombings and firebombs went on uninterrupted. You tell me how an enemy with no means to fight, no means of sustenance for their army let alone their people, and constant air raids on military and civilian targets are going to pose a threat to an invasion of Japan, if an invasion were even necessary. Even US military leaders disagreed with the usage of the nuclear weapons. They weren’t necessary. People have been selling this for decades and when I heard it, I could smell the bullshit as a teenager. It was a political move. That’s it. Americans can lie to themselves all day everyday. Nuclear proliferation. Non state organizations and terrorists getting their hands on nuclear weapons. What a world we are living in today. Worth it? Hah. Should have kept that fucking genie in the lamp.

  • @EllisHCN
    @EllisHCN2 жыл бұрын

    Another fantastic video, thank you very much for all of the time and effort you pour into these, Vile!!

  • @quellehellam
    @quellehellam2 жыл бұрын

    You are truly the best vile! Amazing analyzation of pop cultures most interesting and misunderstood villains. Thanks you for all the hours you put in!

  • @Reyma777
    @Reyma7772 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always. I would like to suggests the following villains for analysis: 1. Frank Underwood/Francis Urquhart (House of Cards) 2. Light Yagami (Deathnote) 3. Petyr Baelish (A Song of Ice and Fire) 4. Frank Gallagher ( Shameless US) 5. Marty & Wendy Bryde (Ozark)

  • @jackalope2302

    @jackalope2302

    2 жыл бұрын

    interesting choices. Especially Light and Mr. Gallagher

  • @Reyma777

    @Reyma777

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jackalope2302 Frank Gallagher is a narcissistic, alcoholic, hedonists, who is self-serving. Throughout the series he is basically a disease that manipulates, corrupts, exploits and destroys whenever possible.

  • @kennandunn7533

    @kennandunn7533

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure I'd call Frank "evil" exactly, rather just a selfish asshole.

  • @ck891
    @ck8912 жыл бұрын

    Yessssss!!! Been waiting for this one. Thanks so much V.E

  • @kvdrr
    @kvdrr2 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate that you meticulously go over every single relevant piece of media related to the villain being examined. And that you always start your first sentence in lip-sync with the villian :D

  • @hildaenjoyer8862
    @hildaenjoyer88622 жыл бұрын

    The greatest comic book villain ever, and by quite some distance. Not many villains are able to convey their beliefs in such a compelling way and to the extent that the ‘heroes’ feel they have to let him go because taking his victory away from him would make the world a worse place, despite him essentially murdering millions in cold blood. His ideology is actually driven be a sense of righteousness and is molded by his environment, where human life is seen as cheap and he believes humanity is doomed to apocalypse if left to its own devices. He is a total piece of shit morally, but he’s acting rational within the framework world leaders operate in. His actions aren’t that different to the atomic bombings of Japan, 100,000s killed to save millions. Fantastic character and not one we’ll ever see in stuff like the MCU.

  • @ajiththomas2465

    @ajiththomas2465

    2 жыл бұрын

    The difference though is that the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't the reasons why Imperial Japan surrendered. The monarchy and nobility of Imperial Japan didn't give a single iota of a shit about the people lost in Hiroshima and Nagasaki because the vast majority of them were poor people and peasants, who the Imperial Japan monarchy saw as unimportant as ants. They would've gladly sacrificed millions of Japanese peasants into the meat grinder if it would allow Imperial Japan a victory. That is how canyon wide the socioeconomic gap between the leaders of Japan and the people of Japan were. The real reason that Imperial Japan surrendered was because of their losing naval battles against Soviet Russia. When their naval loss to Soviet Russia was inevitable, that's when Imperial Japan threw in the towel. Imperial Japan simply used the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as the quote "official" reason why they surrendered rather than their naval loss to Russia because they could at least portray themselves as a victim with the former. Had America not dropped the nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki but instead simply helped Russia crush the Imperial Japanese forces over air and sea, then Imperial Japan would've surrendered all the same.

  • @94462

    @94462

    2 жыл бұрын

    You literally described Thanos to a T from the MCU

  • @tylerd80495

    @tylerd80495

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@94462 Right, but that version of Thanos was created in the last 10 years. Original Thanos was just in love with Death and wanted to show his love by killing half the universe.

  • @PlaNkie1993

    @PlaNkie1993

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well said sir

  • @Teddy-kv1bf

    @Teddy-kv1bf

    2 жыл бұрын

    A fellow fe player 👏🏿👀

  • @chadlarson4149
    @chadlarson41492 жыл бұрын

    Your greatest challenge still remains: Vic Mackey, from The Shield.

  • @OlinCaprison
    @OlinCaprison2 жыл бұрын

    One thing I love about moores depiction is although Adrian is a narcissist moore doesn’t depict him as such. He shows Adrian from Adrians perspective which I think is one of the biggest reasons people love debating about this character

  • @rhettoric5796
    @rhettoric57962 жыл бұрын

    Yes! So glad you're covering this character!

  • @melvinmbuthia883
    @melvinmbuthia883 Жыл бұрын

    You always do an in depth analysis of all your character, as usual great content & love your work

  • @DutchGotAPlan
    @DutchGotAPlan2 жыл бұрын

    Finally, he made it! Great video!

  • @kringslayerkai3044
    @kringslayerkai30442 жыл бұрын

    Hello, and welcome to todays episode of analyzing evil. Featuring: The Vile Eye from youtube.

  • @alejandrogonzalez9840
    @alejandrogonzalez98402 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video Ozymandias has always been a very interesting and complex character that I can’t help but like

  • @MrMaxman93
    @MrMaxman93 Жыл бұрын

    I haven't visited your channel for about 6 months now and when I come back I see even more followers, and more amazing content! Im happy to see your success. I have learned a lot from your channel! Not to mention, its entertaining as hell!

  • @huldrrrr9486
    @huldrrrr94862 жыл бұрын

    This was a beautiful analysis of a fascinating character, great job as usual! For further consideration: Angel Eyes from The Good The Bad and The Ugly, Indio from For a A Few Dollars More and Jack Meriddew from Lord of the Flies

  • @leomilmet854

    @leomilmet854

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jack Merridew is especially interesting! However, I’d like to add two more to the list from some of those very works: Tuco, from the Good The Bad and The Ugly And Roger from Lord of the Flies From what I recall, Roger makes Jack look like a sweetheart by the end of that extremely disturbing novel.

  • @huldrrrr9486

    @huldrrrr9486

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@leomilmet854 Somehow I could never really see Tuco as evil, he is more of a anti-villain or anti-hero in my eyes, but he could be an interesting character to analyse either way! Yeah Roger is a really interesting counterpart to Jack. If Jack represents the Stalins of the world, Roger represents the Ted Bundys. Lord of the Flies and the Inner Darkness of Man as a whole could just get its own video really haha!

  • @TDenterpriser
    @TDenterpriser2 жыл бұрын

    For the final season of better call Saul analyze chuck McGill

  • @coreypayne261
    @coreypayne2612 жыл бұрын

    Hey OMG. I am so stoked and happy that you chose Ozymandias. When I looked on there and saw that you actually did it I couldn’t believe it I was ecstatic!! So I wanted to say thank you so much that means a lot to me so thank you Vile eye !! you’re the bomb. I absolutely enjoyed here in your take and your voice on one of the coolest villains in my opinion ever it made my whole week bro thank you!

  • @BootScootBoogie
    @BootScootBoogie2 жыл бұрын

    Love your work btw. I haven’t had a chance to watch thru all of this yet, but I feel a video on The Comedian would be a great companion piece to this.

  • @zeo4481
    @zeo44812 жыл бұрын

    Best villains are always the ones that are right in their beliefs but wrong in their methods!

  • @rascalguy5673
    @rascalguy56732 жыл бұрын

    One of the things that you are leaving out of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings is Truman. He originally did not want to use the bombs on Japan. What changed his mind was not just the perceived amount of American or Japanese lives saved, but the Soviet Union joining the battle. Unlike FDR, Truman did not trust Stalin. He did not want Japan to be split up in the same manner as Germany. The bombs were dropped in succession because the Soviet Union was about to have troops land in Japan. He felt if Japan surrendered before these troops arrived, Stalin would have no grounds to have any say about what to do with Japan. The distrust between USA and the USSR started earlier than people would usually think. While Veidt's cause was for global peace; Truman's was to protect the US from Stalin.

  • @illamillers1813

    @illamillers1813

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think in addition to this there was the pressure that if he would have gone forward with an invasion of Japan when we had already spent all the time and research on the creation of the nuclear bomb, the public would have blamed him for every additional american life lost in the effort. not to mention the fact that the war had been going on for years and people wanted it to end, any perceived undue exacerbation or less potent half measure may have been met with derision and scorn. not to say what truman did was right, just that it's kind of an insane position to be in. food for thought.

  • @anthonyscheibmeir2444

    @anthonyscheibmeir2444

    2 жыл бұрын

    There was also the Japanese Code of the Samurai. The Japanese at the time saw it as dishonorable to surrender and would in fact kill themselves before surrendering to their opponent. This naturally would make for a ruthless opponent

  • @Fedorchik1536

    @Fedorchik1536

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is a complete bullshit. First of all, Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings were conducted on 6 and 9 of August, while Soviet union joined war on pacific on 9 of August with a start of Manchurian offensive operation. This operation was on the territories of modern day Mongolia and China and was the only Soviet offensive against Japan. It lasted from 9th August to 2nd of Setember and ended when Japan surrendered to Allies. Second, Germnany at the time was occupied by Allied Forces and splitting it into two wasn't a thing until 1949.

  • @rascalguy5673

    @rascalguy5673

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Fedorchik1536 That was the reason on August 6 and August 9 the bombs were dropped. He didn’t want the Soviet union joining the war. Even though Germany wasn’t split up until later, it still had Soviet occupation. I saw it on the History Channel.

  • @premiersportingkc3443

    @premiersportingkc3443

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry, but this is hogwash. The D-Day landings comprised of 5,000 landing craft. The Soviet Union had 100 landing craft in total, given to them by the lend-lease act. The Soviet's pacific fleet consisted of measly 15 destroyers and 2 cruisers. They also had no naval invasion doctrine established in their military code. Simply put, the Soviets had no feasible way of making it to Japan unless it was on American vessels, meaning America was in the driver's seat when it came to the invasion. The A-bombs were dropped because Truman knew he had no chance of winning reelection if one million American soldiers died invading Japan (based on estimates given to him by the military command), and the public later found out he had a secret weapon he decided not to use. Don't look for conspiracies when there are none

  • @keepwatchingthat
    @keepwatchingthat2 жыл бұрын

    I love your videos absolutely never disappoints and I'm happy to see I'm not alone in it. I hope even more come to enjoy.

  • @Darkvega2k7
    @Darkvega2k72 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you added the events of Doomsday Clock to this. I loved that story arc.

  • @owenrivers3348
    @owenrivers33482 жыл бұрын

    I literally was just thinking about him yesterday.

  • @ozymandias3097

    @ozymandias3097

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking of you as well ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • @kemisomolefhi5638
    @kemisomolefhi56382 жыл бұрын

    The version from the series was scarier, Zack's version was cold but not overly sociopathic like the Jeremy Irons take on the character. I should really get to reading the books. I would still love a take on the Akatsuki and Itachi Uchiha from the Naruto manga and anime series. Loved this one.

  • @facuuu2809

    @facuuu2809

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love how Irons characterized him as someone with such an ego that he doesn't care for others, it makes you far more scared and makes him more tetric

  • @SubZero-hs9xc

    @SubZero-hs9xc

    Жыл бұрын

    Na the obe from the series is not ozy

  • @Zekrel
    @Zekrel2 жыл бұрын

    Ozymandius is one of my two favorite characters from the Watchmen universe. I was really glad that you used other media rather than just the original comics. For a future video, I hope you’ll analyze Jason Voorhees since you’ve already analyzed most the other iconic horror villains.

  • @kilssj2250
    @kilssj2250 Жыл бұрын

    Nice use of the Aria da Capo. Everytime I hear it I feel so nostalgic and soothed. It's a nice tune and reminds me of Hannibal ^_^.

  • @Malto77
    @Malto772 жыл бұрын

    You should do Verbal Kent from The Usual Suspects

  • @JuanMartinez-tx5bh
    @JuanMartinez-tx5bh2 жыл бұрын

    you should do one on johan liebert

  • @TheKeyser94
    @TheKeyser942 жыл бұрын

    Ozymandias is basically Moore take on Lex Luthor, hell, even in the Prequels books, they frame the death of his parents and the death of his secretary as suspicious, even Adrian stating that the death of his secretary was needed sacrifice, but Adrian not began to fight crime for the goodness of his heart, but because the murder of his lover, the only woman that he ever loved.

  • @SubZero-hs9xc

    @SubZero-hs9xc

    Жыл бұрын

    Is not lex Luthor Is a subvert of the evil genius from the superhero comics in general

  • @TheKeyser94

    @TheKeyser94

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SubZero-hs9xc The problem with that The Watchmen originally was going to be a DC comic, with Batman, Superman and other superheroes, but DC rejected the idea so Moore created his own heroes, the only analogue that come to mind for Qzymandias is Lex Luthor, hell, DC Comics did this New 52, were Lex united the Justice League for a while, but of course, the old guard was piss off because they ruined their nice fantasy of the paragon of justice Superman, even that they didn't change the status quo as much, so DC have to kill him and bring back the post crisis Superman but now playing a family with Lois Lane and being a daddy.

  • @SubZero-hs9xc

    @SubZero-hs9xc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheKeyser94 no The watchmen comics Should have have had tge charltron comics characters Like the question, blue bettle or the peacemaker and captain atom ( Rorschach, note owl, comedian, dr Manhattan) And captain atom

  • @TheKeyser94

    @TheKeyser94

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SubZero-hs9xc But Alan Moore reference himself including Superman and Batman in The Watchmen, no sideline hero.

  • @SubZero-hs9xc

    @SubZero-hs9xc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheKeyser94 ho he said That he was going to deconstruct heroes lije Superman and Batman. Superman the super being like doctor Manhattan Rorschach like a realistico Batman But they are based by the sentinels

  • @ryanrizzo4869
    @ryanrizzo48692 жыл бұрын

    One of favorite antagonists of all time! Good form! May I request an Analyzing Evil on Carter J. Burke from Aliens? I feel like the corporate piece of dogmeat deserves a video! Thank you for all you do! Keep up the great work!

  • @TheCrimsonOrchestra
    @TheCrimsonOrchestra2 жыл бұрын

    Love your work. Would like to see your interpretation of the Villian(s) in the Count of Monte Cristo. There are four or five characters whose actions might be interesting to examine. Count Fernand Mondego - Best Friend & Jealous Betrayer Danglars - Conspiracy Architect Gerard de Villefort - Corrupt Magistrate Armand Dorleac - Prison Warden The main character, Edmund Dantes, could be considered evil as well due to the extreme measures he undertakes & the collateral damage he leaves on his quest to exact revenge upon those listed above.

  • @jackofhearts6952

    @jackofhearts6952

    2 жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite books honestly I was totally with all his revenge till he made the dad of the women he liked go literally mad. But also he still deserves it and just because you have close relationships with others shouldn’t mean you can’t be punished.

  • @deomartinez77
    @deomartinez772 жыл бұрын

    This channel rules!!! What a great pick. I am still waiting on *Lex Luthor from Smallville, Thulsa Doom from Conan the Barbarian, Zeke and Eren Yeager from Attack on Titan, Sauron from Lord of the Rings and Magneto from X-men*

  • @TheGreatTimeLord80
    @TheGreatTimeLord802 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much been waiting on this one I even requested a while back

  • @gamerstheater1187
    @gamerstheater11872 жыл бұрын

    I love how the music in each video fits with each villain

  • @evildead0.575
    @evildead0.5752 жыл бұрын

    Can you do an analyzing evil for homelander

  • @futurewario9591

    @futurewario9591

    2 жыл бұрын

    And Titan or Tighten from MegaMind.

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks33382 жыл бұрын

    This guy beyond deserves to be on this list.

  • @dravidiantommylinson3880
    @dravidiantommylinson38802 жыл бұрын

    Been waiting for this one.

  • @NuclearRockstarMD
    @NuclearRockstarMD2 жыл бұрын

    I have been waiting for this one too!

  • @thepawchoe2749
    @thepawchoe27492 жыл бұрын

    It's about time we got this guy.

  • @Maxwell03
    @Maxwell032 жыл бұрын

    Speaking of Jeremy Irons, you should do a video on Humbert Humbert from Lolita, the most chilling villain in literature and film.

  • @robertparker6280
    @robertparker62802 жыл бұрын

    I FINALLY recently watched the Watchmen movie for the first time. Man I *LOVED* it! Would watch it again in a heartbeat. Was suprised at the twist too. Also Ozymadias really made me think of his intentions.

  • @warrenreid6109
    @warrenreid6109 Жыл бұрын

    I love this channel. Your approach on these controversial figures is great. I would like you to do a video on Lando Millari of Babylon 5.

  • @leomilmet854
    @leomilmet8542 жыл бұрын

    Some of the best villains (some are much more LOW KEY villains than you usually cover but just as excellent) you haven’t covered yet: 1. Sergeant Dixon (3 Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri) 2. Richard Strickland (The Shape Of Water) 3. Gunnery Sergeant Hartmann (Full Metal Jacket) 4. The Zodiac Killer (Zodiac) 5. The Bosses from Horrible Bosses 6. Chuck Bass from Gossip Girl 7. Diana Christensen (Network) 8. Emperor Inoue (Silence) 9. Daisy Domergue (The Hateful 8) 10. Bonnie and Clyde (are these murderous bank robbers “evil”? You decide). 11. Bev Keane and Father Paul (Midnight Mass) 12. Harry Lime (The Third Man) 13. Charles Foster Kane (Citizen Kane), and the relationship of that character to yellow journalist William Randolph Hearst - is that much pride and ego “evil”? 14. Richard Hoover from Little Miss Sunshine. He may not be EVIL in the traditional sense. He is not a murderer or rapist or even a career criminal. But the way he treats his own daughter for much of the film is so inexcusable that his flaws make for a fascinating “philosophical antagonist” as Michael Arndt himself said on the bonus features. 15. Phyllis Dietrichson (Double Indemnity) 16. Eve Harrington (All About Eve) 17. Brandon (Rope) 18. Bruno Antony (Strangers On A Train) 19. Charlie Oakley (Shadow of a Doubt) 20. Ray, Ken, and Harry (In Bruges) 21. Doug Macray and James Coughlin (The Town) 22. Mark Zuckerberg (as portrayed in THE SOCIAL NETWORK-I don’t know enough about the real guy to know if he counts as evil) 23. Col. Nathan R Jessup (A Few Good Men) 24. Lt. Jonathan Kendrick (A Few Good Men) 25. Ed Kemper (Mindhunter)

  • @deadpoolshark7000

    @deadpoolshark7000

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is such a great list I’d be surprised if he doesn’t have some of these planned already

  • @leomilmet854

    @leomilmet854

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@deadpoolshark7000 thank you! It started with my idea that the people he analyzes need not be the WORST HUMANS ON THE PLANET in their respective films in order to be fascinating. And also…some of these guys (Richard Hoover, Kane, Chuck Bass) are hard to define as EVIL but they have really warped mindsets that I think would be so cool for this guy (IDEK The Vile Eye’s real name) to analyze. I’d also LOVE to see an analysis of literally everyone in the novel Crime and Punishment (Marmeladov, Luzhin, Svidrigailov, Porfiry, of course Raskolnikov) but that is one VERY tall order LOL. At the very least I hope to see either Col. Jessup, Sgt. Hartmann, Sgt. Dixon, Diana from Network, Inoue from Silence, and/or Charlie Oakley. I feel like those are the MOST evil with the most to say about the issue. Hell, I’d be down for a dual analysis of the evils of the Catholic missionaries in Japan AND of the anti-Christian establishment of the Tokugawa shogunate. Silence is probably my second favorite Scorsese film after Goodfellas and maybe Taxi Driver TBH. For me, it could be the most underrated film ever made by a director who has been so thoroughly inducted into the canon

  • @leomilmet854

    @leomilmet854

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@deadpoolshark7000 And, since you showed interest, I took one guy off because I didn’t want the list to be dominated by Kubrick and military figures, but Paths Of Glory’s Gen. Broulard (George Macready) or Gen. Mireau (Adolphe Menjou) are two more of my favorite villains ever.

  • @339gabriel
    @339gabriel2 жыл бұрын

    HOLY SHIT HE FULFILLED MY REQUEST THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!

  • @ghostsofwargow2511
    @ghostsofwargow25112 жыл бұрын

    I loved the movie, I’ve rewatched it a dozen times, never gets old.

  • @carlo6670
    @carlo66702 жыл бұрын

    Can you do an analysis of the following characters: - Sosuke Aizen (Bleach) - Tracy Flick (Election) - Sgt. Hartman (Full Metal Jacket) - Margaret White (Carrie)

  • @MrDman21
    @MrDman212 жыл бұрын

    Ozymandias was on some Thanos level shit. (Not the comics version who was simping for Death) but he actually thought killing millions of people would bring world peace. You gotta admire his ambition, it's just the execution of his plan than was messed up.

  • @animefan77
    @animefan772 жыл бұрын

    Do judge doom from who framed Roger Rabbit

  • @btay2471
    @btay24712 жыл бұрын

    Great as always. Id love to see a V from V for Vendetta episode!

  • @alexanderwinn9407
    @alexanderwinn9407 Жыл бұрын

    Just like Thanos, Ozzy's status as hero or villain relies on one thing: do you believe his plan will actually work long-term? They're both so charismatic that they can sell you on it, but if you really think about it, both plans break down very quickly.

  • @lesserspottedmugwump.363
    @lesserspottedmugwump.3632 жыл бұрын

    Great videos Eye, I would like to see “The kurgan” from Highlander. He’s a cool character, but maybe obviously evil.

  • @Yggi11

    @Yggi11

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Maybe"??

  • @lesserspottedmugwump.363

    @lesserspottedmugwump.363

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Yggi11 “Happy Halloween ladies”. To nuns. Obviously a saint.

  • @futurewario9591
    @futurewario95912 жыл бұрын

    THE VILE EYE 👁️: DO AN ANALYSISING EVIL EPISODE ON TIGHTEN OR TITAN FROM MEGAMIND!

  • @beanofsteel
    @beanofsteel2 жыл бұрын

    Another great video. Love the content. Suggestions: Alexander Luthor, Dr. Victor Von Doom, Magneto, Darkseid, Apocalypse, General Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross, Brainiac, General Zod

  • @Solitaire001

    @Solitaire001

    3 ай бұрын

    I think Alexander Luthor, Jr. would be a very interesting villain to analyze. What's interesting about him is that in the novelization of "Crisis on Infinite Earths" is that it portrays him as someone who has little connection to life since he was only alive for a few days (where he grew from an infant to an adult). Then, in "Infinite Crisis" they showed that he had motives similar Ozimandias and was just as callas about the death of people. His plans involved galaxy-wide manipulation of events. Unlike his father, Alexander Luthor of Earth-Three who was the sole superhero on Earth-Three, Alexander Luthor, Jr. evolved into a villain. In several scenes they show him destroying entire versions of Earth without concern for the billions of lives that he has ended. When the Psycho Pirate mentions the dying emotions of those Luthor has killed, he mentions that he planted the garden and he has every right to tend to it. At one point, Luthor looked at a version of Earth and then casually tossed it aside to be destroyed.

  • @Keandros
    @Keandros2 жыл бұрын

    This reminds me of the Kashyyk Rakatan Computer in Kotor 1. The dilemmas it presents, particularly the one about breaking enemy codes, deciding to save a city now or wipe out the majority of the enemy forces in one stroke. Another dilemma was whether or not to allow an enemy attack to happen as it would unite your people or save loves but risk your people overthrowing you later. An Analyzing Evil on Revan would be awesome. More on his actions before and after kotor 1, as kotor is based on player choice, although the light choices are considered canon.

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