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@danielsantiagourtado3430

5 ай бұрын

Love your work vile! Happy holidays! You're amazing! Please do father from fmab 🎅🎅🎅🎄🎄🎄❤️❤️❤️❤️

@newbornviking9721

5 ай бұрын

Analyzing evil; Stan Edgar from The boys

@carriekube7357

5 ай бұрын

Happy Holidays TVE. Here's hoping that we get to see an episode on Sideshow Bob.

@xavenstelmack1411

5 ай бұрын

Hey Vile, I would like to see you cover more cartoon villains. Here are some suggestions. Horde Prime from She-Ra and The Princesses of Power. King Andrias and The Core from Amphibia. Slade from Teen Titans Aku from Samurai Jack. Emperor Belos from The Owl House.

@spawnofragnarok9267

5 ай бұрын

Please do the Analyzing EViL video on Aries from God of war

A little known fact about The Vile Eye is that he's actually the funniest person on KZread. Proof: "Hello, everyone," syncing up to the characters in question

@johnnybensonitis7853

5 ай бұрын

Haha no doubt!! I remember learning about the funny man behind the channel back during April Fool's, too. Shit threw me for a loop, it was literally the last thing I expected but goddamn was it funny.

@chonkyseal7164

5 ай бұрын

His april fools are goated.

@joshwelker3507

5 ай бұрын

Best type of intro imo

@xemyk359

5 ай бұрын

2+ years watching this channel and i never noticed! Excuse me while i rewatch the entire catalog for confirmation

@vojtaliska1430

5 ай бұрын

He subtly hints at the fact that he is behind all the evil in this and other worlds.

The fact eren didnt discuss this with his friends before and worked together is a callback to the forrest with levi squad. He had a choice between trusting his friends or his own power and last time he chose the friends they all died. Maybe thats why he never told them.

@crumpscrumbs

4 ай бұрын

Oh my god dude, I totally forgot about that. I don't think that's the case though because he must've seen that timeline and saw it fail, hence why he didn't go through with it.

@locool100

3 ай бұрын

I was just thinking about saying this in my own comment!

@mariocristogoat4931

2 ай бұрын

Not only that, but when he’s in the cave and Rod is about to crush them Levi gives him the same choice and he chooses himself and saves everyone.

@goofygrandlouis6296

Ай бұрын

Eren is basically a Japanese "Ozymandias" (Watchmen)

@paperpersona1243

Ай бұрын

Same when theyre all under in the crystal cavern about to be crushed by rob reiss. His friends were planning on trying to charge out with their ODM Gear, a decision we saw would end in death since Keny's squad tried to do the same. Instead of trusting in his friends he sees the armor bottle and says something like "for once I want to believe in myself." And it works! He saves his friends with his own strength! That scene really was a character building moment for Eren, it showed he doesnt have to rely on his friends to accomplish his goals!

One caveat I think is significant to this thought process is that Eren did not just see the future, he became untethered to localization in time. It wasn't just that he knew what Yimir's end plan was, it was that he was simultaneously living through every moment of the plan. He may have been misrepresenting his condition, but his experience of it was that the rumbling was already happening, just as Mikasa was already killing him, just as he was already apologizing to his friends, just as he was already sending Dina to eat his mother, just as he was already fighting Reiner and Bert at the wall, just as he was already convincing his dad to steal the founder's power. There wasn't, in his explanation, a point to make a decision as he was reduced to a role with the appearance of personhood upon gaining such immense, godly power. The titan's possessed him, not the other way around, hence his inability to use their power, as shown in the first season, unless his personal "will" aligned with the nature of the attack titan and the founder's intentions. Much of human ethics comes from the impossibility of some of our wishes and the natural inequality of human individuals' capacities moderated by the equality of human dignity. We have to contend with metaphysical limits and necessities. Eren, being possessed by the source of all living matter as it's called, had no limits and therefore no obstacles. Could it really be said, if that's true, that he was even the same person anymore? Or was Eren Yeager now the host of a war-waging god that used the Eldian people as a stock of living weaponry to execute its inevitable attempt at simply exerting its power over life and death? Then again, as he said to Armin, he could've just been an idiot with too much power. But there's a non-zero possibility that that's just how it feels to be a human person living with a god in your soul. Excellent analysis, Vile Eye

@azazel166

5 ай бұрын

Which is why no human should wield such power.

@conwaytwittyer2667

5 ай бұрын

That was only after he touched Ymir in the paths and absorbed the founding titan. Ymir used Eren, Armin, and Mikasa as vessels to overcome her trauma and attain her own freedom from the true villain of AOT King Fritz, in that way he was used. However, the Rumbling was all Erin, that was his wish, his twisted vision of the things Armin showed him in that book seeded a deep disappointment in the freedom or lack thereof beyond the walls. In the end, the freedom Erin envisioned was ingrained into him the moment he touched Historia’s hand, and inherited the vision of the future from his father’s memory that had been planted by his his future self. Erin was trapped in his own freedom, everything was already predetermined, including the rise of an entirely new power in the future, this time not derived from the fear and pain experienced by Ymir.

@jacobevans1970

5 ай бұрын

This point is often overlooked, I feel. Eren is similar to Dr Manhatten from Watchmen in that regard- if you are experiencing past, future, and present simultaneously you are helpless to change your future actions even with prescience. After all, they have already happened! Good comment, man!

@merdufer

5 ай бұрын

Power should only be wielded with wisdom. The human race had to wise up real quick when nuclear weapons were invented, and we narrowly escaped extinction.

@Tupadre97

5 ай бұрын

ymir had no plan it was all eren you and vile eye are misinterpreting the story

"Even so, its the little things that make life worth living: a mothers smile, a game of catch with your father, the laughs you share with your friends, and everything else in between. the world is not ugly because of the misery that can be found within it, its beautiful despite it all." this resonated with me quite profoundly and was such a beautiful line of words. love your videos man, keep doin what you do.

@anitaremenarova6662

5 ай бұрын

It's pretty much directly taken from the show, do yourself the favor of watching it if you ever have the time.

@LuckyKlvrSyx

3 ай бұрын

Good for you!​@@anitaremenarova6662

Eren Yeager is one of the most intriguing characters from the last decades and it's so cool to see you finally cover him. Bravo!

@lornm1856

5 ай бұрын

If you don’t have media literacy so you ignore the insane inconsistencies and retcons that were written to let that ending happen, still not. A guy doing a genocide because he thinks it’s the only way and that he can’t stop only to be okay with stopping and dying. He’s a joke

@AM17titan

5 ай бұрын

@@lornm1856the guy did the genocide because he wanted to replicate the view he saw in armin’s book First understand him ffs and have media literacy lol

@lornm1856

5 ай бұрын

@@AM17titan 4 years before All this, he said he forgot armin's book. All of the ending is based on a retcon. First understand him and then talk. Also even if it wasn't a retcon he would still be the worst character

@avalokiteshvara113

5 ай бұрын

Love the incels defending eren

@AM17titan

5 ай бұрын

@@lornm1856 but why during ramzi’s conversation He says the outside world was nothing like he imagined from armin’s book and he was disappointed 😂😂🤣 and here you saying he forgot I suggest you to watch the story AGAIN lol And could you stop with the retcon stuff ? It’s not retcon Understand the story dumbass 🤦🏻‍♂️💀

Eren is a great example of " You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" going from vowing to kill every titan to beign the one who ordered the rumbling was so chilling but so well written. One of the best anime characters of the last decade. You're amazing vile. Keep up the Great work

@ugoeze7360

5 ай бұрын

King Fritz is a great example of, “if you come at the King, you best not miss.”

@merdufer

5 ай бұрын

Isayama took the edgy manga protagonist archetype to its logical conclusion: A protagonist filled with angst, pain, and determination is admirable. A protagonist filled with angst, pain, determination, and ultimate power, is terrifying.

@hesusmariajosef

5 ай бұрын

⁠@@merdufer Eren is a masterclass on “relatively good main character to mass murdering villain” development done right by highlighting how his already established character traits can be taken down a darker turn. He was able to write convincingly, what DnD tried and failed to accomplish with Daenerys in the final season of Game of Thrones. It’s also funny that Isayama is a fan of GRRM and his “the human heart in conflict with itself” idea. So it makes sense that Isayama would have an understanding on how to execute a character barreling down a darker path similar to how George must have had in mind. DnD could not fundamentally grasp it.

@MrAsus4870

5 ай бұрын

Can you recommend some other good anime shows?

@EATMAN888

5 ай бұрын

Eren is a cataclysmic anti villain not a villain !

This series had endless Analyzing Evil potential

@breathyy5963

5 ай бұрын

Eren, zeke, Fritz, Fritz, ymir, reiss

@NvrchFotia

5 ай бұрын

Which two Fritzes? The rest are probably/certainly evil.

@monkey39128

5 ай бұрын

@@NvrchFotia The first king Fritz and the last King Fritz. One was an abusive cretin, the other was an idealist who couldn't protect his people. Could easily add Rod Reiss in there as well.

@iaamara8434

4 ай бұрын

@@breathyy5963 Zeke is not evil ?

@pamelqtaylor8335

4 ай бұрын

Annie

Eren answers the ancient question of: “Would you destroy the world to save your family?”

@seekingabsolution1907

5 ай бұрын

It was never his choice to make. The idea that such things should be left to the decision of one person is both spurious, ridiculous and evil.

@EATMAN888

5 ай бұрын

when the world is tryna destroy you ...

@henriettebopda5895

5 ай бұрын

If the world is civilians then no, i won't

@EATMAN888

5 ай бұрын

@@seekingabsolution1907 yes it was because he made it. Also he let his only real threats keep their free will if they wanted to stop him...not evil just an antivillain.

@tragnark5602

5 ай бұрын

​@@henriettebopda5895i feel sorry for your family

We did Johan, we did Eren and now we need Char. The world needs to know the evils born from mommy issues.

@MrTheHawk

5 ай бұрын

Who’s Char?

@diegorojas8959

5 ай бұрын

@@MrTheHawk Char Aznable from Mobile Suit Gundam.

@entidade_000

5 ай бұрын

Who's char?

@MrTheHawk

5 ай бұрын

@@diegorojas8959 ahhh never seen it. Since your into anime, it would be sick if he did Funny Valentine and Punpun from Goodnight Punpun

@I_am-lost.

5 ай бұрын

Char ain't evil, he's just um misunderstood

Eren was definitely the last character I would’ve thought of when thinking about villains for you to cover on Christmas Eve but a welcome surprise nonetheless.

@EATMAN888

5 ай бұрын

naaa cataclysm anti villain not a villain.

@kayden2119

5 ай бұрын

Bro he is like the textbook definition of a villain. Eren is also kinda the opposite of an anti hero. Anti hero is a character whos' actions are heroic but their motives are not necessarily heroic. I get the definition of anti hero has kinda been watered down to just mean "not completely evil villain" but still.@@EATMAN888

@EATMAN888

5 ай бұрын

@@kayden2119 thats why he is an anti villain if anything but not a villain. What true villain you know would still let his biggest threats keep their Free will?

@lucasbrenner2916

5 ай бұрын

​@@EATMAN888Griffith

@nathanpierce7681

5 ай бұрын

have a holly jolly rumbling

Eren Yeager is one complex anime character that is both victim of the world and a mass murder. Free yet not free. And he is neither good nor evil. But keeps moving forward.

@Plupert

4 ай бұрын

He said it himself. He’s a slave to freedom

@gabox17da88

4 ай бұрын

Saying that someone who killed billions is not evil might be the dumbest take I've ever seen.

@a.jthomas6132

4 ай бұрын

@@gabox17da88 I am stating out fact. Eren Yeager is all of these things. So don’t called me dumb.

@juanpena2567

4 ай бұрын

@@gabox17da88was literally fated to kill those billions and could do nothing to change that

@Dan_Kanerva

4 ай бұрын

@@gabox17da88 you are seeing the act throught the lense of an inmature person . Ask yourself , are you evil? Probably no. Now ask this: would i have become evil if i went throught THE EXACT SAME events that traumatized Eren? Yeah, human psychology is not as easy as cartoon villains vs heros huh?

The thing about eren is that what he does always makes sense. The reason he doesn’t consult with his friends/comrades about what to do with the founding titan could lead back to season 1 when he trusted his allies (the Levi squad) and it backfired horribly. Eren was taught early on that taking matters into your own hands is the best way to move forward.

@AM17titan

26 күн бұрын

no? lol that whole scene was literally just having 'no regrets' lol which levi says and he has an whole ova dedicated to 'no regrets'

Eren is a great example of how to write a protagonist who, as the plot progresses more and more, becomes a villain. Watch and learn, Guilty Crown!

@ramunebradfordtake2710

5 ай бұрын

Idk, in comparison, to say Griffith. Eren is ok. Wanted to add. The only reason I am saying this is because with Griffith's goals, there is a sense that anyone can fall into the trappings of it. We see it Griffiths every day in society. With Erin....it's just more of fascist, hitlerapologic leaning garbldygook that is a bit disturbing. Does not a great character make. Especially his response towards Mikasa (I don't want her to have anyone else just me?! I want her to cry only for me). Wut?! Maybe that was the point.....I just didn't see it. I would like to see Vile do a piece on Kazuho Yoshii (Technolyze). I think he was a character who had a bit more depth than Eren. Oh, or the Green Knight.

@Xijor

5 ай бұрын

If you ignore the ending Eren is a great hero turned villain.

@finlaytemple1744

5 ай бұрын

​​@@Xijor How did the ending change his character?

@chancerichards9176

5 ай бұрын

​​@@finlaytemple1744no one spoil it for this guy, let him watch it. Watch it bro its really good and suprising... kinda surprising lol

@soraceant

5 ай бұрын

It made him an idiot/Not in control of his actions@@finlaytemple1744

I always thought attack on titan represented growing up in the world. Eren character goes from woefully ignorant, to passionately Dedicated, to realizing heart only goes so far, and there are those that are already at the finish line when your just starting, and they can beat you unless you do what many of us aren’t capable of…. The unthinkable

@josesosa3337

5 ай бұрын

This.

@josesosa3337

5 ай бұрын

Aside from an anti war story, I always felt attack on titan was about taking the steps to become an adult. Becoming an adult entails learning about human cruelty, people manipulating eachother, not having each others best interest in mind, being talked out of bad decisions, ect

@Infamous1892

5 ай бұрын

It felt like a War Story about how we raise our children to continue fighting the wars that were waged yesteryear. But everyone has their own interpretation. No one is indefinitely wrong on this subject matter.

@ptolemeeselenion1542

5 ай бұрын

Hm.

@coletrain41

5 ай бұрын

​@@josesosa3337the commander's speech before marley tries to bomb eren with blimps remind me of this

To me it seems like the whole story of the Titans and Eren was very prophetic in the biblical sense. And most prophecies in most religions all come with a person who has to enact the plans of a greater power to make a better world but the foundations of the better world is built with the pain and death of a great deal of people so the remaining people will remember the price for their better world. A great video again. I loved the anime good characters and a fascinating story in a unique world.

@daniel8181

Ай бұрын

When these people all die and see, they would beg for a world where 20% of humanity made it out of hell. The church is the Lord's kingdom, and those outside of it will perish for failure to seek it, whether by the stiffness of their necks or the condition of their birth, To see Eren as the bad guy is to understand nothing of the consequences of a hatred so powerful that you would want to destroy someone just like you, but that you would not seek to understand. Atheists commonly criticize Catholicism for this, and protestants literally started bloody wars and committed mass murders to create a more gentle consequence for their hatred...but they are all wrong, and that is why AoT is a compelling metric for a person's willingness to accept a truth despite its horror. When I see someone say something stupid like "You know he's a piece of shit when he has an adult eren profile pic" I know that this person could die today, or die 100 years from now and their heart would not be changed by a million pleading voices. They have chosen to hate without knowing, and that means anyone can manipulate their "memory" and use them for evil. No one was there to see the wars of the past that is still talking of them, so you can forgive them for thinking they "know" what they were about, how they began, and how they ended...but even when given EVERY possible angle of such a scenario they still choose to default to "badguy is whoever I'm told" then you know they have not the capacity for free thought. they will ask for the annihilation of eldians in a fictional setting just as they in real life will ask for the annihilation of germans, spaniards, italians, the irish, the japanese, the russians, Catholics and the palestinians, because they dared to oppose the wicked regime that has wrapped its wicked vine around the hearts and souls of everyone who does not understand.

Now that you've done Eren, you've got to do Zeke next! I think he's a very interesting kind of evil.

@lisboah

5 ай бұрын

While Eren's body count was far higher, Zeke had two traits that made me despise him more than Eren. Zeke was arrogant and even sadistic, as he was clearly enjoying killing the Survey Corps, his own people that he wanted to "save". And he actually believed that sterelizing the entire Eldian race was a mercy and that they should be grateful.

@anitaremenarova6662

5 ай бұрын

@@lisboah I think that's an incorrect reading of his character. He was gleeful about murdering people but not because he enjoyed it, he just thought he was liberating them from their awful, misery-filled existence. Still fucked up but not sadism. Well it was a much better plan compared to the alternative.

@seg162

5 ай бұрын

@@anitaremenarova6662 I mean, it was still genocide. Just a different kind, only "better" in that it wouldn't immediately annihilate an entire society, but instead cause it to die an increasingly labored death they never elected.

@SimonNissen94

5 ай бұрын

@@anitaremenarova6662 not if you are eldian, which Eren is

@anitaremenarova6662

5 ай бұрын

@@SimonNissen94 Even if you're eldian.

"If we kill all our enemies, will we be free?" A very interesting character and villain. Would love to see you cover Schneizel from Code Geass. A man who decided to rule like a God by using weapons of mass-destruction to control the whole world with absolute authority.

@Eccentric_Charlie

5 ай бұрын

Yes, free of your enemies unless they can come back as ghosts.

@WoodenChurch_041

4 ай бұрын

For sure! It'll be good for awhile, though eventually the cycle shall begin again. Conflict will always occur, peace is actually a lie, it never lasts long (not to quote star wars stuff there lol).

@paperpersona1243

Ай бұрын

I'd be curious to hear what he has to say about lelouch's parents as well!

King Fritz is a great example of, “if you come at the King, you best not miss.”

@alilweeb7684

5 ай бұрын

What?

@BoyKagome

5 ай бұрын

@@alilweeb7684 Don't tug on supermans cape.

@jugginnfinessing862

5 ай бұрын

s/o Omar frm the wire

@RedFloyd469

5 ай бұрын

@@alilweeb7684 I don't know where the reference comes from, but in AoT, a subjugated soldier hid a javelin in the sand in front of King Fritz's throne, likely aided by conspirators in doing so. He threw the javelin, and unfortunately, Ymir jumped in front of King Fritz to catch the blow. For some unknown reason, ymir did not recover from her wounds (possibly from her own choice, but I don't know the reasoning behind that choice.), which resulted in her children being forced to eath their mother to inheret her titan powers. This resulted in the titan powers being split across multiple bloodlines throughout time. Had Ymir not jumped in front of the spear, it's unclear what exactly would have been the fate of the titans and the eldians in general.

@lucasbrenner2916

5 ай бұрын

​@@RedFloyd469before Ymir died, she had a flashback of when she was being chased as a kid, showing the daisy flower (it represents love, purity, kindness and affection) covered in blood as she cries. I think it shows her search for affection and how she just wanted to die in that moment, being neglected like that. sorry if my english is a little messy

The thing is, didn’t Eren while speaking to Armin in the Paths, I believe, stated that he tried and view countless ways to find an alternative approach? Also, I think Eren’s life was like driving down a highway with no other exits existing, except the one at the very end. He can change lanes, but eventually he’s met with that exit.

@AM17titan

5 ай бұрын

Actually I think he tried but at the same time didn’t tried He literally says in the end that he wanted a plain field so I think he is somewhat lying at that point and you could see that he is not even talking eye to eye to armin

@CrimsonCharan

5 ай бұрын

He tried to change everything but his own nature: that of an impulsive moron who tries to solve every problem with violence and rage. He grew up, but he never grew out of it. Combine that with his twisted dream of freedom, and it was little wonder he initiated the Rumbling.

@buckyhurdle4776

5 ай бұрын

@@AM17titan You can't really take anything Eren says at face value. Eren isn't normal, he is barely human anymore. He manipulated himself into existence from the end of the timeline by speaking to his own father through Krueger. He spent his entire life chasing revenge on himself, being the one who sent the smiling titan to his mother. Eren never had a choice, because he had every choice, he chose to be born. It literally is all his fault, all his design, marching towards a future that he didn't even know he created until it was too late. "From here on, only Eren will get what he wants. I just never imagined it could be so horrible." Not even Eren could have imagined what it would mean to get what he wants. He was absolutely, 100% fucked from the very beginning. He didn't have a chance, because he purposefully didn't give himself a chance, and he holds all the cards.

@erikvaldes4293

5 ай бұрын

Yeah literally ruined his whole character, biggest copout ever. Like bro after all the things that happened to him and all the batshit insane shit Marley did to Eldia its perfectly acceptable to have him go crazy and want revenge regardless of the cost but no they half ass it and say it was bc he had no other choice even though its was so painfully obvious the Marley plan would be the most successful especially considering all the allies they would have made after freeing the colonies. Dont even get me started on him killing his own mom literally completely ruins his origin story. I mean whats more likely that he had no other choice or that he was not letting the world get away with all the evil inflicted on eldia?

@buckyhurdle4776

5 ай бұрын

@@erikvaldes4293 Its a good thing you're not a writer.

Eren even said he chose this path because it had the best outcome for his friends he was just trying to save his friends while trying to free the eldiens from their oppressers and in this whole show is showing how there is loss on all sides and that this show goes beyoned good and evil and works on the understanding of how war effects the whole planet and not just the people but in the end people in suffering will cause more suffering

Please do Askeladd from Vinland Saga, he's one of the greatest antagonists ever.

@anitaremenarova6662

5 ай бұрын

Definitely. He's a very unique kind of evil.

@maffhama872

5 ай бұрын

Very true

@Lol_mud

Ай бұрын

Yes he's so well written!

Eren's such a tragic character, the entire story is heartbreaking

@EATMAN888

5 ай бұрын

not even dude is still a hero! a war hero. to his enemies an anti villain at the most.

@geraltrivia9565

5 ай бұрын

@@EATMAN888he is not a hero

@EATMAN888

5 ай бұрын

@@geraltrivia9565 ask the people of Paradis that. Villain to the world but not his people. Antivillain if you wanna be fair.

@bigdadybojangls9219

5 ай бұрын

⁠@@EATMAN888you realize this is essentially exactly like saying that Hitler wasn’t a villain because he was a hero to Germany, right? Do you think it’s a coincidence that so many characters in this series have German names and that a lot of the history in the show is clearly inspired by German history?

@music79075

5 ай бұрын

​@geraltrivia9565 "Erens a hero" Floch "Erens a hero" Eren "I'm a mass murdering idiot who had too much power. I'm a fucking mistake."

From what I understood, Eren went along with the future that he saw because deep down it's what he wanted. He says to Ramzi that he "Was disappointed" when he learned that Humanity outside the walls hadn't perished. and that he "Wanted to wipe it all away". He even admits to Armin at the end in both the Anime and Manga versions that he wanted to do it. Yes he didn't have real free will, not because Ymir or his Titans were controlling his actions, t because him seeing his own future determined that it would happen. Which is why he says to Armin in the Anime "20% is all you manage to save, it's already been determined." He began living through the Future that he saw, and because it aligned with his desires he couldn't bring himself to change it. He says "It's true that the death toll on Paradis would be a fraction of the world" whilst he's contemplating whether he's right or wrong, but then comes to the conclusion "I just couldn't accept an end like that". Destroying the World, Seeing "that sight", saving his friends and saving his people. The reason he couldn't change the future is that he couldn't bring himself to go against his own Nature. "I've been this way since birth", "If someone tries to take my Freedom, I won't hesitate to steal theirs." I think this does make him genuinely evil, just because he didn't have true free will doesn't absolve him of his sins, especially when he has expressed multiple times that it's what he wants.

@yuukichan12

4 ай бұрын

This exactly.

@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs

4 ай бұрын

It essentialy boils down to what is-at it's core- a rebranded "I just followed orders, I had no choice." excuse. Which was a defense that didn't fly during the Nuremberg Trials and the ones who tried to pull it still got hanged.

@waltuh979

4 ай бұрын

@@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs yep

@kevintanza6968

4 ай бұрын

I think that's why I hate his character so much. I always found him extremely selfish.

@waltuh979

4 ай бұрын

@@kevintanza6968 that's very fair. personally I love his character because I find him to be well written, even if I don't agree with or like what he does. I think his flaws are what make him interesting.

Eren was willing to destroy the world to keep his loved ones safe. The goal is admirable, but the method is just plain horrific Though I highly respect Eren for being fully aware that his goal was evil and beyond redemption, unlike others that would see it as the greater good like Light from Death Note. Loved the video Vile! Merry christmas and please leave a hearth to a huge fan!

@WoodenChurch_041

4 ай бұрын

Real talk i think if fate (the author) wasn't against eren, he shoulda went on through it. i just don't think the world will leave his tribe alone at all or ever and they just see all subjects of Ymir as spawn of satan anyways. I can't think of anything else they can even do to get the world to stop overreacting.

@arthurskye

3 ай бұрын

Yeah Light and Eren are different. light was selfish as hell

@CHRISCAMPO-wq8bi

3 ай бұрын

@@WoodenChurch_041 isayama wasn't against Eren, and his death was one of the many things that made the ending bittersweet. Factor in how Eren was treated as a selfless hero in the end...yeah there's a reason why the entire anti-eren crowd HATED the ending

@WoodenChurch_041

3 ай бұрын

@@CHRISCAMPO-wq8bi Hmm maybe your right then, I stopped watching/reading after Marley failed to destroy the walls the 2nd time (Eren's brother and Reiner failed and retreated). Ever since just seen clips and such that basically gave me the gist of where the story was ending up as. I hate the ending btw but it was really up to the author how he wanted to end his story I figured despite my opinions, though it did felt like Eren was set against as his fate seems as if he was destined to "fail" yet I do starting to think didn't entirely have the full context. wait the anti-eren crowd hated the ending? sheesh guess they wanted just see him as a monster then what Eren (I don't agree at all, he should've tried to deny his fate, war is war I say, even if it meant killing his friends) deep down wanted his friends to stop him.

@santinopaone-hoyland

2 ай бұрын

​@@CHRISCAMPO-wq8biImagine placing yourself in opposition to the "anti-Eren crowd", when the dude tried to genocide 99% of the world 😂 The writer himself said he didn't like the ending and altered it in the anime to more clearly condemn Eren.

One of the best anime characters ever, thank you Vile Eye

I would love to see more of these. Punisher, Billy Butcher, Red Hood, Yuno Gasai, Kratos (pre-GOW4). characters who aren't necessarily evil, but do evil things or become more morally corrupt as their respective stories continue.

@anitaremenarova6662

5 ай бұрын

You're grouping in a ton of characters that range from "anti-hero" to "genocidal maniac". I've not seen the rest of those properties but the show Billy Butcher and Kratos couldn't be more apart considering one toys with evil but never quite ends up doing it and the other murders millions of innocents in cold blood.

@taipansghost

5 ай бұрын

@@anitaremenarova6662 you are indeed correct. all the characters I mentioned are all over the scale. The point I was making is that I wouldn't mind seeing more videos around protagonists. Obviously someone like The Punisher or Michael from GTA5 do not scale to Yuno or Kratos, but a video on them would be fun nonetheless

@anitaremenarova6662

5 ай бұрын

@@taipansghost Fair, it was simply jarring seeing those 2 in the same sentence and especially "aren't necessarily evil" in reference to Kratos. I'm pretty sure that guy was doing horrendous shit even in the first game. Do agree more evil protagonists being broken down would be fun on the channel.

@ArkhamKnightChannel

5 ай бұрын

Would be interested in analysis on Heihachi and Kazuya Mishima (perhaps post Tekken 8)

@zashgekido5616

5 ай бұрын

@@anitaremenarova6662 I mean, Billy Butcher is in fact a genocidal maniac, at least in the comics

Probably my favorite character of all time. This show is a masterpiece

@emilchaos1489

5 ай бұрын

@@Darius-_ i have read books and watch a ton of movies

@emilchaos1489

5 ай бұрын

@@Darius-_ i doubt you did

@pope4510

5 ай бұрын

@@Darius-_ Tell me one character who is more deep and complex as a villain than Eren

@anitaremenarova6662

5 ай бұрын

@@Darius-_ Bro didn't get the memo, it's 2023 hating on anime just ain't in anymore.

@anitaremenarova6662

5 ай бұрын

@@Darius-_ Ah sorry, I forgot you must be like 10 to still find things cringe. Let me put it in a language you can understand: Shitting on anime ain't it in the year of our lord 2023, fr fr no cap.

I love this character and I'm so glad you covered him, Eren is so interesting and portrays the cycle of violence and the power of perspective in ways some characters can only dream of, keep up the great work king

I both hate what Eren did and love him at the same time. He's very relatable in many ways to many people. Not his actions, but his loneliness, his trauma, his desire for some type of purpose and meaning to his life. He was lost and broken, just like many of us. 💔

@troy6646

5 ай бұрын

I do think ultimately this is a story a trauma and hope it can effect others. Someone like mikasa and armin can overlook or push through their trauma because they realize the love they feel is stronger than the sadness they've experienced. Eren, gabi or zeke for example, couldn't let go of what happened to them, but unlike gabi and zeke, eren won't listen to anything other than how he precieves their situation because of his trauma. Gabi has a relatively quick turn around and it's too late but even zeke realizes he's been missing out and even tho it's too late, he still offers his help in the end

@Clown_the_Clown

5 ай бұрын

Eren did nothing wrong.

@daniaaal

5 ай бұрын

@@Clown_the_Clown clown comment

@Yuh_zhimmy

5 ай бұрын

@@Clown_the_Clown He did a good amount wrong

@seekingabsolution1907

5 ай бұрын

​@@Clown_the_Clownyou spent a lot of time watching Carl Benjamin's complaints about feminism in the 2010s didn't you.

I read the manga for the first time, it is a great read that’s exhilarating and very dynamic, but also intrigal in how Eren Yeager interacts with Armin, Mikasa, and everyone else around him, especially with how he eventually turns bad. The world building of Attack on titan is also incredibly interesting too.

I believe the final thing that pushed Eren to proceed with the Rumbling was his desire to make the outside world more like the one he saw in Armin’s book. As he explains in 131, the outside world couldn’t have been more different than the one he had hoped for. A world full of grey, conflict, and suffering as opposed to a blank plain free for him and his friends to explore and discover. It adds a layer of childishness to his motivations that I believe elevates his character and the series overall. Attack on Titan at it’s core is a story about growing up and maturing, so it’s fitting that Eren’s child like nature and inability to truly grow up is the thing that turned him into a monster. It also makes his foil to Armin even more apparent. I could go on and on talking about Aot forever, props to Isayama for writing such a mature and complex story that portrays human nature more accurately than nearly any other anime/manga I’ve seen in the medium.

@Jonas-ob2sh

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, growing up is certainly a core theme and the scout regiment embody that theme by their desire to expand their understanding of the world and people. Like Hange and Erwin said: "If you don't understand something figure it out, isn't that what the scouts are about?"

@Defalto

5 ай бұрын

Well said. His immaturity became fully transparent during his outburst about mikasa at the end. Classic story of power falling into the wrong hands.

@SuperBadadan

5 ай бұрын

@@Jonas-ob2sh And all they figured out is that the world wants to kill them. Is it more mature to let yourself be killed so as to keep the moral high ground, I wonder?

This story was so brilliant from start to finish, and the voice acting always gave me chills. The entire acting team was absolutely incredible in every single line uttered, but a special shout out to Yūki Kaji, whose voice is… I have no words, but we all felt it watching each episode. I enjoy every episode of The Vile Eye and am stoked with each villain analyzed. Personal favorite I hope to see an episode on is Jareth from Labyrinth 🙏 thank you for your work on this channel!

Incredibly written character. Hard to make someone simultaneously sympathetic and relatable, and irredeemably evil

@theCommentDevil

5 ай бұрын

Exactly my feeling.

@keithfilibeck2390

5 ай бұрын

His future and his actions are deterministic, he's as evil as knowing a comet is going to wipe out your people, but also knowing you are going to do it, and you can't change it

@rafaelmartinelli9377

5 ай бұрын

"Incredibly written character" you sure? All he do is scream and be annoying on the first half, then he stay looking serious and annoying on the second half.

@skateplays8880

5 ай бұрын

He was an amazing character until the garbage ass ending turned him into a soyboy bitchless and had people thanking him for committing genocide

@thesnowmiser6728

5 ай бұрын

​@@rafaelmartinelli9377ok buddy

Eren is a prime example of "Nah! Imma do my own thang." 😂😂

@xblade149

5 ай бұрын

Eren wasn't truly free

@Tupadre97

5 ай бұрын

@@xblade149 he was

@MrKingJson

5 ай бұрын

​@@Tupadre97 he was, but he was a slave to it. So much so that he did what he did and inadvertently condemned himself to his fate.

Amazing work as always! I’m always in the lookout! I love both your content AND your delivery, and thank you so much for the time and attention you give towards making your videos so great to watch. Tywin's my all time favorite video of yours! Please do more ASOIAF villains like roose and Euron!

Something people dont seem to be discussing is how Erins actions and reactions are consistent throughout the story, and our take on those reactions are colored by our perspective. He reacts with murderous rage at every point, and at first we wholeheartedly support that. He lost his mother to mindless monsters, of course rage is the appropriate response, but going forward we are forced to consider if this response is appropriate after all. If its ok to destroy monsters, and its ok to destroy people who look like monsters, and its ok to destroy people who oppressed said monsters etc etc.

@CHRISCAMPO-wq8bi

3 ай бұрын

except he was never okay with what he had to do after the time skip, and hell, he wasn't even happy about killing titans after learning for a fact that they were originally people.

@dariotoska

3 ай бұрын

He didn't react with murderous' rage on Marley. He went over, experienced life there and also the sheer oppression Eldians faced, understood being attacked was inevitable and explored possible solutions that wasn't self-euthanasia, and finally attacked Marley after being declared war on. personally, how do you think you would have handled the situation.

@santinopaone-hoyland

2 ай бұрын

​@@dariotoskaWell, the Eldian euthanasia plan is clearly better from a utilitarian perspective.

@santinopaone-hoyland

2 ай бұрын

This is also the case before the series starts. When he saves Mikasa, he dehumanises the men he kills and doesn't seem particularly traumatised by the event. Killing is always the solution for Eren. It's so much easier for him to reach this solution than a psychologically healthy person.

@dariotoska

2 ай бұрын

Yes, which is why utilitarianism is looked down upon. If a much larger group of people are after you for revenge and you defend yourself however you can that is fully justified.@@santinopaone-hoyland

I very rarely comment on here but I must say I loved your interpretation of this character and I'm glad you took the time to analyze his story because it's a fantastic one. Great job and don't stop doing what you're doing

Would love to see your takes on other anime villains like Dio Brando, Makima, Frieza, Doflamingo, Yoshikage Kira, Pain, etc.

@qkomodo9098

5 ай бұрын

The fact that Pain was only in a handful of episodes but has left an impression on the world that lasts to this day needs to be researched

@blove88

3 ай бұрын

@@qkomodo9098 Yup. Madara was the coolest villain in Naruto but Pain was the most complex and compelling.

@worminaround

Ай бұрын

You got Makima and Frieza now

@blove88

Ай бұрын

@@worminaround 2 down. 4 more to go.

When I first started this series around 11 years old, I never would’ve thought or believe Eren would turn out to be the villain later in series. Even though there were a few signs of it early on to me.

This video has really opened my eyes to some of the more ambiguous elements of AOT's story. Ymir and the source of all living matter are given such little on screen information despite their immense gravity in the story, and I always love to hear your interpretations on these things because of the perspective you bring compared to when these stories are coming out it feels like other fans and I are stumbling around in the dark. Please keep up the good work.

I knew this video was gonna come. Thanks Vile. Merry Christmas.

there's a line in the anime that i dont think is in the manga where eren says "no matter how many times ive tested, this is how it ends". Considering that eren admits that he wanted to commit genocide by the end of his conversation with Armin, my interpretation is that he is caught in a loop by the powers of the Founder and the Attack titan, and that he realized that in his first Cycle he did indeed choose to cause the rumbling and kill the rest of the world. It would explain why he has moments of both remorse and relief(his whole "I'm Free" moment) and is kind of backed up with him saying that he is confused because he began to perceive the past and future all at once. Which to me, i believe that Eren, at his core committed and evil act, for his own selfish reasons. even his justifications are rooted in his own Nihilsm.

@Jonas-ob2sh

5 ай бұрын

There are no "cycles" or "alternate timelines" in attack on titan. What Eren meant was when he said that line is that he was trying to deviate from the pre-determined future multiple times in the past (like when he was about to leave Ramzi behind but didn't because he saw that he would save him in his future memory and because it's in Eren's nature to not leave innocent boy behind like that, just like with Mikasa) but he can't due to him being a slave to freedom (his desires) and circumstances.

YES! You are the man Vile, got into AoT over the summer and since it ended I’ve been dying for more thoughtful analysis of the show. You are the best when it comes to this stuff and I’m so happy to see an Eren vid from you

Mikasa really just an "I can fix him" girl lol

"He was the best guy aroooooound" "What about the people he murdered?" "What murdah??"

@Eccentric_Charlie

5 ай бұрын

The baby chipmunks and puppies too!

I haven’t watched AoT since high school and waited till it all finished. I delayed watching it until I saw this vid pop up last week, binged all of AoT in 6 days 😂 do not regret it at all, 9/10 had me on the edge of my seat

I love this so much. The greatest thing about this mangaka/anime is the sheer horror of the first episode. Very few forms if media are able invoke such a feeling of dread and terror in the way that the first chapter of AoT did

After finishing AOT, I came to your channel to suggest a video covering Eren and was pleasantly surprised to see you already had one up. A welcome surprise on Christmas. Great work as always!

his actions are undoubtedly evil, but there’s an argument that he’s a victim imo. when he saw the future after kissing historia’s hand he saw everything that would happen up until his death and events that occurred post timeskip confirmed that he really couldn’t change the future and had to see it through to the end for the freedom he longed for him and his loved ones to finally have

I love Eren ❤ I feel like he's a perfect example of "You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." Such a great character and one of my favorites in anime. Thanks, Vile, and Merry Christmas 🎄🎁❤

Finished the anime not long ago and i have a hard time explaining it but understood it as i watches it. Videos like this helps out a lot, thanks!

I'm loving your videos man❤👍I'm waiting patiently for your eventual analysis on Dracula form the Castlevania series and looking forward for future content.

i don't think Ymir was that smart. For me she didn't planned this from the beggining she planned it when Eren convinced her. There are few reasons why i think this is the case: First of all she is in love with King Fritz who was trying to conquer the world and was a tyrannical ruler so trying to make peace using the Rumbling is not a thing her lover would do. Secondly she all the time in the world litteraly she was in a dimension where times flow much slower, she had more than 10 thousand year to make a plan and she waited Eren to be born. And Finally in the anime and the manga when Zeke gave her the order to sterilize all the Eldians she started walking to life tree to fullfil his order. She would have done it if Eren hadn't catch up to her. And when Eren convinced her she cried, I mean if she sees the future and planned this from the beginning why would she gize such a reaction. I think if Zeke had treated her the way Eren did, she would have done what Zeke wanted. I think she is so naive and gullable that this makes her a villan like Misa from Death Note. Thank you if you read all this and if i made any vocab or grammar mistake sorry for my bad english :P Edit: I also think she was a good hearted person when she was a child but after she fell in love with King Fritz she becacme corrupted by him. I mean she lived with this made kids with him and sacrificed her life for him so she must have look up to his way of thinking or atlest got manipulated by him to feel no remorse whatsoever.

@Tupadre97

5 ай бұрын

ymir didn't even plan anything lol. even after eren frees her from royal family she just follows erens rumbling without any deviation until armins speech to zeke which she was also present for where she doesn't stop them from turning some of the shifters to their side and even after that she still fights them until she sees mikasa kill eren and the end the titan curse. so realistically the only time her character fully changes is after she sees mikasa kill eren and then goes back to watch her memories through the paths and causing her headaches in the past. seeing that there's clearly no point at which she could have possibly formulated any plan since she was a mindless husk for 2000 years before eren saved her then all that other stuff happened.

@mappingshaman5280

5 ай бұрын

Ymir has the strongest case of Stockholm syndrome ever. For 2000 years the fritz family was unable to sympathise with her because the power of the titans was too tempting. Eren was the first and only one to break the cycle because he's the only one whom wasn't so corrupted by the power of the titans that he couldn't see this woman was deeply traumatised.

@huseyindemirci9113

5 ай бұрын

@@mappingshaman5280 yeah but stockholm syndrome isn't real you can do a research on it. Also just because Eren sympathized with her doesn't justify the fact that she literally helped Eren begin a genocide.

Eren had issues even before his mother was eaten. The kid had an uncontrollable anger and temper. We’ve seen it when he fought against bullies that picked on Armin where even after the bullies ran away and the adults restrained him Eren tried to continue fighting them like a wild animal. He never knew when to stop and while he grew more calculating and calm over time his bloodlust only continued to grow and his mercy less so.

@legendgarc8223

5 ай бұрын

This is fax. But at the same time people can’t blame him because that’s how some people are, if someone punches you, you punch them back 10 times harder.

@mappingshaman5280

5 ай бұрын

And then he keeps stabbing the guy who tried to kidnap mikasa after he was already dead. It went beyond self defence and at that point was just enjoyment.

@lmaolmao9713

5 ай бұрын

"Armin, look! I scared them off!" "Actually, Eren. I think it was Mikasa that scared them off." Are we watching the same show? He celebrates when the bullies leave Armin alone; he doesn't chase them down. Slandering someone better than you is a great way to feel better about yourself, isn't it? Asshole.

That finishing speech was beautiful vile! that's why you're the best! love your analizis!

Love your videos, Vile Eye. If you ever get the chance to do Tai Lung on the regard of the burden of expectations, that would be dapper. Happy Holidays, man!

Ah the Japanese Austrian painter, Eren Yeager.

@Gadget-Walkmen

2 ай бұрын

He's not japanese at all, they make that a point in the story that VERY few characters are asian but I get what you mean and trying to say.

@pain002

4 күн бұрын

@@Gadget-WalkmenLevi and misaka are Asian 100% that one lady who trades even says the ackermans are from their version of japan

@Gadget-Walkmen

4 күн бұрын

@@pain002 lol no. I’m talking about EREN isn’t Japanese. Mikasa is Asian and so is Levi but that’s really it and maybe a few others but most of all the characters aren’t Asian AT ALL.

Perfect Christmas gift vile! Thanks! Hope you have a great christmas!🎁🎁🎁🎁 ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🎄🎄🎄🎅🎅🎅🎅

excellent video! possibly my favourite you’ve ever made. i do think you forgot to mention a few scenes though of eren crying which shows he experienced empathy

This was a good analysis. I love your videos

great video! eren really is one of the most complex characters ever

Merry Christmas and happy new year keep these videos coming. I would love to see you do videos on MCU’s Wilson Fisk and Ben Poindexter aka Dex.

NICE!! Been waiting for this :)

Eren is quite possibly one of the few most fleshed out modern shonen let alone anime protagonist out there and i appreciate the fact that he had actual character development,progression and growth rather than him having your typical single same shonen personality through out the entire story regardless of their age. and I like that he's not even the real villain,It's just the world is too cruel and beyond redeemable and he's fighting for the other sides like any soldiers and unfortunately his friends are now his enemies (when in reality all he's been doing and suffering is for them) wish we've gotten more anime characters like him. All i've been seeing nowadays are just too samey,safe,painfully cliched and generic

@AM17titan

5 ай бұрын

Ah nope Genocide is bad lol even eren accepts to go to hell

@aloveaffairwithself

5 ай бұрын

Yeah…he killed people in the billions. He was evil. But, there was also justification behind his deeds. He wasnt wrong. The other nations were going to never leave Paridis alone.

@kevintanza6968

4 ай бұрын

@@aloveaffairwithself "Killing billions wasn't the wrong choice". Dude...

Happy christmas eve vile! Been waiting For this one so long! You're the Best! Please consider father from Full metal alchemist brotherhood

I haven't seen the video yet, but THANKS soo much for doing this. I was actually trying to write a mini essay for the subreddit asking for you to cover eren

Been waiting for this! Amazing!

Please sometime do an episode of analyzing evil on Zeke Jager, I think it would be a very intresting one as he wants to save the world from the terror of titans, yet he plays with the eldian peoples lifes like if they are nothing, taking joy from mercilessly killing people as if it were just a game. I think seeing the insight of his views of the world and psychology would be really interesting. Anyway loved your video like always!

Both King Fritz and Zeke's plans are genocide, but Eren's eventual plan resulted in both the genocide of all Eldians and a billion extra innocent lives being snuffed out for no actual benefit. The best plan, IMHO, is for Eren to complete the rumbling. Then Eldians can live without the racial division of the past, and the outside world can be quickly put out of its misery all at once. The only place left on earth would be a literal and figurative paradise, exactly as its namesake. All lives born there would be far greater and safer than they would be in any other scenario. Sure wars will eventually still happen, over territory, resources, ideology, religion, but the racial hatred lingering from 2000 years ago would be gone for good.

YOOOO, *this* one's SUPER hype!! Glad you're covering Eren, Attack on Titan is one of my favorite stories of all time 🤩🤩

Been waiting for this one. IMO the most complex and impactful MC of all time.

Another video to play in the background, thank you! May I recommend Sensui Shinobu from the Yu Yu Hakusho series for a future video?

Another great one Vile! But again I must request Nina Meyers from “24.” She to me is the greatest and most wicked of tv villains.

We love you! Your delivery is always balanced.

I’ve literally followed you for years, and my time has finally come. Thank you for this

I think I came up with a potential reason why Eren refused to tell his friends about the rumbling and his future sight: The last time he trusted his friends, the Levi squad, to survive, they all got killed by Annie. Therefore, he thought he must be the only one who can bear the responsibility of the future. Yes he is a twisted person who absolutely wanted to destroy the world, but at the same time it comes from an intense devotion to his friends’ well being, even if his lack of trust is what literally killed people.

@lachlanle7940

5 ай бұрын

I think your point about the death of Levi's squad reveals a flaw in Eren as a person. To me, Eren can't accept the fact that his choices can't guarantee the outcome he wants. There are many things in this world that are genuinely out of his control and yet he can't accept it. That is what Levi was trying to teach to Eren about making a choice with "no regrets" (yet Eren doesn't learn from this) because Levi himself experienced it so many times. Even if Levi was humanity's strongest soldier, he's not immune to losing something.

@SuperBadadan

5 ай бұрын

@@lachlanle7940 Levi is a dumb bitch who only knows how to get his friends killed. If Eren followed his own path in the forest his squad and girlfriend would've still been alive.

@yup7380

5 ай бұрын

That's kind of my interpetration as well. Eren should have never keep his future insight a secret from his closest people which is Armin and Mikasa. Bro took everything and bear it all himself. No human can bear everything alone. If they do, their mind will crumble which is sadly what happened with Eren.

@randomusername3873

5 ай бұрын

He didn't because he has no agency and was "forced to do so"

@iantaakalla8180

5 ай бұрын

You can also see it before the rumbling but after Annie’s forest battle as well; at some point, they talk about sacrifices and who would have to die to make Eldian integration happen. Eren just denies all of that and says that he wishes to protect all his friends. It is sweet, but you can see how quickly that leads into “I alone must do the drastic action to save Eldians and Paradisians and my friends”. He may want peace in a very warped sense, but he first wants to guarantee he effectively did something.

Great video Vile. Can you do Lelouch Vi Britannia from Code Geass. He's an anti-hero who's done a lot of arguably "evil" things in his pursuit of justice. I think it would be interesting to know just how far one can push the moral boundary when championing a just cause.

The most level-headed analysis of Eren Yeager I've seen. Beautiful!

Thank you bro, best Christmas present 🙏🏻

Great video. I do think that everything that the Founding Titan sees in the future is predetermined. It would be a complete paradox if the events they saw in the future simply did not occur. While Eren cannot see the events that lead up to this future, it will inevitably occur. Everything that Eren does to attempt to prevent this future inadvertently makes it happen.

Tbf to Eren him not relying on his friends to make a different plan makes sense as in season 1 he relied on Levi Squad and they all ended up dying.

Man…this was mind blowing honestly. What a great video and an amazing anime really.

Been waiting for this analysis!

Eren was willing to destroy the world to keep his loved ones safe. The goal is admirable, but the method was downright atrocious. Though I highly respect Eren for being fully aware that his goal was evil and beyond redemption, unlike others that woulf see it as the greater good.

@theCommentDevil

5 ай бұрын

So true. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

@NK-22

5 ай бұрын

I think it adds towards his character even more. Lot of villians lie to themselves justifying atrocities, Eren though doesn't which I respect owning those consequences. Hes a villian but a villian who doesn't hide behind "greater good" to justify it.

@approximated_nerd

5 ай бұрын

Eren’s recognition of his wrongdoing means very little to the hundreds of millions he wiped out. i’m really sick of Eren apologia. he committed genocide. full stop.

@christiansanders1

5 ай бұрын

@@approximated_nerdthis. When I finished the anime I was FLOORED by how much support there was for Eren’s actions among fans. It’s like they missed the entire message of the story.

@approximated_nerd

5 ай бұрын

@@christiansanders1 agreed, though - unfortunately - it took me some time to understand AoT, and its extremely suspect messaging in regards to pro-militarism and pro-nationalism. some may believe, as i did, that the show was against said beliefs, but as they come to know some of the things Isayama has said on twitter, it’s clear how much influence right-wing politics have on him. i have seen people in yt comment sections make connections between AoT and Imperial Japan’s style of fascism. very thought provoking.

As someone who liked the ending from day one I have to say this is an excellent analysis of Eren's development.

Very awesome choice for this episode. Love it.

You are correct: I've absolutely been waiting for this one

You’re video choices have been 🔥. Kenny Ackerman and Zeke should get their own episodes down the road!

This is indeed one of my all time favorite animes. I'm not huge into anime, but there's a few shows that have stood out to me in the past few years, AoT being right up there towards the top.

When i saw eren yeager, i knew this episode would be good.

I think the main thing that keeps Eren from being truly evil in my eyes is that it is heavily implied that he never intended to actually complete the Rumbling. He always intended to have his friends stop and kill him. This is why he sends Mikasa a vision in the Paths encouraging her to kill him when she herself cannot find the resolve to do so. His manipulation of his father and the Titan that killed his mother can also be explained as Eren viewing those events as inevitable due to them being in the past and Eren thinking that he needs to ensure that those events happen so that the Eldians do not end up with a worse future than the one they already have. At the end of the day, Eren is an extremely complex and morally ambiguous character. Whether you find him evil really comes down to your own personal interpretation of the inevitability of his actions (as Vile Eye pointed out in the video). Many are quick to say that genocide can never be justifiable. But what those people don’t consider is the effect that Eren’s visions of the past and future had on his outlook of the world as well as Ymir’s control and manipulation of the users of the Founding Titan. Eren literally saw the future where the Rumbling occurred. I don’t think it is unreasonable for him to view that future as inevitable. Especially when you consider that it is heavily implied that the only other futures he saw were futures where his people were wiped out by the Marleyans. Eren definitely committed evil actions. But that doesn’t mean he is an evil person in my opinion.

@Setherina

5 ай бұрын

Wild to read genocide apologia like this lol. ‘Many would say genocide is evil BUT’

@TheGuardianssorrow

5 ай бұрын

@@SetherinaHard to avoid when all sides are genocidal. Its why I when i see people side with palestine because they are "anti-genocide", i just laugh. Palestine wants genocide too. Not just Israel. Yet people pick a side believing theyre believing the the anti genocide side.

@Jonas-ob2sh

5 ай бұрын

What made Eren truly evil for me is when he admitted to Ramzi and Armin that he did this partially because he wanted to flatten everything in order to see the empty unoccupied world he saw in Armin's book. Other characters like Reiner have done similarly evil actions to achieve their selfish dreams but the difference between them and Eren is that Eren doubled down on his beliefs and took things to the absolute extreme whereas Reiner knew when to stop.

@kingslayer3647

5 ай бұрын

​@@TheGuardianssorrowit's true that when everyone is evil no one is evil, but still there were people he killed that don't even get the choice of being evil. There is no way of looking at this and saying Eren is anything but a monster

@whiteeye9584

5 ай бұрын

@@kingslayer3647 those who did not done evil are minority and their mids don't matter in the end

Eren did confess to Armin that he used protecting his friends as an excuse to enact the rumbling in order to see the unpopulated outside world he always dreamed of. He also confessed to Armin that he didn’t know for sure if his friends would even survive if they tried to stop him, which is ultimately what got Sasha and Hanji killed. Ultimately Eren always wanted to enact the rumbling in order to see the empty world he always dreamed of, but he knew it was wrong so he tried to fight against his dark desires only to eventually give into them.

Yes! a great video to receive before Christmas day! Have a happy holiday and cannot wait to finish this year with the upcoming episode on Sauron. On the topic of anime villains, can a potential episode be on Dio Brando from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure?

The rumbling wasn't Ymir's plan, it was all Eren's will and choice, Eren intended on leaving the outside world a blank plain but was stopped at 80% by the alliance. It's not that he gave up to the future he saw, it's that the future he saw aligned with his deepest desires, and when he finally accepted that during his visit to Marley was the point at which he fully committed to doing the rumbling. You make it sound like he had no will of his own and no agency, when that's far from what was portrayed. How could anything that happened have been Ymir's plan when she had no will of her own until Eren met her and woke her from her 2000-year-long trance?

@SuperBadadan

5 ай бұрын

If Eren didn't want to be stopped then Eren could not have been stopped. He was simply too powerful for the the rest of the characters.

@samwizgamgie3rd828

5 ай бұрын

Bro the author literally gave him a plot he could not alter the moment Erin made contact with Historia. The plot compelled him. I dont how much the titan powers influence is user but man Ymir wanted to be free and she already picked Erin.

@AM17titan

5 ай бұрын

@@samwizgamgie3rd828no she didn’t lol When eren saw historia’s memories he literally saw future himself doing the atrocities and the present pre time skip couldn’t stop it because what will happen will happen in Aot ‘s world it’s because it was in his nature and is confirmed in the finale

@samwizgamgie3rd828

5 ай бұрын

@@AM17titan oh thanks for clarifying but i still think the attack plot is strong in Erin, The plot compels him!!!

@AM17titan

5 ай бұрын

@@samwizgamgie3rd828 but it’s post time skip HIMSELF doing those things which pre skip was experiencing when he kissed historia’s hand It’s in his nature basically

The two main characters on Attack on Titan fits perfectly on the two concepts of freedom from Russian-British philosopher Isaiah Berlin: Armin Arlert is the embodiment of positive freedom, and Eren Yeager is negative freedom.

@TheJjMahoney

5 ай бұрын

IS THIS TRUE.

@a.jthomas6132

5 ай бұрын

@@TheJjMahoney It’s obvious it is true

@TheJjMahoney

5 ай бұрын

@@a.jthomas6132 shut up

@sragonlast5723

5 ай бұрын

Armin is dumb pacifist the rumbling is the only way end cycle of hatred/racism he rather kill his best friend was try save eldia from in coming doom eren did what he did you cant negotiate people born hatred form eldian people. I ask you this if ramsy knows that eren and his friend's are eldians they well throw rocks at them There is no black and white there is only gray area in this story.

Been waiting for this 🔥🔥🔥

Seeing an Analyzing Evil video about Eren Jaeger is so surreal. It feels like Eren changed so much, even though he never really did.

do eric cartman please

One of the well written characters in one of the greatest stories ever told,Neither Eren Nor the warriors are “evil” the world is just cruel

@OsirisThaMystikal

5 ай бұрын

Genocide is evil. Eren is evil.

@theCommentDevil

5 ай бұрын

​@@OsirisThaMystikalHe is both evil and good, like everybody. Genocide is absolutely evil though

@vader1481

5 ай бұрын

​So is the world as well they are also trying to kill all of paradis so both Eren and the world are evil right ​@OsirisThaMystikal

@decimal1156

5 ай бұрын

@@OsirisThaMystikal By that logic Eren's opps, Marley are also evil. The moral of the manga as a whole is that violence only breeds violence and that forgiveness is a requirement for peace in the end.

@GenericProtagonist7

5 ай бұрын

​​​@@OsirisThaMystikalI love how you say that but then ONLY mention Eren, the Warrior Unit was *literally on Paradis to genocide the Eldians on it.* You people are so bad at hiding your bias that it's borderline comical.