I have been playing longer than anyone here -- age 70 and playing much of my life. 4W, 3W, 1W, you name it -- always a journeyman, never a legend. Married x 45 years, worked and paid for my entire college and medical school education but always found sanctuary in the game, win or lose. So, Mr Liu, you are playing the perfect game for a different reason than why I -- or any of my 4 sons play (one of whom runner up senior mens world championship 2018) -- love of the game. It ain't about the $$ or the fame, sir. If this is what you think, mate, then you have far bigger problems than HB addiction. Grow up, study hard, devote yourself to a career and family...but rediscover the game for the passion and not wht material gains are in it for you. Btw, ATP tennis requires way more devotion and maturity than you are exhibiting here anyway.

I understand the desire to elevate handball over other sports such as tennis and basketball. But those sports also have numerous nuances and complexities. Handball is not intrinsically superior. And I fear the important parts of your message could be lost to an attack on your effort to claim otherwise. Anyway, my view is that the reason handball is not a mainstream or popular sport has nothing to do with the income level of the players, their attitude, or the cost of playing the game. After all, basketball is essentially just as cheap and has the same character of players yet it is a thousand times more played and watched. The same goes for soccer. Rather, the reason handball is not popular is because handball is virtually unknown in most of the U.S. I bet there are more handball walls in New York City -- about 2000 -- than in the rest of the country (maybe the world) combined. And the only reason there are handball courts here in New York City is because of a confluence of two events that did not exist anywhere else. (1) heavy Irish immigration (they brought the game here from Ireland) and (2) the ascension to power of a man named Robert Moses, who wanted to keep the masses happy and, in service of that goal, built hundreds of parks all over New York City in the 1920's through 1950's. New York is unique among major cities in having so many recreational facilities spread all over its residential areas. (Paris, for example, has exactly one public basketball court that I know of.) Because of the popularity of the game among the Irish, which spread to other groups here in New York, Robert Moses included handball walls in many of the parks he built. So, handball became even more popular. That's probably why you play it: a handball wall was easily accessible to you. Handball is one of the most New York things there is. Most of the rest of the world has never heard of handball. For that reason, no one is interested in watching it on television. So the sport is likely to stay in just the few places it is now. One last point: I completely understand your desire to avoid all the negativity that some players show. But that's easily done. Find some good players who are also decent human beings and spend time playing handball with them. There are plenty of such players around. You sound like one of them.

@Eugene_Liu304

3 жыл бұрын

you won the comment of the year, hit me up

@HandballEntertainmentNetwork

3 жыл бұрын

Well Said.

@sachakruithof2365

3 жыл бұрын

We play in Spain too. Check it this International Tournament in Spain..kzread.info/dash/bejne/h6Ol0JWCitetYLQ.html

@stevenangulo3225

3 жыл бұрын

There just needs to be an influx of courts built around schools and playgrounds. Guaranteed this sport gets big in a fee years. Lets every person who has access to a basketball court have a handball court, in the united states.

@saroyafanniel8932

3 жыл бұрын

Ditto...

I'm came to this conclusion after having a long talk with my uncle. He told me if I keep practicing and become the best ill be a bum. I then quit and worked on my life. Now I'm almost 40 and I have what I never thought I would.... then I discovered handball again. This time not to be the best, not because I'm just a street kid, but for excersice. Started playing and lost over 30 pounds, my testosterone had increased, i started working out again, my dad bod is gone. I think people need something to play. A goal. I once felt like you but years later I'm realizing that you can get much more out of handball than you think.

@mikelugo8983

2 жыл бұрын

ok. ok. respect. Let of steam get in shape meet people socialic

True handball greats can balance the two,a job and handball supremacy,it’s up to the individual

"as long as im trapped in this city, ill be trapped in this game". I felt that TT. Lets play a game though , where do you play?

@Eugene_Liu304

3 жыл бұрын

hoyt park

I grew up on the streets of Los Angeles playing ball. Unfortunately our great sport of handball doesn't get any recognition or respect lt actually deserves. Yes our sport have so much history but Hate to say this, in LA the non players treat it like a jail house sport. I feel I need to change that. They are knocking more outdoor courts in LA. It sucks, you do see guys drinking, smoking, betting, arguing out loud, the cholos hanging around. See, I do this for a passion and I achieve so many goals of mine in Handball. Reach #1 (4-wall) , won many multiple tournaments, from Jr Nationals, winning Worlds, a collegiate title, qualify to be a pro. Honeslty there's hope and structure in this game but as Americans we should promote this lovely game of ours, for the better. We need to have great leaders to change the opinions of others. I will always play this sport and it's time to give back what handball provided for me.

@Eugene_Liu304

3 жыл бұрын

i'll try go LA and play someday

I grew up in NJ in the 80s, nearly every town had a handball court. Noone cared about a future in handball. It was you and your regular pals and the other neighborhood peeps. Shit, we even got dropped off in the morning an hour early to play handball at school before class. Such a simple game that can bring the neighborhood together that almost anyone can enjoy. You could have a miserably poor existence, be a geek, or any other stereotype and yet at the wall your a fuckin legend. I do wish that it was more popular across the country. I'm in Texas now, hand ball court is a foreign term.

@mikelugo8983

2 жыл бұрын

facts Bronx love 183.

@Maddtuna

Жыл бұрын

where in NJ?

@roblogic3660

Жыл бұрын

@@Maddtuna Livingston near caldwell and the oranges

@Manolo85

4 ай бұрын

We throw Opens tournaments in East Orange, NJ. Third one coming up this September.

Nice to meet a new player for the game I love. We need to get on the courts in person. I am the guy that's pushed this sport to some Glory but it does need more.

Handball is a lifetime sport it's kind of like a martial art it's a beautiful process it brings you back in full Circle. The Alpha and the Omega. Your ending was breathtaking!

Handball is fun - that’s a good enough reason to play it. The friendships people make are deeper than in other sports I’ve played, and they make peoples lives better than many investments. This whole message seems really shallow to me. Worthy things in life are not about “arriving” - they are about the process of development together. I don’t know anybody who played a lot of handball and regretted it. Beyond this classist argument - you ignore the fact that the people playing are playing handball instead of some negative things. Handball saves lives. Throw some melodramatic music behind that and play handball. It’s a better use of your time than this video.

I'm sorry that your family had to cook pork fried rice and chicken wings with hot sauce all day, in that same black corner NY ghetto. But I feel happy that you made it out with discipline, hard work and school. Was your joint close to Nostrand Ave? Some people plays NY Handball, few others are good at flipping fried rice with their wok.

Play the sport because u like it, not because of how much money u can make out of it. I understand that you’re trying to point out that handball cant get you anywhere and I agree with u, but handball is not only only a sport it’s a community that brings people together just like any other sports and that’s what life is about

@abiansacks6622

Жыл бұрын

Brings people together irl, well said

I think that the joy and the body building you get is overall worth it! But you do have a good point

Wow the opening statement hit like a ton of bricks. Just yesterday I looked across the playground in Chinatown nyc and I saw a very well recognized A player sitting down with a body language of no hope or no purpose and he’s a well recognized player. Just thinking about what he said years ago how he rejected basketball and football I guess scholarship on a video about nyc handball and he also mentioned where he works I wonder if he regrets those words.

it's nobler to play something so pure for only the love of the game.

@user-jv4rq4qe1d

Ай бұрын

I agree. Not everything is about money, it's purer without it.

I played for years with alot of the same guys,and we didn't do it looking for a career, we did it because we enjoyed the game ,and enjoyed playing against each other,when we play every thing like work and bills and all the other things life seems to throw at you ,wash away for a brief moment while we play, if you come to the court expecting anything else besides having a good time with friends, Then you have chosen the wrong sport

The best part of the game is the amazing people you meet. I've been playing this sport since I was 15. My father both southern and northern Californian Hall of famer have enjoyed this sport our whole lives.

I use to be hours on the court rainbow park sunset park Brooklyn morning to sundown. Their is an addiction to the sport. The amount of Endorphins you release from smacking that ball. I’ve seen a lot of bad things happen in my years of just being on the floor a lot of drinking and gambling going on. Couldn’t enjoy a free game without everyone playing for money. Same situation on grand street Chinatown. I will always love the game of handball But I would rather have my priorities straight and balance out my time between God, marriage and raising children. I may not be as good as I once was but I still play here and there Lose or win I have nothing to prove but all to gain from strangers I played against and with and made some pretty cool friends. We could also have a life and be the best if you truly are passionate about the sport the key is balance

Very well made video!!!! You have very good opinions about handball and speak your truth. I like to think how can I help the sport of handball more then give up. Where do ya play??!! would love to play

@Eugene_Liu304

3 жыл бұрын

my home court is hoyt, wbu?

I must agree with Liu. I started to play at the age of 11 years old in Pico Rivera CA. I watched some of the greatest players when it was an actioned packed sport at large tournaments with rules and no betting or pot smokers/crackheads. The game was beautiful and athletes played the game. Soon after the CHANGA game came around which was more adjusted to the none athletes that drank and smoked pot. I see a lot of comments on here and some of the comments bieng shared are from players I know. I have had conversations with top pros in the game and most agree with the comments made by Liu. Most have dedicated so much time to the game and got a few dollars out of the game. Like Lui, I also noticed at a young age that the game I loved would go nowhere. Most of my friends and successful people I looked up to play the game as a good recreational sport and that's all it has been for me. Many of the courts that have been taken down in LA have been because of our friends that drink, piss and bring drugs to the courts. In Ireland, handball is a national sport that attracts some of the country's best athletes and it shows because of the dominance they show on the court. In the USA it's a dying sport just look at the presence of payers that attended this year's USHA nationals. Yes, the sport is an Unpleasant Truth even when it has been called the Perfect Game and we can all defend our thoughts because it's a sport that is in our hearts but it is what is.

I play because I love to play it. 4 wall is the money game and is very very professional, no hustle. Watch the Irish guys, Paul Brady, a very serious athlete.

Handball is good for your body but lets not forget another very important positive to becoming one of the best, networking. You meet a lot of people, some people in high places who do in fact help with career progression so yes handball doesnt end up paying you like a professional athlete but it does give you new friendships and career opportunities that could get you closer to a better life for yourself.

Mi estimado te invito a que nos visites en nuestras canchas en Ecuador. Asi mismo aqui no hay grandes patrocinadores ni dinero en los torneos que realizan los pocos organizadores de los mismos. Mas sin embargo tenemos la camaderia y el amor por el juego. Son casi 37 años jugando este deporte. Espero seguir manteniendome activo para seguir jugando y aprendiendo algo nuevo de este deporte. Un abrazo.

@Eugene_Liu304

8 ай бұрын

yo estaba en ecuador hace 2 meses

@hectorcentenosudario9723

8 ай бұрын

@@Eugene_Liu304 Estuviste en el parque samanes ? Conociste las canchas ? Los jugadores?.Espero vuelvas de nuevo. Saludos.

young players enjoy the game .Put get that degree or city job.We get older quick u need plan B trust me..Ive heard guys say they didnt plan for the future but thier great at handball..I still love the game.

Handball event Sunday at Thomas Edison high school. July26

Handball is the best sport…

Interesting.. u made so many points.. i think u have to focus on your main idea, because is not clear. There is players who play to be athlete and pro who wanna make money? And there is nothing at end ? Or there is players who plays for stress realize or having exercise as u said in part 2?. According to your video you are playing with 2 ideas. However there is small amount of players in nyc who only plays and dont work. But for high percentage of players they have job and handball is just their hobby. Being pro yes you can't achieve much but pain. But being whom wanna play for own enjoyment not for money you achieve alot, exercise, keep body feed by not spending any money at same time enjoying the game.

got a left shoulder injury .... still miss the game but can never play as good with only one arm.

@vincedemo2752

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen a guy with 1 arm play and beat people. Learn how to backhand with the good arm. A bad shoulder usually means no overhead swings. So any shot from the chest or higher, use the backhand.

It wonder what would happen if players in NYC organized and reached out to the GAA Handball Organization in Ireland.

anything is possible. you can create your reality. but yes financial is a big part. also most sports are funded by the government and backed up by corporations. its possible for handball to get there but who is willing to do it. i think if u love handball its best to start small. like angel marquez who makes tutorial videos. start small. handball united is cool too. the small things matter eventually handball can get there. be the change you want to see. the way to elevate handball is to throw tournaments and the prizes have to be big. its human biology. reward system. but rewarding people to play handball and they forget about their lives is bad too. handball has to incorporate schooling and education work help etc. i plan to run a tournament in the future and i will give a real gold medal but first i need to get financially free. good luck to those who have love for the sport.

I just torn my leg ligament I was a regular player

Brother you spiill the tea three times but you are absolutely correct!!!...

alot of colleges have handball programs,

You got singles next time I fly out to New York

10 thousand dollar tournament now 😅Its a progress

I love handball with a passion but it’s true there’s nothing at the end of it

@Merrch

3 жыл бұрын

which is literally the only problem with handball

@alejandropreciado1814

3 жыл бұрын

I think enjoying it is enough, not everything in life needs something at the end of it. We are all headed to the grave, no matter how much you achieve in your endeavors. I just want to enjoy every day until the time comes, and handball helps me do that.

@kingdavid3366

3 жыл бұрын

There’s nothing at the end of anything.

@grahamsmith6210

2 жыл бұрын

That's true for 99.9% of people in any sport At least in handball, you have a realistic shot of maybe winning a tournament some day if you grind hard enough

I understand handball it is a street sport ,it is not a official sports with no sponsors ,i play it because i Love handball it is so Fun ,addicted ,also let me forget my problems but i just play like hobby there it is not future on handball ,it is just a street handball nothing more .

3:55- your wrong. NHL players have so many gear requirements yet they make way less than other sports

People play because they Wang to not because they have too. You say your trapped here as a 22 year old person that's considered an adult people can make their own decision no one is obligated.

If money=success don't play ANY sport. Don't go to college either.

I don’t think he understands the dynamic of handball. It’s not about money at the end of the day. It’s about companionship, competitiveness, and the streets. It’s a game made for New York. It’s the street element of the game which makes it attractive. It is meant to give you happiness and piss you off. Shit talking is always welcomed and the money won is just a bonus for loving something so much. It’s also a game that is on the rise across this country and world. I see more videos being posted daily of people playing handball then ever before. More eyes equals more exposure which is what the game increasingly is getting.

glad its an opinion, and i mean usually people that say a certain sport sucks, they usually suck themselves ijs

It's our responsibility, we have a community that seems that we actually care, look at pickle ball which seem it require so low skill and it receiving good publication.

You spelled addictive wrong

It’s a pastime. You’re getting in cardio and you’re enjoying yourself. Most people that play any sport will never make it professionally. It’s unfortunate that there’s no true professional path, but that’s not gonna be a problem for 99.9999% of people that play competitive sports.

What is your issue? Money is not the standard. Handball is about camaraderie with fellow players and staying physically active in a sport....

Facts i was told this. atc15 years old.Im 56 and so glad i listen..Lets just say im doing well Not due to handball. I still play but its not that serious.The only guy that ok is Ruben Gonzalez but he got into. Raquet.before that all he had was a bounch of troophies he goes back to the 70 ..Angel Marques says the same thing.Basically wasted his life. u are so right

Anything to get you moving is it a waste of time

I know A players that have high 6 figure jobs. So not all!

Handball has been a dieing sport. The handball courts in NYC are being taken over by pickleball. Instead of hitting ball against the wall you can hit your opponent for a point in pickleball. Pickleball is the fastest growing sport. I can teach you how to play pickleball and I guarantee you'll love it and you'll get pick up games all over the world!

Skate board is in olympics.street sports..Hmmmmm can. handball be next. Many been. waiting...Skate board in the olympics this year. peace. bronx love 183. Even thoughts of Breaking being entered.Break dancing as the word knows it. Lets see what future brings..

@mikelugo8983

2 жыл бұрын

One thing for sure that players will have to control thier anger...The world will be watching

got a good point u can play hadball in prison not tennis

If you think handball is bad try running. Only the truly genetically gifted can be the best. So why do so many people run, it's pointless? You do it because you love to do it. If you love playing hanb ball, play handball, life is shorter then you think. Nobody's gonna remember us a 100 years from now.

Even kadeem went to handle his business..Black justin just stoped playing fantastic player..The A players of today get a degree in something...

'brooklynhandball' is right on. Yet, in addition, you have to love this game like you Love your own Life. It is *like* Life: it is how you handle the ball you're given. This sport is contentious and is for passionate, driven and self confident (yes, a little haughty too) people. Yet, also - let us be real and honest: Handball is a 'minority' sport. Basketball and baseball are too yet not to the extent of Handball; it is mostly 'black' and 'LatinX'. The Asian community is a recent addition of the past decade (here in NYC). The reasons for it being dissed are complex and is a multi-leveled socio-political juggernaut we could debate until the cows come home. --Founder, The West 4th Handball Club ____________________________________________________________________________________

You're at an age where you're not going to get anything out of tennis either, by your parameters. Only kids who are dominating NYJTL have any hope of that. By the time your age ends in -teen if you are not dominating in a junior league of some kind, recreational sports are for nothing more than the enjoyment, the exercise, and maybe a smidget of personal glory here and there. Handball is no better than the other sports recreationally but it's no worse either. Could 1-wall handball make it to that professional/Olympic level one day? Perhaps. It all starts at the bottom. There's no NYJHL and only 11% of NYC high schools have a handball team. It's not even a popular sport in its own city. I don't know the percentage of colleges in the USA that have handball teams but I'm sure it's far less than that. Until those numbers drastically change it's going to remain a street sport. If your goals in a recreational sport are a great workout, great friends, and great post-work stress relief, you've come to the right place. If your goals are maintaining a pipeline to big money, sponsors, and a Wikipedia page, then you're better off with pickleball. I agree that kids who are a single-digit age and are showing potential to get to the top of another sport should not be strayed to handball. For something-teen year olds who have not shown any potential, nothing wrong with them taking up handball. That market will always be there.

WE LOVE THE GAME YOU DONT THAT WHY IN CONEY ISLAND AND W4 THEY STILL PLAYING IN THEY 40S 50S 60S 70S 80S IN THE COLD STOP COMPARING TENNIS TO HAND BALL U NEED A COACH & A TRAINER TENNIS LESSON IS $200 DOLLARS AN HOUR

Yo you got singles…

If nobody cares to watch then there's no money to be made.

It just never picked up on a national level. Also, there's no financial incentive for handball as you said. Anyone that takes handball seriously is a loser in my eyes unless you're at the top of your game and winning most tournaments. It's just something to do for fun and to stay fit. Anything more than that is a waste of time. Let me say that I feel most of the people that are obsessed with handball are often using handball to escape from the realities of life.

@alejandropreciado1814

3 жыл бұрын

Handball can be a way to create life long friendships, great moments and good times, and what’s life if not good times with good peoples?

@chrisc1184

3 жыл бұрын

@@alejandropreciado1814 I never said not to play handball. I'm just saying not to make your life center around handball. There's a bigger world out there. Just sayin

@binlongwu8908

3 жыл бұрын

You’re statement is irrelevant, you said that you think people who take handball seriously is a loser, unless they are top players who win.. but if you don’t take it seriously then how are you able to achieve top and get better. You just sound like someone who can beat average players and just making excuses on KZread

@chrisc1184

3 жыл бұрын

@@binlongwu8908 Nah, I used to play quite a bit and was beating high Bs (which is far from an average player). I noticed that many of the serious players didn't have much of a life outside of handball and these players are not even trying to go pro. This makes me ask why would you take handball seriously when there's no incentive? Many are using it as an escape.

@mikelugo8983

2 жыл бұрын

whao.

You're right! You are immature. Its exercise. Health is wealth. You're diluted in the mind with fixation on money and fame.

@Eugene_Liu304

3 жыл бұрын

says the loser

What's up Yuzhen. I think you need to review your video and change the slight flaw of the word 'Addicative' to 'Addictive'.

Take you're L and leave the game to actual handball player, this sport isn't for you broski

@meskism7271

3 жыл бұрын

Take his ass back where ever he came from so he doesn't feel so trapped. Mr. Softie isn't from where we play. All that shit he says is part of handball. Don't like it stay yo ass a C player. Quit the crying.

sound like u hating red bull sponsorsed handball & nike we have the worlds every 4 years rookie won 23 thousand 1st place there is no tennis courts in the inner city that why there is no blacks or Hispanic handball is a new york sports if it was in every state then it would be bigger if nike is not making no money they not going to sponsor you handball got a lot of these kids off the streets do ur home work we got cops; lawyers plumbers playing handball stop hating (fred w4s) 50yrs playing

JESUS CHRIST IS COMING BACK PEOPLE REPENT OF YOUR SINS AND ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR TODAY NOT TOMORROW PEOPLE WHICH IS PROMISED TO NOONE ON THIS EARTH PEOPLE

@sagatisbeast

Жыл бұрын

Amen bro. God bless you. ❤🙏🏽

@andram4161

Жыл бұрын

I wanted to leave a comment somewhere -I appreciate this kids personal opinion, the way he openly trys to juggle and fails shows he's curious to others opinions and possibly looking for that camaraderie Handball gives, Between my family alone we have about a 100 years and probably more of playing handball... So I will leave you with one of our family quotes. " if God wanted us to play racquetball he would have made our hands into webs" 😄. So. caL Handball, Gil And Lenny Handball promotions.