an unnecessarily thorough recap of the LUNAR CHRONICLES ('Cinder' by Marissa Meyer)

these books were my absolute JAM in middle school! i ate them up!!
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required reading ✊😔 (not really)
Hale, Sierra. “Postracial Futures and colorblind ideology.” Race in Young Adult Speculative Fiction, 22 Apr. 2021, pp. 111-128, doi.org/10.14325/mississippi/....
Hoffman, Kelly M., et al. “Racial bias in pain assessment and treatment recommendations, and false beliefs about biological differences between blacks and whites.” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, vol. 113, no. 16, 4 Apr. 2016, pp. 4296-4301, doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1516047113.
Omosigho, Pius Omoruyi, et al. “Stigma and infectious diseases in Africa: Examining impact and strategies for reduction.” Annals of Medicine & Surgery, vol. 85, no. 12, 1 Nov. 2023, pp. 6078-6082, doi.org/10.1097/ms9.000000000....

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  • @radioactiveshorty3801
    @radioactiveshorty38017 күн бұрын

    England and Europe being different “countries”……girl predicted brexit

  • @cymbelinesgf

    @cymbelinesgf

    7 күн бұрын

    the tories read the lunar chronicles confirmed

  • @myrrhder8964

    @myrrhder8964

    7 күн бұрын

    Lmaooooo, she was ahead of her time 😌

  • @psaikik

    @psaikik

    4 күн бұрын

    england is still part of europe. europe is a continent, the eu is NOT europe

  • @ritikasharma3362

    @ritikasharma3362

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@@psaikik I don't see any difference

  • @laurabrendel9584

    @laurabrendel9584

    3 күн бұрын

    Neither Europe nor the EU are one country and England was before the Brexit already an Independent country.

  • @triplemproductions2350
    @triplemproductions23508 күн бұрын

    I’m shocked to learn maybe the Lunar Chronicles isn’t as high quality writing as I had assumed all these years after reading and loving them as a kid…

  • @francescakyanda9182

    @francescakyanda9182

    8 күн бұрын

    me eating this series up in high school and barely being able to stomach them in college

  • @kekayowrites

    @kekayowrites

    8 күн бұрын

    I mean, they *are* YA books so they were made for our younger selves, before our tastes shifted

  • @anapaulagonzalezduran8170

    @anapaulagonzalezduran8170

    7 күн бұрын

    I noticed that too during re-reading, it seemed more exciting when I was in middle school but now in college it feels to basic, simple or even nonsensical

  • @Itsgay2read

    @Itsgay2read

    6 күн бұрын

    I think you need a bit of unhinged to really get people talking about your books. I mean, we are sitting through an hour plus long video talking about them so the author did something right.

  • @oceanrosethatsailsacrossth3466

    @oceanrosethatsailsacrossth3466

    6 күн бұрын

    @@anapaulagonzalezduran8170facts

  • @sophiaeck
    @sophiaeck5 күн бұрын

    Cinder did not have enough Episode diamonds to get a dress for the ball so the only other option was garbage

  • @yipyip3044

    @yipyip3044

    Күн бұрын

    this comment made me laugj so fucking hard thank you

  • @icedgarlic

    @icedgarlic

    22 сағат бұрын

    HELP 😭😭

  • @zionmeier2531

    @zionmeier2531

    21 сағат бұрын

    best comment

  • @GlitteredGoose
    @GlitteredGoose7 күн бұрын

    As a black woman, I just want to say thank you for pointing out how subtle racism can sneak its way into literature. 1. Taking countries largely holding POC and reducing them to one country (“Asia” and “Africa”) while not doing that for Europe is wild. And 2. Most plagues and pandemics throughout history started in Europe but for some reason the author decided to have her plague come from Africa. I know they’re just books but when this stuff happens constantly, it’s so hard to ignore.

  • @happyweek11

    @happyweek11

    6 күн бұрын

    Not meant to offend, just trying to learn. Most Americans for example doesn’t know all the countries in Asia and Africa, hell not also Europe but they probably heard of some. How would you write in an African character from example Rawanda or Namibia or Angola without directly stating from the character own mount where they are from? I’m in no way a author, but I like to write, and that’s always a thing I wonder on when it comes to characters when the main may not be the best when it comes to countries or like other than - oh they probably from Scandinavia they say they from the north - type of stuff. I have a character from myanmar, not at all a big character, very much a side character and I have no idea how to show he’s from there without having him say it. He has a traditional name from myanmar or Burma as it was once called, and I looked up facial features to see how people from myanmar looks. But readers that doesn’t know myanmar, will probably just think - oh he’s Asian - and leave it at that. How would be the best way to show he’s from there? I have a character from Rawanda who also have a common name who directly state in a dialogue his nationality due to referring to something that happened to him while he lived there ( doesn’t anymore ) but my character from myanmar, I have no away how to naturally show it as he’s such a minor character but still think he deserves it.

  • @caramazzola2399

    @caramazzola2399

    6 күн бұрын

    ​@@happyweek11 hey I'm just a random white guy so maybe I'll be super off base, but maybe talk to a Burmese person if you're researching how to portray a character from Myanmar?

  • @timeturnerdust6093

    @timeturnerdust6093

    6 күн бұрын

    LITERALLY

  • @timeturnerdust6093

    @timeturnerdust6093

    6 күн бұрын

    @@happyweek11 bestie, maybe don't ask a random black woman a question about writing an African character if she never offered advice on the topic??????? there are tons of creators and platforms that you can find that offer advice, including youtube videos if you don't want to leave the website for whatever reason.

  • @the_entropia

    @the_entropia

    6 күн бұрын

    ​@@happyweek11 Just do your research lol. You need to know abt political tensions in the region, how patriotism is seen, what divides the people, what are some cultural perspectives that impact their worldview etc. Yes, it's that easy.

  • @crazyth1ngs600
    @crazyth1ngs6007 күн бұрын

    Nooo, the way I collapsed to the floor at the "Don't worry, he's just an omega", I did NOT expect that 😭😭😭

  • @xylotekose

    @xylotekose

    7 күн бұрын

    i lost it at the "alpha female. i like that" part 💀💀

  • @jasminv8653
    @jasminv86537 күн бұрын

    What Im learning from the racist worldbuilding is that somehow Brexit exist in this universe

  • @waaaaaaaaah652
    @waaaaaaaaah6528 күн бұрын

    WHEN WE NEEDED HER MOST SHE RETURNED🫡🫡🫡

  • @peachykeent1222
    @peachykeent12227 күн бұрын

    i totally agree with bringing up the mistreatment of black people by the medical industry but i thought that the "cyborg draft" was supposed to be some allegory for disabled people? the reason cinder is a cyborg is because of an accident that occurred, meaning the cyborg-ifcation process is some type of medical procedure similar to our prosthesis work. i also think it makes sense to compare because they're seen as less "important" than humans and they're "owned", maybe similar to a conservatorship or medical power of attorney? i don't know, just rambling here. i'm not disabled so i'm very happy to hear others' thoughts on this. great video!

  • @mybirdiswierd5307

    @mybirdiswierd5307

    2 күн бұрын

    Reading them as a kid I always felt the same, and interpreted all the cyborgs as their perceived "second class citizens" who had disabilities and were being shunned from society. But I guess I had grown up with disabled siblings and family members, so I was kinda set up for that interpretation I guess lol

  • @lunafowler5736

    @lunafowler5736

    Күн бұрын

    Disabled people and black people have both been abused by the medical industry, and there are nuances to each kind of medical abuse, but I think the cyborg situation in the book could be an allegory for either. Idk if the author was really thinking it through that much lol, so the allegory is so vague that I think it's just about like general medical abuse of people considered second class citizens.

  • @kairi99roxas
    @kairi99roxas4 күн бұрын

    You skipped over Winter's backstory of why she doesn't use her powers!? That's what stuck with me the most, it goes so hard! A servant tried to off herself because she was being r**ed over and over so Winter mind controls her to be happy for years, while she's still being r**ed, until the servant finally actually offs herself and winter realized she had tortured this girl, and she vowed to never do it again!

  • @zionmeier2531

    @zionmeier2531

    16 сағат бұрын

    oh my god i forgot about this… these books get dark lowkey wtf

  • @ratsbys
    @ratsbys8 күн бұрын

    NOT THE LIN MANUEL MIRANDA LOVE IS LOVE IS LOVE IS LOVE IS-

  • @isawsevenbirds
    @isawsevenbirds8 күн бұрын

    My friend got me into reading these when i was like 14, i loved them so much 😭😭 cant wait to see the potentially problematic things my unperceptive teen brain didnt pick up on

  • @isawsevenbirds

    @isawsevenbirds

    8 күн бұрын

    FR though I love love love Marissa Meyer's books, as a big Alice in Wonderland girlie Heartless has always been a favourite, and the Renegades series is so fun, and I say this as a 20 year old woman

  • @nikki.ragnvindr

    @nikki.ragnvindr

    7 күн бұрын

    Same lmao I'm kinda scared. I loved Heartless so much, too. I dropped Renegades, though, because it got boring and predictable and corny imo.

  • @jojoa939

    @jojoa939

    5 күн бұрын

    @@nikki.ragnvindr the renegades ending was really disappointing tbh..none of the issues with the renegades organization were ever addressed...basically the people in power who abused said power are still in power at the end of the book but somehow everyone is ok with it for reasons i don't even understand

  • @stevenlucas9963
    @stevenlucas99637 күн бұрын

    Hearing about "Jacin" immediately shot me back to mt first time playing Sims4 and I had a preloaded sim named Jayceon in one of the fancy houses and I tried to make him electrocute himself so he would die and I could give the house to someone else who didn't have a stupidass name, but then he aged up into an old man and I realized his life's ambition was to find true love and he had NO FRIENDS so I felt bad and made it my life's mission to get him a girlfriend before he died. Which I did, and he and his gf died on the same day and I was so emotional that I turned off aging forever. This has absolutely nothing to do with anything but I felt the need to share it. Anyways thanks for the trip down memory lane, love your videos xo

  • @girlwholovescinema
    @girlwholovescinema7 күн бұрын

    Forever wishing i was a half-cyborg lunar princess that has a questionable prince wrapped around my finger.

  • @Pharm2be
    @Pharm2be7 күн бұрын

    The way I was obsessed with Scarlet and Wolf’s relationship as a child and was so absolutely crushed and devastated with the way they ended. I immediately learned I wasn’t a furry lol

  • @marocat4749

    @marocat4749

    7 күн бұрын

    Thats omregaverse, not furry. omegaverse is the erotica that is with mpreg and disproven wolf misconceptions.

  • @Pharm2be

    @Pharm2be

    7 күн бұрын

    @@marocat4749no it was his transformation at the end that I couldn’t handle. That’s furry.

  • @theflickchick9850
    @theflickchick98505 күн бұрын

    Oh my goodness, not the only explicitly African character being named JAMAL and existing to human traffic one of the women characters. YIIIKKKESSS.

  • @kaylawilkins
    @kaylawilkins7 күн бұрын

    1. cinder being the lunar princess is giving barbie princess charm school omg 2. don't apologize for thinking critically !! by far my fav part of your summaries are when you break down the problematic nature of these series' ! this one was especially good- an article and everything LOL i love your channel sm girlie

  • @icewave3031

    @icewave3031

    7 күн бұрын

    so I'm not the only one who thought that! when I was reading this book I predicted it fully because of princess charm school

  • @Ceruleansquid-lo3iv
    @Ceruleansquid-lo3iv8 күн бұрын

    second comment, but the wolf/scarlet romance is not furry stuff, its omegaverse stuff.

  • @ainsleesbookclub

    @ainsleesbookclub

    8 күн бұрын

    I will not ask you to do elaborate because I don’t want to know ✊😔

  • @Ceruleansquid-lo3iv

    @Ceruleansquid-lo3iv

    8 күн бұрын

    @@ainsleesbookclub you really do not

  • @lucataylor499

    @lucataylor499

    7 күн бұрын

    @@ainsleesbookclubit’s actually really uplifting to hear about people that haven’t been cursed with the knowledge of omegaverse (you’re so lucky for that)

  • @hrmnzdmatryoshka
    @hrmnzdmatryoshka7 күн бұрын

    I appreciate how you research & challenge harmful stereotypes about africa and provide links to helpful resources

  • @amelooloo
    @amelooloo7 күн бұрын

    i only read the first two books and i only really remembered that cinder was a cyborg with a metal leg (my disabled queen) so imagine my surprise when you said there was a country on the MOON????? HOW DID I FORGET THAT PART 😭😭😭

  • @scarlettrrosee
    @scarlettrrosee7 күн бұрын

    Ya know, even though this does have some controversial aspects and things that probably should have had more details, this series is still one of the best plotted and foreshadowing YA series to date

  • @hazelsingh3887

    @hazelsingh3887

    7 күн бұрын

    That’s what I feel too!

  • @NixanAmbrose
    @NixanAmbrose5 күн бұрын

    If anyone wants to do more research on real life connections to better learn about where the "testing plague on cyborgs rather than humans" came from, the tuskegee syphilis study is a really great starting point to learn about racism in the medical industry. This is one of the studies I and probably many others had to study when it comes to medical research ethics^

  • @espighty
    @espighty6 күн бұрын

    The thing that consistently irked me the most about YA novels (and still bothers me to this day) is that EVERY main character ALWAYS has to have a love interest inserted into the story. As a child who read way too many books, I very quickly caught onto this pattern and got supremely sick of it. I read Cinder, and I picked up the sequel, but once I saw the new protagonist got a love interest of her own, I immediately put it down. So now, hearing the entire series recap, it's kind of vindicating to see that this trend of "every important female in the story needs a boyfriend!" continued. Makes me feel like I was right to put the book down, because now I KNOW I wouldn't have (personally) had fun with it. Your video was far more entertaining than the book could have been. 👍

  • @gracesull78756

    @gracesull78756

    2 күн бұрын

    yeah something about how often the cast of characters in these series perfectly paired off into relationships, whether within to other members or in general all found the "love of their life", always makes me roll my eyes a little lol. i will say, not to defend lunar chronicles, but bc it's twists on fairy tales it's slightly more acceptable to me for some reason (?) that each book introduces two major characters in line w the retelling that fit the "princess"/"prince roles". maybe i'm biased bc ngl young me did like the series and 2/3 couples in the ones i got to, and i had fun picking out nods to the OG and the who's who, then how knowing that could foreshadow. (also wasn't rly with it enough to notice or be bothered like i now would lol) and maybe i'm jaded and think it'd be too much to expect a YA series from that time to subvert the fairy tales enough to have "princesses" that don't need their respective prince, esp when it's still so common for every protagonist to have a happening love life lmao. but there def were ways to either just not lol, or even make character appear to be the "prince" but in a twist, that role in the story is filled differently than expected, or something where they don't have to all end coupled up in their happily ever after anyway sorry that was long, just thought you made an interesting point! didn't think of when reading, but now i def see it

  • @espighty

    @espighty

    2 күн бұрын

    @@gracesull78756 I suppose it's a far easier trope to pick up on if you are alienated by it like I was. Good point about the fairy tale aspect, but I wouldn't even give it a 100% pass for that either. The original red riding hood story doesn't have a prince! Maybe there's a huntsman in certain tellings, but I never remember him being anything near a love interest (correct me if I'm wrong about that). Which made the whole Scarlet and Wolf thing stick out past that fairytale excuse.

  • @gracesull78756

    @gracesull78756

    Күн бұрын

    @@espighty yeah definitely, i think it's much easier to see clearly from afar, hence why i also see it better now i'm more removed from it. and ohhhh so true, that's a fair point actually, i must've kinda forgotten he's the wolf and therefore there was no need for them to be together (and that dynamic just had issues iirc and i did not like them together bc even then it was kinda weird). ik he definitely would've been defending her against other mutants/whatever-they-were-called but even if he was more of a huntsman type doesn't mean he's necessarily the LI. i can't remember what story it is where i vaguely remember a huntsman type character that is a love interest for a red riding hood, but idk you're right it's not common. alright nvm w the fairy tales lol, i agree it doesn't get a full pass even still, but i overlooked that haha my bad. the others follow it, but i think book 2 going rouge does kinda show it wasn't for posterity or getting to use elements of the fairy tale, it was flat out just a creative decision by the author. in which case, i stand corrected, and yeah looking back having 8 main characters who all match into a relationship is ... unnecessary

  • @Anne-ks6wq

    @Anne-ks6wq

    Сағат бұрын

    it’s giving winx 😩

  • @pheonixrises11

    @pheonixrises11

    5 минут бұрын

    I remember feeling so alienated by romance being in every sinngle book because I’m on the asexual aromantic spectrum. seemed like books were saying it was an essential human experience, which made me feel… inhuman.

  • @kairi99roxas
    @kairi99roxas7 күн бұрын

    Gotta be the one to point out the Beijing is a huge global center of business, so someone not Chinese living there is NOT inherently racist. (The other stuff sure whatever)

  • @lunafowler5736

    @lunafowler5736

    Күн бұрын

    I don't think it's inherently racist on its own but I think in the context of her merging all of Africa into one country as well, it kind of gives the vibe like she wasn't considering any of the nuances of the nationalities of primarily POC countries. Especially since she did explicitly name France and England as well, and how French people seemed like they were distinguished as their own nationality within the country of Europe still as opposed to being part of a larger European nationality. So I think considering those things, it is kind of feels like she wasn't really thinking about how there are different kinds of east Asian people.

  • @whitefire5740
    @whitefire57408 күн бұрын

    the way i RAN i loved these books sm pls do red queen next !! the book of my middle school life

  • @CHiCguitar

    @CHiCguitar

    7 күн бұрын

    The ultimate shitty book for shitty book club!!! War Storm was awful :)

  • @juliana8374

    @juliana8374

    7 күн бұрын

    FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES RED QUEEN WENT S O DOWNHILL all my friends still love it and i just couldn't. it ruined the whole series for me lmao😭😭

  • @nikki.ragnvindr

    @nikki.ragnvindr

    7 күн бұрын

    ​@CHiCguitar omg yes I stopped reading after Maven died and hearing about it instead of having to finish the books would be great lol

  • @beehive5370

    @beehive5370

    7 күн бұрын

    I remember when I read that and I loved it and then realised how terrible the books were. Ultimate YA problematic book.

  • @the_entropia

    @the_entropia

    6 күн бұрын

    middle school life and curse...

  • @tyler-df3wy
    @tyler-df3wy8 күн бұрын

    17:56 the careful avoidance of saying among us, love it

  • @Lilfroggyonalillypad
    @Lilfroggyonalillypad7 күн бұрын

    i assumed that the plague was a reference to colonizers bringing a bunch diseases to america and infecting native americans but i can see your point

  • @ainsleesbookclub

    @ainsleesbookclub

    7 күн бұрын

    wow I totally didn’t read it that way, but that’s a super interesting take

  • @GracefullyClumsy

    @GracefullyClumsy

    2 күн бұрын

    @@kindateia How? I might be misremembering, but weren't their ancestors a bunch of rich people who shot themselves into space during a world war and left the rest of Earth behind? Or maybe that's just what I've accidentally made up over the years

  • @herz5159

    @herz5159

    2 күн бұрын

    ​@@GracefullyClumsyI remember at least some were just genuinely refugees trying to escape their tyrant and there horrible conditions they're in

  • @GracefullyClumsy

    @GracefullyClumsy

    2 күн бұрын

    @@herz5159 ooooohhhh you mean after? Yeah that’s definitely true

  • @idontlikekiwi
    @idontlikekiwi7 күн бұрын

    "Hey Amelia ☺" sounded so sincere I felt like an amelia

  • @PieNumber4

    @PieNumber4

    7 күн бұрын

    I *am* an amelia. I was *scared*

  • @idontlikekiwi

    @idontlikekiwi

    7 күн бұрын

    @PieNumber4 if I were you I would definitely be

  • @miabaughman9772

    @miabaughman9772

    Күн бұрын

    @@PieNumber4lmaooo so am I, it was a little startling

  • @tarynpolson8090
    @tarynpolson80907 күн бұрын

    The Selection Series, Modelland, and now the Lunar Chronicles?? How do you know all of my favourite terrible books, I love you 😭

  • @TobiasFangorIsntCis
    @TobiasFangorIsntCis7 күн бұрын

    I totally called the “mc with a mysterious past IS the princess with a mysterious fate” twist. Classic

  • @kiwid3628

    @kiwid3628

    2 күн бұрын

    Me too!!!! It's such an overused trope in YA novels that the second they mentioned a 'lost princess' I knew it that it would be the protagonist

  • @ms_mourning_dove
    @ms_mourning_dove4 күн бұрын

    So it’s known that Marrisa Meyer wrote Sailor Moon fanfic back in the early 2000’s so the moon kingdom is very much a nod towards that. I guess the lunar queen, Kai and Cinder is suppose to imitate the Beryl, Endymion and Serenity dynamic?

  • @RocketNinjaSlap
    @RocketNinjaSlap7 күн бұрын

    "There seems to be no effort being made [to stop this plague]. It's been fifteen years!" Yeah, and governments (plus most people) have been letting COVID-19 run rampant for basically the last five.

  • @theflickchick9850

    @theflickchick9850

    5 күн бұрын

    Yup. We are still in a pandemic and no one cares.

  • @monkeymamaa

    @monkeymamaa

    2 күн бұрын

    There are vaccines though 😅

  • @Coyoteari
    @Coyoteari7 күн бұрын

    Hold up. You’re telling me this is a story about a moon princess who doesn’t know she’s a moon princess at first & she needs to save the world from an evil queen? And her love interest is sort of a villain & manipulated by the evil queen for a bit? Does he also wear a tuxedo, or perhaps a mask? 🤔

  • @lizsmith1018

    @lizsmith1018

    3 күн бұрын

    Marissa Meyer started writing Sailor Moon fan fiction (and I think Star Wars and Harry Potter as well if I’m not mistaken) so the similarities weren’t subtle, and I’m pretty she even said they were on purpose because of how much she loved Sailor Moon growing up and wanted to incorporate it in the series

  • @call_rickey

    @call_rickey

    2 күн бұрын

    the series is based on a sailor moon au she wrote in college (I believe) :) she linked to it on her blog years and years ago now

  • @allaroundnobody7849
    @allaroundnobody78494 күн бұрын

    I’m surprised there was no real mention of Cress and Thorne's age gap. Cress is 16 during most of the books, while Thorne is in his 20. I was hardly cognizant of the fandom during its prime, but it seemed there was some discourse surrounding it seeing as Throne and Cress were also really popular ship. Scarlet and Wolf's age gap is technically one year larger since Wolf is 23, but at the very least Scarlet is a consenting adult at 18 and not a minor. I truly don’t think Meyer had any ill intent, but such a big deal is made out of how “inexperienced” Cress is and Throne's whole status as this flirty and sort of womanizing rogue just _feels_ icky, especially considering how they get one of the raunchiest kisses in the series. They could’ve had them like maturely discussed her feelings for him? Have it be an innocent crush where he’s flattered by Cress but ultimately declines, have Cress first real rejection from a boy be like a growing moment ,,,or have him hold off until she has more experience or have her not be 16 or…something? 😭 anything? Addendum: will never forget the tumblr post I once read defending the Thress ship where one of the main points was faulting people and saying they were complaining from a “Western mindset” and that the age of majority/consent everywhere isn’t 18. Like Throne isn’t…… _LITERALLY_ from a _in universe America_ and from a story written by whom I assume to be an _American_ where the age of majority is, _infact_ , still 18. 😭 Sure, we don’t know Lunar law and it could’ve universally lowered sometime between all those world wars, so maybe it’s technically okay but if we have to get ‘technical’ about it then I fear were missing the crux of the issue.

  • @allaroundnobody7849

    @allaroundnobody7849

    4 күн бұрын

    I know Thorne isn’t all that bad of a guy, and like I understand his character enough to know he and Cress really do have like,,, a connection that is more than this perceived power imbalance but like man,,, is that going to hold up in a court of law.

  • @ConfettiDragon

    @ConfettiDragon

    6 сағат бұрын

    God I forgot about that age gap. I'm just going to pretend cress is 18 when I reread these

  • @d25102
    @d251028 күн бұрын

    marissa meyer slayed heartless so hard i love that woman

  • @kurokura8379

    @kurokura8379

    7 күн бұрын

    that book was amazing. i'm biased because i love anything alice in wonderland related and anything tragic, but she ate with that book.

  • @freshbread4039

    @freshbread4039

    7 күн бұрын

    AAAUGH I loved that book so much! The ending broke my heart.

  • @LilyKing03

    @LilyKing03

    7 күн бұрын

    that was her!!? I loved that book haha

  • @mybirdiswierd5307

    @mybirdiswierd5307

    2 күн бұрын

    OH I need her to cover heartless actually it's one of my favorite books EVER

  • @francescakyanda9182
    @francescakyanda91828 күн бұрын

    I remember being 15 and reading Winter before a final exam while listening to “Havana” on repeat, these books were the shit!

  • @sn00ziaaa
    @sn00ziaaa8 күн бұрын

    YESS I LOVE THE LUNAR CHRONICLES

  • @arielgsb5178

    @arielgsb5178

    7 күн бұрын

    Samee

  • @princessdelfi
    @princessdelfi3 күн бұрын

    I remember that my favourite book was scarlet (former wolf number one fan here) and I LOVED how everything falls into place in the books and how everything was connected. My 13 year old brain was amazed

  • @gracesull78756

    @gracesull78756

    2 күн бұрын

    omg yes! it blew my mind, honestly this series is like the origin story for my love of interconnected plots with characters on seemingly different paths that start to intersect until the inevitable collision, and it rly did all fall into place so well. and i stand by the fact that this series did it well, and even though by now i've read more books w this that may be better, for a long time it was like the only time i read this and lowkey i'd still cite it as a satisfying example. tbh scarlet was my least fav of the three i read, im sorry dont remember why besides maybe my attention span and untreated adhd lmao, but eventually once i got into it and everything started coming together, oh i was so sat. (also was more of a kai girl myself, with thorne as a close second)

  • @micah1850
    @micah18503 күн бұрын

    as someone who is a little entrenched in internet culture... the alpha/omega thing originally didn't come from the manosphere alpha male stuff we have today, it was some scientist's misinterpretation of the hierarchy within wolf packs. idk if youve ever seen or heard of the "alpha & omega" animated movies from 2010, but that's kind of the gist of it. the author was probably trying to use that to denote "wolf hierarchy" within the org it then got turned into The Omegaverse, a fanfiction genre which i Don't think Meyer is intentionally referencing, but it would be funny edit: after that alpha female exchange... it might be the omegaverse.

  • @the_sapphirerose
    @the_sapphirerose7 күн бұрын

    Disclaimer that this is not me defending Meyer in any way shape or form for her worldbuilding choices (she definitely could have benefitted researching Japan's history, ESPECIALLY their war crimes which is what makes having a Japanese Emperor rule all of Asia super icky and got someone who actually knew how Chinese honorifics worked to help her out): I think some of the worldbuilding makes more sense if you realise that the series borrows heavily from Sailor Moon as well. We've got Cinder, who is the long lost moon princess (the first arc of the manga and anime are about the Sailor Senshi trying to find said long lost moon princess) and iirc Meyer stated fancasted her as Mew Azama who played Sailor Jupiter in the live action series. Scarlet is essentially a more impulsive Sailor Jupiter/Makoto Kino with a gun. Cress has Sailor Mercury/Ami Mizuno's tech knowledge and Anime!Sailor Venus/Minako Aino's obsession with love. And Winter is closer to Sailor Moon/Usagi Tsukino in personality than Cinder herself (who I'm struggling to make a comparison to an SM character personality-wise). Queen Levana is a Queen Beryl expy, and Kai is a Tuxedo Mask/Mamoru Chiba expy. Also important to note that these books were published around the time anime as a medium was starting to become more mainstream in the West than it had been previously, so I think a good chunk of the series' audience wouldn't be as aware of Sailor Moon going into these books.

  • @heathern8043

    @heathern8043

    2 күн бұрын

    This is super interesting!

  • @AttackOnAlchemist

    @AttackOnAlchemist

    2 күн бұрын

    Yeah Marissa Meyer was also a BNF in the Sailor Moon fandom for years and a lot of her early fans were following her from her fandom work- myself included. I literally sold the lunar chronicles to friends in high school by going “so basically it’s sailor moon”. I’m not saying no thought was put into it but I will say that when I first read Cinder the sailor moon parallels were mostly what got me through and filled in any blanks.

  • @lauramathews3151
    @lauramathews31516 күн бұрын

    The Sahara has never been solved. We fly over it, but mostly around, and yep camels are still better.

  • @mild-manneredapricot881
    @mild-manneredapricot8817 күн бұрын

    no but the way these books shaped my middle school experience? unparalleled. thank you for this video my middle school self is truly living

  • @thatrantinggirl7376
    @thatrantinggirl73767 күн бұрын

    These books, and specifically Winter, directly led to me howling in the middle of a silent writing period during my junior high English class. I enjoyed them a lot but I’m sure they don’t hold up because I remember even as a howling dumbass child I raised my eyebrow at some parts

  • @cecilia-pc5iy
    @cecilia-pc5iy7 күн бұрын

    they have to got to Paris while the other meet up in "Africa" . JUST Africa ??? 😭

  • @emmabales3468
    @emmabales34688 күн бұрын

    I looooove your videos. I think you would hate Fourth Wing. I'm reading it right now and despise it.

  • @rae3781

    @rae3781

    7 күн бұрын

    That book inspires me so much as a writer. Not because it's good but because if that can be traditionally publishes, my writing can.

  • @fionariley8004
    @fionariley80044 күн бұрын

    lmao i forgot how many times wolf got shot (also i've always thought that his actual name is just a sci-fi version of steve which cracks me up)

  • @Partyhatpossum
    @Partyhatpossum8 күн бұрын

    I have been anticipating your return in a way that should be studied by psychologists

  • @buttercroissant5018
    @buttercroissant50188 күн бұрын

    HELL YEAH I LOVE THIS SERIES

  • @unlivinh
    @unlivinh3 күн бұрын

    why is every relationship in these books except for winter and jacin between a teenage girl and a grown man😭😭😭

  • @ampix4669

    @ampix4669

    3 күн бұрын

    I swearrrr, Cress is like 16 and Thorne is in his mid twenties, and the power dinamic between them is kinda gross too

  • @owo4983

    @owo4983

    Күн бұрын

    ages from the wiki cinder: 16 kai: 18 scarlet: 18 wolf: 23 cress: 16 thorne: 20 winter: 17 jacin: 19 i mean the age gap between cinder and kai is the same as jacin and winter but its also especially worse with cress and thorne since cress has been isolated for most of her life. scarlet is at least pretty independent and living in an actual community

  • @unlivinh

    @unlivinh

    Күн бұрын

    @@owo4983 thank you for this😭 it’s nice to know the cinder and kai age gap isn’t what i thought it was… childhood still ruined tho

  • @marybear93
    @marybear938 күн бұрын

    YAY, I'm so happy for a new video!! And two hours?! You have spoiled us all 💖

  • @alyssafuller375
    @alyssafuller3758 күн бұрын

    The video came out last night and I was listening to it on the way home and then all of the sudden it was unavailable, very happy it back, it’s like 3 times longer now so I assume that’s why it wasn’t available, and I’m sat

  • @ainsleesbookclub

    @ainsleesbookclub

    8 күн бұрын

    lol sorry about that my computer and I were having a fight because it straight up wasn’t uploading 75% of the video? and during pride month no less honesty it’s just rude

  • @urfavvv

    @urfavvv

    8 күн бұрын

    Lol😂. Really rude

  • @alyssafuller375

    @alyssafuller375

    8 күн бұрын

    @@ainsleesbookclub I was so sad lol but I’m glad you won your battle and I can listen to cinder making really dumb decisions again 🥰

  • @universal_stupidity

    @universal_stupidity

    8 күн бұрын

    @@ainsleesbookclub the video was too powerful KZread decided it must be contained

  • @ohnoits
    @ohnoits5 күн бұрын

    This plot is SO FUN!! I will be rereading this series for sure, with a more critical eye this time

  • @iyapalot55
    @iyapalot558 күн бұрын

    ah my favorite background noise: people reviewing books for two hours

  • @eddisianc8639
    @eddisianc86398 күн бұрын

    I love this book club. We read the best books. ❤

  • @ainsleesbookclub

    @ainsleesbookclub

    8 күн бұрын

    only the best for the shitty book club besties 🫶🫶

  • @tragicallyfrankie
    @tragicallyfrankie8 күн бұрын

    THE WAY I WAS GONNA REREAD THE SERIES AND THIS DROPS

  • @RowanWisteria777

    @RowanWisteria777

    7 күн бұрын

    Real

  • @eggshed
    @eggshed7 күн бұрын

    the awful "asian" names and the incorrect honorifics killed me like GIRL WHAT WERE YOU THINKING??????

  • @wrtersbl0ck142
    @wrtersbl0ck1427 күн бұрын

    The way I was screaming "IT'S A BOAR!" at 1:33:59 was crazy lol anyways this video has inspired me to touch up some worldbuilding of some old characters AND was just good retelling like one would a soap opera so thank you as always for the AWESOME video!!💛💛💛Much love!!!

  • @Lee-ek7vn
    @Lee-ek7vn2 күн бұрын

    Ok but these books were really my bridgerton as a kid like yes their politics are rough but omg the romance and the tension it was so bad but little me thought it was the best thing I had ever read. These books will always have a special place in my heart lmao. I think if they recalled some of the less great politics in the books and fixed the different countries layout, they could make a really good series or movie saga especially with the modern effects they could use for glamor and luna

  • @AdelynSanders
    @AdelynSanders8 күн бұрын

    I really love your videos, really just barely controlled chaos

  • @keri7154
    @keri71547 күн бұрын

    Omg bless you lol I ate these books UP as a 20-something but I never finished the series 💀This is everything I didn't know I needed

  • @gracesull78756

    @gracesull78756

    2 күн бұрын

    i never finished either bc while ik i was excitedly anticipating the release of the last one, somehow never got around to it- now 21 and in the years since i often remember how much they had me by the throat yet i never finished 😭 every so often i consider going back to finally get closure this time lol

  • @yourlocalliz2125
    @yourlocalliz21258 күн бұрын

    i needed this so bad rn, and MY FAVORITE YA SERIES???

  • @lecheflam1311
    @lecheflam13117 күн бұрын

    I wonder how this held up bc these books were the SHIT in my middle school yrs edit: finished this video and my god yes!! i loved this recap so much!! glad u talked abt some of the more unsavory parts (which definitely slipped my mind as a preteen) but im genuinely shocked how well this held up? had it up there w/ some of my other faves (six of crows, hunger games, etc) and to hear it coming from someone around the same age/same mindset felt so validating for my younger self LOL. thanks again for the video!!

  • @tinof23beans
    @tinof23beans7 күн бұрын

    Just gonna drop a random, mildly interesting fact: it's cool that the Lunar princess was called Selene, because in Greek mythology, the original goodness of the moon (who developed more into a human personification of the moon as the myths developed) was called Selene.

  • @sarajoyelle7939
    @sarajoyelle79397 күн бұрын

    literally have read one book series in my life because i cannot commit to series yet i love to hear you talk about a series for 2 hours

  • @wooogie672
    @wooogie6727 күн бұрын

    god this series is such a throwback 😭😭

  • @Julia-se2kw
    @Julia-se2kw2 күн бұрын

    I honestly really loved this video! I came across these books when I was in middle school (I’m now a senior in college) and I just never picked them up bc I wasn’t into the space, sci-fi themes (even though I LOVED fairy tale retellings). Listening to you recap the series made me feel like I actually DID read these books in middle school, and I feel oddly nostalgic for this series even though I have never read any of the books before! I might actually start reading this series to see if it would have been something I liked in middle school!

  • @gracesull78756

    @gracesull78756

    2 күн бұрын

    omg i'm now a senior in college and came across them in middle school too, but i was the EXACT opposite of you bc i typically stayed far away from retellings but loved sci-fi and that was what drew me in 😭that's so funny to me, honestly they make me so nostalgic bc even though i was obsessed i never read the last one and every few years i consider rereading them to finally finish and get the closure my middle school self never did (also honestly if you like retellings, that was a rly high point of these imo, seeing pieces of the og with a unique twist and how the parts of the fairy tales are fulfilled in sometimes unexpected ways was so cool and satisfying. also side note, but the way the diff character plotlines start to interconnect was mind blowing, and from what i remember i think it still holds up bc it was genuinely so satisfying as well seeing it all come together. don't get me wrong, it has problems for sure, but the story could still be enjoyable for what it is)

  • @owenklus8216
    @owenklus82168 күн бұрын

    I GASPED WHEN I SAW THE VIDEO TITLE!!! YES!!! I LOVED THAT SERIES

  • @gwendolynrobinson3900
    @gwendolynrobinson39007 күн бұрын

    Wouldnt be mad if you went back and also covered Fairest and Stars Above 👀❤️ The way this series had a CHOKEHOLD on me in middle school, i think i started reading RIGHT when Cress came out so i remember the anticipation waiting for Winter, Fairest, and Stars Above to come out. I have the whole series, except for SA which I think I lost 😭 I'm so glad we can talk about these nostalgic series both critically and lovingly ❤

  • @soappsoappp
    @soappsoappp8 күн бұрын

    oh this was the series that got me into my middle school reading addiction im so exited,,,,,,, its been like 7 year oh shit

  • @mckenna_L_
    @mckenna_L_8 күн бұрын

    You’re with me while I’m at work so thank you for helping me ignore my coworkers

  • @jitterbugg2

    @jitterbugg2

    7 күн бұрын

    pls i’m doing the same

  • @wulvve
    @wulvve7 күн бұрын

    sis the ghost in your wall might be a squirrel

  • @tpanakota
    @tpanakota8 күн бұрын

    ANOTHER POST ANOTHER SLAY

  • @WonderRed2003
    @WonderRed20038 күн бұрын

    THE QUEEN HAS RETURNED

  • @edenhines
    @edenhines20 сағат бұрын

    THE WAY YOU’RE ABLE TO DELIVER THE PLOT TWISTS SOOO WELL BY JUST TALKING 😭😭😭 I literally gasped so loud and screwed up my eyeliner

  • @FightingMarsh
    @FightingMarsh8 күн бұрын

    Im so excited for another chronicles video!! I watch your twilight and 50 shades videos so often I can quote them word for word lmao. Wonderful job as always 💕💕

  • @chuucake
    @chuucake8 күн бұрын

    i used to read this series when i was in 7th grade ♡

  • @manicpixie7024
    @manicpixie70247 күн бұрын

    FUCK YEAH also I remember reading the Scarlett book and being SOOOOOO upset about the omega beta alpha wrong information I kept whitening those words and replacing them with different ones . . THESE BOOKS ARE MEANT TO BE IN THE FUTURE AND THE AUTHOR COULDN'T EVEN MAKE AURE TO FACT CHECK THE WILDLY DISPROVEN (BY ITS OWN CREATOR) WOLF INFORMATION AAAAAA (I go into super sayan mode out of rage) anyways now I'll watch the video just had to say my piece

  • @kobxnei7146
    @kobxnei71468 күн бұрын

    STOP THE QUEEN IS BACK

  • @wolfgirl535
    @wolfgirl5352 күн бұрын

    Seems like it would've made more sense to have Winter be princess Selene. Within the logic of the story, sure, Winter hasn't been taught how to rule, but neither had Cinder, and Winter at least has lived there her whole life. Theoretically she'd understand the needs of the people better. While Cinder could've also been a lunar princess, by left the moon to rule beside Kai. It just feels like Winter has very little agency or stakes in the story beyond "I don't want to die." At the end, it sounds like she'll end up in exactly the same place she was previously, so not much has changed for her. Beyond having a boyfriend, I suppose.

  • @chloekm7958
    @chloekm79588 күн бұрын

    Just what I needed on a day like today. Chilly, grey, wet. Perfect timing.

  • @haymaker-mva
    @haymaker-mvaКүн бұрын

    i was obsessed with these books in elementary 😭😭 i’ve continued to keep up with marissa meyer honestly and i still like her recent stuff. crazy to refresh this series though and realize its flaws that completely missed me when i was younger

  • @uuuhhhhzzz
    @uuuhhhhzzz8 күн бұрын

    NOOOO WHAT DO YOU MEAN SHITTY BOOK CLUB 😭😭😭😭

  • @user-ui9op5vo3i
    @user-ui9op5vo3i8 күн бұрын

    YESSS. Bro this day has been sooooo boring 😭 I’ve needed a video to put on in the background to finish a painting. 🧎‍♀️‍➡️🧎‍♀️‍➡️🧎‍♀️‍➡️

  • @ashleycrockett3908
    @ashleycrockett39088 күн бұрын

    I’ve been waiting for someone to make this video 🙏thank you 😭

  • @dewdot
    @dewdot7 күн бұрын

    God this series had a chokehold on me in highschool !! I loved it soooo much I reread it like 5 times, even bought the spin off comics on iko lmao it has a special place in my heart lol I'm sooo glad you decided to cover ittt 💖

  • @missamvmaker
    @missamvmaker8 күн бұрын

    I loved this book series omg

  • @missamvmaker

    @missamvmaker

    8 күн бұрын

    watching now - oh my god holy racism in the country/world building omg!

  • @Cosmicbookworm
    @Cosmicbookworm2 күн бұрын

    I know it was like not a good time, but I just remember SCREAMING when Thorne finally kissed Cress in Winter… l was WAITING for that

  • @Izzy_Ferrari123
    @Izzy_Ferrari1237 күн бұрын

    My jaw dropped when I saw you posted. Thank you so much!

  • @eviewright5743
    @eviewright57433 күн бұрын

    things i need to share with the people (as someone who had a hyperfixation on this series in middle school) : 1. the book on queen levana is FUCKED UP. she had this whole like weirdly non-consensual thing with winter's dad. she also fell in love with a palace guard (just like winter). oh and the reason winter stopped using her powers is also rlly dark. like 10 year old me was not prepared. 2. the fanart for this series in the old days was. so. weird. like looking back on it now especially the wolf stuff must have been taken over by a few very talented furries because... phew. and honestly the rest of the fanart (the non werewolf fanfiction fanart) was suuuuper white-washed. 3. the epilogue book with a bunch of silly little tales (which i believe started as a BLOG post, get that bag miss melissa) ends with wolf and scarlet getting married. and scarlet's "something blue" is an embroidered, cursive "alpha" on her wedding dress.

  • @ainsleesbookclub

    @ainsleesbookclub

    3 күн бұрын

    embroidered “alpha” is CRAZY oh my god

  • @ampix4669

    @ampix4669

    3 күн бұрын

    Oh my god the embroidered alpha is killing me (also the whole of Levana's book was waaay too dark compared to the rest of the series, like the many ways Levana abuses her step family is crazy, I did not remeber it being that dark)

  • @hey8520
    @hey85202 күн бұрын

    used to go ham for this series omg IM SO GLAD UR COVERING IT 😭❤️

  • @Crazymelon207
    @Crazymelon2076 күн бұрын

    I read the first book as soon as it came out and was *dying* to continue but ended up forgetting before the next book was released... you have helped me realized I missed absolutely nothing 🥰

  • @thethriftyfawn
    @thethriftyfawn8 күн бұрын

    Oh my goodness, this was EPIIIIIIIC to listen to while doing a tedious and long house painting task on a hot day... THANK YOU! 😄

  • @v-t-holmes
    @v-t-holmes6 күн бұрын

    i read this book series during the height of the pandemic for the first time, imagine my reaction when the plague got brought up for the first time and then my reaction to how it kept being brought up genuinely one of my favourite takes on fairy tale retellings, it's so cool to me to see a sci-fi one when most of the stuff tends to be modern-day america leaning even if not without fault i do like that meyer went out of her way to make the protags and their love interests come from several different places, instead of making them all be from the usa

  • @gracesull78756

    @gracesull78756

    2 күн бұрын

    oop definitely an interesting time to read it seriously as a lowkey retellings hater, i loved this one even more for those elements. it felt so fresh being sci-fi, esp when it came out in like peak YA dystopian era, and so many retellings were of the generic fantasy variety (nothing wrong w that though they just weren't my taste and were hard to distinguish). also while it clearly had flaws and it doesn't excuse those, yeah same, it stood out to me even when younger how among so many white protagonists and america-centered stories that this had other nationalities and ethnicities

  • @LegendWings
    @LegendWings7 күн бұрын

    Read these in late high school/early college and I revisit them on audio book at least once a year - they're my chicken noodle soup books, and I'll always have a soft spot for them 🥰

  • @wolflover306
    @wolflover3068 күн бұрын

    Gonna listen to this while I build my silly house in Sims 4

  • @erinm8085
    @erinm80857 күн бұрын

    Oh my god I had no idea how much I needed this until I saw this on my feed! Thank you!! So excited!!

  • @Mina-us8jo
    @Mina-us8jo5 күн бұрын

    I wish you had a podcast, I love your videos

  • @urfavvv
    @urfavvv8 күн бұрын

    I missed you. I'm about to start knitting with your necessary recap playing 😌❤️

  • @hrmnzdmatryoshka
    @hrmnzdmatryoshka7 күн бұрын

    Bestie i binged your videos yesterday i cannot expess how excited i am to see this

  • @elysiatan
    @elysiatan8 күн бұрын

    OMG just days after I discovered your channel!! This is fate honestly. Probably the same few book series had a chokehold on all of us

  • @Chickpea_Pancake
    @Chickpea_Pancake8 күн бұрын

    QUEEN HAS POSTED