They never tell their kids in school what they did to their colonies...

@seiwarriors

3 жыл бұрын

@cevom Mate we do learn about our bad history, what are you talking about?

@narvaromer8516

3 жыл бұрын

British also don't learn British war crimes during WW2, Iraq and Afghanistan. They glorify war criminal Churchill as hero.

@seiwarriors

3 жыл бұрын

@@narvaromer8516 Well he was a hero and a scumbag. Same as Stalin and Lenin as well as Mao and many other leaders. What's your point?

@brienfoaboutanything9037

2 жыл бұрын

Wikipedia about University of Oxford: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dYtrxsegmtS7lMY.html

@thegeniusofthecrowd354

Жыл бұрын

You vermin will all be driven into the sea.

As someone who has always dreamed of studying in Oxford, I am so grateful for this!

@Rowlph8888

Жыл бұрын

Don't let her misrepresentations sway you.Every great institution has a dark history, that is and Was the Natural Way of Things.If You Want to Change That, You Can Do It in Your Life, After Graduating

@UPAKHOSALA

Жыл бұрын

@@Rowlph8888 truth is bitter for Nation of shopkeeper.

@Rowlph8888

Жыл бұрын

@@UPAKHOSALA If this is the truth to you, then you are a complete charllatan, Just like this Woman distortting the truth in these videos

@jimthompson9370

Жыл бұрын

@@UPAKHOSALA - don’t hate. It will eat you.

Britain participated in the slave trade, it also banned it and enforced that ban throughout the empire. Other western countries quickly followed our example. History is murky. It is not always black and white.

The whole history all over the world is full of unfortunate facts, even the present day is full of unfortunate facts and future will be full of it too!

@burritodorito3176

3 жыл бұрын

they trynna remove history cus they dont like the truth and want to ignore real shit

@larsstougaard7097

3 жыл бұрын

True you can pick any country or leader in the world and discover horrible fact. Its like the West is the only monster here. Dive into the arab slave trade its estimated that 14 million Africans were made slaves and many men was castrated. That insane, you never hear ANY criticism ( from the left) or we want retribution. I read an article about Tibetan society 100 years ago it was brutal, no love & light, we never kill a living being. And take Gandhi, look into his life, you will find things there that shocks you. The list goes on and on, because its just history of humanity, sex, money and power. No one is pure and innocent. So don't blame or erase history, learn from it and become better. Be the change you wanna see in the world.

@zion3335

3 жыл бұрын

@@larsstougaard7097 absoultely true.....the slave markets of Damascus funnelled millions and millions into slavery...we won't hear about that of course....heck millions of people who perished in gulags in the 20th century.....its slavery when it suits the left's agenda....

@zion3335

3 жыл бұрын

@@VentureHolly yes i agree....but the problem is when its selective history which plays to a narrative....twisting facts, showing half truths and avoiding whole sections to make a particular community or race to appear bad....

@zion3335

3 жыл бұрын

@@VentureHolly let me tell you do you know who sold the black slaves to the European traders, what is the barbary slave trade, only a very small portion of whites owned slaves....the vast majority of people were impoverished....while Britons land-owning nobles grew rich from colonialism....children of poor British workers lived in poverty and worked in factories....these same landlords and rich nobles in colonial countries, the kings and serfs...they sold their own people to slavery and themselves grew rich.....so just because someone's skin colour is white doesnot mean their ancestors were slaveowners and just because someone's skin colour is dark doesn't mean they were enslaved

The unpleasant thing is that this is true almost everywhere in the world, for example Colosseum in Rome. I personally think that the best thing to do, instead of tearing down this stautes in the universities is fighting for social justice, like granting public education and health to disadvantaged children

@anonymouse527

3 жыл бұрын

Nope. It's much easier to fight statues and stones.

@NotAnotherKuromi

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, they should focus on helping those who are suffering now & preventing it from occouring. It seems like they'd rather wait 100 years & then complain about the atrocities committed in this day & age.

@alessandro.calzavara

3 жыл бұрын

@damien chall I don't think (and I do hope so) that Vice doesn't care about them. It Is more likely that it is a news that does not sell

@tomcruze8153

3 жыл бұрын

@damien chall racist

@MrCrosby.s_lunch

3 жыл бұрын

@@alessandro.calzavara vice does not care about anything, they are there just to chat shit and make profit

Expecting a lot more episodes like this from VICE. They don't teach this aspect of history in school.

@jimthompson9370

3 жыл бұрын

Teaching intersectionality, self loathing and critical race theory? I should hope not.

@UPAKHOSALA

Жыл бұрын

@@jimthompson9370 why truth has to be so complicated that u need to go thru the veneer of words and phrases like urs

@jimthompson9370

Жыл бұрын

@@UPAKHOSALA - because this is a manipulated truth by the openly biased ‘news source’ Vice News. You sound like the sort of western-hating pawn this channel feeds.

I think context matters. For example in Bristol taking the statue down was appropriate because it was placed in such a way the it was like the whole city approved of and loved him and it wasn’t true any more. Whereas with the Rhodes one his scholarship still exists. In that case personally I think it’s more appropriate to have plaques explaining what he did in plain view. To take the staue down would be, I think, to pretend that the college wasn’t associated with him. Which is more insulting in my opinion.

@s8nsbanana

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree. Taking down statues is like erasing and forgetting history. It would be better to put up plaques explaining what these people did and how they got there wealth.

@sbose64

2 жыл бұрын

a credible suggestion.

I mean, about every rich person in those times was connected to slavery in some way or another; what did you expect?

@funDAYsmiling

3 жыл бұрын

EVERY civilization has a history of “slavery!” In the Arab world, they still regularly enslave their domestic workers by confiscating the passports of their mostly “imported” help. Oh WAIT, American imported its slaves TOO. Nobody can criticize the precious Muslims though.

@mutelarsorhougbe4606

7 ай бұрын

@@funDAYsmilingif you think this is a valid argument to excuse this abominable behaviour that is STILL affecting a contient and it’s diaspora- I know not WHAT to say to you!

A non-British European student at Lancaster University has reportedly suffered discrimination this year due to his greater concerns about the virus. Reportedly, this discrimination was first exercised by other students and then exacerbated by the university staff who reviewed the case. Against xenophobia: monitor, report, share. Never permit it.

If a black student finds it offensive seeing a statue iconic of racism in Oxford, why doesn't he/she switch to a Nigeria university immediately and pay the £9000 fee to the African prestigious university which badly needs funding instead of continuously financing a racist one? From an ethnic Asian

@solefreakks7905

2 жыл бұрын

Racist to assume all black people are black; as an ethic person yourself, what an absolute discrace you are.

We need an episode about the Russian empire and how they expanded by killing natives

@zaidzarani5643

3 жыл бұрын

So Russian is not native in Russia country?

@takashi2843

2 жыл бұрын

@@zaidzarani5643 Siberia

Isn´t this the same video as The Unfortunate Truth About Oxford University | Empires of Dirt?

@leanderbarreto6523

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@MrCrosby.s_lunch

3 жыл бұрын

It is

Zing is a journalist who tells the truth the way it should be told! An accurate series on capturing Britain's colonial ways and how it's detrimentally affected people of colour globally.

@jimthompson9370

Жыл бұрын

No it wasn’t. Objectively, it wasn’t. It was biased, emotive and manipulative. She’s not a journalist , she’s an activist.

They also change the goal posts, borrow the money to pay for the high prices. There will be no interest on payments !! Untill a year or so later when they said you now have to pay it. Listening g to this makes me sick. Terrible.

I am not English. I have never lived in the UK. My home land has never been invaded by the British. Hence, I have no axe to grind against the British. Still, I always find it strange that if one is to read any history book about England written by an English historian, one would always find the English catergorize the arrival of the Normans on the shore of England in 1066 as the Norman invasion. However, I have yet to come across a history book about England written by an English historian who would categorize the arrival of the English on the shores of Canada, the USA, Australia, New Zealand as the English invasion of Canada, Australia, New Zealand and so on despite native resistance against the British newcomers and the many massacres of the natives by British newcomers. Instead, the arrival of the English to these lands was always categorized as British settlement in Canada, British settlement in Australia, and so on.

great history lesson, thank you

@jimthompson9370

Жыл бұрын

No it wasn’t. Objectively, it wasn’t. It was biased, emotive and manipulative. That’s not an historian, it’s an activist.

I mean a lot of European countries are thriving off of what they stole from the colonies for centuries while the colonies are now poor and are "third world countries". The British Empire has terrorised about one third of the entire globe but they get away with it and have never apologised for it so far. They should seriously return all the stolen artifacts and should pay a compensation for all the harm they've done to countries.

@xant27

3 жыл бұрын

Britain has given said countries vast amounts of money in aid. Not to mention how multi cultural Britain has become.

@saifalik6226

4 ай бұрын

@@xant27if you colonise countries then you must pay

After all we all have to Admit that thats a Bussines. Education is Bus

I never knew where the money for rhodes scholarship came from before I saw this video

Great revelation by Vice! Thanks.

Keep telling it like it is!!!

Loved that ending sentence! ‘They don’t put THAT but in the prospectus👀, but it’s the truth!’

Can you please do this in North America?

I think that the OP should start the protest herself. I will take this seriously if she rips up her Cambridge degree as it is tainted by the University's past. Of course she will never do this as she's all about scolding others.

@solefreakks7905

2 жыл бұрын

But nowhere in this video did she stop anyone from applying/attending oxbridge, the content of the video is fact whether you like it or not, her job is to be the mediator & provide viewed with the facts

@Alan_Mac

2 жыл бұрын

@@solefreakks7905 Well it's not fact. She/her family paid tuition costs of £9,000 per annum to attend the best Uni in the world. The rest of her tuition was subsidies by the British taxpayer.

@lblackwood95

2 жыл бұрын

She is not scolding others, she is just telling the truth and I believe you and others that believe that she is, are just butt hurt on how the universities and white supremacist gained wealth from slavery and white supremacy.

@Alan_Mac

2 жыл бұрын

@@lblackwood95 I am not in the least bit 'butt hurt' about anything. The British Empire was a remarkable achievement with enduring value. That wealthy men went on to endow a Uni such as Oxford - probably the best in the world - is to be welcomed and is very much an 'Empire Dividend'. The presenter is one of the ones who benefited from our top-class universities and had her education subsidised by British taxpayers such as me. If she had the power of her convictions she'd either hand her degree back or pay the full, unsubsidized cost of her education rather than displaying crass hypocrisy.

@lblackwood95

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alan_Mac Those wealthy men benefited hundreds or thousands, if not, millions of dollars from colonialism, white supremacy, and slavery; with the millions that they placed in those universities and themselves. Also, if what she saying isn't true, then why were there students or people of the public protesting to have the statues of the racist rich figures who owned slaves to be taken down from the universities that were funded by slavery?🤔

Good job by Vice

Thats why I never applied😉😉😉.

If I see her in London she won't be making another doco

Preach. #facts

I think statues are not whats wrong with our society and the issues of the past. I think what we need to do is properly educate today's kids about slavery and colonisation and apart from talking about what good the big powerful men did also talk about the faults too. We do have to remember that we cannot change or erase our past, unfortunately these things happened and its best for us to acknowledge them and learn from it. Instead of taking the statues down, why don't we add more statues of people of colour and different ethnicity that brought good to our society.

@ericluk68

3 жыл бұрын

If a black student feel offensive on seeing a statue of figure who accepting racism in Oxford, why doesn't he/she switch to a Nigeria university immediately and pay the £9000 fee to the African prestigious university which badly needs funding instead of continuously financing a racist one? From an ethnic Asian.

@hustler212

Жыл бұрын

@@ericluk68 So you're basically saying is to Go back where one comes from? It is??

@ericluk68

Жыл бұрын

@@hustler212 not go back! but what you act should be honest to what you speak. If those "racist" university is that bad as you claim, why all these 3rd countries students vote for them with their legs.

@hustler212

Жыл бұрын

@@ericluk68 by asking the people to not visit any premises just because the premise owner happen to stand racist statues would only lead to more segregated society, And I am pretty sure, nobody wants apartheid. And also, any decent person (irrespective of race) would be smart enough to understand that uplifting racist ideologies is not going to benefit the university as well...

@ericluk68

Жыл бұрын

@@hustler212 to use today's values to condemn an individual of a times that occurred hundreds years ago is as dogmatic and discriminatory as racism.

shall we educate the world so they can blame us for all human history ?

@hustler212

Жыл бұрын

things are being said as they are... nothing exaggerated here.

Fucking Money can make your name a memorabilia.

Why does the BBC not have a contestant on it about The Empire. The Opium War against China. Famine in India is new to me due to U Tube. All western European nations committed crimes in Africa . Asia . East Timor. Sad for poor minorities.

Better save that money to buy a house or save up for old age!

Wow

@Rethsunkiu

3 жыл бұрын

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0:12 Not exactly. They are nonprofits for the most part, but they need funding, so sometimes they will try and appease their overwhelmingly wealthy, mostly conservative donors...

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What is the big deal these people are all dead and gone

cool

statues are like trophies, we should give them to winners, not sinners.

@SmallDrives

3 жыл бұрын

Winners are sinners! No sinless person beside Jesus ever walked on this earth!

@MrRishik123

3 жыл бұрын

@@SmallDrives aint talking about "sins" like sex before marriage mate. Talking about slavery, murder, torture, etc....

Oxford and Cambridge!

@johnsanjuan9364

3 жыл бұрын

Cassius College!

00:06

If the public is going to have a discussion about the slave trade, let's have a discussion. Were British citizens involved? Yes. If the government thinks that means statutes and other honors given these individuals should be taken away so be it. However, many others not from the UK were also involved in slavery so let's follow suit and also take away their honors. For instance Islam and its prophet Mohammad were involved in slavery. Islam was involved in slavery for over 1,000 years as it spread over the Middle East, Africa, Asia and Europe. Millions of people were killed and enslaved during the spread of Islam. Should the UK government therefore order the removal of anything associated with Islam? Should mosques be ordered shut? Should burqas and other Islamic coverings be banned because of their association with Islam? Should halal products be removed from stores? Should the UK stop trading with Muslim majority countries? Should the UK government stop sending all foreign aid to Muslim majority countries? Should the UK government stop immigration from Muslim majority countries?

@rainbowisticfarts

3 жыл бұрын

What? Islam was involved with slavery, that is true, but Islam does not ENCOURAGE slavery. Slavery will exist as long as humans do, Infact, treating a slave badly is a extremely huge sin, and the only compensation for that is freeing them. Infact it's written that the class of the slave and the owner should be the same. the same clothes, food and amount of work.

@jackbrown8052

3 жыл бұрын

@@rainbowisticfarts The prophet Mohammad kept slaves. He kept female sex slaves. If the the prophet Mohammad, the perfect man, kept slaves and gave slaves to his followers that's encouraging slavery.

Vice Asia forgot about Wiston Churchil .

just get a 50bmg incindieary tracer and shoot the statue from 1000 yards away the bullet will explode on hitting no students will be harmed statue will be destroyed....:D just a theory i read too much manga i suppose

@domdumdum5081

3 жыл бұрын

I would have thought that even Manga was a little out of your intellectual league.

Big facts

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3 жыл бұрын

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Critical theory is cancerous. Also, it's boring.

Really biased

People are starting to wake up

Biased

Reality check. Thank you.

HELP

World history made in many writer author in the world,, then and now Vs Jesuchrist who the author of the Bible who dosnt ever,, never took any prestigious school ,,but the Bible were telling us of what happened in the future,, end of the world and before thou art and heaven in genises,,humans knowledge power,,derived from collection of knowledge ,,Vs the ' wisdom of God ' who came out Jesuschrist mouth,, to write down in the book,, bible,, is the authentic manual book of instruction ' of God to humanity,, how to live,, accoradance in God's law,, how to get wife and husband,, how to make friends,, how to put business,, how to avoid don't and do,, etc. And how to have an everlasting life,,, in heaven

Boo hoo, cry me a river

Rhodes is dead and his money educates people of all races. Get over your pettyness. GROW UP!

I’m gay

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3 жыл бұрын

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@NotAnotherKuromi

3 жыл бұрын

Ok... So what? I like your puppy pic though.

Don't judge history with moral standards of the present.

@paoloagyei4906

3 жыл бұрын

Where did you hear that?

@hughmongous663

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

Those Africans were already “enslaved,” before the British bought them off of whichever tribal chieftain was taking slaves that week, so it’s inaccurate and outright incorrect of you to state that these long-dead men actually did the enslaving! How sloppy

So what? It was in the past! Learn from it and move on. Vice is getting boring.

@JordanTelezino

3 жыл бұрын

the point is that we shouldn't be celebrating these people and giving them any sort of praise as the result of there success is because of the suffering of others. Instead we are asking that we leave them behind in the past

@hughmongous663

3 жыл бұрын

@@JordanTelezino nobody cares anyway. It's history bro. You can't erase it.

This lady looks more like a domestic helper

@NotAnotherKuromi

3 жыл бұрын

Ironically when discussing abuse domestic helpers are not usually covered. I'm hoping Vice will get around to covering it eventually...

I don't like the anchor and her mouthful accent... She needs braces...

@xant27

3 жыл бұрын

Malicious person. Don't know what her problem is considering she is enjoying life in the very same country she's spouting hate about.

@dellabella3644

3 жыл бұрын

childish

@dellabella3644

3 жыл бұрын

@@xant27 you can love your country and still critique it.

@xant27

3 жыл бұрын

@@dellabella3644 True. Just seems a bit much.

@dellabella3644

3 жыл бұрын

@@xant27 I get that