Hi David, Just want thank you for your work. Your one of the few Christian thinkers I connect with

I’m so happy to see another DBH video has finally dropped. I say “dropped” but I imagine it ascending from a volcano to a lofty precipice to be protected in perpetuity by golden eagles.

Wonderful interview! Seeing that you are doing interviews again, I would like to have you on my channel for an in depth discussion about the First and Second Origenist controversies and the legacy of universalism that arose out of them.

One of my favorite interviews. Thank you DBH!

Incredible interview. When it comes to modern Christian thinking, obviously we cannot (and maybe should not) entirely resurrect the antique paradigm, but what can we do to escape the fundamentalist absurdities of today?

Great interview. I will say every time I read DBH’s books (or listen to an interview) I’m left to wonder how we can use this knowledge to apply it to our daily life. What does it mean to act morally (in religious terms) while living in the US as a middle class family? I also always wonder how parents should introduce their children to the Bible. We homeschool, and our curriculum heavily focuses on introducing children to the OT (and, later on, the NT). Should we be introducing our kids to a confused image of a god of reward and punishment that, later on in the NT, is portrayed as goodness itself? If anyone has any resources on this, please let me know! I’m a very confused parent.

@meatisburg3r

4 ай бұрын

I’m not sure DBH would agree with my but the Bible Project and the Read Scripture app, which uses Bible Project content, does a pretty good job at tying the theology of the old and New Testaments together. They don’t take a pure historical critical method but when family members ask how to approach the Bible I feel safe that these resources won’t steer them off course into weirdo theological land. Definitely still very Protestant, but seems to be thoughtfully engaging the Bible as a literary work, explaining themes, typology, etc. Its also two Christian guys that seem to have a heart for the poor and the oppressed and love for Jesus. Very safe for the whole family even offering trigger warnings before chapters that discus things that might be difficult for younger kids. Hope this helps

many thanks for all of these

I love continental philosophy DBH but I REALLY love Christian theologian and translator DBH!

Great Interview! I don't know if you're still responding to comments, but if yes I would like to ask you what you think of Bart Ehrmans work

@leavesinthewind7441

4 ай бұрын

Mediocre.

Just a quick question does Aristotle not use the term παρα φυσιν to talk about how some argued against slavery (book 1 politics)Would that be a case when it would be correct to translate as ‘contrary to nature’

@leavesinthewind7441

4 ай бұрын

No, I would not, and for the same reason. “Contrary to nature” sounds in our ears like the culpable violation of some grand principle called nature. But Aristotle there is responding to the claim that slavery and mastery are arbitrary, because our different “natures” (that is, where we come from or who we are or what kind of persons we are) are matters of sheer chance. His reply, which obviously does nothing to answer the question, is that some persons are, by virtue of what they are or where they come from, appropriately someone’s property, and it would be para physin-outside their place and basic sort-to be free. Again, not “contrary to NATURE” but rather “beyond what is suitable or natural” for them, being who and what they are. Incidentally, that’s what the term supernaturalis meant when Philip the Chancellor introduced the term. Anyway, again, the grace-nature antithesis read into Paul by later tradition is an inflation of a far simpler claim.

@masonbradford7026

4 ай бұрын

@@leavesinthewind7441 thank you for this response David. Really helpful! 😁

Brilliant conversation, Dr. Hart! A quick question: do you have any interest in writing about justification in the New Testament or have already done so in the past?

@leavesinthewind7441

4 ай бұрын

Not really. I think it's fairly well covered in the critical apparatus of my New Testament translation, especially the 2nd edition.

@Polumetis

4 ай бұрын

@@leavesinthewind7441 Thank you for the answer. I have another question for you if you don't mind. Are you familiar with Teresa Morgan's book "Roman Faith and Christian Faith" and, if you are, would you recommend it?

@leavesinthewind7441

4 ай бұрын

I’m not familiar with it.

Hey David, thank you for this insightful video and greetings from Germany. I want to ask you what you think of the German Idealist philosopher Vittorio Hösle?

@leavesinthewind7441

4 ай бұрын

I hold him in very high esteem. I should note that he’s also a friend of mine.

@bambusleitung123

4 ай бұрын

@@leavesinthewind7441 Thank you for the answer. It makes me happy hearing that, being an admirer of both your works :)

@bambusleitung123

4 ай бұрын

@@leavesinthewind7441 Oh, i forgot to ask: Would it be likely for you both to do a talk on this channel? I think it would be very enriching to listen to

Any recommendations for German translations of the NT already in print?

@leavesinthewind7441

4 ай бұрын

I can’t say I’ve ever read any German version other than Luther’s.

@michelfingado202

4 ай бұрын

@@leavesinthewind7441 thanks.

@michelfingado202

4 ай бұрын

@@leavesinthewind7441 thanks. Not that it matters, but which one: 1545 or 1912?

@leavesinthewind7441

4 ай бұрын

@@michelfingado202The original, of course. I didn’t even know there was a 1912 revision. Did Luther’s ghost supervise it?

@michelfingado202

4 ай бұрын

@@leavesinthewind7441 i assumed you probably read the original, but wanted to make sure, for assuming isn't what one should do (making an ass out of me and you) ... Yes, it's been revised several times for the usual reasons... Modernisation, clarification, monetization... Thanks for taking the time

Great listen! What's the tradition book they're talking about?

@travisa2455

Ай бұрын

Tradition and Apocalypse by David Bentley Hart

@unkitwater

Ай бұрын

@@travisa2455 thanks!

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"But if certain powers come to men although they are not sent by the Father, you should consider also if there are some among them which have come out from the Father and their sinfulness lies precisely in the fact that they have not been sent by Him." -Origen, Commentary on John

@leavesinthewind7441

4 ай бұрын

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@OrigenisAdamantios

4 ай бұрын

@@leavesinthewind7441 Could you please elaborate? Thank you

@leavesinthewind7441

4 ай бұрын

@@OrigenisAdamantiosI was wondering why you chose that quotation. I thought I might be missing the point.

@OrigenisAdamantios

4 ай бұрын

@@leavesinthewind7441 you were discussing the evil one… could you please elaborate on what Origen meant?

@leavesinthewind7441

4 ай бұрын

@@OrigenisAdamantiosNo. I am not even sure the quotation is quite correct.

David, what draws you to Christianity, specifically Orthodox Christianity, over Hinduism or any of the other Eastern religions? And out of the various Christian denominations why Eastern Orthodoxy? It seems like you would be more at home with the Episcopal Church rather than the Orthodox Church, which is very anti-ecumenist and conservative. Contrast Orthodoxy with Episcopalianism it seems like Episcopalianism allows for more leeway when it comes to accepting things like ecumenism, syncretism, and more theologically progressive ideas.

@leavesinthewind7441

4 ай бұрын

You are assuming many things there that aren’t quite correct. I don’t believe in religions as such, but only in religion. I don’t think of Christianity and Hinduism as two closed propositional systems in rivalry with one another.

@davidshoesmith3780

4 ай бұрын

@@leavesinthewind7441 So basically you see Christianity and polytheism as equally valid paths to the divine? This is what I’m getting at. Throughout Church History and even in the modern Orthodox Church most Orthodox Christians have believed and still believe that Christianity, specifically Orthodox Christianity, is the only valid way to God. Otherwise, if other religions are indeed valid ways to the divine, why did all those martyrs give their lives rather than sacrifice to Zeus and the other pagan deities, which they called demons? Why didn’t they just sacrifice to those deities if all religions are paths to the divine? From my understanding, they gave themselves up to martyrdom because they drew the line between false religion and correct religion, and that correct religion was Christianity. It’s just strange that you are labeled as an Eastern Orthodox theologian, but yet you believe in syncretism when the Orthodox Church is profoundly exclusive in its claims. It claims to be the one true Church. The figurative Noah’s Ark, outside which there is no salvation. So it’s strange that you practice Eastern Orthodoxy when you would fit in so much better with the Anglicans who have a much more liberal and inclusive world view and approach. Just my two cents.

@travisa2455

4 ай бұрын

@@davidshoesmith3780 I can't speak for Hart, of course, but just because one doesn't see "religions" as discrete entities with impermeable boundaries does not mean that one thinks every configuration of religious belief and practice is interchangeable and equally good or valid. Hart's interest in "Hinduism" seems to be primarily focused on Vedanta, which is for the most part philosophically monistic even as it allows for multiple "lords" or ishvara; not altogether unlike the distinction between God and the angels in the Abrahamic religions, or indeed that between God and Christ in pre-Nicene Christianity. But neither can any claim to universal spiritual truth be bottled up in some narrowly-conceived, exclusivist sect. If Christianity, or any other belief system, can truly make such a claim, then it must to some degree validate what is true and edifying in other traditions. If Christ is the truth, then anyone who seeks the truth is seeking Christ, whether they know it or not. Many Orthodox thinkers have acknowledged this over the centuries, including ones from quite early in Church history (Justin Martyr comes immediately to mind); but I don't think Hart is willing to completely submit himself to any body of ecclesial authority, for reasons he describes in this video and in other places.

@leavesinthewind7441

4 ай бұрын

@@davidshoesmith3780Polytheism? I see you know little about Hinduism. Of course, there is no single religion called Hinduism. Anyway, your question is unrelated to what I actually said. Oh, and I don’t call myself a theologian of any kind.

@leavesinthewind7441

4 ай бұрын

@@travisa2455Exactly. How very well said.