“Straight outta hell” *YEET* 😂😂😂 I can’t 😭

@ManlyServant

2 жыл бұрын

lol!!!!

“He would probably throw the Greek across the room too” hahahaha! I lost it! Man, it would be even funnier if it wasn’t so sad and true

Ignorance gone to seed..as my grandma used to say. My pastor said once.. We were saved, We are being saved, We will be saved (If you're born again)

@86lanzo

4 жыл бұрын

makes perfect sense

@stephenkeown3707

Ай бұрын

Yes. Justification, Sanctification, and Glorification.

When I was a new believer I was a member of a IFB, KJV only church and had witnessed stuff like this happen multiple times. I am so thankful that the Lord brought me out of that. The Lord led me to a good reformed church and I have been in that tradition ever since.

@snackpup

Жыл бұрын

When I was first saved i was part of a reformed church. They told me I had to perseverance of the saints. Turns out, I can't stop sinning no matter what I do. So that drove me crazy. Especially when people in my church said they never intentionally sin. Man I was outta luck. But then I learned that Jesus actually paid for all my sins 100% and that I could never lose salvation because I was sealed by the Holy Ghost. So now I rest easy. Sin can't condemn me to hell no more. Sin can only destroy my flesh.

@KnightFel

Жыл бұрын

@@snackpupyeah you have no idea what you’re talking about. Why do IFB folks not understand it’s God who perseveres you and not yourself? It’s like you ignore 99.99% of scripture. Ironically you IFB KJVonlyists are highly legalistic. You literally don’t understand reformed theology. You aren’t going to heaven if you reject Jesus even after you claim to believe. Read your Bible my guy.

@mkshffr4936

3 ай бұрын

@@snackpup That was not an accurate description of the Reformed concept of the perseverance of the saints. The saints persevere by the same power of God which regenerated them in the first place. That is to say both are a sovereign work of God. For that reason I use the term preservation of the saints. "He who began a good work in you..."

@snackpup

3 ай бұрын

@@mkshffr4936 if you dont have those works then you arent werent never were saved. now is that trusting in the blood of Jesus his finished work on the cross or trusting in yourself !!!

@snackpup

3 ай бұрын

@@mkshffr4936 if you need those works to be save you need works or else you werent ever saved. is that faith in the finished work on the cross or is that faith in yourself?

I guess if he had more than an 8th grade education he would know that “being” in that context means the same as “are”??? But ignorance tends to show itself so just let them talk, lol!

@ritadyer9295

27 күн бұрын

It’s like the verse in Timothy that says study to show thy self approved. Study is translated something else in other translations but in my mind’s understanding, it means the exact same thing.

I don’t understand how people who confess to be Christian can have such a disrespect for God’s word.

@Brad-cs9jy

4 жыл бұрын

So I looked into it when I heard about these KJV only congregations. A lot of these new translations have verses that have been omitted from the actual text and been put down in footnotes rather than included in the main body. Another big verse for them is Isaiah 7:14 and the prophecy of the virgin birth. In my NRSV it is renders virgin, as young woman. So they think it challenges the idea of the virgin birth. I personally think young women back then probably honored their virginity much more so than in today’s society so when they used the term young woman it was understood that she was a virgin. Anyway, they literally do not see these translations as valid and actually view them as heresy; so chunking one of those Bibles across the room doesn’t affect them because they think it’s of the devil.

@shnobo9471

4 жыл бұрын

Brad it is really upsetting though. It is still God’s word

@Brad-cs9jy

4 жыл бұрын

Shnobo I do agree with you 100%. I couldn’t believe it when I saw it.

@timthompson5225

4 жыл бұрын

It’s not God’s word. That is the problem. Things that are different cannot be the same. Look at the manuscript bloodline. Only the KJV 1611 is God’s word for the English speaking world. 2 Corinthians 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

@Brad-cs9jy

4 жыл бұрын

Tim Thompson Funny you mention 1611. Dr. White mentions in another video that most KJV versions today are not even 1611, they’re an 18th century revision. He also proves in this very video where the translators got something wrong in the KJV! He shows you! I have nothing against the KJV at all and it’s a beautiful translation, but it’s also not the only valid one.

Ironically, he just got arrested in Florida for domestic abuse.

@ManlyServant

2 жыл бұрын

ahahha

@4emrys

2 жыл бұрын

Source?

@chriscravens8318

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexf.3699 look it up; but you won't..

@user-sl5rk4dm8y

2 жыл бұрын

A argument not domestic abuse. Your a imbecile!

@77-ty7gb

10 ай бұрын

​@@chriscravens8318share the source, but you can't.

"In the middle of the sinners prayer" 😂 how about you show me that verse? Pray this prayer and your good. What about struggling with God? Working out your salvation with fear and trembling?

@SavannahSedai

3 жыл бұрын

Bahahaha glad that quote was less than a minute in. Yes let’s sit down with this dude and find “sinners prayer” in the KJV

@colton7373

2 жыл бұрын

You’re right, there is no specific prayer or formula that gets you saved. Nothing someone does will merit them salvation. But, receiving this salvation from Christ is simple as believing in your heart that Jesus is who He said He is, and that His finished work alone is what saves.

@Bl_Radio

9 ай бұрын

Don't disparage the IFB magic spell!

I pastor an independent Baptist church. I preach out of the kjv. I think its a great translation. But i have dozens of translations in my library for study including my Greek and Hebrew. It amazes me how many pastores are stuck on certain beliefs that are not biblical. I am a student of Christ, always learning. The sinners pray was created by men to promote a carnel answer to a spiritual matter to please the flesh.

@lionelscout

5 күн бұрын

I have been Baptist since God saved me 67 years ago. After marrying my wife 41 years ago we started attending and IFB church for our children's sake. Come to find out, my wife had never been saved though raised in Church of Christ. My wife and both our daughters were saved as well. The pastor was a very strong Christian, pastor, and preacher. He was borderline KJV only, dispensational, and not Calvinistic. It was very good church that got destroyed by self-centered deacons. IFB churches seem to vary tremendously, as do SBC and other denominations. There being no Reformed Baptist church anywhere near me, my wife and I are members of an OPC church and confess the London Baptist confession in a WCF church where we are warmly received and welcomed. Christians need to unite around the gospel and not throw the baby out with the bath water e.g. type and form of baptism, church government and bible translations. BTW, I agree with you about the KJV, but it was written about the same time as the LBCF and the WCF and some words had more meanings then. For example: Isaiah 47:5 "I make peace and create evil". Evil back then also meant 'catastrophe'. God did NOT create evil as we think of it today. Forgive my rambling. God bless your ministry.

Dude, I grew up watching guys do this exact thing in an IFB church. 😂 I’m thankful that God brought our family out of that. I’m also thankful for the brothers and sisters that I do have who are still influenced by some IFB legalism. Most of the people in the pews, from my experience, aren’t nearly as zealous as the characters “pastoring” IFB churches.

@ritadyer9295

27 күн бұрын

“Characters”. Lol! Good one.

Speechless...

I'm one of those heathens that use multiple translations. The NKJV is my favorite but I also refer to others such as NASB, ESV, and KJV to name a few. Using the KJV, if you proceed to Phillipians 2:12 "Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling." Why would salvation need "work(ed) out" if it is completed? This is why the minister is upset about the NIV translation. It all goes back to the "once saved always saved" doctrine. Salvation is being saved from something. If we have not entered into the end of the age, and the final judgment, then technically we are not saved yet. Even in this life, while we still live in the mortal, we are not saved but promised salvation through faith. That is why faith remains for the believer. The completeness of salvation for us individually really comes with our last breath. We have been given a deposit (the Holy Spirit) that marks us for salvation. We can call ourselves saved. But at this moment that we exist, in time, we are not saved yet. It only really happens after we leave this mortal tent. I hope my argument for the unsoundness in the NIFB minister's tantrum makes sense. Personally, I believe I am saved -- From future destruction. And the Holy Spirit teaches me how to "work out" my salvation. And He also reminds me to never throw around the Word of God.

@ProclaimeroftheGospelofJesus

3 жыл бұрын

Work out your salvation is to examine that you are in the faith in a ongoing manner. Keep the faith.

@Dilley_G45

Жыл бұрын

What about a version like message or tpt. Is that still the work of God?

blessed by your work and faithfulness towards the interpretation of the word of God. but anyone who can help me what bible app or software Dr White is using here?. would like to have that too for my referrence. thanks 😊

@gavinschaefer2331

2 жыл бұрын

I believe it is blue letter bible

The best part is the giant banner that says “Independent Baptist Church”, and how the camera is set up to make sure we can see it. Because there’s no way we’d know otherwise that this is an Independent Baptist Church. Lol

I find it simple minded to include all ifb, with this man here. Ill prove it to you. For example, we have never seen this done before and i attended a ifb school and church . I go to a ifb church, and not all do this… we believe God, we are saved from past sins, we are being saved while living in the flesh currently, and we will be saved from the presence of sin, with a glorified body. We believe Jesus will continue His work He started with us, unto the day of His return. Sanctification and justification upon salvation by what Jesus did, By Gods grace through our faith, not of works, being set apart in this truth( sanctified) by His Spirit currently, unto His return. We have no issues like he says… We believe we are anointed from the beginning, and this anointing will teach us all things. We believe this to be the HolySpirit that we are sealed with til the day of Redemption. What this preacher is doing does not represent the ifb i attend. We do not believe in a sinners prayer, nor do we ask for salvation. We repent and believe in Jesus to save us from our sins. Then we follow in a believers water baptism In the name of Jesus. This is what we believe. Ephesians 1:13-14 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. God can make a man stand. Only God knows the hearts, and He grants repentance, if we come into the knowledge of truth and put our trust in Jesus to save us. We do not believe in water baptism regeneration. We believe this is a testimony that we are clean, because we believe in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus as the gospel of Jesus that is the power of God unto our salvation. We believe the regeneration in His blood, and the renewal of our mind with His Spirit is the baptism Jesus gives with the Holy Spirit and fire. The fire comes when the purging of faith comes in trials, and we keep the joy of hope in the Lord. The Holy Spirit sheds abroad the love of God in our hearts. We believe this is a sanctification that is ongoing with the Holy Spirit; and fire ,until we come into rest. We believe to enter the kingdom of heaven you must be converted as a child, not coming seeing, but rather asking for sight. A child like faith that works through love. We believe we mature in this as our foundation. We believe you must be reborn according to the will of God to enter the kingdom of heaven, which is to receive Him and believe on His name. We believe we admit sins and are washed in His blood, and strive against sin to enter the kingdom of Heaven. We are not that anymore. Walking in the light as He is in the light, and we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus cleanses from all sin and unrighteousness. We believe He is faithful and just to do so, and the Holy Spirit convicts us to admit our sins. We believe there is a sin unto death. I believe it is false teachers and prophets that knowingly change Gods Word into a lie, and teach others. Workers of iniquity! They come as a angel of light or ministers of righteousness. One is a sensual spirit in love void of the truth, the other comes in truth void of the love of God made known in Jesus that fulfilled the law for our salvation The radicals on both extremes. We do not look for signs or wonders, nor do we put faith in the wisdom of men, but rather the power of God. We believe in Christ, is wisdom, righteousness, justification, and sanctification. We believe the knowledge of the love of Christ surpasses all understanding. We understand the mystery of iniquity, so we receive the love of the truth so that we may be saved. We do not believe Gods love negates the truth we are to come into, nor does the truth negate the love of God made known in Jesus to save us. Receiving The love of the truth and the effectual working of His power according to His Word in truth, giving us a love for the truth of God. We believe we do good works because we are saved, not to be saved. We believe all those that come to Jesus are chastened. If not you are illegitimate. He purges His floor with fire, He keeps the wheat and puts in His barn, but those that do not stay in the faith, are burned up like chaff. Being led by the Holy Spirit we have hope in the Lord during trials. Those that do not believe are currently condemned. Those that believe are not condemned. Simplicity in Christ is taught. Those that believe in Jesus must know that they have eternal life. We believe to be in Christ, we strive against sin, and set to walk in the newness of His Spirit. We know we sin in the process, but we mature in faith and our walk overcoming in the blood of Jesus. We believe to be rooted and grounded in the love of God and faith in Jesus to have a realization of His Spirit in us. We look to His return. I am not a sensationalist, because I am not God. If you state you have a gift, the truth and fruit will tell all. We believe the brethren are known for their love for one another, in accordance with Gods love. We Believe God was in Jesus reconciling the world to Himself. I personally believe when we see God, we will see Jesus. I believe God is a Spirit that resides in His only begotten Son. They are uniquely of the same Spirit. I believe all judgment and power was given to Jesus. The flesh, the blood and the Spirit testifies that Jesus was of God and who He sent to accomplish salvation. They all three agree in One that Jesus is the Son of God that came in the flesh. We believe in Heaven: The Father, The Word, and the Holy Spirit are One. I believe when Jesus returned to the Father, in the day of Pentecost the Spirit was poured on the flesh, as prophesied. We believe the Word is complete and revelation is needed, not prophesy. I personally do not believe anyones credentials in schooling , replaces or enlarges what God gives us. I believe it is good to be educated to study the word, but i also believe many unschooled believers, God will use to confound the wisdom of men. Why? God is glorified, not man. So, I attend a independent fundamental baptist church and yes we prefer the Kjv as being a trusted version of the Word of God. This same version was used in the studying of scripture, lead by the Holy Spirit and given wisdom by God, when we asked and did not doubt. Any questions or rants, or biblical critique is welcomed and look to the truth of Gods Word as the final authority.

My word of the day, "discombobulated". Thanks Dr. Job well done.

When I was in an IFB church the Pastor threw his NIV across the stage. 😂 Perhaps he should not have bought a copy in the first place.

@ManlyServant

2 жыл бұрын

he buy it simply because he want to use this to dishonor it lmao

@hunteroxentine3661

6 ай бұрын

All for the show

This is a hugely important issue. Especially to young people. Christianity is in safe hands for the 21st century and beyond.

@oneman80840

4 жыл бұрын

Your Bible is corrupt from the beginning if you truly love God you will except Islam into your heart

So incredibly thankful I was delivered by God from kjvoifb false teachings! Sola Deo Gloria!

I am sorry I cannot get past the red suspenders LOL🤣😅😂

While I was in Bible college I witnessed another student drop kick the NIV across the room.

More of these vids Dr. White.😊

What is the program that ur reading the Greek on?

@nathanielfroese5679

3 жыл бұрын

Accordance! It is pricey but I can assure you it is worth while.

Dr. White, what logo is on your shirt?

@tintinismybelgian

3 жыл бұрын

I think it's the logo for North-West University. www.nwu.ac.za/

My first Bible was an old Catholic Bible with words that we did not use any more, much more difficult than the English King James . However that Bible transformed my life . Now I am using an NIV because it is easy to read, but I like to use the parallel Bible on Biblehub with it.

@padraicbrown6718

4 ай бұрын

Probably Douay-Rheims, which slightly predates the KJV, hence the old words. Interestingly, both D-R and KJV translate that passage the same, yet it poses no problem for the Catholic.

What software is Dr. White using?

@File001

4 жыл бұрын

Accordance Bible software.

As a pastor once said, "immature"

I have been a member of 2 independent fundamental Baptist KJVO Churches. I have to admit that I was convinced that the KJV was the only true Bible. I have come to the conclusion that the reason that a lot of these IFB preachers preach KJVO is because they want their members, and they do look at members of their churches as " Theirs", to be separated from other believers because they are afraid that they will leave and take their money with them. Also because they might get the idea that the Pastor is not supposed to be a benevolent dictator and therefore begin to question his authority over the checkbook and the church's credit cards.

@timthompson5225

3 жыл бұрын

Kevin Young That is absolutely ridiculous reasoning on your part. Not sure how you ever reached that conclusion.

@guitartrashman

3 жыл бұрын

My pastor lives in a modest house and drives a modest car. We are an independent baptist church and KJV but are pastor would not through any book like that. Dont judge all the same.

@kevinyoung8651

3 жыл бұрын

@@guitartrashman Please note that I said "most" not all (and by most I mean the ones I know personally of). If your pastor is a faithful steward of God's words and his church then good for you. I hope that he includes the members on decisions about the finances and you vote on the budget and are able to see for yourselves the budget and the church treasurer is someone selected from the church by the church and not appointed by the pastor or the pastor or a member of his family. I also hope that you don't find out some day that the "church" has been sold and the proceeds are in the pastors pocket. These are abuses of the job that I know of.

@raymatthews4319

3 жыл бұрын

@@duranbailiff5337 Not all IFBs support Jack Hyles or his followers. What he committed was sin and God will deal with it. To lump a whole group into a single category is wrong. There were other IFB preachers who exposed what Hyles was doing and reported on it.

I'm not a fan of "KJV-Only" preaching, in spite of this, I rever it personally. People who engage in such arguments would argue over whether to baptize people in freshwater or saltwater.

@SandlapperSam

2 жыл бұрын

No its really not. In Isaiah 14:12 it calls Satan "The Morning Star" in the NIV. However Jesus says he is The Morning Star in Rev 22:16. They say it makes it easier to understand but if you ask me it not only makes it more confusing but is down right blasphemous.

@AsianTheDomination

Жыл бұрын

@@SandlapperSam Lucifer does not come from the original text

@samlawrence2695

Жыл бұрын

​@@SandlapperSam Lucifer is not Satan. It is a Latin word for the planet Venus. The meaning is light bringer or " morning star". The NIV is more accurate no Latin word should be in an English translation. Showing the Catholic influence on the KJV. Also the NIV does not say Morning Star. Because that is Jesus. It says morning star, a prophecy against the king of Babylon who sought to exalt himself above the throne of God. Like the KJV only cult seek to exalt their imperfect uninspired KJV translation above the throne of God. Nobody who is honest could ever say that the NIV is saying that Jesus is Satan. But their is nothing honest about the KJV only cult.

As John MacArthur says, “unqualified”

@solideogloria1644

4 жыл бұрын

Be careful, the pastor may run with it and pridefully write a book using the term.

@baptisttampabay

4 жыл бұрын

Better unqualified than unsaved.

@shooterdownunder

3 жыл бұрын

@@baptisttampabay unfortunately it seems to be both in this case.

@alyssiavaughn3884

3 жыл бұрын

@@solideogloria1644 the fact that he did 😭😭

@briankregg6329

3 жыл бұрын

Noone more unqualified than John

What software is that? I am always switching between browser windows but something like this would be perfect for me.

@bereanbarnabas3355

3 жыл бұрын

Accordance I think

Are these highlights a new thing with Dr. White channel? These are awesome

@jojowalrus1453

3 жыл бұрын

This channel is not official

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom. - Psa 111 Blessed is the man who fears the LORD. Psa 112 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom. Pro 9 The fear of the LORD is the instruction of wisdom. Pro 15

I think alot of confusion comes in because we are taking to different manuscripts. James white is using the eclectic or alexandrian text vs TR. But even the TR uses the word "Sozo" which is a verb and translated as "safe" 93 times in KJV, it is also translated as "made whole" but only 9 times. So there's a debate that could be had.

Why do modern churches wear shorts and t shirts to church?

surprised he is allowed to wear such bright colored suspenders

Good stuff

What software is he using???

@Kman.

Жыл бұрын

Did you find out yet? I like, when the ENGLISH is highlighted, it follows on the RIGHT side in the Greek!

What about Calvary Independent Baptists? Are they NKJ only as well?

WOW! How disrespectful and disturbing!

There really is something charming about the IFB.

@jesusfaith2232

Жыл бұрын

🥴

The sinners prayer in and of itself is not biblical.

@mikes.8120

4 жыл бұрын

Yep it’s a tradition of men

@RoastBeefSandwich

4 жыл бұрын

@Rodrick Evans My point is that there is no prayer that makes someone saved. I do not believe in works-based salvation. The Bible says to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved - no mention of needing to pray a prayer or offer a sacrifice or anything. Jesus is the sacrifice and his blood covers a multitude of sins.

@timwinn5834

4 жыл бұрын

@Rodrick Evans Jesus and scripture call us to repent and believe. Never is anyone led in a prayer in scripture, in order to be saved. While the sinner's prayer is very unbiblical, God can still strike a straight blow with a crooked stick.. So, those who believe God did really change their heart, even through an unbiblical prayer, need not worry. God is sovereign over salvation.

@RoastBeefSandwich

4 жыл бұрын

@Rodrick Evans Amen, when the preacher talked about the sinner's prayer I presumed he was speaking of the common "sinner's prayer" that you see a lot in fundamental Christianity.

@shredhed572

4 жыл бұрын

"Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner." Hmm I don't see anything wrong with that...do you?

IFB box of frogs ….nutters!

Paul is talking about multitudes being saved over time like the sand in the hourglass trickles down. The damned also are perishing spiritually and physically each hour. Two things are always occurring simultaneously. The Saved are being saved and the damned are being damned.

I've been looking for a good reason to chuck an NIV during a sermon. Dr. White's response saddens me by dashing my hope that this will ever come to pass. Seriously though. Why would you ever listen to a preacher who throws a tantrum and then a Bible? I do not use the NIV, but many saints in my life have used it as their primary. Of all my studies into translations and listening to folks like Dr. White and Dr. Michael Brown I'm thoroughly convinced that there is no honest translation that will lead you into sin except the few that are intentionally bad and reserved for the cults. How childish and immature of this Pastor to demonstrate such a petty mentality. It is no wonder to me that the Church in America is in the depraved and powerless state it has come to with undisciplined men like this in the pulpit.

@dustdriver115

4 жыл бұрын

My first Bible was an old Catholic Bible with words that we did not use any more, much more difficult than the English King James . However that Bible transformed my life . Now I am using an NIV because it is easy to read, but I like to use the parallel Bible on Biblehub with it.

@ChristianStuff256

4 жыл бұрын

I use an NLT for everyday reading and NKJV and NASB for critical study. I'm learning Greek right now though and hope to one day use that as my primary study Bible.

Which Greek Manuscripts were used? Alexandrian?? Is this passage different in the Antiochan Manuscripts??

@curtthegamer934

4 жыл бұрын

This verse is the same in both

@Michael-uk3pj

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah this is a translational not a textual issue...

Why are IFB pastors so angry?

@randomango2789

2 жыл бұрын

They like to compare their preaching style to John the Baptist in order to justify why they choose to yell when they preach. Even when they’re not angry, they still feel the need to yell in every service.

I’m a independent fundamental Baptist! As for my church and other church I been too always used Roman’s road! There’s only one way that is through the blood of Jesus! One verse I used when showing how to be saved is Romans 9:10 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. God knows who’s going accept him and he know he won’t! I support any church who preach the gospel!

@taylor3101

Жыл бұрын

Funny, you don't sound angry.... Are you sure you're independent fundamental Baptist? 😂 Lol

@BeardedKingBear

Жыл бұрын

@@taylor3101 yes I’m sure

straight outta hell! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Is it me or do many of those guys look like they need anger management? A passionate heart is a great thing, but there’s a fine line.

How do I get saved and go to heaven?

@LaGeRcs

2 жыл бұрын

Here you go m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZKSXpcqBYZjAdpM.html

@user-sl5rk4dm8y

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus saves kzread.info/dash/bejne/d3iDx7VplrGvesY.html

Unbelievable!

their stupidity never ends

I follow that guy on TikTok I thought it was a bit!

He was theatrical but at same time NIV is not a great bible.

@stevetucker5851

3 жыл бұрын

Why? I’m willing to bet that a Christian reading the NIV is going to have a better understanding of scripture than a Christian reading the ESV. The ESV and NASB are too literal and, as a result, frequently obscure the meaning of the text.

@alyssiavaughn3884

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevetucker5851 Esv isn’t that bad to understand, if your a new believer it would be best to start with esv because it goes from the Greek and it doesn’t do thought for thought like other versions, but then upgrading to maybe NASB yeah

@alyssiavaughn3884

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevetucker5851 I think it just depends on how they can use big words I guess.

@claudiabailey5302

3 жыл бұрын

@Based Pilled and the same publishers print the KJV your point is?

@curtthegamer934

3 жыл бұрын

@Based Pilled That makes it all the worse though. Because anybody can publish the KJV, that means a very corrupt company could print copies of it and sell it for a quick buck, just as a money-making scheme. This also means the text is more likely to get tampered with. All of these completely legal publications (due to being a public domain work) don't need proofreaders, so somebody could put some subtle tweak into the text that changes the meaning, publish it, and then somebody could buy it, use it as their everyday Bible without realizing it's been tampered with, and be led down the wrong path because of the tweak to the text. With the copyrighted translations, all of the publications are authorized by the publishers and are proofread for any typos.

I guess he does not understand that we are not fully redeemed as there is a future redemption...our bodies needing to be redeemed. I also used to believe the same about how words are first used but not following savishly. I would think if this is so important, someone would have produced a dictionary or concordance detailing the meaning of every time a word is defoined for the first time. No one has that I am aware of. Then I wonder what do you do with semantics domains as well as an English word having different underlying Greek or Hebrew words. Used to be IFB and KJVO but not so much to be a cage stage KJVO IFB challenging anyone at a Christian book store trying to challenge anyone considering something else than a KJV. Thank you Lord for keeping me from ever going down that road.

I’ve seen a lot of these IFB videos. Have to wonder, is there a weight requirement to be an IFB pastor? Haven’t seen a single one with a healthy BFI.

I believe Jim Jones also threw The Bible...

What program is that? I want to see those original manuscripts

Holy Spirit is the key

More examples of the willful and deliberate ignorance of King James Onlyism. BTW I want your mini Enterprise-D Warp Core you have on your shelf.

@BillWalkerWarren

4 жыл бұрын

I dont think he will let you have it . I believe he powers the AC in his office during our hot arizona summers 😓 🌵

@jrc99us

4 жыл бұрын

@@BillWalkerWarren aww bummer! Makes sense. 😭😉

@firstnamelastname2552

2 жыл бұрын

Actually he powers the warp core by peddling his bike, and the warp core distributes that power to the entire building.

Not a fan of the Living Bible or the NIV. Still wouldn't throw a copy whether at home or especially at a pulpit!

In the IFB culture any scholarship and intellectualism in the study of scripture is considered evil. This is how IFB pastors keep control over their congregations. When people in IFB churches do any deep, intellectual study of scripture they tend to leave those churches.

I would hate to see when he reads about gluttony.

Well, just listened to an old Keith Green talk and he was railing about "the sinners prayer" and "excepting Jesus as our personal savior" is no where in the Bible. Are these people just looking for attention?

If they hate other versions so much, why not just not use it?Why the sacrilegious treatment of Scripture and why the theatrics?KJV onlyism really is an extreme form of mental illness.

@---zc4qt

4 жыл бұрын

KJV Onlyists are like Mormons- in that they HATE any logic that shows they are wrong.

@cole5773

4 жыл бұрын

Not a kjv only guy but I do use kjv and believe it to be the best otherwise I wouldn’t use it.... however the only reason I use it is translation style. Word for word as much as possible translated and the phrases where phrases must be used and they use italicization of the text to show hey this is a phrase. Just honest translation. Also, I am a fan of the received text due to it being the majority of all the manuscripts that we have. And the vast amount of time they cover and are still in agreement with what they said 1500 years ago. So in my conclusion I use KJV even tho I was saved reading a NIV but do not like it now but the csb and esv ain’t to bad

@cole5773

4 жыл бұрын

And weather you like it or not a lot of the kjv only people are your brothers in Christ as well it would do you well to exhort them rather call them mentally ill even if they act that way some times 🤷‍♂️

@cole5773

4 жыл бұрын

Doctrine is what you believe...... not what Bible translation you use.....

@cole5773

4 жыл бұрын

Not picking up what your putting down brother

The minister is funny. Comedy entertainment in church.

Rager being wrong does not mean that the Calvanistic misinterpretation of the passage is correct. There is another way to understand this passage.

IFB's are nothing if not insane and hilarious, and overall a good source of entertainment.

Is Rager still in jail for hitting his wife?

@user-sl5rk4dm8y

2 жыл бұрын

He didn't hit his wife that's a lie from hell. They was arguing period

@rockycomet4587

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-sl5rk4dm8y LOL, wrong. Now she's his ex-wife.

@user-sl5rk4dm8y

2 жыл бұрын

@@rockycomet4587 He still didn't hit her, they was arguing.

This pastor should learn how to read the bible.

Lol

My issue is in labeling all Independent Fundamental Baptists with the same broad brush of wacko, ignorant theology. There is a very broad spectrum of those who identify as Independent Fundamental Baptists. Pastor Rager appears to fit into the far right 1611 KJV is the very inspired Word of God camp. I am also a Fundamental Baptist, and I would never attend this church. My background is that of the Baptist Bible Fellowship. We are quite aware that the KJV is a translation and the originals were in Greek and Hebrew. When I was in college the head of theology at BBC and pastor of Cherry Street Baptist Church, did his personal Bible study in the original languages. We used the KJV, we didn't worship it.

@HeidiRobinson-lf4nj

9 ай бұрын

Thank you James White for pointing out to us that the NIV actually got something right pertaining to God's teachings.

Idiocy.

Which Greek are you using? I bet you won't answer. Checkmate.

@cmiddleton9872

3 жыл бұрын

The verse is the exact same in the textus receptus

@clintrhodus5821

3 жыл бұрын

Gotcha! So is it in Greek? 😊

Having once belonged to IFB churches. Not all see it this guy’s way and would find an antic like this abominable. It’s true they have little logic to their theological process because any chap who sees himself as called can get up, read three verses and fire away with little or no real theological training and get ordained. I credit them for being Bible believers - but it’s sad that still some have not taken the time that they should as ministers to learn and conduct proper Bible interpretation that would benefit themselves and their congregations.

Script by the 3 Stooges...!

Yep NASB says something. No Greek grammar background.

Says the KJV mistranslates 1 Corinthians 1:18 (4:00) then says the only way to translate it differently than modern versions without mistranslating it would be to use a translation that the KJV uses (7:40) .... Top-shelf.

Expect this doesn’t jive with Mr. Whites theology...

@TheJpep2424

3 жыл бұрын

It doesn't jive with the Bible

So what condition would the Church be in today if the only Bible we ever had was the King James? I think all this scholarly work has done nothing but cause doubt and confusion.

🤣🤣 some one needs to go in a diet!!

This is complete nonsense.Not all IFB peiple believe that you get saved "walking the ilse".Calvanists believe that salvation is a one moment in time thing.And than we go unto salvation is an ongoing process.If salvation is a process than you are a catholic.That's what they believe

@odgreen9113

4 жыл бұрын

No, calvanists believe justification and adoption are one event and sanctification is the process. Catholics believe you need to keep on working to keep that salvation and it can be lost. Catholics are very much a works righteousness system. Kinda the opposite of calvanism

@pjetri24

4 жыл бұрын

@@odgreen9113 I agree.But he is saying that is wrong for IFB to believe that you get ssved in a moment in time.Wouldn-t you adree that justification=salvation,hence a moment in time.

@mkshffr4936

3 жыл бұрын

@@pjetri24 What I understood James to be saying is that IFB think of it as only a moment in time and that they have difficulty with the ongoing nature. As he said the already and not yet. At the temporal moment of conversion we are transferred from one kingdom to the other but the outworkings and ramifications of that are ongoing.

For the words of a modern translation are foolishness to the IFB pastor, but to those who know Greek, it is the Word of God faithfully translated into English.

@snackpup

Жыл бұрын

Uh buddy, you don't have any one of the 66 original manuscripts. Your friends over there with their faith in the kjv are more honest than you. Your religion is based on no originals. No originals means bullshit. At least they believe their book. You don't even believe your book 😅😅😅 and you think your devil hasn't gotten you😂😂😂😂😂

The way Dr White speaks it sounds as if one who asked the Lord to forgive them of their sins and asked Him to save them may still go to hell. I will never understand Calvinist theology.

@j.d.auwerda4795

4 жыл бұрын

Well you can understand it, if you put the effort into it. First of all if you're one asking God to forgive you of your sins and to save you from hell, he definitely will. Soley because Jesus promised he who comes to him, he will never cast out. And if you are seeking him, it is because he sought you first and is drawing you to himself. The unregenerate (the natural man) would never ask that sort of thing because they don't care of the state of their souls neither does it concern them. The book of John makes that abundantly clear.

@andydressler6761

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe "saved by grace" can add his opinion. I tried to tag him but I'm sure he will see this thread.

@madjack821

3 жыл бұрын

White is reading the text which states that the word of the cross (the Gospel) is foolishness to those who are perishing (lost;” it’s been said already that the natural man doesn’t care about the condition he’s in. Think about the atheist who spews blasphemies at Christians or the “good” man who trusts in his own perceived goodness.

I don't understand why Calvinists argue against anything anyone does. If humans don't have free will, it wasn't his choice to throw the Bible, God ordained it.

@acolytes777

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the strawman

@michaelbain399

4 жыл бұрын

@@acolytes777 It's not a straw man. I have indeed argued with Calvinists who say that every single thing a person does is ordained by God, including sin, and that nothing happens outside the will of God. I asked them how can this be, since the Bible says God hates sin. They answered "god's ways are not our ways".

@Michael-uk3pj

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelbain399 "you meant evil against me, God MEANT it for good" gen 50:20 Just because God intended it doesn't absolve the evil doers and their evil intentions Neither were those who crucified Christ absolved despite doing what "God's hand and plan had predestined to take place" Acts 4:28 So it can be his choice and yet God ordained...

@nickspitzley8539

3 жыл бұрын

You came here just to say that didn't you.

@KnightFel

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelbain399yeah it is. It’s a massive straw man. Reformed theologians are talking about Soteriology. Not God controlling you as a puppet. The Bible shows the total complete sovereignty of God, and the responsibility of Man.

Brother Rager!

Lol that's awesome I'd have thrown it in the trash personally but whatever

KJV Bible is the best Version of God's teachings for the 21st Century..... that we're living in now.

While I do share Nathan’s conviction that the KJB is Gods inspired and preserved word in English, his disposition and silly antics are are abhorrent. As an Independent Baptist Pastor myself, I can assure most IB pastors do not conduct themselves in this manner. As a matter of fact, 99.9% of us consider this guy a joke and a laughing stock. Everything about him is absolutely fake - including his “southern accent” he tries so hard to get people to notice. It’s sad when the true churches of Jesus Christ are given a poor testimony when nonsense like this occurs.

@snackpup

Жыл бұрын

Most baptists churches now teach calvinism which is pseudo catholicism so you can take your crap there. They treat their esv and niv well there. Dont bring up a kjv in Bible study though. And don't dare say that everyone reading a different version is confusing They like their devil there

Ah but which Greek? The critical text or majority text? The KJV was the last bible to use the correct line of manuscripts.

@curtthegamer934

3 жыл бұрын

The KJV uses neither of those. It uses the Textus Receptus, which is based on only about ten manuscripts. It is very similar to the Majority Text, but it has a few differences.

@His-Story.ForHisGlory

3 жыл бұрын

@@curtthegamer934 The Textus Receptus is of the majority text. And no, there are over 66,000 manuscripts that agree with each other while the critical text only has around 5000.

@curtthegamer934

3 жыл бұрын

@@His-Story.ForHisGlory None of the manuscripts agree with each other one hundred percent. Even the most similar ones have minor differences such as words misspelled. It is plain ignorance to say that they all match up.

@curtthegamer934

3 жыл бұрын

@@His-Story.ForHisGlory To clarify, Erasmus took the ten manuscripts he had available, looked at what was the same between all of them, and chose the readings that were matched between them. This does not mean that all ten of them said the same thing. This simply means that he went "Okay, seven of these say 'a large crowd,' while three of these say 'a crowd,' so I'll go with 'a large crowd.'" He was actually only able to find one Greek manuscript of Revelation (it was a harder book to find at the time), and the last page had fallen off, so he actually went to the Latin Vulgate, and translated the end of Revelation back into Greek, which lead to some readings that appear in none of the Greek manuscripts in existence. Erasmus' text was actually revised a couple of times as well. It did not originally contain 1 John 5:7, because it did not appear in any of the manuscripts that Erasmus had access to. He eventually included it under pressure after somebody gave him one Greek manuscript that contained it, despite his suspicions that it had been forged (prior to that, it had only been known from the Latin Vulgate). The Textus Receptus was also revised after Erasmus' death by Beza and some other people. The later Majority Text is actually based on the actual majority of manuscripts, because we have the ability to actually look at the majority now (because of the existence of the internet where we can look at scans of all the manuscripts). It is absurd to think that Erasmus had access to the majority of manuscripts, because it is simply anachronistic thinking. How could he have had access to the majority to base his text on? Where would he have gotten them from? There are minor differences between the Textus Receptus and the Majority Text, and one of them is the ending of Revelation because the Textus Receptus version was a back translation into Greek of the Latin Vulgate, while the Majority Text version is the actual Greek version.

@His-Story.ForHisGlory

3 жыл бұрын

@@curtthegamer934 You should keep doing your research because you have it completely backwards and out of order. You should watch the documentary Lamp in the Dark. Infact, watch all 3 of them.

Rager is a good preacher

@curtthegamer934

Жыл бұрын

Seriously? He beat up his wife!

There’s a new Bible every 10 years😂 May Allah guide them to the truth

@kingjamesbiblebeliever8387

4 жыл бұрын

Even less than that now

@RockBadgerChristianity

4 жыл бұрын

Same Bible. Different translations. Learn original languages and there is no "new Bible."

@kingjamesbiblebeliever8387

4 жыл бұрын

@Rock Badger Christianity you’re so indoctrinated it’s not even funny.

@RockBadgerChristianity

4 жыл бұрын

@@kingjamesbiblebeliever8387 Explain, don't just claim

@RockBadgerChristianity

4 жыл бұрын

@@kingjamesbiblebeliever8387 I know what Textual Criticism is, and the Alexandrian vs. Byzantine controversy and all that

Umm translation is key and the KJV truly holds the closest value to the original texts. He's right, its either you're saved or not. There is NO middle ground. Any version that doesn't solidly state that you are saved by the Jesus' death, burial and resurrection then IT IS HERESY. It's going to be a brutal wake up call for all of you depending on your works to get you into heaven when all you had to do was accept Jesus as your personal lord and savior, believe what he did on the cross and confess it with your mouth Romans 10:9-10 Ephesians 2 8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

@cascadianapplications7124

4 жыл бұрын

And yet Jesus says you will be judged on your works?

@tabunga4669

4 жыл бұрын

@@cascadianapplications7124 in conjunction to what your treasures will be. You can lose rewards as well as earn them. Also if you die as someone who isn't saved then you WILL be judged by your works and those will never save you. Read romans I believe it is. Paul says that if it were still based off works then christ died in vain. What he did on the cross was a perfect sacrifice and if you dont believe in that then you aren't relying on Jesus alone. Which is required to be saved. Look up pastor Gene Kim and you'll see he answers the hardest questions by using ONLY THE BIBLE as proof. He doesn't share an opinion unless it doesn't affect scripture and uses scripture with scripture to back up what the Bible says. For deeper understanding of the bible he has a 2hr and 45min clip on how to divide the bible the way it needs to. It is called amazing dispensation from genesis to revelation. Totally made my Bible knowledge GROW immensely

@tabunga4669

4 жыл бұрын

@@cascadianapplications7124 kzread.info/dash/bejne/eX1opdaedanef84.html

@chacor06

4 жыл бұрын

@@cascadianapplications7124 True but this is not salvation Judgment it is the judgment for crowns and rewards for the good and bad things done. Beama Seat not White Throne

@chacor06

4 жыл бұрын

@@tabunga4669 Awesome I clicked on your video and saw my absolute favorite preacher Dr. Gene Kim! Been following his teaching for years he cleared up so many questions for me what a blessing. Dispensational is the only way!

Dont you think God is powerful enough that he had the king James version interpreted how he wanted too? Also what is it with you guys that understand greek? Your so condescending as if you know it all because of the Greek. Jesus spoke in simple words to people so even children could understand. Newer translation have left complete verses out. If you believe my first question than you also believe nothing added or taken away from his word. Maybe that's different in Greek or even aramaic.

@calebgeary3890

4 жыл бұрын

Yikes guy, that's the same logic Mormons use, but alright

@johngibbs4880

4 жыл бұрын

@@calebgeary3890 well whats your take on it? The book of Mormon falls under dont add or take away. Do you read the bible or just troll? Because if you read we can talk. If you dont maybe you should, before you comment. But alright.

@calebgeary3890

4 жыл бұрын

@@johngibbs4880 I read, and study theology. I'm not trolling you, but to make the claim that God could have divinely inspired the KJV is just unfounded. We fixate on the Greek because that is the language in which the NT was written in. We don't have the original manuscripts, however we have thousands of copies based off of the original manuscripts. I mention the Mormons because you have a man that looked into a hat and said what he read and wrote down was divinely inspired. How do we know it's wrong? It goes against the truth of Scripture. How do we know the truth of Scripture? Through language and words. What language was used to convey Truth? Greek.

@johngibbs4880

4 жыл бұрын

@@calebgeary3890 so you don't believe the KJV was divinely inspired? But you definitely believe the Greek interruption is right? Didn't Jesus speak in aramaic? It seems that theologians as yourself remind me of the old catholic priest and the Pope. No one can interpret the word properly as they and you can. I suppose we shall find the truth one day. Seems like a slippery slope to say it's not divinely inspired. As I said your the expert. I strongly disagree with you. But I still love you.👍

@johngibbs4880

4 жыл бұрын

@@calebgeary3890 Since you read so much check 1 Corinthians 1: 19-22.

I burn new bible's while I preach out of the KJV.

@carriejesusislord14

2 жыл бұрын

Preaching from the word of God, while burning the antichrist per-versions? Good for you, as it should be!👍

@jesusfaith2232

Жыл бұрын

Box of frogs!

If you don't use a KJV then you have no Bible.

@carriejesusislord14

2 жыл бұрын

TRUTH!👍👍

@firstnamelastname2552

2 жыл бұрын

Which verse in the KJV did you learn that from?

@user-sl5rk4dm8y

2 жыл бұрын

@@firstnamelastname2552 It's Authority is from Genesis to Revelation. Go read it all if you really want to read.

@firstnamelastname2552

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-sl5rk4dm8y That's not an answer to the question. You said "If you don't use a KJV then you have no Bible". Show me where the KJV says if I don't use the KJV then I don't have a real Bible.

@user-sl5rk4dm8y

2 жыл бұрын

@@firstnamelastname2552 Your question is answered and it's your lukewarm ideology that may resist the answer, but it has been answered. Now go read

Btw, Calvinism is disgusting.

You compare Scripture with Scripture ! Not other sources, that is complete ignorance. Make every man a liar and my WORD the truth. The KJV BIBLE IS THE WORD!

@carriejesusislord14

2 жыл бұрын

Sure is, Amen 🙏

@rockycomet4587

2 жыл бұрын

It is a translation of the Word of God.

@user-sl5rk4dm8y

2 жыл бұрын

@@rockycomet4587 I burn modern bible's. The KJV is infallible

@jesusfaith2232

Жыл бұрын

@@user-sl5rk4dm8y maybe listen to the video again,

James White is a trinitarian calvinist. I never in any scripture read where God told anybody to be that. Sums it up!

@firstnamelastname2552

2 жыл бұрын

Which church/denomination would you say is teaching the true biblical faith? What denomination do you belong to, or what kind of church do you attend, or what do you call yourself besides just 'Christian'?

@briankregg6329

2 жыл бұрын

@@firstnamelastname2552 follower of Christ, I believe that which is written

@firstnamelastname2552

2 жыл бұрын

@@briankregg6329 James White would say the same thing. So would a Mormon, a Jehovah's witness, a Black Hebrew Israelite, almost every religion would say this. Just tell me plainly which church is teaching "what is written". Help me understand.

@briankregg6329

2 жыл бұрын

@@firstnamelastname2552 that is the problem, no church is doing that. James White is a trinitarian not a Christian or follower of Christ, trinity isn't written, it's man made

@firstnamelastname2552

2 жыл бұрын

@@briankregg6329 There is no church on earth teaching the correct biblical faith? How do you know this? Please explain the truth to me.