“an honest talk” *my jEaNs aRe DaRk bLuE1!!1*

@Rony049

4 жыл бұрын

Duskol lol

@manueldejesusrojassandi3919

4 жыл бұрын

Honesty where its due XD

@yuu_yii

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@riswanda2620

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@somethingwithbungalows

4 жыл бұрын

And not to mention he’s a Canadian. Y’all know Canadian stereotypes right?

10% of comments: actually about the video The other 90%: **OmG BeAveR yOur JeAns**

@johnwick293

4 жыл бұрын

Mini Main Dawg that’s so true 😂

@junghoonlim1580

4 жыл бұрын

Yep

@kingofthecharizard522

3 жыл бұрын

kinda annoying

24 minutes without ads? That's how you know this is serious.

@kangeexx

4 жыл бұрын

SMEPIC Mammott ..... there are 4 ads

@GPPanda

4 жыл бұрын

@@kangeexx not for me.

@maiyiayangs8670

4 жыл бұрын

@@GPPanda ms neither

@chitinskin9860

4 жыл бұрын

@@kangeexx You just got unlucky, no ads for me either

@andersenhoffmeyer6996

4 жыл бұрын

Hi

*sees thumbnail of beaver sitting infont of the camera* Me: oh boy this must be serious Beaver: my jeans are dark blue and not black! Me: wait what....

@lvl5dino749

4 жыл бұрын

By PaNtZ Are DArK BlUe!!,,!,!!

@ItsAlreadyTaken35

4 жыл бұрын

Who remembers face cam Friday?

@moeru2022

4 жыл бұрын

Its Already Taken who can forget face cam fridays

@aitipsea3909

4 жыл бұрын

@@ItsAlreadyTaken35 FACE CAM SUNDAAAAYS (uuu... Yeah!)

@kinglon3

4 жыл бұрын

I see you’re a jojo fan.

For whatever reason I genuinely love theses talks Beaver gives, its honest and unbiased. Beaver is also very calm about this and still keeps it light hearted. Just wanted to express my appreciation, don't mind me.

@jurassicbread4279

4 жыл бұрын

Nerdy Scrub I agree with you on that. I too enjoy his honest, unbiased talks because honest talks like this are quite difficult to come by.

@fang609

4 жыл бұрын

@@jurassicbread4279 there also difrent from his normal content witch is mostly comedic gaming.

@jurassicbread4279

4 жыл бұрын

Fang indeed!

@GeorgeTheDinoGuy

4 жыл бұрын

Nerdy Scrub he’s like my dad

My first recommended videos were "The truth about day of dragons" and "An honest talk about day of dragons"... My heart just sank

@pasteldreams5413

4 жыл бұрын

I got really panicked about it as well, but not for long. I have a feeling that this game is going to turn out fine, and you can find evidence of this in several videos on Twitch which feature voice calls with DoD's developer. I recommend you watch a few of the videos on Twitch. They are a bit biased in favor of the game, but a lot of things are cleared up.

@shumaatiqunnassa4123

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah igp and gaming beaver. I was looking so forward to this

@theillethedartisan7514

4 жыл бұрын

Ya I was like nonononono This was supposed to be a game I can look forward to :0

@nshippudennaruto2814

4 жыл бұрын

shadowcrash333 I agree...I hope it turns out for the better

@farooqmalik6856

4 жыл бұрын

Tujvtui

I feel like Beaver will be villanized by the hard Pro-DoD community now and may be the victim of a witch hunt, I really hope not.

@calebmatthews4014

4 жыл бұрын

Same, he is such a great dude, he doesnt deserve a witch hunt

@EastByEastz

4 жыл бұрын

Actually a lot of peps on here (supporters include) agree with beaver on a lot of point. This vid was a lot more civil then the IGP vid, which caused its own problems with trolls joining the server

@ryaquaza3offical

4 жыл бұрын

Is there a hard Pro-DoD community already? I would say something about “surely they watched the video and understand it’s not a hate thing, and nobody got mad at his opinion about ignoring PoT on baseless claims” but then I remember it’s the Internet we are talking about and toxicity can come from nowhere and at any time so whatever

@scl9671

4 жыл бұрын

A serious question do you honestly think a few thousand people are going to do anything on top of what he already probably gets?

@InkGraffiti

4 жыл бұрын

I like beaver's video way more than IGPs. IGP was very call-out-y whereas this is a lot more neutral and honest. I really do hope the game ends up being something cool though :(

Recreated in Unreal Engine, otherwise, brilliant video! Here's hoping there's a lot more transparency going forward, it could become an amazing game.

@bottleofgrapejuice5009

4 жыл бұрын

How's it going handsome.

@Dashedfrost

4 жыл бұрын

you IGP and the gaming beaver should play the isle together also im a subscriber to all of you

@Dashedfrost

4 жыл бұрын

love your videos

@glaedrgames5691

4 жыл бұрын

You're a savage lmao

@whoahanant

4 жыл бұрын

Icy!😎👌👍❤

Literally not even 2 seconds into the video James: Oh my god. These are dark blue and not black!

They definitely seem like they are genuine in their desire to bring this game to life. They really need to hire folks that are much more experienced in the industry to coach them. If they make more mistakes, it will end up snowballing and crushing this project.

@Vainglory100

4 жыл бұрын

Lady Skeptic no, I don’t think I will.

@Lakita2880

4 жыл бұрын

@@Vainglory100 Cool

@greatmanmichael612

4 жыл бұрын

Just watch it ya dummy

@zephyboii1200

4 жыл бұрын

Cassie Novak completely agreed!!

@evankurasu3190

4 жыл бұрын

Help Me then despair when your hopes and support for this game are revealed to have been for nothing when you receive nothing from it

As soon as beaver talks about people being blocked *BANNED*

@celtyren755

4 жыл бұрын

Was thinking the same thing lol also was thinking I would love to see the answer they are giving in the discord. Like hey yep beta is stalled now cause we have to answer all of you but there just banning people left and right.

@deadislander0167

4 жыл бұрын

Which is not true if you actually go onto the discord they have answered most of the questions that they can about the game and they arnt “banning problem left and right” when they asked questions. They were blocked when they harassed the staff and developers telling them to kill themselves, scammers, lier’s, and hoping they get thrown in jail.

@minisithunknown5568

4 жыл бұрын

@@deadislander0167 They are banned for a reason and only complain about it but never tell the whole story. But to get any whole story you have to have a dialog with both parties.

@ornat9145

4 жыл бұрын

He got banned?

@lauriobaptista7210

4 жыл бұрын

@@ornat9145 Beaver himself didn't get banned but IGP did and after the video he made. In the interview that Anth had with Jao, Jao calls IGP a jerk and wants his channel taken down (which is a very childish thing to say in my opinion)

Beaver they added Raptors to TABS.

@miguelm5074

4 жыл бұрын

O but Beaver there secret units.

@minervamontealvo7757

4 жыл бұрын

Yay also add dragons to tabs

@palmleaf1030

4 жыл бұрын

Miguel M true

@HydragonofDeath

4 жыл бұрын

@@minervamontealvo7757 they already did

@sealo2479

4 жыл бұрын

I’m stoopid but what’s TABS?

When he compliments his clothes at first😂

@DarthVraak

4 жыл бұрын

More like being surprised to find out that his new trousers are the wrong colour^^

@javabucket561

4 жыл бұрын

Oddest Dylan comments, your cant complement yourself. And it’s spelled, “Complement.” NOT compliment. Compliment is like an agreement.

@ItsKaz75

4 жыл бұрын

@@javabucket561 first of all com·pli·ment noun /ˈkämpləmənt/ a polite expression of praise or admiration. Second of all com·ple·ment noun /ˈkämpləmənt/ 1. a thing that completes or brings to perfection. Third of all *you Before you criticize another's comment make sure you dont make a fool of yourself.

@ItsKaz75

4 жыл бұрын

@@javabucket561 yes you can COMPLIMENT yourself

@angelicdoge7337

4 жыл бұрын

IHave NoIdeaWhatIAmDoing Also, it’s you* and can’t*. Don’t try to correct others. Look in a mirror.

Normies: first Intellectual: toast

@abrahamlincoln9160

4 жыл бұрын

No. Both the meme "toast" and "first" are dead

@phusle6028

4 жыл бұрын

@@abrahamlincoln9160 No u.

@brandonshmandon1799

4 жыл бұрын

Ultimate Trash Boy No, Team Break Mike?

@abrahamlincoln9160

4 жыл бұрын

@@phusle6028 That, unfortunately isn't funny

@phusle6028

4 жыл бұрын

@@abrahamlincoln9160 Neither are you.

The problem is that all of the assets are actually asset flips, NOT original assets, and there's almost no code to the game...

@kirielbranson4843

4 жыл бұрын

The problem isn’t that they aren’t original assets, that doesn’t make an asset flip. If nothing is done with the assets except use as is - such as the map being the demo map from the asset creator. Using assets as plug and play is an asset flip.

You should play the Isle with IcyCaress and IGP I'd love to see a collab from my three favorite content creators

@carktheshark

4 жыл бұрын

They would be hilarious

@Dashedfrost

4 жыл бұрын

yes that would be great

@viper_3297

4 жыл бұрын

Yea that would be great

@ghoultooth

4 жыл бұрын

I would LOVE this but I think Icy and Indie’s humour would be toned down a little because of course- they curse like sailors lol

@AndreTheDragon

4 жыл бұрын

nope

I get the impression that even with 500k raised they haven’t hired new staff yet, they really need to hire some more devs and get a PR representative.

@icebird2381

4 жыл бұрын

Watch IGP and all answers will be revealed

@mtimpson4183

4 жыл бұрын

@@icebird2381 No, people need to do their own research, not just rely on other people's videos.

@evankurasu3190

4 жыл бұрын

M Timpson IGP provides research, and the sources to all of it (leaving links, playing audio recordings, etc). So no, it's not entirely relying on another's video. Links be in them descriptions for a reason: it's to prove the validity of the gathered information. If you still doubt, then check the validity of those links for yourself

@mtimpson4183

4 жыл бұрын

@@evankurasu3190 I understand what you're saying and I don't disagree but i stand with what I've said. Even though this video was made recently there's been things addressed in their discord and that this video doesn't cover. If someone actually wanted answers they wouldn't rely on videos that hold old or incorrect information and instead go to the source and find things that validate or invalidate the video. It's just simply unwise to watch something and then assume that everything they're saying is correct.

@evankurasu3190

4 жыл бұрын

M Timpson I suppose that's fair. We can only hope for a good outcome to all of this... in the meantime, we aught to stop throwing money at these devs until this whole shitshow gets resolved

I am also very angry that jao says that IGP "attacked" him when the whole video that IGP posted had only facts. Dont get me wrong, like beaver says there is a small bit of bias involved but does that really matter? Besides, his video told everyone to stop 'witch hunting' jao and his peers and even tried to explain that he doesnt want to cause an uproar. Then again...all of my arguements here are invalid and meaningless seeing as how i have been subscribed to IGP and beaver for years now and i havent even joined jao's discord.

@shreyjain3197

4 жыл бұрын

dude its a comment, not an email.

@christianwilliams2617

4 жыл бұрын

@Kabliahk XD. Wow. That's the big truth.

@shreyjain3197

4 жыл бұрын

@Kabliahk there is something known as a joke.

@deadislander0167

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah no igp’s video was attacking Jao wayyyy more than beaver’s video. Beaver did his way better.

@TheNamezZ

4 жыл бұрын

It doesnt matter of igp was attacking him or not. Prove he was wrong or don’t say anything about his video at all.

Day of Dragons is in dire need of a PR manager.

@KaminaCicada

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, It's in dire need of actual development.

@garpie6438

4 жыл бұрын

@@KaminaCicada or just a bonfire to burn the shit

I like how they said IGP "attacked" them when all he did was supply evidence lmao. All haha funnies aside you got good points, Beaver. Devs need to realize it's not like we're attacking them, nor do we want the game to fail, we just want to know we're making a worthy investment.

@omegawerewolf9320

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah and because of IDP many people told the developers to kill themselves and stuff he indirectly attacked the developers I know it wasn’t really a IGPs fault But so many people are blaming the developers and it just ticks me off

@midas6753

4 жыл бұрын

@@omegawerewolf9320 I mean all of that could've been avoided if the developer was just open and honest though right? Sorry I literally just fell into this rabit hole saw a new game about dragons and now all of this stuff. Regardless of what actually has been said by either party you have to admit to an outside view it's a little sketchy especially since the premise the dev put up first was he had amazing coding experience and that he was going to do all of this alone... which turned out to be a lie...

@Roo_R8

4 жыл бұрын

@@omegawerewolf9320 agree to disagree on that but you should if you haven't watch anthomnia video, someone from the dev team made a horrific threat about him pulling from it and a shit tone of other things, they're actually attacking a lot of ppl and jao himself is!

knew this video was coming after i watched the IGP's video

@kevcrabill7921

4 жыл бұрын

Came here from IGP.

@Coco-xq7zh

4 жыл бұрын

Same 0-0

Let us know when you're banned from DoD lmfao.

@davidleeroybrownstarnes2608

4 жыл бұрын

thats exactly what I thought

@emperortethysusdacertified8175

4 жыл бұрын

#1: There's definitely a problem if someone's more banhammer happy then the lord of grouchy devs, Dondi himself #2: That pfp you got there is the best thing I've seen all day

@somethingsomething8720

4 жыл бұрын

I was just popping down here to say the same thing, but you beat me to it.

@dragonjo7550

4 жыл бұрын

bans arent being thrown out like that. IGP was banned for twisting info in a way that incited utter chaos, as someone who has seen screen caps of his entire convo with Jao unblurred, and screen caps of other evidence where igp highlights info that is thrown into a completely different light in context

@dragonjo7550

4 жыл бұрын

other bans are for repeat offences breaking pre set up rules

'An Honest talk talk about Day of Dragons' starts. Beaver: My pants are dark blue, not black! Me: Well, we are off to a great start. 😂

@alphamite9509

4 жыл бұрын

Michael VanDerZwet stafford shut you’re cute self up.

@denmaster868

4 жыл бұрын

He does not say pants, he is not American

@llybophibjartskulr3799

4 жыл бұрын

@@denmaster868 is pants an American thing? Do we know why?

@denmaster868

4 жыл бұрын

@@llybophibjartskulr3799 yes, it is *trousers* in England, no idea why

Beaver: Wears double denim Fashion police: STOP YOU VIOLATED THE LAW!

@valor2382

4 жыл бұрын

Nvm...i won't say anything

@ironclad184

4 жыл бұрын

I think he looks good

@vegetalover9297

4 жыл бұрын

@@ironclad184 agreed

@Lakita2880

4 жыл бұрын

@MrFr0stycave Pay the court a fine, or serve your sentence!

@xx_b4rr3l_xx

4 жыл бұрын

Quickkiller2880 your stolen goods are now forfeit

This whole Situation feels like it's straight out of a black mirror episode. The fact that everyone could make a game like that while getting literally hundreds of thousand dollars is really worrying. I mean, on the first look, it seems like this guy was simply not prepared for the success this project had on kickstarter. Which is not an excuse for this Situation, because if you start a project, especially a project for a game, one of the most impactful, biggest and popular industries on the world, you should be prepared for anything that could happen. But this unexpected success he got makes me optimistic that he's a genuinely decent guy that is just overstrained with all that. That he already contacted lawyers could simply be a sign that someone already took legal actions against him. That wouldn't suprise me since a lot of people payed A LOT of money for this game. But i don't wanna speculate to much, time will show how this is going to end. I hope good.

@dominicthegamingnerd8650

4 жыл бұрын

War is gonna break out in the survival simulator game community if one more highly popular gaming channel makes a video uncertain about whats gonna happen in Day of Dragons

@Spinoterror31896

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah look at all those steam games.

@maain9474

4 жыл бұрын

Loyal gaming beaver fan!

@shreyjain3197

4 жыл бұрын

have u written a book in the comment section?

@Patrick3183

4 жыл бұрын

John Cena lol calm down

Beaves: alright time to make this video Also beaves: *Oh my god, these are dark blue, not black!* Me:............ What?

To be honest, I have never watched a video of yours before. That being said, I have extreme respect for you after this video. THIS is how a content creator needs to react to this situation, especially after supporting a game. The fact that you admit that you did no prior research and then present both sides fairly and equally is great. You bring up a lot of good points and the video is well done. Thank you for addressing it and being honest. I'm excited to start watching your content. Cheers.

So just making something clear, as someone who is also making a game, you need to have lawyers for literally every step pertaining to marketing, trademarking, registering, and so on. There is also national and international law that also needs to be looked into, which is also where an actual lawyer comes in.

@SilvaDreams

4 жыл бұрын

Not to mention hiring people will require a lawyer to write up proper contracts... Or you end up dealing with the shit Dondi did with the Isle when one guy decided to leave and set the game back two years as he walked away with the game code.

Jao: "This is why developers don't get in touch with their communities." Scott Cawthon: *Cough*

There are so many red flags on Day of Dragons.. i have a hard time trusting they will deliver, guess we’ll have to wait on the Beta to get some clarity

@cintronproductions9430

4 жыл бұрын

Hopefully this doesn't become another Mesozoica.

@Radji0086

4 жыл бұрын

The game demo was based on basicly nothing, linked up pre-fab store bought content. So either they are now doing a lot of work to make this an actual game.. or there is no game at all

@diousthomas8878

4 жыл бұрын

@@Radji0086 I'am sort of worried but this entire thing actually makes sense. It would take about 2 weeks for Jao to hire someone people to help his project, it's also safe to assume that he was not ready for the success of the Kickstarter and also because of the people's expectations to the game itself. Lawyers actually make sense because I don't remember but something happened with Dondi and a staff member and it lead to a piss poor case so it makes sense. However I don't like the behavior of theirs but it could probably all be due to stress.

@Radji0086

4 жыл бұрын

Dious Thomas I have really strong doubts.. let’s forget everything the devs said so far and take a hard look at whats going on here: 1 or 2 Guys who start a kickstarter campaign for a game that can be made in 48hrs (!) based on store bought assets. Promote it as a 2year epic dragon game project with a great future, make $500k+ by accident(?) and suddenly turn all defensive and silent. I would be surprised if we see any Beta at all

@ItsARandomDragon

4 жыл бұрын

Well idk, i hope it all turns allright but from what you are telling me it seems to go abit under the expectations if y'know what i mean

*Teach me the way of using Google search to make games* That's my dream but I feel like I'm too dumb to get coding. Y'know, biotech major but programming dunce, not a good combination in my opinion...

@azela1063

4 жыл бұрын

Its depend on the the game you want to create like 2D or 3D. Some program for coding python, cc+ and so much more for creating a game you can go in unreal engine. Some steps for creating a game 1- Idea ,some art concepts of your game, the story ( really important ),the logo. Ex: realistic, map in the desert, the story of the man and his sheep. 2- make a map in unreal engine or other program, make the models, make the menu of your game... 3- the texture, the painting, animating your model. Program: maya (not free) blender (free) zbrush( not free) substance painter ( not free). 4- coding ...

@boogerhead199

4 жыл бұрын

You felt the need to throw in a little brag, didnt you? Still, impressive though i heard biotech was pretty competitive

@shannonf101

4 жыл бұрын

Tbh unity is pretty straight forward. The Unity website has these tutorial program like thing to show the basics. :D I suck at code and was able to do a bit.

@azela1063

4 жыл бұрын

@@shannonf101 oh yeah true i forgot about that one 😁

@johnbastion747

4 жыл бұрын

Unity has a block building for those who wants to get to the game making first

Thank you so much for discussing this trough and bringing your own opinions onto the table. I think its going to also have an impact on its own and also help to open up the things that IGP tried in his own video. Day of Dragon's Discord server is a mess right now because everyone are stressed, furthermore backers are scared of the developers to ban them because of their concerns for the game itself, and Jao and his team are not really helping with their act.

Beginning of IGP video: "Hey guys, I don't want to defame the dev or the game but...." *crime music kicks in in the back ground*

"How do you even start something, like this?" By talking about your pants, I guess. Seriously though, I think *all* of this controversy could be avoided if they just gave us *screenshots* of the dragons they're working on. He doesn't need to make a video showing him work, just show us screenshots of the finished or partially finished dragons and/or map. Maybe even a gif of the dragon doing basic animations. I honestly don't think we're asking for much, but he makes it seem like we're asking for his first born son to be sacrificed to Cthulhu.

@whoahanant

4 жыл бұрын

Well the dragons that are replacing the 3 place holders are being made by a modeler who was only just hired this month so I don't think they have alot to even share on that aspect either. It's really bad timing that this drama comes out the month he has hired his modeler. Because both him and the modeler said that his contract didn't start until some time in October (this month). They should just show what they have so far though, even if its not finished. But from a digital artist's perspective I can imagine showing a half made model could cause more issues, alot of people judge art even when it's still in sketching phase. And modeling, oof, that stuff takes a long freakin time and it might only look like a basic lizard blob at the moment. Like clay modeling, it always looks blobby and weird until they actually put the details on. But yeah they should give some photos or maybe just teaser pics of it if they can.

@elvingearmasterirma7241

4 жыл бұрын

@@whoahanant Even a basic lizard blob will help to quell some fears and anger. They can critique it to hell and back, but at least it shows that something is happening. (I know it sucks to have your work torn apart but ya know, its something you learn to shrug off.)

Lawyers are because some people will sue for anything. that's usually why you hire a lawyer when you win the lottery and such. some silly cases will win. its just in case. i agree on clarification though, but hes shown a lot

@SilvaDreams

4 жыл бұрын

Not to mention when he is hiring people to work, he is going to need contracts and someone should NEVER try to write a contract himself or let the person they are hiring toss down a contract... Dondi from The Isle found that out the hard way and it set the game back years.

0:00 Lol, I didn't expected him to start talking about the color of his jeans. XD

It was actually called “consistent inconsistency’s” Love you beaves 👍👍👍😂 ©

Have you checked out Path of Titans? I love how they practically livestream their work every day and show off their progress all the time

@ryaquaza3offical

4 жыл бұрын

Not to mention how they handle backer rewards, explain their future plans and how much they communicate with their fans, PoT is basically a role model for games in developing imo

@anntan9913

4 жыл бұрын

Ryaquaza 1 Exactly! And quite honestly as someone who’s currently studying to be a game developer myself it’s just so nice to actually watch the whole process go down, it’s just such a pleasant learning experience to kind of just...Sponge it up by just studying what they do, it’s kinda like a live demo if you’re trying to learn this stuff and I love it.

@dirandrous7682

4 жыл бұрын

*FUCKING CUTE PLATYHISTRIX!!!!*

@maiyiayangs8670

4 жыл бұрын

@@dirandrous7682 WE NEED TO FUCKING PLAY THAT CUTE ASS CREATURE

@derpiekittie17

4 жыл бұрын

@@maiyiayangs8670 eehhh that's the bad part. We may not be able to play as Platyhistrix they said, because it's apparently to small and it might just be made a AI creature, buuut we dunno yet so Hope's up I guess. **CUZ I WANT THAT LIZARD FROG***

While I agree that it's possible that this was just a passion project that blew out of proportion, that still doesn't explain or excuse the way Jao has been handling all of this. His behavior has been nothing short of unprofessional, unreasonable, and toxic. I've seen multiple people banned from the DoD discord for asking questions about these concerns, and they were being completely polite!

Times like these really make me wish Totalbiscuit was still around 🥺

Beaver: Posts video talking about DoD Jao five minutes later after banning Beaver: Gone, reduced to atoms

@LoinkLoink

4 жыл бұрын

Did he really get banned?

@Quincy-xp4kh

4 жыл бұрын

Not as far as I can tell, the DoD discord community seem to be less reactive to it

@the_triggered_pachy8696

4 жыл бұрын

@@LoinkLoink just checked hes still in there

When it comes to these, animal survival games, the same stuff happens always :/ knew it

@kittyfiend

4 жыл бұрын

This is something I've never understood. Just why? Why don't we really see honest to goodness large scale animal-based games? Are they not profitable in the long-run or what.

@Spinoterror31896

4 жыл бұрын

@@kittyfiend Sadly, they're really not. Even fighting games struggle to maintain an audience, which is why fighting games are considered niche. That said, now picture the difficulty in making sure people will play a game to control dinosaurs or dragons. A goose messing around for the lol's, sure...but a dragon or dinosaur game, and people ask if this is serious (of course not us, but for the casuals yeah).

You exactly said what I think of the game. We're in a grey zone. I think the only thing we can do is hope and wait

@carktheshark

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. I probably spent $30 on the game and I didn't even know about the drama since I'm not really on Discord. I was just waiting for my early access and then this stuff comes out

@ceindrathejiiva

4 жыл бұрын

@@carktheshark Yeahh sadly we can't do much than wait for now :/

Honest talk? *Surprise*

@defnotnath4nie129

4 жыл бұрын

**surprise*

Any game that hides content behind pay walls is bound for failure to me, I do have hope for DOD but that isn't fair and is far to damn sketchy...

There is already a game where you can fly dragons around and eat other things, it's called Ark.

First video in a while with 0 ads, thanks ;)

I’ll be interested in seeing how this goes beaver, I hope you keep us in loop. I hope this works and I love the idea of day of dragons, looks awesome!

Beavers: Titles video “An honest talk of Day of Dragons” Jao: *bans Beavers from the disc*

@avatar120pl3

4 жыл бұрын

Did he really? I am not on that discord so I can't check

@LTDragoonIII

4 жыл бұрын

@@avatar120pl3 no he didn't people need to stop commenting it. If it happens then comment but it hasn't and people are confusing others.

@lauriobaptista7210

4 жыл бұрын

Guys you realise this is a joke

I got banned from the discord for asking about when we could see a beta and even asked if he planned to show a preview about some elemental dragons soon I got a heated text saying I was accusing him of running a scam when I never said that only asked basic questions and then got banned without a chance to defend myself

@alexandraaly3310

4 жыл бұрын

Jao is responding very toxic tbh :( hopefully all this will calm down soon...

very good video thankyou so much for being so level headed i hope jao really sees this and listens to you genuinely

Thank you for posting this video Beaver! I had no clue about this situation until this, so I really appreciate it. :)

Path of Titans: *livestreams creation of models and programming, constantly shares information with backers* KZreadrs: Hmm, might be a scam Day of Dragons: *buys stock assets and promises dragons* KZreadrs: OH SHIT DRAGONS *collectively flush 500k down toilet*

Day of Dragons already has a 3-D model for one of their custom dragons circulating around, now, done by Jia Hao, a rather fantastic 3-D artist. They are hiring a full orchestra to studio record a soundtrack for the game. Considering the amount of interest the game is generating, they need to make sure that they have enough money to maintain servers and staff. The base game is said to be the initial 3 dragons plus another 20-30 dragons, all at the base price of $20. Those 30 dragons being DLC is not an accurate thing. There will be additional dragons added into the game and sold as DLC to help maintain and continue developing the game. There has been quite a bit of detail provided to the community about where all of the money from the Kickstarter is being allocated. There is no PR team for the game, just a handful of devs and moderators. An early beta is going testing out the servers for stress testing and have been going well, showing some good, solid server performance. I very much agree, that if people have concerns and don't want to buy the game or join the community, that's okay. Wait and see, the game will be released in early access November 21st. The acid spitter dragon is an incentive to anyone who missed the Kickstarter and want the game. To avoid Kickstarter backers feeling left out, they are given the option of paying an extra $9.99 to get that dragon in addition to their other exclusive dragons that were detailed out in the Kickstarter. There have been a lot of people that didn't join the community until recently who have been bringing a lot of negativity and causing issues for the community. The Kickstarters who have been there since joining have all been paying attention as the developers have been very transparent with what's going on. I hope this helps enlighten anyone who might have some questions about what's going on with the project. All the best, guys and gals!

@dragonnasxavier3473

4 жыл бұрын

Oh I forgot, they have also hired the guy who did the sound effects for Subnautica to do so for this game.

@dontatmeev3r

4 жыл бұрын

Source??

@dragonnasxavier3473

4 жыл бұрын

@@dontatmeev3r Source? Being active in the community discord for several weeks, reading all the releases made by the developers, and listening to Q&As.

@Destroyerz117

4 жыл бұрын

paid dlc for early access games in general is a big no no and you should expect backlash if you try something like that (look at Ark and scorched Earth for example) In any case I'm not following the situation to closely and I think they cancelled that idea?

@dragonnasxavier3473

4 жыл бұрын

@@Destroyerz117 So far I am uncertain whether the acid spitter dragon will be available only as preorder incentive (included with the base $20 price of the game and available to Kickstarter backers as an option for $9.99 more so they can have all the exclusives if they so desire) or whether it will just be made available as a $9.99 DLC for everyone at any time. Based on what I've heard, I'm leaning toward the former, meaning it will only be an extra charge for people who have KS backed and already own the game through that. However I am not 100% on that.

its awesome for you to drop a video on the same day as my birthday makes my day 10 times better

One of my degrees was in game design. I took a couple of classes on 3D animation using 3DS Max, the same program Bethesda, EA, Activism, Bioware, etc. use to create their 3D models. Each class we had to make MULTIPLE models, animate them, skin them, rig them, etc. A class is 15 weeks. So, in 4 months we had to make 2 full models (rigged, skinned, animated, etc.) and several practice models (complete models that don't need full animations or skinning). For someone who knows what they are doing and doesn't have other classes... You could easily make 30 dragons in a year. Especially with all the copy and pasting abilities in the program. Base model, make numerous copies of it, add extra to each model to make it unique, animations all can be copied over from one... Saves a lot of time. Then on top of this the programming.... For a game like this, or at least the plan of it, no one programmer can do. I mean, they could, but it would take a LOT of time. No programmer would ever want to do this on their own... They would hire help. And I had to make sound for one of my game design classes. Sure, you can find sounds online to use, but for basic things. Like animal sounds, room ambience, walking, etc. For more unique sounds, like for dragons, you can't buy that. You have to make it and edit it yourself. For those who never been in a game design class, take one if your university offers any. The college I went to had a huge gaming department and many of the professors worked for huge gaming companies. Like my animation professor worked at Bethesda, EA, Activism, and some smaller companies. So, very legit. Several of my professors owned their own small game companies. The amount of time, knowledge, and just everything involved can't be done by one person. Not for big time games. Maybe games like original Mario, yes, one person can make that in a couple of days. But nothing like these 3D, multiple animations, large map, etc. games. So, yeah, this is definitely a scam. If it was legit he would be hiring help. Because if he was truly trying to make this game he'd be crying if he was on his own. But, even scarier? My stalker sounds a lot like this guy and my stalker also claims to be making some game and one of their early lies about me was that I could never make a game like their because my art was "ugly." Their newest lie is I "trace" my art... They also make up lies about my dog... Anyway, anyone who acts like the stalker who is trying to MURDER me and has caused me to have to legally change my name and live in hiding is definitely a terrible person. Don't trust this guy! www.watchdominion.com I also am a major dragon fan... Look up "The Vegan Dragon." Here's my website: www.thevegandragon.info Why did he have to be doing this to a game I want to see come to fruition?!

Let me just point this out. 3 dragon models. Shouldnt cost. $12,000 dollars. An average 3d modeller with the necessary tools can create their own high poly 4k texture 3d models in a solid 100 hours or less of cumulative work doing said modelling. 3 dragons, 300 hours. Who the hell is he paying $40 an hour to 3d model? It sounds to me like he planned on raising $12,000 to make 3 dragons at roughly $1,000 a piece, and pocketing the rest, but now he's got way more money so hes trying to figure out how to convince people that what he's promissing is really expensive. That way he can walk away with 100s of thousands of dollars while we are none the wiser. Edit: Also for anyone who may try to use model rigging and animation as reasoning for the extra cost. Let me remind you. The kickstarter was to raise $12,000 to pay a 3d modeller for 3 dragon MODELS. Not for models AND rigging AND animation. Even then the cost still shouldnt be $12,000 dollars. For reference, AAA game devs typically spend around $80,000 dollars for concept art, modelling, rigging, textures, animation, animation sequencing, and programming FOR THE ENTIRE GAME. Yeah... all of that, for the entire game, for a AAA title. $80,000 price tag. And hes spending an entire 8th of that on 3 models? Really? I call bullshit.

I've asked a couple of KZreadrs that support this game and asked this question via comment "What are your thoughts on Day of Dragons and the issues concerning it's legitimacy?" I'm glad I didn't have to ask you. Because this seems very suspicious. And this is just how I feel but anthomia rubs me the wrong way. I cannot stand people taking advantage and getting over on others I agree IGP's video at times does seem bias but at the same time he points out very valid reasons. There are alot of contradictions from what joa has said in different videos. I will say it can be a case of inexperience dealing with people as far as being a new dev but he should be able to show proof. Sure there is a chance he is over his head but he would do better just by saying that. I'd like to see this game to succeed but from what I've seen and researched it's not looking good. I also agree what you are saying James.

@Spinoterror31896

4 жыл бұрын

Anthomia is part of the youtube algorithm problem. Even when I get myself a new device with nothing on it, I can't get him off my youtube recommendations! Dx It's clear anthomia and many other tubers shill out.

@whoahanant

4 жыл бұрын

Well anth hasn't made his video on this yet and he gains nothing from backing the game either. Both Anth and Beaver blindly did the same thing. Although he has clickbaity videos he hasn't really done anything more than anyone else. If anything Anth is the only one who is left who can get an interview with Jao on this whole topic unless he also gets banned for something.

@diousthomas8878

4 жыл бұрын

Anthomnia blindly backed the game up so he is in the same situation as Beaver. And if I'am not mistaken an old former Subnautica developer named Simon so yeah it seems that he didn't know about this thing.

@kittyfiend

4 жыл бұрын

@@Spinoterror31896 When I remove a video on the mobile app, it gives me the option to stop seeing content from the user. I did this with a couple of youtubers and haven't seen their videos in my feed since.

To this day I’m still seeing kids asking beaver if he’s gonna play the game again or if he’s gonna do a giveaway

I love that he used the same back round music from the Little Nightmares theory videos!

That audio drop reminds me of 2015 gaming beaver hasbro toy reviews

I think you start with the 3 dragons and kick starter dragons then give more over time so start with what you promised then add updates to the game as needed

Thank you for doing this, its so good to hear how you look at these things. The game maker needs to release a press statement giving progress and deadlines. its not hard to do. I fear people have been diddled here

This is a more passive way to describe what’s going on. Good job my man and I think your right about inexperienced because $12,000 is all he wanted and he gets half a million US and people who really care about the future of the game and that put pressure on anyone

What I strongly dislike is his team when answering questions about the kickstarter rewards, they act as if it's our "privilege" which would be true if it wasn't money spent from the backers. At that point with the project, when making promises in the business standpoint the backers are your consumers. Yes they support the game but that support goes both ways. He has 500k, he was supposed to bring forth 3 dragons and now his team is handling things very poorly. They need to just release a quick statement of clarifications, probably apologize to how everything has been so unprofessional, stop bickering with trolls in the server (they do it too often, it's bad), and overall just focus on the original goal. Get something solid first then build up. To make matters worse they kick excuse after excuse. I had a mod state that they don't have to give anyone beta access when... their kickerstarter packages were promoted for beta access as a main seller. If you do not "have to give" us beta access that we paid for, then you don't have to get consumer support. And while I understand the dev wasn't expecting so much then he shouldn't have added nonstop tier rewards. You know at that point you're going to get money. He would have gotten more if the kickerstarter date was longer. As much as he probably hates the word but to me he got greedy along with his ambition, losing focus on what people were backing for in the first place. He CHOSE to keep adding tiers to get more money so he should have made proper preparations asap to handle the backlash when consumers feel him and his team are not being transparent. They have half a million, half a million to go into the game and the team excuses unprofessional-ism and rash behaviors on their end. What will be this game's downfall if not checked, will be his own team if they do not get it together and stop acting on impulsive emotion rather than strategic and business planning decision making. (I'm aware they're human so don't come at me about that lmfao but they need to step up to the plate and quickly learn). Oh and threatening and holding "we can take your beta key away" over people's heads is also a huge red flag. I seen a mod or two elude to it a few times. Also what is concerning is Icy's animations. I believe Jao said the animations he has in DOD are original animations. This would imply him or his whole team made the animations themselves. But I'm not 100% on this so don't take that as fact. If this is true though, the animations are similar if not almost nearly identical. That's another major red flag as that would counter what he stated.

If approximately 12 000 people backed it and they raised approximately 500 000 then each person donated APPROXIMATELY 41 dollars and 75 cents

I like how you speak your mind and not read a script . it actually gets your point across to the viewer

Lol the BestInSlot Beaver Swrve thing again! That was my content to Frontier Fatal Attraction Lives on

This was a much needed video. It brings honest concerns to the table in a straight forward way and addresses all concerned parties. My problem with IGP was he did not show ANY process to his "evidence" and took many, MANY things out of context to suit his needs. Beaver addresses the concerns, he speaks for the community, and even admits he should have done more research. I for one and disappointed in how IGP handled it. It felt like a lot of finger pointing and underhanded scare tactics to cause unrest in a community. Whether the game succeeds or fails is on Jao, and I hope it succeeds. (I will admit I backed a large amount of money into the game.) Concerns need to be brought in an unbiased, honest manner; not with zoomed in images of just snipits of information rather than the whole section. I saw no process included in IGP's video to back his evidence. The fact remains that there are concerns, and Beaver is right that Jao needs to get a PR and an Accountant, but everything anyone says (Including Jao) needs to be taken with a grain of salt, and for those of us who backed the game we need to remember why we backed it and not let scare tactics ruin our excitement.

I'm going to be passive and see how things turn out, then I'll make my judgements. I really love the concept and I hope things will be honest and great! Thanks for addressing this!

Brilliant video! I honestly hope that the game turns out for the better, but here's to waiting rip

As much as I love anthomnia, he is naive and too excitable about anything and everything. He needs to be more careful with who he supports and promotes. I don't want this to blow up in his face bc he was excited about dragons.

We've got your back, we've got this game's back, we've got everything's back

Glad your covering this soon as info came out.

I like how you are unbiased and it seems like you want to help Jao instead of putting more pressure. Thank you, Beaver. I agree about what you said about IGP's video.

Video about the DoD beta build! So much better now

Me: Does this sound like a horrer movie cuz the music Beaver: Add the scary music!!!!!!!

omg ive watched so many videos, just hearing a voice. your appearance is really nice too xD im surprised sorry nothing bad from this or anything just genuinely impressed by your appearenca and ur aura xD

Thank you for clearing that up for us Beaver, I am now in the know

That moment a talk about a game gives you tips for when you become a game developer

@jurassicbread4279

4 жыл бұрын

PatDoesKZread ._. oooh are you going to develop a game???

@ImmortalGene

4 жыл бұрын

@@jurassicbread4279 eventually, once i have the software and skills to do so, I have my own concept art and such but that's about it as of now

@diousthomas8878

4 жыл бұрын

@@ImmortalGene What game are you going to do man. I probably suggest you start out with a simple parkour game.

@ImmortalGene

4 жыл бұрын

@@diousthomas8878 going to be making a mmorpg kinda game, but I'll definitely start small and work my way up to it

@diousthomas8878

4 жыл бұрын

@@ImmortalGene Sounds good.

Next video title is: I've been banned on the day of dragon discord server 👁️🔎

@larrygaroth9773

4 жыл бұрын

James Morrison Why would he be? lol he was really nice about it and didn’t twist info like IGP

@jamesmorrison2670

4 жыл бұрын

@@larrygaroth9773 it's a joke

@borga6566

4 жыл бұрын

@@larrygaroth9773 Twist info? How did IGP twist info? He basically summarized the document containing all of the raised concerns about DoD.

@BlueKitzune03

4 жыл бұрын

I asked a lot of questions in the dod discord and i have yet to be banned. Stop thinking everyone Will be banned for asking questions.

@jamesmorrison2670

4 жыл бұрын

@@BlueKitzune03 it a joke lol. You the one taking it serious 😂

I haven’t backed it, but I hope he does deliver with this game.

+respect for no ads

Rule 1 of game design: Design the game, first.

Wow, I’m impressed that James is making a serious review about a game he tried out. Well done, James Beavers. Love your goofiness every day but this is a nice palate cleanser.

i was sick while watching this video and i felt better great job, keep it up!

I love the tranquil music in the background. It makes the video less intense. He also protects the creator, while also standing by the views of other people. This is why I love watching James. He knows when to be serious and when to be comedic.

Can you check out this game again, its a had a huge overhaul and seems to be going in the right direction

And dondi gets flak for being “unprofessional”. But at least he gets stuff done when it comes to development of his game!

@irondragon1785

4 жыл бұрын

NeuroGuy but remember, this recode is the size of the whole game, and it will allow for bigger and better things, like deinosuchus and better combat etc

@irondragon1785

4 жыл бұрын

Ryaquaza 1 But he shows screenshots and streams here and there, I would rather have a rude and brash dick of a productive dev than one who is secretive as hell

Great Video, I backed the kickstarter and am looking forward to what it will become, thank you for being so respectful about this whole thing you did a great job and IGP should take a note from this video on how he should have made his.

I was so excited when I first found out about this game, I just hope all of this is fixed and that the game can still come out.

The Stomping Lands gets mentioned and I instantly groan. Man I learned my lesson that day. Its why I never give my money to these projects until they show some legitimate worth. It also sounds like these guys desperately need to hire a PR manager.

And this is James being serious? I love it

I just realized what IGPs name stands for, never thought it would come from beaver

I just found about this today... wow this is deep. And here I am, battling with funds and stuff making my own game knowing people will feel doubtful once they see my location [Nigeria] and someone is being sketchy with all the support he got. Really really gets me in a bad mood. We can only wait to see what happens I guess.

Last time I was this early you were playing pokemon x and y competitive

@cintronproductions9430

4 жыл бұрын

You think he's gonna play Sword or Shield?

@themark2medic216

4 жыл бұрын

Cintrón Productions if we ask we shall receive

@monkfish2047

4 жыл бұрын

Haha!

Considering how Jao is admittedly the ONLY coder on this project, it's laughable to say there's a Dev team.

This is why your such a good person you can be so reasonable and kind and how you took this topic with such a way *looking for the right words* your just amazing and helping thx for cleaning up this mess love ipg's video but you did a better job at this then igp

Oh goodness, I really hope that everything turns out ok, I was/am really excited for this game, i really hope it doesnt all fall to ruin, I've been dreaming about a game like this since I was a little kid

@diousthomas8878

4 жыл бұрын

Don't worry it probably will turn out fine. There may be hard turns but it will probably end up good.

you know its bad when the lead dev of the isle clownes on DoD