An Honest Comparison between the Bambu Lab P1S and the A1! Features - AMS Units and Noise Levels!

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Let me show you how the Bambu Lab P1S compares to the A1. I'll talk about the ease of setup, compare features, ease of use, operation, noise, AMS units, waste management and give some final thoughts.
Intro - 0:00
1. Ease of Setup - A1 - 1:23
2. Ease of Setup - P1S - 2:12
3. Feature Comparison - 4:58
4. Ease of Use - 10:04
5. Operation - 13:40
6. Noise Levels (dB) - 15:22
7. AMS Units - 20:19
8. Waste Management (Poop) - 30:59
9. Final Thoughts - 33:43
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  • @xaviergall2233
    @xaviergall22338 күн бұрын

    I have a p1p that I upgraded to a p1s. I just bought myself an AI too lol. This video was perfect for me to binge while waiting for it.

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    8 күн бұрын

    I'm glad you enjoyed it! You're going to love that A1!

  • @Arkhangel99
    @Arkhangel994 күн бұрын

    For me, the A1 got the nod due to the ease of switching out nozzles. With AMS lite and being able to switch from 0.2 to 0.4 in about a minute, it has made just simple printing fun without all the hassles of changing filaments, bringing out the toolbox when there is a clogged nozzle, or sweating breaking something. The printer heads are cheap enough i keep a few on hand to switch out if there is an issue instead of spending valuable time trying clean a clog.

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    4 күн бұрын

    @Arkhangel99 Absolutely! It is so quick to change nozzles you don't have to worry about it.

  • @NiTye357
    @NiTye35715 сағат бұрын

    A useful detailed comparison, thanks.

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    15 сағат бұрын

    You are very welcome!

  • @meanman6992
    @meanman69928 күн бұрын

    Purchased a P1S a couple months ago, love it. The deciding factor for me was the P1S being enclosed and I nylon

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    8 күн бұрын

    Sounds like you made the right call!

  • @mistermiagi4552

    @mistermiagi4552

    8 күн бұрын

    Did you notice slight ringing in the X axis? That was my issue with the P1S

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    8 күн бұрын

    @@mistermiagi4552 I did not.

  • @MrBiggs-wu2kf

    @MrBiggs-wu2kf

    3 күн бұрын

    I need to print nylon. Are your nylon prints from your P1S consistent?

  • @MrBiggs-wu2kf
    @MrBiggs-wu2kf3 күн бұрын

    Thank you for this video.

  • @notchipotle
    @notchipotle8 күн бұрын

    I wish they do a refresh on all the X and P series, the P1 series screen feels super old compared to the newer A series

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    8 күн бұрын

    Totally agree!

  • @gramcreative
    @gramcreative8 күн бұрын

    Great video with lots of useful information. Similarly to you, in the summer I run into humidity issues but having my setup in the basement even with the AC on I sit around 64% humidity. I found that with the AMS system with enough silica gel packets I can keep it relatively low. One day will add the A1 to my collection but for now I'm eyeing the P1S.

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    8 күн бұрын

    Exactly! I don't think I mentioned it in the video, but I do find I use the P1S more, simply because I can look and see that the humidity is relatively low inside the AMS. With the AMS lite, I have no idea if my filament is wet, unless I've just dried it and popped the spools on.

  • @jmp7624
    @jmp76248 күн бұрын

    Great video as always and great comparisons! I really love my P1S and I'm so glad I listened to you and got into the Bambu Eco system. I usually don't mind tinkering with stuff but its SO much nicer to actually spend more time printing and less time fixing the printer! I've had some minor issues but everything will eventually have problems. I'm sitting around 600 print hours on the P1S and almost every issue until recently, has been from a setting I overlooked. I did have a Wi-Fi issue once but never had it again. I'm glad I got the P1S but I do really want the A1 a lot more after getting the A1 mini in the other day. They both have their pros and cons but my mini is so quiet! The purge reflector threw me off for a second on my first print, I wasn't expecting it to just launch the poop across the room like a monkey at the zoo haha. Its definitely really hard to determine the best printer in the Bambu ecosystem though and I think thats a good thing! The X1C has its benefits with the Lidar, camera, screen, and higher temps for a larger variety of filaments but its just so expensive. The P1S has so much going for it being an enclosed Core XY printer and setting up a mini print farm with it is super easy when you can technically fit like 12 printers without AMS's on a 48"x72" adjustable shelving unit. Also being able to print higher temp materials like ABS, ASA is great. Bambu says its capable of printing PA and PC but I'm not exactly sure what upgrade is needed for that when most Nylon's want the bed to be 120C. The A1 gives you the same print volume and basically the same quality that prints 90% of what the average user will print for quite a bit cheaper than the P1S while being significantly quieter too. And the A1 mini is the perfect printer for anyone just getting into the hobby or wanting to pick up an amazing yet affordable printer for their kids or family members. Even though I had larger printers like the SV03, the vast majority of my prints were and still are under 180mm. The quick swap nozzles on the A1 is a game changer though and hopefully Bambu switches their Core XY printers over to that with new releases. I do think the P1P should be discontinued though, the A1 mini has the same print quality and size for minimum $200 less. And upgrading it to a P1S costs more than just getting the P1S. its funny that you mentioned how long it too to assemble your Prusa, my first printer was an Anet a8 that was a Prusa clone and it took me a good 4-6 hours to assemble it only to find out the control board was bad lol. The A1 mini was faster to assemble than my P1S since it was like 6 screws or something to mount stuff on but I don't think the P1S took me more than 15 but I didn't have the AMS. It was about an hour to start printing because of the firmware update, calibration, and having to setup an account. Anyway, a lot of great information here and I really wish I had this video before buying my first Bambu printer! It wouldn't have made much of a difference since I went to buy the A1 combo on the day of the recall lol but if I was starting over right now, this would have been so helpful! I can't wait to see the other videos you make with these printers.

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    8 күн бұрын

    Thank you so much Joseph! Tons of good info in this comment! Happy printing!

  • @NWGR
    @NWGR9 күн бұрын

    Thanks for this. I already had an A1 Mini and bought a full size A1 because of the sale. No AMS on either unit though. I absolutely love the A1 series. I'm hoping for bambu's next gen P series they implement the A1 tech like the better nozzle cleaning, easier nozzle swaps, dynamic flow calibration, etc. Basically what I'd like is a core x/y A1. Catch you on the next one!

  • @jmp7624

    @jmp7624

    8 күн бұрын

    I just got the A1 mini to add to my P1S and the dynamic flow calibration is really nice, I wish the P1S had it too. I'm eager to see the upgrades Bambu makes with their next gen printers but I really hope they increase the bed size lol. I was used to printing on a 300x300x400 and 350x350x400 mm print area lol. I really love the A1 mini for what it is though!

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    8 күн бұрын

    You are very welcome! It'll be interesting to see the next printer they release. It probably will be an amalgamation of all these newer technologies rolled up into one.

  • @E.J.Addler
    @E.J.Addler5 күн бұрын

    I got an A1 non-combo during the sale to get my foot in the door with 3d printing. Have only had it a week and have over 30 hours printing (to include more technical filaments like PA6-CF). Didn't want to blow my budget because I already have intentions of getting their new rumored "flagship" printer that is slated to release later this year.

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    5 күн бұрын

    Welcome to the fun!!

  • @earthsgrip
    @earthsgrip8 күн бұрын

    Great video, FYI there is some pretty jarring clipping or resonance panning over to the left from your mic. With headphones it is quite noticeable. But great video, and timely!

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    8 күн бұрын

    Thanks! I'll take a listen on some headphones to see if I can figure it out :)

  • @earthsgrip

    @earthsgrip

    8 күн бұрын

    I noticed it by around the 3 minute mark. Again, top quality content, just finished listening

  • @Immolate62
    @Immolate629 күн бұрын

    The mini is the same as the A1 with a smaller bed. My P1S is approaching 3000 hours and I've replaced the print head once. The only real problem is that it lost my wifi network and I could never get it to work again. I finally got a mesh router and plugged it in to my ISP modem and could get the P1S to work with that. I used my phone's mobile hotspot in the intervening months. Not a common problem though from what I can tell so not a deciding factor. It is my go-to printer. Also have two A1's with AMS Lite and one mini. The A1's do a good job but they are limited by the moving bed which makes tall thin items harder. Bed has slightly more real-estate because there is no exclusion zone like the P1S. P1S is 10% faster. AMS Lite is better than regular AMS. A1's do have more problems breaking down, especially if you use a lot of silks and multi-color filaments like my wife does. I've replaced hot end heaters twice, which is a bit of a pain. I'm often having to clear nozzles on the A1s. We must have a dozen of the things lying around. I've had to replace one extruder. I replaced one of the beds when the new bed shipped, but that one's bed had died a week before the replacement came in. The other is still using the existing bed. We'll swap that out if we ever need to, but for now it works fine. ATM my older A1 is having a z-height problem that I'm working on and the other isn't heating the hot end again. I asked my wife to call in a ticket as I'm tired of paying for equipment failures and want to see if Bambu can fix something simple. My wife beats the A1's like a rented mule, so I think her use profile is probably close to a print farm, but my opinion is that if I were going to build a print farm, it would be with P1Ps since enclosures don't work well in print farms (nobody needs an opaque printer with a glass door hanging out.) The mini is too new for me to declare anything, but with maybe a hundred hours on it, it's been a champ.

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    9 күн бұрын

    Thank you so much for all the great info. Sounds like you are really putting these printers through the paces!

  • @jmp7624

    @jmp7624

    8 күн бұрын

    3000 hours is a lot, you must be selling quite a bit of prints lol! I had that issue with the WIFI on my P1S about a month after getting it and I had to unbind the printer and basically reset it. If getting a new router fixed it for you, its usually something to do with the saved connection settings to that specific device getting corrupted. The P1S is just suing an ESP32 board with 802.11n or WIFI 4 now and its pretty limited hardware as it is so something could have gotten overloaded and corrupted the connection. I see this happen a lot with other devices too and the easiest/quickest fix is to change the WIFI password to the router and reconnect the printer. Then you can change it back so all of your other devices pick up the connection again and then reconnect the P1S again. Worst case you might need to change the SSID instead of the password but its the same process and you can change back after it resets saved data from the old SSID and password for that specific device. I don't know the specific reason behind this since I never looked into it, but I think it has something to do with the router associating the credentials with the MAC address of the device. Since something got jumbled when you forget the network and reconnect, the router still tries to pick up the profile tied to the devices MAC address and changing the SSID or password temporarily resets that and allows for a brand new connection if that makes sense.

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    8 күн бұрын

    @@jmp7624 Thanks Joseph!

  • @Immolate62

    @Immolate62

    7 күн бұрын

    @@jmp7624 I've printed a lot of Dungeon Blocks for my other hobby, but typically I like bigger and more challenging projects. For example, I just finished a riser for my P1S with 33 plates using ASA and PETG-CF which has probably added another 150 hours, so it adds up. As far as the WiFi thing, I'm not as knowledgeable as you by a long shot, but I did a lot of research and tried everything I found with no success other than using a different network entirely. I don't recall the specifics, but the conclusion I arrived at based on someone's suggestion is that there is a parameter in the ISP-supplied device that you could change by going into the Xfinity web page that was not available from the device interface itself. The person showed pictures of the screen. I tried that, but unfortunately, Comcast had removed the ability to modify the parameter at some point, so I couldn't implement the fix. It was at that point that I started using my phone's hotspot, burning up my data allocation every month without fail. Then I got a three unit mesh system to facilitate better signal to the back of the house and the garage and immediately put the P1S on the mesh without issue. I never had a similar issue with the A1's or the QIDI, or the K1 Max or the Kobra 2 Max.

  • @PaSu_FPV
    @PaSu_FPV8 күн бұрын

    Rally nice comparison! Can you tell me where you got the printable mods for the P1S?

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    8 күн бұрын

    The AMS riser is here - makerworld.com/en/models/19535#profileId-19420 The Panda Touch frame/mount is here - makerworld.com/en/models/189190#profileId-208631

  • @jz2188
    @jz21883 күн бұрын

    Have been 3d printing since 2018. Have 7 printers. Got an A1, those 7 printers now doomed for replacement, the ecosystem , quality of prints and pure ease of use Bambu offers will decimate the market of all other manufacturers in this sector as they so far behind Bambu.

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    3 күн бұрын

    Totally agree!

  • @SignKraft3D
    @SignKraft3D8 күн бұрын

    Good comparison and I agree with you on some points. But, really different beasts. P1S will print PLA, including really crappy filaments (99% of the hobbyist use) all year flawlessly. Can't say the same about A1. I run a farm and I know the pains of open bed slingers, during cold months, even the best of PLA's start to warp and shift. For this reason I will choose P1S over A1 always. Not against bed slingers, just think corexy enclosed has distinct advantage. And one final thing, the heated bed cable issue they had, just wait till the bed has done 3000-4000 hours, that cable will go again. I has done for all Prusa's, all creality machines, and every other bed slinger on the plant.

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    8 күн бұрын

    I agree. Different class of printers and one is almost twice as much as the other. I've also had cable issues with my Prusa MK3. I think it was a temp sensor cable inside the bundle that broke. Took me a few days to figure that one out.

  • @riba2233

    @riba2233

    2 күн бұрын

    New cable is much better and well engineered, it will last a lifetime of a printer

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    2 күн бұрын

    @@riba2233 I sure hope so!

  • @peaceorpieces8343
    @peaceorpieces83439 күн бұрын

    Good video 👍 Im really sad i switched my a1 for the p1s during the heat bed call back. The ams lite was amazing, i had ams lite with the printer. The p1s i have no ams now and i miss it. The a1 was amazing, never had 1 print fail. The p1s has a 85% fail rate so far and is alot more difficult to problem solve and maintain. I would definitely go for the a1 over the p1s in future. My creality k1 runs circles around my p1s and was half the price. K1 print fail rate 5%

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    9 күн бұрын

    Wow! I wonder if you have a bad P1S! I rarely have problems with the P1S, aside from the little issues with the poop like I showed in the video. Otherwise it's a very solid printer. I love my A1, but I do find that I print more on the P1S (with the AMS) since it can seal in the filament and help keep it dry.

  • @peaceorpieces8343

    @peaceorpieces8343

    9 күн бұрын

    @@directedt3ch im thinking I must have because my old ender 3 is more reliable

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    9 күн бұрын

    @@peaceorpieces8343 Definitely reach out to Bambu with your problems!

  • @peaceorpieces8343

    @peaceorpieces8343

    9 күн бұрын

    @@directedt3ch will do

  • @riba2233

    @riba2233

    2 күн бұрын

    P1S should be 100% reliable, rma it

  • @veryrudeguy
    @veryrudeguy6 күн бұрын

    My A1 is struggling keeping the nose clean.. Always some strings from hotend. Even when idling there is something hanging, and when calibrating I it's some string dragging along... I might need to hear with Bambu Lab.. It likes to let some filament out after finishing job and cleaning.. So it's there just hanging

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    6 күн бұрын

    What filament are you using and at what temp?

  • @veryrudeguy

    @veryrudeguy

    5 күн бұрын

    @@directedt3ch PETG and PLA, and what ever the Bambu Labs Studio temperatures decides. Bought Bambu labs for sole reason that I won't need to deepdive into settings and calibrations

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    5 күн бұрын

    If they are bambu filaments then yes, the preset temps should work without that issue. I haven't seen such an issue on either of my printers. If it is another brand, then you may need to tweak your temps.

  • @riba2233

    @riba2233

    2 күн бұрын

    That is 100% normal, no worries.. It cleans the nozzle when necessary

  • @RAPTRS
    @RAPTRS5 күн бұрын

    Can you upgrade the camera on the p1s?

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    5 күн бұрын

    @RAPTRS No. It's less about the camera than the printer cpu/bandwidth. Many people add better external streaming cameras if they want a better video feed but that would require additional hardware and a different app to view.

  • @Orion-redx7
    @Orion-redx78 күн бұрын

    How is the print quality of the A1 to p1s?

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    8 күн бұрын

    Can't tell any difference. Both are great!

  • @gary332
    @gary3326 күн бұрын

    If I had the money ..... I would try to connect the AMS to a A1 mini or alternatively AMS LITE to an X/P. I would then disconnect the pins with a Pin Removal Tool Kit from a PC. so if someone is going to do it who has enough money let me know how okey ;)

  • @directedt3ch

    @directedt3ch

    6 күн бұрын

    That would be quite and engineering feat! The P/X series expects only one filament to the tool head whereas the A series expects 4 and then it's routed to 1. You'd have to recode all the extraction commands too.

  • @gary332

    @gary332

    6 күн бұрын

    @@directedt3ch What I actually mean is that both AMS/lite have a cable that must be inserted into your A1 X/P. this is done using a 4 pin cable. the only thing I noticed is that there is a kind of nipple on this 4 pin cable, it is positioned differently and because of this nipple you cannot, for example, plug your AMS lite into an x/p because it does not fit and this is also the case the other way around. the case. but suppose you were to turn these cables around in the correct order. Of course I don't know how many volts the AMS has, I believe 24 volts.

  • @youtubehandlesux
    @youtubehandlesux8 күн бұрын

    Both are mid, vorons are better. P1S has false marketing as well. The promotion material indicates it has geared idler wheels but in the actual machine it's smooth.

  • @riba2233

    @riba2233

    2 күн бұрын

    No, they aren't in general. Both have their pros and cons, but p1s wins overall.

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