I MIXED UP THE DRAGON CULT & COMMUNION CHURCHES!! I'M SO SORRY! ONLY REALIZED THAT AFTER THE VIDEO WAS ALREADY UP!! 🥲🥲🥲🥲

@kamantariq2513

29 күн бұрын

Unless you did it delibritly? -menacing music plays-

@Banuune

29 күн бұрын

@@kamantariq2513 Sadly not xD I re-watched my video after some time and I was just like "FUCK" when I realized it. xD .... but.. what if...

@neko3darcherychannel125

28 күн бұрын

@@Banuune No matters. You are right. De Vilsadvo Cat.

@Banuune

28 күн бұрын

Thank you! I don't know if I'm right but I definitely believe that Gransax is innocent!

Every time i'm pretty sure that everybody has covered everthing the game has to offer lore wise, somebody comes up with something nobody has noticed before. Great video. You've also got me feeling mad that all the other lore hunters say that Gransax is dead without looking into it 😂

@Banuune

2 ай бұрын

Haha! Same! Thank you for the kind words. Everything about gransax screams that he is alive, except him not moving. Glad you liked the theory ^_^

@2JOfficial

2 ай бұрын

I told Ziostorm your theory, he said "interesting".

@Banuune

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!! D:

The moment that you show them having the same weapon gave me goosebumps! I haven't watched the rest of it yet, but it has me thinking that He froze him in order to stop him from attacking the city?? Okay going to go back to watch

@Banuune

24 күн бұрын

I'm glad you liked it. I really thought hard and wanted to present Gransax in the best light possible xD So I showed all the editing skills I've learned from moxie

my first thought when i saw him was he was frozen in time

@Banuune

Ай бұрын

THANK YOU!! Same!!

@djovalearson2977

21 күн бұрын

Close! I believe he was turned to stone as that ailment is possible in the game

@Banuune

21 күн бұрын

@@djovalearson2977 the dragons are already out of stone. Like their scales are hard rocks. I think only when they die, they turn brittle and start crumbling. And if gransax was the first to attack and the other dragons were killed after, he should be just as broken as the ones in the churches but he isn't. But yeah. Something happened to him to "freeze" him in this position. Whatever that is. Hope the dlc hints at something about him

@djovalearson2977

21 күн бұрын

@@Banuune that cannot be true dragon lore in most all games never says anything about statues of mighty winged lizards obtaining life...I never read any of the Soulsborn games but that seems like a dumb aspect especially for such a great game series...(Full detail Traditional Dragon Lore)Dragons are mighty winged Lizards whom are said to be as old as time their origins is unknown but they greatly fancy wealth especially the shiny kind...they breath fire that is hot enough to melt shields as eaaily as butter Cattle and other livestock are their favorite meals which dragon slayers have utilized as bait to draw out and kill them and though beyond dangerous dragon scales and dragon talions are prized by collectors and much saught after by many an alchemist.

@memedreampotato3380

3 күн бұрын

@@djovalearson2977 Miyazaki dragons are not flesh and blood They are stone, Alive through means far beyond the understanding of mortal minds Their stone scales is what gives them the ability to live for eternity they are as ancient as time because they do not follow the rules of time they controll it Dark Souls is a good example of this as the murder of the Everlasting Dragons (True dragons) was required for the age of light and fire to start, slowly after that point more and more dragons die by the hands of mortals, by the time you get to the 3rd game the world is collapsing, not due to the fire fading, but because the dragons have been slaughtered, there is no longer a being to keep time controlled and flowing, it becomes chaotic The dragons of elden ring are very much alike they only exist as living things until slain, once a true dragon dies it turns to stone because it longer has controll over time and is being returned to its original form, stone Stone is being used to signify stagnation, the ceasing of time

Genius theory, this feels like a puzzel piece sliding into place

@Banuune

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! :D Glad to see people agreeing ^^

Banuune mein liebchen! ❤ This was SO GOOD!! Really entertaining and provoking, but light and funny too which is so refreshing. I love this theory you’ve convinced me! Justice for Gransax, another causality in Marika’s sick twisted games

@Banuune

Ай бұрын

Aaaaaw! You're so sweet!!

HYPE-- Vaati gransax lore= cringe Banuune Gransax lore BASED

@Banuune

2 ай бұрын

xD

that theory is perfect, i didnt knew placidussax has this weapon, amazing video

@Banuune

19 күн бұрын

Thank you so much!

Well, this is my introduction to you. I’ve enjoyed it.

@Banuune

27 күн бұрын

Welcome! Glad you enjoyed it! ^^

This was an excellent first attempt at Elden Ring theorizing! Your editing is superb, and I think you have a knack for creative thinking. While I disagree with your conclusion, your initial premise is compelling just on its own: Gransax isn’t dead. I think we can take the “facts” of events at face value: that Gransax attacked Leyndell, but we should question the motivations of our characters. For instance, the War of the Ancient Dragons gives rise to the Ancient Dragon Cult and the Malformed Dragon Knights. Within the culture of the Erdtree, a “new” religious cult is created. The Ancient Dragons are beings of rock and stone, their lives are nearly eternal and when you live a life eternal days and years look alike. Perhaps Gransax isn’t dead, but is right where he needs to be, so instead of defeating their enemies by force they can convert them to their religion, and revere them as gods. Now, the Erdtree is just a symbol of faith but the stone scales of dragons can grant strength. And wouldn’t you know it, theirs a depository of stone scales at the Bank of Gransax ;) Also Justice for Marika, Marika did nothing wrong. Great video, looking forward to more from 1

@Banuune

Ай бұрын

Aaaw thank you so much!!! D: Will think about your additions to the theory. I'm not 100% convinced by my own conclusion, but I'm sure Gransax is alive and that he is not the bad guy here

Gransax being stuck in time fully aware of everything for centuries, including having a wing dismantled, is a worse fate than merely being killed.

@Banuune

22 күн бұрын

It is. BUT. He has the chance to get free. He doesn't have to stay like this if he is just frozen. If dead, then there is no return. GRANSAX FOR LIFE!

The production values on this video are very nice! As to the main content, I think Gransax is still likely dead. While he's certainly very intact compared to some dragons, Gransax's body has nonetheless petrified like their own, and we can see his body crumbling apart via the Gravel Stone items that can be picked up while traversing his wings. Additionally, the gold on the underside of Gransax's wings is absent, a la the dead dragons. The placement of Gransax's head is interesting, but I feel it's for a different reason -- Gransax seems to have been leaning against something before he petrified. Gransax's head and neck currently aren't supported by part of that large gate, as some of your camerawork has shown. As such, there may have been a large structure there in the past that was too destroyed to rebuild but not so necessary to hold up Gransax's body that it had to be left alone. This could imply an interesting history of Leyndell's architectural development. I feel that Godfrey would be too focused on fighting to use major deception, even with Serosh on his back. For a man who feels that strength warrants a crown, whether or not he or a foe of his proves worthy, Hoarah Loux would probably fight Placidusax outright if he ever faced him at all. Marika also seems surprisingly willing to leave the history books alone compared to past From Software monarchs. While Marika slaughtered the Fire Giants and imprisoned the entire Great Caravan, no dialogue or item descriptions imply that anything was meant to be covered up regarding these actions. The only things Marika seems to have hidden in the main game are Radagon's true nature and her Tarnished plan. However, for those cases, the secrecy was apparently in service of Marika's ultimate goal, ensuring that a demi-god or warrior in general would become great enough to rise up and defeat the Elden Beast. Also, the Tarnished Marika banished were apparently told the plan outright, going by Melina's quoting of Marika. We don't know what the Land of Shadow will tell us about Marika's origin and plans. It's possible that Marika hid the land in a different dimension for her image, but perhaps she also did it to stop Messmer from somehow pulling a Frenzied Flame on the entire world. We'll have to see what occurs there, but hopefully it'll be great for gameplay and story alike.

I search for elden lore every day on youtube, a very cool and interesting theory, thanks!

@Banuune

2 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it (:

I was so excited for your next upload and now I am for the next one. Awesome work

@Banuune

2 ай бұрын

Kind words! Thank you! I'll try to hurry up a bit with the next one ^^°

I love this video! The editing, the music, the drawings, the fanfiction, such a unique and fun approach. I’d love to see more Elden Ring speculation from you!

@Banuune

Ай бұрын

;_; Thank you! There is one comming soon

Great video! Very interesting find as well! And the speculated story makes a lot of sense. I very much like the idea of Gransax protecting Leyendell, and history being re-written, (though I would think Marika would have done that), to clear the evidence of the prior First Elden Lord. What makes me confused about the story is the timeline of it all. Like we are talking about three different occasions of big dragon fights. When in all this did Marika become a God instead of Placidusax’s god? When did Godfrey become Elden Lord and when was Godwyn born in all of this? An alternative idea for a background story, though, not as exiting maybe could be: Placidusax was taken to the brink of his fighting capacity in Leyendell - having already lost a head or two - and decides in desperation to nuke Leyendell so he can exact his revenge for his expelled god. Gransax thought he went overboard and tried to undo the nuke spell. That’s when Placi, though too late, realized his misstake and had to freeze both him and his brother/child/whatever in order to save both his kin and the city. Much rambling later.. I enjoyed the very high quality content you made and hope that I’ll be seeing more about Elden Ring soon on your channel!

@Banuune

2 ай бұрын

Hey there! Thank you for the kind words. To the timeline. I'm placing the war against dragons a "bit" earlier than we thought. Marika probably became a god during very early and I think the dragons were still ruling. Maybe placis god fled because of Marika and Godfrey. And godwyn was born after gransax "attacked" leyndell. I like your idea of placi wanting to reverse his actions! Will think about it!

I never thought too much about Gransax and why he’s there but this video made me realize that the condition of his body is really weird

This was an awesome video and just another reminder that I love how Elden Ring handled its lore and worldbuilding. There are so many angles to look at and deceptions to sift through that it makes for a variety of interpretations, which I think makes for excellent art. Great job and interested to hear more of your thoughts on anything Elden Ring.

@Banuune

18 күн бұрын

I'm working on my next video but I'm not sure if I'll be able to post it before the dlc. But I'll give my best (:

@Banuune

18 күн бұрын

And thank you for your nice words. I really tried to make sense of it ^_^

@geordiejones5618

18 күн бұрын

@@Banuune I think it really works even if it doesn't rely on "hard evidence" just logically and conceptually it tracks.

@geordiejones5618

Күн бұрын

​@@BanuuneHad to come back here after the DLC. If you haven't played I won't be specific, but there's more dragon lore and I still think this video holds up.

@Banuune

3 сағат бұрын

@@geordiejones5618 thank you for coming back!! Yes! I've played the dlc. And yes. Ancient dragons are the good guys while the other ones are now considered the bad guys. And look at this new dragon!! It's so big!! And so dead!!! With this one I'm not debating if he/she is alive xD

Good stuff man :)

@Banuune

2 ай бұрын

Thank you ^_^

I hope we can find dragon eyes in the Dlc somehow cause I REALLY LIKE THIS THEORY! It would probably be the best environmental story I'd ever see.

@Banuune

2 ай бұрын

Thank you soooo much

@Banuune

2 ай бұрын

You should check out @moxiewatts though!

4:05 kyle chill asf for listening Edit: 8:03 damn

@Banuune

2 ай бұрын

wait till you get to 12:08 xD

Very nice theory, makes sense with the timeline and events and as a Dragon Communion member I approve of the dragon themed lore dive.

@Banuune

29 күн бұрын

Haha thank you ^^ Dragon Fan(atic)s are always welcome here! HAIL GRANSAX!

Gransax is Havel Confirmed

Very good production value. 👍

@Banuune

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Good stuff. I'm reminded of the dragons from the Kings Field lore.

@Banuune

2 ай бұрын

Uh. tell me more

@RyuuKageDesu

2 ай бұрын

@@Banuune It's been a while, so the details are hazy... Still, pull up a chair, and I'll tell you what I remember. In the beginning of that world, there was a creator god, that split itself creating different gods of creation. Or, was it gods of destruction. The distinction can be... fluid. Especially fluid when one of those gods, Vallad, split himself in to two, Seath and Guyra, The White Dragon and The Black Dragon. The two dragons soon went to war. The elves believed in Seth, but they were deceived. Just as Seath created a weapon against Guyra, Guyra created the Moonlight Sword against Seath. The weapon has been ever present throughout King's Field, Demon's Sould, Dark Souls, Bloodbourn, and now Elden Ring.

Wow what a compelling theory... Maybe not a theory, maybe a retelling of the real history of the Lands Between 👌

@Banuune

Ай бұрын

Aaaaw thank you!! 🥲

Godfrey has honor he would not do that but that is why she sent godfrey away then the dragons attacked,now that is something to ponder.Because it is said Godwyn defeated him.

@Banuune

28 күн бұрын

He took the help from Serosh. He has Honor. But you know how you get the most honor? If you win the war. And as the victor, you always can rewrite the history. That's what godfrey did for marika. He killed everyone who was against them. So everyone who thought differently or knew the truth was eliminated so that the only thing that survided in the future is what THEY said was true. So Godfrey abusing Gransax's size and strengh to get to his goal, is something I personally se as an option here. And also it is mentioned NOWHERE in the game that GRANSAX was slain. Never ever. "Ancient Dragons" were killed. Godwyn killed "the mightiest of them all". Fortisax. Fortis=strong. Gran(d)=big. Gransax is the "Big-one", Fortisax he "Strong(est)-one", Placidusax is the "silent-one". So no. Never ever has it been said that Gransax was killed. I said that to another commenter a few days ago. So you should look thorugh the comments, as a lot of things like those were already explained :)

He seems fossilisized, the pose he's stuck in is the result of some explosion (of light). Furthermore he's been slain by Godwyn, and that's in the game. Cheers!!

@Banuune

Ай бұрын

Where? :)

@MidnightatMidian

Ай бұрын

@@Banuune Godwyn kills the ancient dragon Grandsax and then befriends fortisax and lanseax, which starts the cult worshipping of ancient dragons in Leyndell. It's mentionned everywhere in the game.

@Banuune

Ай бұрын

@@MidnightatMidian WHERE!? "Everywhere" is not an answere! Godwyn defeated "the mightiest of them all" but that is fortisax. fortis=strong in latin. But never ever ever ever is it stated ANYWHERE in the game, that Gransax was KILLED. Never ever. "Dragons" yes. "Gransax" NO.

@moxiewatts

Ай бұрын

UH, SOURCE??

@moxiewatts

Ай бұрын

Yeah im gonna need to see a source for your claim midnight because it is mentioned literally no where. You have the burden of proof. She had the items associated up on screen, so unless she missed something, then you're straight up wrong.

Gransax Untold.

@Banuune

27 күн бұрын

xD exactly!

I love this

@Banuune

Ай бұрын

Me too :D But thank you ^^ xD

awesome theory.

@Banuune

Ай бұрын

Thank you ^_^

Is the big ole dragon in any ending cut sceane?

@Banuune

29 күн бұрын

Sadly there is nothing about this Dragon beside him being mentioned in like 3 Items or so. So sadly there is no cutscene with thim ;_;

you should post more videos a day

@Banuune

2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! But sadly it's hard to keep up with editing videos with a rl job ): I wish I could do more. And faster.

I was all in with this until you got a few things backwards, Godwyn started the dragon cult because “even lightning is golden” I would assume dragon communion came first because it was more occult eating dragon hearts is prolly not looked upon kindly. Also I truly do not believe that Merika had anything to do with the night of the black knives to me it’s clear she shattered the Elden ring in response to Godwin’s death. But I did like the idea that he is frozen in time so he’s not dead but also not alive either.

@Banuune

Ай бұрын

Hey. Thanks for the feedback. I noticed my confusion about the dragon cult and communion. It should have been the other way around. Noticed that too late ): sorry And the Marika planned godwyns death theory is acctually not mine but i just reasoned it differently. I dont know who was the FIRST to present it, but i remember agtjake theorizing about it. I see why people don't belive it thought. But I think its worth thinking about ^^ anyways wish you the best

@Banuune

Ай бұрын

Also cute kitty

I disagree on the Black Knives being aligned with Marika. Marika likely betrayed her own Numen people for power before she was betraying everyone else and they want payback. No one hurts you more than family.

@Banuune

22 күн бұрын

I see why you would think so. But Marika being the one who orchestrated the NoBK is not my original idea. Many people came to the conclusion. Marika was willing to sacrifice her own children if they weren't able to make a Lord or a God out of themselves. She caged 2 of her own children for thinking they are ugly. I don't think that Marika loves her children as she should lol

@ravendelacour1917

22 күн бұрын

@@Banuune I agree Marika would and could kill her kids, but I don't think she did this time. We know Ranni stole the Rune of Death and transcribed it on the Black Knives for the Noxian assassins who killed Godwyn and possibly the other soulless demigods in the Wandering Mausoluem. If Marika was behind the plot, she could have given the Rune to the Assassin's herself, so why involve Ranni? Hell, Marika could just have Malekith kill Godwyn outright. The Greater Will already seems cool with kinslaying, so her Shadow would obey. Now, we know that someone caged the leader of the Assassins who killed Godwyn in the Evergaol after the Assassins escaped from the murder. This leads me to believe Ranni was the mastermind instead and she double crossed the Assassins by imprisoning the only person who likely knew of Ranni's involvement. Thus the Black Knife Assassins take the fall of the Golden Order's wrath leaving Ranni free to pursue her aims. The other Assassins catch up to Ranni later in her quest line and kill Iji and try to kill Blaidd while looking for Ranni. Ranni however is long gone by this time.

He has not been dead as long,and seems he had close to the same fate as many dead people they all look like stone.

@Banuune

28 күн бұрын

All ancient Dragons look like stone. They ARE stone. But when they are killed, which is very hard due to their stone scales, they become brittle. Gansax has not a single crumbling part (exept the wing that broke off in one piece and even this piece is not cumbled. But him being stone is not the most irritating thing about him. It is his position. You should watch Zullie the Witch's or Bonfire's Gransax model analysis video and you will notice the lookes like he was stopped MID MOTION And that is not how animals die. Only if they are rapidly frozen, which, looking at all the ash around leyndell, was not the case. And he clearly wasn't burned. And even if we was burned, noone freezes in motion when being burned. So yeah. There is story. Story we do not understand yet. But I think my Idea of him actually protectiong the capital or the roundtable hold, is very reasonable.

Thinking we will get answers and not more questions from the DLC is just copium. Myazaki does not answer questions. He only gives us more.

@Banuune

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely!! XD I'm just hoping something will hint at my theory being correct. Not confirm, but hint at. Like the things I mention in this video. Nothing is mentioned, but hinted at :D

Nah, he's dead.

@Banuune

15 күн бұрын

Nah. He's alive.

You mention that claiming Gransax is dead is an unsubstantiated claim within the lore… yet then dive into an entire fanfic theory about how the war with the dragons played out… with unsubstantiated claims. You’re absolutely right with how Marika’s reign resulted in erasure of history in the Lands Between… but the rest of your theory leading to and resulting in Godwyn’s assassination is cringe. Also all ancient dragons are made of stone, it is not something they transition to upon death. Just look at the gravel stones and ancient dragon smithing stones. You talk some light smack in your vid, I hope you can take mine in stride! Good work on the video itself! I’m just not a fan of the way you presented or supported your theory.

@Banuune

Ай бұрын

Hey there. First thank you for the feedback. But I never said that it's unsubstainable. I said that it is "fairly assumed" as "Dragon still in Leyndell AFTER rampage against the Dragons" where we can assume they killed most of the Dragons. And why wouldn't they kill him too? I see the reasoning behind it. But I also see that his visually differs immensely from the actual Corpses. And so many more tiny hints in the Story, that could, if you are open to it, show you a totally different story. And yes Dragons ARE made from stone. But this stone also gets brittle when they die, as we can see in the dead dragons. Gransax has the textrues of the living dragons, with some minor alterations, not the one used on the dead ones. I hope you can see where I'm going. You need to be very open minded to fully get my theory, and I know it's not for everyone. But appriciate you watching it till the end. The Godwyn part at the end was more free-jazzin' about idead to connect the whole Dragon Theory with Godwyn you fu- I mean loved a Fortisax. lul. Plus the theory that Marika planned Godwyns death is not mine. There a many creators out there have pointed out that some dialogue can hint at it being fact and also the fact that she threw 2 of her children in the sewers WITHOUT HESITATION. ._. Best mom ever.

@CitSwamp

Ай бұрын

@@Banuune I know you never specifically said the claims of Gransax being dead were unsubstantiated, but (without watching your video all over again) I believe you said that there were no item descriptions or in-game text stating he was dead. While this is correct… your theory had no text or item descriptions to support it either. While that’s fine I guess, it just seemed like you unnecessarily opened yourself up to criticism on that front. I just brought up the Godwyn bit so you didn’t smack me around like Kyle lol. But I do agree that there is a distinct probability that Marika had ties with Godwyn’s assassination. I will say that I have a theory of my own regarding Gransax’s Bolt (though I’m sure there’s a youtuber who has probably said this) It is definitely modeled after Placidusax’s red lightning spears, but I can’t imagine Placidusax needing a physical spear for himself since he can literally conjure them. Maybe it was something crafted by him (or with his blessing) to be given to his strongest warrior - Gransax. A boon of sorts, before leading the war against Marika. And don’t apologize for the long reply! I enjoy friendly talks and discourse about this stuff!

@Banuune

Ай бұрын

Ok nice. So to the Items: I said that there are only three Items that claim that Gransax attacked the City from which all are assosiated or made by Golden Order / marikon / Radika. lol xD So their influence in the creation of the Items or the Location they are found in could also resonate in them lying about what happend. I know that my theory is not stated in text directly. But when you are open minded and read between the lines, you can see where I'm coming from and where I'm going with it xD The visual story telling is very important in fromsoft games. So I payed attention to the surrondings. What things are found where and for what reason. There is an whole untold story out there and that's why I love this game. And this is the reason there are so many theories about this game out there. If you are open to the idea that I COULD be right here, boot up the game, listen to my words again and see for youself. And to the Kyle thing: He ruined the whole flow. He deserved the punishment. I stand by that ! xD

@CitSwamp

Ай бұрын

@@Banuune I’ll have to go back and read the different item descriptions! I haven’t played ER in about a year! (Horrible right?!) From my experience with FromSoft games, I’ve always understood item text to be definitive lore unless there are quotations in the item description or a comment in the description like “it is said”. Those two things usually signal a personal account that can be open to interpretation. You’ve brought some great points forward, and now I’ve got my own investigation to do! Good luck with your future content! I’ll keep an eye out for it!

@Banuune

Ай бұрын

Thank you! Let me know how your research is going to turn out. Also I don't belive that all the Item descriptions are pure facts. I think there is always a bias from the creator or finder. But that is a personal opinion I guess ^^