An actually good WW1 RTS??? | The Great War: Western Front
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Let me be clear, the game is VERY rough around the edges and there's definitely still a lot I'd like to see changed. I was rather sad that the battles saved trenches but you always returned to your own positions, rather than generating further battlefields (and therefore occupying the enemy trenches as yours) but the game itself was surprisingly engaging and fun for what is one of the slowest forms of warfare possible. It also FEELS like WW1, where units get obliterated in a second and the solution is send THRICE AS MANY MEN THIS TIME. Honestly, it's fun, and with a lot of polish could be a really respectable addition to the RTS genre, a tradition-breaker in the same way that Starship Troopers: Terran Command is.
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Really helps put into perspective the why WWI is referred to as a Meat Grinder. Like you can read the statistics or like individual scenes of like a dozen people getting gunned down, but seeing companies of hundreds just disappear in the face of a single machinegun position and 3 thousand casualties be referred to as a "great victory" is something else
@iamsinistar8971
Жыл бұрын
And the darkest part is this time you're the commander sitting comfortably at home leading them into the meat grinder with a single order.
@AliasAlias-nm9df
Жыл бұрын
You have no choice. If you don't send the men over the top Germany won't be defeated before dinner.
@noviceleader8745
Жыл бұрын
@@AliasAlias-nm9df *before tea time
@UnknownLord711
Жыл бұрын
@@AliasAlias-nm9dfwhat’s funny is that was just the officers looking for glory, when they ran out of large reserves they were like shit we have to use actual tactics now
@Xrayflames
Жыл бұрын
@@UnknownLord711 officers and aristocrats died at a higher rate than enlisted men. The British lost 78 generals, 70 german were killed, and so on and so forth
"We lost 7 000 men, but they lost more... at least in points" That's the most WW1 line I've ever heard
@daudiochero
Жыл бұрын
Rimmy was definitely a ww1 general in his past life
"Ok, we took 1 trench" This game is realistic af
@kirbyis4ever
Жыл бұрын
7 thousand men dead for one trench. A GREAT VICTORY!
@aviowl8945
Жыл бұрын
ten thousand dead for one trench, a great succsess
@TheNapster153
Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of wh40k meme I made. "Sir, we've secured the first line!" *piles of corpses and depleted regiments* "Excellent, Nigel! Now proceed to the second line!"
@argon2423
Жыл бұрын
@@TheNapster153 *Happy gas mask noises*
@crook7493
Жыл бұрын
this game is gonna be so good once it comes out. Hours and hours of fighting just to attempt to take one or two regions
"The first wave will be basic brits and if they die they die" Haig is proud of you Rimmy!
@saint4life09
Жыл бұрын
The whole lions led by donkeys thing is a myth dude
@apossiblyhereticalalphaleg3595
Жыл бұрын
@@saint4life09 I was just making a joke mate. And it is objectively true that there were pointless charges against entrenched positions in hindsight, even if with the information they had it could've seemed reasonable.
@spaceman8935
Жыл бұрын
Rimmy pulling on the brits what the brits pulled on the Anzacs at Gallipoli
@feckusmaximus3234
Жыл бұрын
@@spaceman8935brits and anzacs alike suffered at Gallipoli the villain of that story was Churchill
@hngh6404
Жыл бұрын
@@saint4life09 idk Hubert Gough was a pretty big asshole in regards to his men
Fun fact about the undermining: Several of those charges with an estimated 80 tons of explosives are still around and just kind of sitting under the belgian landscape. One 26000 lbs charge went off after a lightning strike in 1955 and left behind a 40m crater and one thoroughly minced cow
@chaosinc.382
Жыл бұрын
That poor cow!!!! 😭😭😭
@magmat0585
Жыл бұрын
the belgians are probably just keeping them ready for the next time the germans decide to come on through
@chaosinc.382
Жыл бұрын
@@magmat0585 Why bother planting new mines when the old ones kill just as proper, eh?
@magmat0585
Жыл бұрын
@@chaosinc.382 This must be that "recycling" that's all the rage in Europe XD
@michimatsch5862
Жыл бұрын
@@magmat0585 Reduce, reuse, recycle. Perfectly environmentally friendly.
A Bullet can have a name on it A Grenade is "To whom it may concern" But Artillery is "Dear Grid Coordinates"
@arcturus960
Жыл бұрын
Exterminatus is @everyone
@mranderson9553
Жыл бұрын
gas is a public service announcement
Watching Rimmy become elated when he finds a good RTS game will never stop inspiring me to take pride in what i enjoy. Good on ya, mate!
Petrogrolyph is like a god at making good RTS games, from the command and conquer remastered to Empire at war, Panzer assault and Universe at war
@joesmutz9287
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see them remaster EaW someday. It's still a solid game, but the addition of official memory patches and modern modding tools would make it so much better
@masonlund8715
Жыл бұрын
@@joesmutz9287 A remaster would be great, but weirdly enough Empire at War did get a modding patch I think a year or two ago
@eveakane6563
Жыл бұрын
They have the IP to CnC now?
@LS1056
Жыл бұрын
They did Universe at War??
@randomlygeneratedname
Жыл бұрын
They need to remaster universe at war
Honestly _only_ losing 1.3x more than your enemy in a successful attack during WW1 is like amazing.
I've always wanted a good WWI RTS game. I've always thought that Total War would be a good engine for it, but this looks like it might just work And it's so nice to see Petroglyph back in the game after so long I think I'm getting this one
@dozenbuzzard2662
Жыл бұрын
i somewhat agree, i think it suits musket/line batle formations better
@joesmutz9287
Жыл бұрын
@@dozenbuzzard2662 Most definitely, but between the engine's ability to handle so many people at once, the terrain and defense drawing that 3k and TWW3 have, and it's pretty intuitive overworld/combat map split, I think it would do better than most any other engine with minimal changes
@kireta21
Жыл бұрын
Total War would probably work better for Eastern Front, which was very dynamic and so cavalry heavy, Lancers started using actual lances again.
@johannesal1
Жыл бұрын
There actually is a ww1 mod for Napoleon: Total War. Its quite fun.
When I played the demo, I was in exaggerated hysterics over one small detail: I was born in the town of Lagny-Sur-Marne, about 10-15 minutes drive from Torcy, which you can see on the map near Paris. The idea that Torcy has the same overall territorial value as Verdun on the campaign map was just too funny. (For those not in know, today at least the only thing remarkable about Torcy is that has a half decent local shopping center)
"Here we go, we are breaking through... and all it took was a lot of men" -most British Generals ordering a frontal charge in ww1
France still has some of those massive craters from undermining. I remember a school trip there to the Lochnagar Crater (fired on the first day of the Battle of the Somme). Definitely a sight to see if you have the chance.
@5peciesunkn0wn
Жыл бұрын
"Funny" thing; there were three mines of that size built. Only one exploded when they pressed the plunger down. Two are lost. Well, *were* lost. In like, the 60s I think, a lightning strike set off one of the two missing mines in a poor, random farmer's field. The only casualty was a cow out in said field.
@gaychampagnesocialist7213
Жыл бұрын
@@5peciesunkn0wn Wikipedia better list that cow as the last casualty of The Great War.
@5peciesunkn0wn
Жыл бұрын
@@gaychampagnesocialist7213 hahahaha
@daddysempaichan
Жыл бұрын
Just looked it up. Christ wouldn't want to be on top of one of those when they go off.
@5peciesunkn0wn
Жыл бұрын
@@daddysempaichan Not at all.
The thing about rolling barrages is the leftover smoke/dust actually provides -cover- concealment for advancing infantry, yours and the enemy’s
@Jsay18
Жыл бұрын
Concealment* FTFY
@wanderer5058
Жыл бұрын
@@Jsay18 You are correct, of course.
@Jsay18
Жыл бұрын
@@wanderer5058 we all make a mistake here and there, its effectively the same thing for this game anyways. Good Day.
I hope petroglyph makes more rts games
@Lgapwookie
Жыл бұрын
Hello my friend have you heard of Star Wars: Empire at War?
@killtheheretics2915
Жыл бұрын
@@Lgapwookie yes
@killtheheretics2915
Жыл бұрын
@@Lgapwookie its one of my favorite star wars games
@Usual_User
Жыл бұрын
@@killtheheretics2915 my man
@killtheheretics2915
Жыл бұрын
@@Usual_User I got it as a present after a doctors appointment as a kid
Never thought I'd see the day trench warfare looks like a blast but goddamn if this game doesn't look phenomenal.
@arcturus960
Жыл бұрын
Ave imperator, may we one day get warhammer mods for krieg and vraks. This would be a wonderful game for it!
@gryphonbotha1880
Жыл бұрын
Do or Don't: The Western Front
well this certainly seems interesting! I do hope they add a 'moving front' so you remain in control of the enemy's trenches as you've suggested. Would make things more engaging. (though as it currently is, you do get an easy time figuring out likely spots for the enemy's fortifications lol)
@SableTwoSeven
Жыл бұрын
I really hope they implement this!
I think a mechanic similar to the strike plans in ICBM would be very fun, so you could set up the artillery and infantry and launch an all out attack with the press of a single button.
@pnutz_2
Жыл бұрын
organise everything and refight the battle of Hamel
@thebirdofwarandhope6686
Жыл бұрын
There will be mod probably
With the flamethrowers and tanks, rimmy just recreated that French scene from the new All quiet on the western front
@sillerbarly4927
Жыл бұрын
Except those tanks were known to get stuck in trenches do to the massive artillery cannon in the front
"Would this plan be to get out of our trenches and walk slowly towards the enemy?" "Yes according to the Grand Plan!" "You mean the continuation of mass slaughter until everyone's dead except Lord Haig, Lady Haig and their pet tortoise Alan?"
@janhornak5739
Жыл бұрын
Blackadder?
@saint4life09
Жыл бұрын
Hope you're aware how ridiculously inaccurate that is to how the war actually went and the development of the British Army.
@AnimarchyHistory
Жыл бұрын
@@saint4life09 the channel name should give it away… but yes. This is… as they say… a joke. A reference to one even!
@alexwinfield9540
6 ай бұрын
@@saint4life09 how does it feel to go through life with zero sense of humour?
@oliverpohlproductions8291
4 ай бұрын
I feel the Leaks are getting even worse! These plans seem to keep getting to German ears! Isn't it odd?
18:05 Man, it's almost hard to believe that there hasn't been a war since 1918. What peaceful times we live in, humanity might of had it's rough patches but at least we learned our lesson.
@MandeepSingh-vt9hl
Жыл бұрын
Man I am still waiting for the dlc part 3 😁
@fireinthehole9523
Жыл бұрын
Uhh you do realise that there was a round 2 right
>"actually good rts?" >shows up flame throwers doing yee yee's and 360 no scope
@kinghyctr
Жыл бұрын
war is yee yee, never changes.
@FlashHawk4
Ай бұрын
Look, man, there's no way anyone who's been issued a flamethrower hasn't thought "I wonder what it'd be like if I..."
So 10:29. Some advice. Your creeping barrage fucked you. They would not have made it to your trenches if you hadn't used it. Creeping barrages leave dust and smoke in their wake which provides cover for infantry, which helped the Germans take less damage, which allowed them to close and get at your trenches. Creeping barrages are a purely offensive tool. If you want to use light artillery defensively, use the normal barrage. I fucking love the depth of this game. So hyped for it to come out at the end of the month.
"There is very little things that can't be solved with artillary and a wave of men." -- WW1 Generals
*British CO:* "Alright, we have a new plan to defeat Germany: previous attacks have shown the limitations of our older tanks and their artillery support, so we're going to create an internationally unified command, and it will deploy newer, more reliable tanks and their artillery support to break through the first trenches, after which the air force will switch over to support both the tanks and infantry with close bombing support, suppressing the enemy defenses beyond artillery range, which will allow a breakthrough that-" *American CO:* "Better idea! Hordes of men, under different commands, supported by maybe two tanks, whatever artillery is lying about, and gas that we'll probably run our own guys into by accident!" *British CO:* "What? I...no, we aren't doing something that-" *American CO:* "Too late! OVER THE TOP, BOYS!" _Blows Whistle_ _Later_ *French CO:* "Ze men brahke through, and ze Germahns just surrendered, so ze wahr ees now ovair." *British CO:* "Excuse me, I need to make a phone call...yes, MI1? Please make up some nonsense about German communists, or mutineers, or whatever, because I am NOT letting something like...THIS, get into the history books. You will? Thank you. No, no, I can't say 'I love you too', that isn't legal yet. Yes, goodbye." _Click_
I never realized how awesome a ww1 rts like this game would be. A game you should check out is "Graviteam Tactics Mius Front" probably the most realistic and in depth rts out there, or at least one of the best. Great video as always though Rimmy!
"no war of such devastating scale should ever exist again" Then it existed again-
This looks amazing! Petroglyph just makes so many great RTS games. I'm loving this game, especially the trench building and fortifying. It's like you're actually play a WW1 game from the pov of commanders rather than basic infantry.
I hope Empire At War 2 uses this as the basis of combat, since Star Wars is based on a mix of WW1 and WW2 combat.
Last night I had the strangest dream I’d ever dreamed before I dreamed the world had all agreed To put an end to war I dreamed I saw a mighty room The room was filled with men The papers they were signing said They’d never fight again And when the papers all were signed And a million copies made They all joined hands and bowed their heads And grateful prayers were prayed And the people in the streets below Were dancing round and round And guns and swords and uniforms Were scattered on the ground Last night I had the strangest dream I’d ever dreamed before I dreamed the world had all agreed To put an end to war
loses 6,000 men Rimmy: That's a great victory!
The biggest question I have here is whether combat is just some numbers hiding behind the visual effects, or if bullets and shells are actually simulated.
@jurajsintaj6644
Жыл бұрын
Probably not. Way too much work from the side of the coders, and it would be really bad for optimization, for what is essentially very little in terms of gameplay.
@JohnDoe-kv3cm
Жыл бұрын
its numbers and visuals.
@egoalter1276
Жыл бұрын
Shells obviously are, bullets obviously are not.
"When someone's in a trench, artillery doesn't do much to 'em." Not physically anyway.
"No don't surrender!" I honestly thought Rimmy was talking to his own French troops right then XD
@pnutz_2
Жыл бұрын
wrong war for that one
"Don't surrender I want to burn you" is like the evil version of a WH40K Salamander
That was a pretty common practice - get in, kill enemy forces, plant as many booby traps\large explosives as possible and GTFO to the original positions until reinforcements arrive. So in this case it is makes sence that your guys captured enemy territory, placed an huge ass bomb under enemy fortifications and retreated.
Would be cool if they added eastern front or even Russian Civil war to that game in the future (or probably just a separate game, considering this one is named "Western Front" lol)
@scottdeane909
Жыл бұрын
Western Front 2: Eastern Front
@pira707
Жыл бұрын
@@scottdeane909 Western Front 3: Southern Front (Austrians vs Serbia?)
@Mikhalych88
Жыл бұрын
@@pira707 that's gonna be Western Front 2: Eastern Front DLC - Southern Front
@thecommissarshatisonfirege4193
Жыл бұрын
Dying in the Carpathian mountains is exactly the gameplay I want. Immediately while playing the demo, I thought "this needs an eastern front"
Dude, you have got to make at least a limited series on this once it’s out in full.
Wow they actually acknowledge Canada in a ww1 game something that even triple a devs seem to forget we fought in wars >:(
@saint4life09
Жыл бұрын
I mean AAA devs generally tend to forget everyone that isn't American and even when they don't, they'll butcher the ever living hell out of it e.g. BF1.
amazing how they added all the allies instead of just the british
"all right can we get chlorine gas now" Yep bro was definitely a ww1 general in his past life
Literally was talking about rimmy videos and this came up. Nice timing Rimmy
Lovely video Rimmy! This looks like a really well made RTS! Maybe the genre isn't as dead as we thought! And its a World War 1 game too! Oh boy oh boy this will be loads of fun to watch
Man I could def watch more of this!
4:04 the french grimreaper legion famous for their stealth hunter-bombers
I just love how when he first sees the flamethrowers in action he screams like he was down there on the battlefield witnessing it himself
This is great keep up the good work
I always wanted to see a rts WW1 game, I as a fan of the turtling tactic, and was not disappointed with what it looks like so far.
I hope they add Austria Hungary as a nation later on for the central powers. even tho their main forces were in Italian and Eastern fronts, they did send four divisions to help the Germans during the Allied Hundred Days offensive.
"And that's last war humanity ever fought" Funny mustache man: "Are you sure about that?"
I hope we can get more WWI games in the future. It really is an underrated subject in history and in the area o Video Games.
"Can we get chlorine gas now? Yeeea. Yeeeeah. All right!" I don't think I've ever heard anyone sound so excited to commit war crimes.
The reflection in the glass at the end having planes in the sky was a nice finishing touch lol
Hope you keep making videos like this I enjoy the dogfights
MORE OF THIS PLEASE!!!!
I love how at the end, you can see Stukas at the top of the window signififying the start of World War 2, at least i think those are Stukas, i could be wrong.
The sheer joy of gassing your opponents ❤️
I hope this has the initial mobile part of the war, that's always been more interesting to me.
I been hoping to see review game play for this game. And it sall I ever hoped for
After "Hans, get the flammenwerfer", this game brings "Pierre, get the lance-flammes"
thanks for the video, Rimmy! There's even my birth town on the map :D
“Great war I can not take more” Probably Rimmy’s units -Sabaton (great war)
this is one I'm keeping my eye on
I am so happy Petroglyph is still around and making amazing RTS games. Hopefully we can het Empire at War 2 someday
Me and my friend are definitely going to play this together
Always weird playing a ww1 game like this as a French from Seine et Marne... "Oh Torcy, that's close to home... oh Chateau Thierry! Damn that war really wasn't far"
Ah I can't wait for this to come out the demo was fun
As a history buff of the first world war, this game is dope
that underminig craters look awesome
I played this, it's definitely going to be fun for one campaign. I'm skeptical about replayability but if there's enough campaign map options to mix things up it'll be possible.
Rimmy goes full-on Death Korp of Krieg
@cornblaster7003
Жыл бұрын
welcome to world war 1
Rimmy they are adding multi-carrier fleets to Carrier Command 2 tomorrow. Would love to see you play!
He went into the Canadian mindset in the first clip
Rimmy attacking in march columns, the most ww1 of generals
i'd love another video on this game when it comes out ngl
I dunno what's funnier, the fact that I was shown an ad for a WWII RTS before this or the fact that the RTS in question is Company of Heroes 3
Rimmy learning how to play Death Korps of Krieg. A little more learning Rimmy. And you might just be ready for Vraks.
I like how rimmy sarcastically said it was the last war but the cinematic saying otherwise
Seems All Quiet on the Western Front has reignited people’s interest in WW1.
0:16 I truly believe this is what the French during WW1
“We’ve broken through, and all it took was a lot of men.” -Every WWl general.
I don’t know why but itching it’s cool that when a division/unit of soldiers gets damadged the soldiers don’t fall over one by one. The unit has its health and when that health reaches 0 all the aoldiers fall over at the same time.
i'd love to see more
This kinda feels simplistic especially the battles
Does anyone else feel like a bad person for counting the minuets until Rimmy gets to use Mustard Gas and commit a new war crime? 'Gentlemen, we may not make history tomorrow, but we shall certainly change the geography. ' British General Charles Harington. As part of the battle of Messines, tunnelling units beneath the German trenches detonated one of the largest non-nuclear explosions of all time.
Just started this game. Launched an attack during a blizzard. I figured a little "lowered visibility" wouldn't be that bad with my overwhelming numbers. The defeat was crushing.
can't wait to see what the modding community can do with this game if they allow it!
"Most likely outcome: mayor loss, lets go" Rimmy really is playing like a WW1 general
I would've thought in a WW1 rts you just build one machine gun and then you win. Edit: More accurately, both sides build one machine gun and get stuck in an infinite stalemate.
Rimmy: We took one trench, nice. WW1 general: Nice!? That was a jolly good fight! Now send 2000 more men to take the next trench
15:36 Rimmy I think the reason why they don’t have you push on from the battle as you say is because if that was the case the devs would have to make 3 maps on average for each territory totaling in at like 100 maps that the devs would have to make. And I think they want to have this persistent trench mechanic be shown off more
This game answers the question, what if WW1 was fun :)
One of the few people I’ve seen who actually know how to play, it wasn’t perfect but much much better than most
Oh a WW2 version of this would be so cool! I wonder how it’ll work!
The demo (that should've stayed available I hate temporary ones) takes place during the hundred days offensive that basically ended the war on the western front.
This is the same team that made empire at war. Absolutely love the great war game so far
Petroglyph has really just been coming out swinging since C&C Remastered.
I feel like entire fucking platoons wielding flamethrowers is just a smidge OP
I had no idea you could combine Company of Heroes, Total War AND Cities: Skylines together.
I'm glad i clicked on this video. This Game looks amazing!