Amplifier Tuning Settings How To - Gain, Crossovers, Bass Boost
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How do you tune an aftermarket amplifier? What is gain input sensitivity? What are crossovers and bass boost? Can we tune with a multimeter or should we use a purpose made tool like the SMD DD-1 to detect distortion and clipping? Let's find out!
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Thanks for watching! Here are a few more tuning related videos to help you out! Tuning with an RTA - kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4anlLygmKq-dcY.html Tuning Crossovers - kzread.info/dash/bejne/dHh_rrusd9yohrg.html Testing for better sound - kzread.info/dash/bejne/nY2n0NiomdPFn8Y.html
@kstandal2
5 жыл бұрын
My aftermarket AMP dont have a gain controll, what do i do?
@incorporeal3793
5 жыл бұрын
So according to one of the comments lower the voltage you arrive at with Ohms law should be multiplied by .707, is that correct? I've not seen anyone else say that when using a multimeter in the vids I've watched. It's a huge difference to mine though if true, would go from 28.28v down to 19.99v. 8v seems an awful lot to be out by.
@mfoubert1652
5 жыл бұрын
CarAudioFabrication so if I already set the gain on my mono amp for my sub, can I add a gain knob but when I install it I have to plug it in fully turned up so it can’t go any higher than the max gain on the amp ?
@terrydancer7750
4 жыл бұрын
CarAudioFabrication are those the Dayton Audio B652AIR bookshelf speakers?
@gurmohansingh1951
4 жыл бұрын
I bought Amp to enjoy music... not to become an elec engineer. useless video.
The Chrisfix of car audio
@robinthrill3r7
5 жыл бұрын
Right.
@0200Oscar
5 жыл бұрын
I thought no one realized that
@louischianca7549
4 жыл бұрын
Wish
@S8LAD
4 жыл бұрын
fact! lol
@CauseItsMrMG
4 жыл бұрын
Love this lmao
I feel like I owe this guy money for the education he has given me.
Great demo! Sometimes we forget to explain the basics and this video does a great job. Thanks Mark.
@geofftubeyou
6 жыл бұрын
BigDWiz Hey Big D. We need more amp dyno test.
It's about time I can't tell you how many videos I've watched that of either been too technical or not enough. You inform me of things I've never been told before and did it in a way I understand. thank you, Derik from Arizona
Thanks Mark for all your videos. I am regular do-it-yourselfer and this information helps me understand the tuning process
Pro tip: The issue with setting gain with multi meter is you should multiply the voltage by .707 to get the correct RMS value. This is why you had distortion and needed to turn the gain back down. I bet if you measure it again after using the DDM it will be around 17.2v👍👍 I’m not trying to criticize. Your info is spot on as usual.
@krakenking1597
5 жыл бұрын
So my equation looks like this=(2 ohm x 385w RMS)=770 Sq rt is 27.748. So multiply 27.748 by .707?
@colinmilstead8381
5 жыл бұрын
Kraken King That is how it appears to me, that’s how I will tune mine. Not everyone can afford the fancy equipment so I’m thankful for this comment.
@ngt84
5 жыл бұрын
his setting was not way off, look at how close he was to the distortion limit ( 6:09)
@krakenking1597
5 жыл бұрын
I just followed this video, and it took care of the smell and amp shut off. I waited for a bit but no confirmation.
@denshi-oji494
5 жыл бұрын
It also will make a difference on the meter you use. MANY of the DVMs (Digital Volt Meters) on the market today are TRUE RMS, meaning they already show the RMS value, instead of peak voltage of an AC (Alternating Current) signal. Any signal above 0Hz, is AC by the way, that is what the frequency is a measurement of, how often the polarity is changing, (actually 1/2 of how often is changes since it is showing a full repetitive cycle rate, so it needs to change twice to get back to the original polarity.) Greatly simplified description... Anyway, IF the meter he was using is NOT a true RMS meter, the voltage the meter was showing would have been HIGHER than the actual RMS voltage, and with a sine wave, like he is using, the RMS voltage would already have been 0.70 volts LOWER than the displayed voltage.
You do realize you're doing some very, very good work, Mark. I'm building a system now and your channel is teaching me a lot, and I've been DIY-ing for 30 years. I'll be donating to your Patreon soon! Thanks!
Thank you for another great video. You supply information that isn't readily available, all explained in an easy to understand manner.
I was an installer for 19 years and did a LOT of brands. I am loyal to a handful and I have seen some favorites take a nosedive in quality. Two of my cars have the ENTIRE system replaced from the head unit through the entire audio path. My 'zip code car' had a Mach Audio system but only three channels of amplification were added. Even into my 50's I don't think I am capable of leaving ANY stock sound system alone.
@michaelmarquez6133
Ай бұрын
Hi not sure if you will see this but I was wondering if you, I bought a JL rd 900/5 and for mids it’s has 70 watts rms @ 4 ohms but I purchased a component speakers for the front Alpine R2 S65c it basically says 100 rms . What I am wondering is should I buy another amp for the rear (they are going to be similar alpines but 2 ways) or do you think I will be good? I know sometimes with like my home audio I could get an amp that only puts out on paper a small rms but they push speakers so good idk if it’s the same or not I mean if both speakers are 100 rms but my amp says 70 ? I know if I just push the fronts it will change to like 200 I believe so I’m just not sure really. I am also putting a dsp alpine as well 6 channel
Very educational video just put my first one two days ago and I’ve been running it with the knobs all the way up cause no one taught me how to use anything but your videos have taught me so much in the last two days
Great video job well done Mark, on explaining the total tuning process!!! 👍👍👍
This guy is the best on KZread extremely detailed in explaining the process as well as the technical aspects of equipment and its proper use
For those of you who don’t really know who this guy is..let me tell you. Mark is the Lebron James of car audio fabrication. He’s a very detailed professional who takes his work extremely serious. He has every dam tool you could think of at his disposal to make the job look as good or better than factory. Whatever your audio needs are, Mark delivers. I’ve seen many other car audio fabricators. And all have unique talents. However Mark, (IMO), is the undisputed KING of the tube.
@CarAudioFabrication
6 жыл бұрын
Haha there are a lot of guys way more talented than me, but I'm doing my best to make progress and get better with every build. Thanks for the love and thanks for watching!
@melvinhover7598
5 жыл бұрын
I use his videos as much as I can. I wish I could afford the tools to do that kind of craftsmanship. But I take my builds just as serious.
@mariobaca1385
5 жыл бұрын
@@CarAudioFabrication only if you had your own school
@molonlabe7750
5 жыл бұрын
So hes not even Kobe or Jordan...? got it!
@jporpmer
5 жыл бұрын
@@molonlabe7750 savage
finally someone who really knows what their talking about . thank you, it's been really helpful !
Thank you for the time and effort. I've watched a handful of your vids, mostly revolving around the Audio Control amps. I'm very, very interested in them. That said, in other vidz, you've shown the feature LED that AC uses to help set the gain. I'd love to see an addition to this vid, or perhaps a separate one, where you use the Scope or DDM to test out how accurate their LED is. :) Once again, thank you.
Thank you for making these videos. These will come in handy soon!
@Assassin1710
4 жыл бұрын
@ 6.25. " You should never turn up the volume past this point on the Raido !. What Point is that ?
@homebody0089
8 ай бұрын
@@Assassin1710 The 3/4 point of full tilt on the head unit.
On a lot of these controller units and amplifiers, I really wish the manufacturers would spend the extra time to put a tick mark or an arrow on the dials. It would really help a lot of us make adjustments especially while in the car and confined spaces.
I’m a beginner on car audio and I’ve found your videos very helpful
Actually u r very good to explain all the things. Like I completely understand by watching full video . Without repetiting. Thank u car audio 🤘
@Mark, I just cant thank you enough for this video, my installer have made horrible mistakes on tuning the new amp and audio was worth than stock system. I followed you guidance and my car audio is 300% better than stock now ... 😁 Respect mate 🍻
@rolandkrakov980
2 жыл бұрын
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Dude! You’re bad ass. Everything is very properly explained. Thanks man. Great teacher!
Exactly what i needed to know, THANKS!
1:53 Gain is not a Volume Knob. so hard for people to understand.
@edwardmontalvo6224
6 жыл бұрын
especially teenagers. Because their buddy told them to crank it up!!!
@joswald2001
6 жыл бұрын
all knobs to the right
@nastyR12
6 жыл бұрын
haha
@GlycerinZ
6 жыл бұрын
"just crank it up"
@Sam-w9des
5 жыл бұрын
all knobs to 11
Excellent content! Always a great watch
Very well explained! Keep em coming!
Wow! the amps look amazing!!!!!. Awesome video
@marcz9482
3 жыл бұрын
What's so amazing?
Very good video, clear, concise and easy to understand
This guy's channel is badass!! I wish I had the kind of money it probably takes to have him hook my stuff up, from the ground up!!
@marcz9482
3 жыл бұрын
Save up kiddo you will get there some day.
Nice Video. I have a friend who has advanced knowledge of state of the art car audio. He has a 4000 watt 18 speakers system which sounded unlike anything automotive sound system I've ever heard...the amazing aspect is the specialized insulation system of the vehicle rendering the immense sound undetectable from out side while the doors are shut...it is truly amazing the tech mankind has achieved.
Holy moly. WOW. You made this very simple for my understanding.
Thank you for teaching a boces class on production and sound quality, basics of sounds put so seamless
Much appreciated, love the video very descriptive on making the knowledge easy to understand. The only thing I would comment on that would make it better is your transition timing from one sentence to another specially when you go from an edited video speak about one thing and transfer to the edited part that follows. You talk a little fast so for some it may be hard to follow on a listening paste. Little longer pauses between sentences. Liked and subscribed. Thanks again much appreciated
great video, but I noticed that you had low battery on the smd dd-1, I had that happen to me thinking my signal was distorted but when I changed my battery I could go a little bit more before distortion. great vid though for setting gains and crossovers.
Hi, thanks for your videos! The bass rolloff as you turn on the volume is rather a result of loudness function in the unit, that compensate humans hearing system non linearity. As your volume is low loudness function tilt up bass and highs. As you increase the volume the tilt up becomes smaller until zero tilt up from some volume level (defined by manufacturer). This looks like bass rolloff what is actually not really.
Wish I could afford the SMD-DD1
Great video I love the attention to detail 👍😃
I finnaly finished my system that took me 2 weeks of work, now this will be super helpful to tune it right
Great vids dude, much appreciated 👍
Man i love their product. If i had my own shop that would be my premiere line of amps. Especially since the auto industry is trying their damnedest to keep aftermarket equipment out. Loving the integration
Thanks Mark! Now truly understand that even though I've match the amp voltage - Sub RMS doesn't mean it's not clipping.. I guess time to get one of those DD1..
Very helpful, thanks for posting
Thank you very informative and I am going to get one of those for my van
I'm not talking about the Constructive comments on here but it's funny watching people point out Every little mistake Mark makes,every time he mis labels something or moves his finger in a way that,that person wouldn't personally move their fingers.I have a question.Where is your Video?Where is your KZread channel?Where are your almost 500,000 Subscribers?!?!???It's easy to criticize someone when you have the advantage of watching after the video was made and being an outsider looking in.Keep up the great work Mark! You're so very helpful to Car audio newbs like myself.
Much respect for this video ... Most people just dont understand
I am subscriber and well stay amazed at your creativity. You should be booked for years ahead for SEMA builds! I thank you for sharing your amazing and vast knowledge of all things car audio. I have to tell you on the first video that i stumbled across i was instantly Blown Away by your shop and its cleanliness. It just makes you go Ahhhh :)
Very helpful video thanks man!
I'd be interested to see the output on the volt meter after you tuned out the distortion. Great video though!
@jeffclontz3772
6 жыл бұрын
Ian McDonald I was thinking the same thing
@UrAvgBasshead
6 жыл бұрын
Ian McDonald me too. Let’s see it
@poopandfartjokes
6 жыл бұрын
Ian McDonald I’m guessing it’s 17.2v ish’ Measuring with voltmeter you need to multiply by .707 to properly calculate for RMS. Just my understanding. I could be wrong.
@gunsofsteele
5 жыл бұрын
His POT position using the DMM is a tick higer than using the DD1. Pobably cause he readjusted the stereo volume before using the DD1. Doesn't really matter, I'm cranking my ACDC to MAX everytime!
Wow. That was 5 years ago and the info still stands today.
U just earned a new subscriber.....thank u
You have excellent videos! Keep it up
Bonne vidéo merci d'avoir partager ta routine, ça va m'aider.❤❤❤
Hello mark, I saw the video and wondered if it is possible to use the clipping indicator present on some amps instead of the DD-1 SMD. Thx 😃🔊
When you use a dsp like the audio control 608 and you do all your adjustments on the dsp. Do you leave the amplifier crossover on off or no crossover or you further adjust on the amplifier controls?
Great video, would like to see you do one using a scope and also setting gain overlap
So much more involved than It seems...one day I'll get my system sounding right
Great one on amplifier tuning!
Awesome video. Really makes someone understand every detail in depth. Can you please upload a video of how to set gain, crossover and phase on pioneer ts-wx1210a which has inbuilt amplifier. Thanks
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, now i feel confident to do it myself. Very informative.
It might be worth adding that some amplifiers (DD Audio, Audio Control, Rockford) have a clipping indicator to help set the gains properly. I has been my experience that the DD Audio clip indicators on the D Series are pretty well spot on with the DD-1.
Bro this is excellent content thank you
More videos like this!!! Thanks.
Thank you. This video with the help of Kicker's tech hotline to confirm specs enabled me to tune my first amp/sub combo. The only thing I found confusing was that the power formula used to determine gain voltage was based on the amp specs, and kicker told me to use the speakers specs for the calculation (Amp was 750 RMS versus Speaker which was 400 RMS). I assume that if I used the amp rating (750) and set the gain it would have been too much for the sub. Thank you for this video.
Much help, thank you!
I'm purchasing that amp. Thank you for the video.
For the equation that was used @ 4:00 did you use the amplifiers RMS power or Max power? Also, what if the speakers you're using are rated for less power than your amplifier can put out?
So informative!
Great video. Thanks
hey hey, sweet video!! thank you!!
I like crossovers. I always attempt to make the bass sound like it's coming from the doors as much as possible without distorting the mids and highs.
AWESOME DETAILED VIDEO... MUCH APPRECIATED...
@DrGeta666
6 жыл бұрын
Why are you yelling?
@stillrumone
6 жыл бұрын
LOL...
Very helpful , thank you.
Mark you are the best and have been for a while
This help.. the volt meter and math helped me
Great explanation
This dude is cool and full of life.
Thank you!
Nice video!👍🏽
Brilliant.. will save this video
Thanks so much for yhe help with my sub and amp
Thank for the knoweldge
I think i can also apply this on my out door equipment.
Mark, thanks for the video! Could you please expound on attenuating the warning chimes as mentioned @7:03? Are you just attenuating the front inputs in proportion to the rears? If so, are you summing the FL+RL and the FR+RR? I don't understand how you're attenuating the chimes without affecting the full range of those channels. Thanks!
This content is priceless!!! We already know you love premium quality equipment from AudioControl, do you have any comments about the Kicker Key amps with integrated DSP and auto-tuning capabilities. My guess it’s like comparing a full DSLR camera vs a point and a point and shoot one.
@CarAudioFabrication
Жыл бұрын
Kicker is a reliable manufacture and the Key is nice but using a camera analogy I would equate it with shooting on Auto mode vs Manual. The Key corrects things, but it does it automatically. At the end of the day a pro using "manual" mode and knowing what they are doing will be able to create a better finished result.
Dude this is the most helpful video thank you!!!
You are amazing thank you. I have a a question i have a capasitor I watched u r video but I dont know how to hook it up to the resister n battery to charge?
Love audio control
Solid video
WOW great info!
greetings from russia! this is a easiest way to change correct gain on amp without special device what i see! thanks dude!
After setting the gain using the SMD can you please use the Multimeter to see where the voltage is now at?
Thankz for this video
Thank you
Hi! Been watching lately your videos particularly the tunings, how about tuning a compact powered underseat subwoofer would be appreciated, thanks and more power!
Thanks for the video. I was curious about the difference of using a load resistor when checking for voltage drop. A DMM - obviously has a much higher impedance than a 4 ohm load. I suppose the voltage would be the same, just much lower current out of the output channel of the amp.
Really helpfull thanks a lot.. you are making great videos.. keep on going 😄
Great video Mark. I ordered the DD1 and I'm wondering how should I set the amplifier gains if I have a Clarion equalizer in between the radio and amplifier which has a volume control & a sub boost knob and the 7 parametric EQ knobs. The EQ is mounted in the glove Box so I want to use the radio volume as the control. So would I turn the radio volume to 3/4 And set the volume on the equalizer & subwoofer to max. & Then set the Is amp gain?
Hi Plz show us how to wire up a 3 way crossover with 2 amps and 2 subs
AWESOME VIDEO. THANK YOU.
Would have been cool to see what the difference in voltage was between the voltmeter and the tuner setting
@aaaa-bz3ft
6 ай бұрын
They are the same lol