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American Town Where Everyone is a Murderer
Check out this insane story of a town where EVERYONE is a murderer. How is it even possible that a whole town can be responsible for one man's death? Well, they aren't talking so you'll just have to watch today's crazy new video to find out!
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I love how the law of the town called in the FBI and tried so hard to catch townsfolk who were defending themselves but didn't lift a finger for the actual criminal
@coledavis8591
3 жыл бұрын
Justice system: What's this? A man has been murdered by this guy and several people injured. Pfft. Not my problem Also justice system: what's this. A man that murdered a man and injured many people has been murdered. We mustn't let this horrible crime go unpunished.
@gopronomad4381
2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha were they in his side?
@jeffcampbell2710
2 жыл бұрын
That's not the case. The FBI found it odd that the cop drove out of town just before it happened.
@chickadeestevenson5440
2 жыл бұрын
he had a powerful mob lawyer on retainer.
@Doughboy842
2 жыл бұрын
That's the Feds for ya.
The whole town be like: "I see nothing, I hear nothing, I know nothing."
@jtgd
3 жыл бұрын
🤫
@tlanhluachuteh174
3 жыл бұрын
Hear gunshot tho lol
@nativewildman9335
3 жыл бұрын
NOTHING!
@willambonney
3 жыл бұрын
It's like killing Cesar everyones guilty.
@shantoreywilkins651
3 жыл бұрын
🙈🙉🙊
It feels so weird realizing 1980 was over 40 years ago
@sceptile7581
3 жыл бұрын
@@CodeDoge It feels so weird realizing 1980 was over 40 years ago
@mikedavis1476
3 жыл бұрын
Yes this also hurt me too 😂 I’ll be 43 this year
@mattjack3983
3 жыл бұрын
I would have to agree with the above people that OP's comment is very hurtful and uncalled for😒😔😕
@go-go3319
3 жыл бұрын
Shhhhhhhhh lol
@sayulitalyfe5299
3 жыл бұрын
Even weirder knowing 1950s is only months away
Man this town must’ve really hated that guy, it’s a pretty interesting story and I think he had it coming
@lovely1641
3 жыл бұрын
I mean hey, you go around brandishing a gun, harass the townspeople and cheat your way out of court cases where you were actually wrong long enough, I guess anyone would be fed up
@rita25y.o-checkmyvideo44
3 жыл бұрын
RTHTt
@bobbelcher678
3 жыл бұрын
He robbed and bullied the townsfolk and even shot at people. There’s a buzzfeed unsolved video that goes into more depth
@BenMarvin
3 жыл бұрын
@@lovely1641 watch the mad lads episode on him
@jamesdunn9609
3 жыл бұрын
Not really. I lived just a few miles from Skidmore when this happened. The people there felt it was necessary but also a shame. Apparently when he was a kid, Rex was like any other rural farm kid. But then he suffered a severe head injury in a farm accident and his personality changed completely. He went from being friendly and outgoing to sullen and aggressive. I knew a guy who lived there and he told me in the days following the shooting that everyone felt terrible about what happened, but then he looked me in the eye and said, in typical rural Missouri fashion, "but as much as you may love 'em, what else can you do with a chicken eatin' dog?"
faith in humanity restored when not even one person from the town snitched
Correction: The people of the town obtained justice from a legal system that was only interested in protecting the criminal, both in life and in death.
@USAFreewayROTF
3 жыл бұрын
Correction, correction: The people of the town obtained justice from a legal system that was only interested in protecting the guy with the most money.
@mrreyes5004
2 жыл бұрын
@@USAFreewayROTF Yup. I'm glad McElroy's few supporters will never truly get the guy who did it. Trena, his wife who most likely had severe Stockholm Syndryome, only got like $17,000 in restitution, but even then that just feels like a pity throw. This whole case really was a wake-up call that if those in power think they can go too long failing the masses without said masses rising up to take matters into their own hands, they got another thing coming. Marie Antoinette should've been a historical example to learn from.
I also love how the town got together and worked as a community to get rid of this guy... just goes to show when everyone is fed up of someone they will come together to do all they can.
A bully got his Karma and the police should be embarrassed this man was a known troublemaker if he was willing to terrorize the town that drove them to do vigilante justice.
@colbynicley4766
3 жыл бұрын
The police arrested him it's the district attorneys Job to prosecut. The police can't do any more than arrest.
@NoopyxD
3 жыл бұрын
The police arrested that man several times already. it's really the towns court fault for letting him go 🙄
@_.Infinity._
3 жыл бұрын
The police did their job. The Jury failed at it.
@Tuturial464
3 жыл бұрын
No the justice system failed to protect the witnesses and a corrupt lawyer
@ladynikkie
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tuturial464 yes believe that is lawyer was an attorney for the mob that's how he got away with it so much
As problematic as vigilante justice is, there are those rare cases where they get it right. This is one of them.
@humansvd3269
2 жыл бұрын
these days, you can't trust the cops to do it right. it's now just a worship of bureaucracy...
@pollypockets508
Жыл бұрын
They really didn't have any other choice.
Honestly, i don't feel bad at all, in fact i'm kinda glad this happened before things got worse.
@mgrant011
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like he had it coming.
@Mario87456
3 жыл бұрын
He got what he deserved and I hope they NEVER find out who is responsible.
@NPCuser-xi9so
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mario87456 even if they did they’re probably dead
@Mario87456
3 жыл бұрын
@@NPCuser-xi9so Yeah I’m am fine if they find out who the killer is but ONLY if the killer is already dead.
@StevenMichaelCunningham
3 жыл бұрын
That is due to your being perverse currently.
That’s not really how it happened… he was already parked. They surrounded his truck, took the lady out, then opened up fire. The Marshall was “not in town” that day.
@Harrsas
3 жыл бұрын
That makes more sense cause how would the car come to a stop and not crash
@thomasswafford250
3 жыл бұрын
@@Harrsas I believe his foot was on the brake and the motor was burned up by the engine running and the brake engaged.
@missouribackwoodsadventures
3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasswafford250 Nah. He was parked outside the legion in town. It actually happened after a town meeting where they were discussing what to do with him.
@carryeveryday910
3 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. The sheriff had been confronted by the town about what to do and after informing them multiple times to start a “neighborhood watch” he left town to attend to other business.
@thundercricket4634
2 жыл бұрын
Actually he was parked at the time of the shooting. And his wife was in the truck with him but they avoided shooting her and simply killed Ken. After he'd been shot one of the men got her out of the truck and walked her up the block where she was taken care of. Depending on which documentary you're watching, apparently there was a lot of contempt for his wife amongst the townspeople as well as she was frequently a minor accomplice of sorts in some of his crimes and would frequently accuse anyone who voiced a complaint against her husband of being dishonest. Likely explanation is that after 10+ years of intensive abuse by the lunatic she was thoroughly in the grips of Stockholm.
This is called street justice. It’s often necessary
@mrfixit3666
3 жыл бұрын
But leads to chaos.
@Karlos1234ify
3 жыл бұрын
The court system has failed so many times
@joeyjohnson4826
3 жыл бұрын
@@Karlos1234ify did it fail? Or did it fail to provide an outcome you wanted???? I could go in t o the conversation in plato republic... justice🤔 what is justice? Hmm... would one consider a lynchi mob justice? What is justice? Your desired outcome? Or something else?
@bruhx1250
3 жыл бұрын
@@joeyjohnson4826 you sound like a conspiracy theorist
@sherlockholmes2497
3 жыл бұрын
@@bruhx1250 no he doesn't. Whatever he said were facts.
It's not like they didn't try and do it the other way. The legal system failed them, so they took care of it.
@jayd6028
3 жыл бұрын
They did not try it the other way
@RoyCyberPunk
3 жыл бұрын
@@jayd6028 Dude he was charged and tried 5 times and he always managed to get free.
@jayd6028
3 жыл бұрын
@@RoyCyberPunk witnesses recanted... Not much you can do when that happens
@ethanweeter2732
2 жыл бұрын
@@jayd6028 They recanted out of fear from intimidation.
Usually I'm against vigilante "justice". This case is not usual though. The failure of legal justice there was egregious. People murdering someone because the sentence wasn't satisfying enough for them is one thing. Entire town killing off a psychopath terrorising everyone, because the law somehow couldn't properly incapacitate him from doing crimes for far too long is another.
@madking1485
3 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@MHShah17
3 жыл бұрын
Rare occasion of USA's loose gun laws helping people
@kurtlindner
3 жыл бұрын
@@MHShah17 If it were England -long bows.
@spooniesarah
3 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%
@3182john
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't get why ppl didn't just do the right thing and tell the courts the honest truth.
They'll do all that including calling in the FBI to try and find out who killed this guy but wouldn't do anything about him terrorizing the town? That's wild.
@araza20111
3 жыл бұрын
thats american justice in a nutshell
@MHShah17
3 жыл бұрын
USA, makes negative sense
@MHShah17
3 жыл бұрын
@Kelvin not always, but it seems US seems heavy in that type using police as a way to abuse power
@trichard6618
Жыл бұрын
Ken's attorney and widow were the ones that called the FBI. Shortly after Ken's death his house mysteriously burned to the ground. Trend, her children, Ken's other "wives" and children were more or less forced to move out of the county. Trena McElroy was a child when Ken Rex targeted her. She had mental and emotional problems after years of abuse at the hands of her "husband."
Whoever shot that guy, if you’re reading this, your a true American hero
@crazyfire9470
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t get the reference...
@holasenoras7535
3 жыл бұрын
U saying that is sooo American 💀
@hassantako982
3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@yahir4640
3 жыл бұрын
they are a murderer too… are we gonna start glorifying killers?
@reversetime5956
3 жыл бұрын
@@yahir4640 yes
They just literally did a Bonnie and Clyde style shootout on the son of a birch
@joshtaylor4285
3 жыл бұрын
More like a son of a pine lol
I am surprised that he got to do so much to this town before getting rightfully shot. Americans back then weren't as trigger-happy as they are today.
Having heard more extensive versions of the same story, the video downplayed just how vile the man really was. Nothing of value was lost that day.
“Town where everyone is a murderer” it was like two ppl
@Matthiaskyriakidis
3 жыл бұрын
well that is true and misleading, in theory they are guilty by association
@legendarystatus4705
3 жыл бұрын
@@Matthiaskyriakidis true
@thomasswafford250
3 жыл бұрын
@@Matthiaskyriakidis they did what they had to do. He was a threat to people and was continuing to be.
@Matthiaskyriakidis
3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasswafford250 well I know that I am talking in legal terms they are guilty also. But I would have killed they guy long before anyone else would. He was a dangerous person.
@MikeMaduxx
3 жыл бұрын
Clicky Bait! Clicky Bait! Even your favorite channel is guilty of it! They can't help themselves. It's the same as newspapers.
"Trina, he's dead. You can stop defending him now!"
@SparklRebel
3 жыл бұрын
Stockholm syndrome is a powerful thing
@wrmusic8736
3 жыл бұрын
on the contrary - she did love the bad boy, while enjoying life without responsibility under him, and was just upset he got whacked and she became nobody
@ethanweeter2732
2 жыл бұрын
@@wrmusic8736 She missed the money.
Sounds like justice to me!
@T.K.P.
3 жыл бұрын
Not in the eyes of this narrator, according to him, whole town was killer.
@chanpiggy3938
3 жыл бұрын
A taste of his own medicine
@n.5731
3 жыл бұрын
It was Nothing like justice
@basicallyjason8111
3 жыл бұрын
@@T.K.P. technically they are, but in this case, they are killers for the right cause
@thomasswafford250
3 жыл бұрын
@@n.5731 was it right for them to have to live in fear?
No one can say that he didn't get what he had coming.
@simoc24
3 жыл бұрын
Lol so true
@savagelove1044
3 жыл бұрын
He didn’t deserve it tho guys a true legend
@theoriginaltroll388
3 жыл бұрын
Merica
@mattjack3983
3 жыл бұрын
Dude definitely had it coming
@816aidan
3 жыл бұрын
@@savagelove1044 Cool bait loser.
I think we all know what REALLY happened. The man clearly shot himself. Twice. With two different rifles. It was the darndest thing, I tell ya.
If this story is true, let's all say this man has it coming to him. A criminal who is easily angered and get so physical is a huge safety hazard for everyone in the community or in fact the country if he been able to expand his criminal activities across the country.
@Igarappappa
3 жыл бұрын
Oh, it's true. This was a huge story when it happened.
@bequiettaylor2783
3 жыл бұрын
It’s true. I actually live here - and the school that lives in a town about 5/10 minutes away they’ve covered this before.
@ethanweeter2732
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is exactly why they knew he had to die. Take care of the problem before it becomes a bigger problem.
"We saw nothing... We don't know anything that's our story and we're sticking to it." Skidmore, Missouri.
"It was over in a moment and the folks had gathered round: There before them lay the body of the outlaw on the ground.' 👍
@robert-janthuis9927
3 жыл бұрын
Oh, he might have went on living but he made one fatal slip When he tried to match the ranger with the big iron on his hip
@johnshuster5380
3 жыл бұрын
@@robert-janthuis9927 Big iron on his hip
@DennisWHJr
3 жыл бұрын
BIG IRON ON HIIIIIP
@imperialguardsman5929
3 жыл бұрын
Eminem been real quiet after this beat dropped
Justice served.
Nice to see a community come together in unity to solve a problem. 😁👍
Karma came back to provide consequences to him for being a very bad person to everyone within that particular city.
Justice is a job of a society not that of a government. Skidmore sounds like a true american town
@Makarosc
3 жыл бұрын
Well it's a ghost town now
@thedude4672
3 жыл бұрын
In our democracy, the government is formed by society, the people. ["By the people, for the people ...."] It's not perfect, but it's the USA.
@fookyu1621
3 жыл бұрын
@@thedude4672 theres nobody i voted for in office. Last time the people had taxation without representation they shed blood for their rights. You can call it what you will but when the rich rig the game to always win thats an oligarchy not a democracy. If wed listened to Jefferson and had a revolution once per generation you wouldn't have the obama deep state the bush war machine or the clinton drug running. I like a society in which the people ruling have to face the masses without armed security. There once was a time you could slap a president and let that lieing snake know youre onto him
@WoziePozie
Жыл бұрын
It really is. I live less than 20 minutes from there.
Lets have a minute for the Animators of this channel.
@KD-kl4sx
3 жыл бұрын
Why ? It’s not that spectacular animation, maybe one of the cheapest too create, hence why they do it this way
@VampyRagDoll
3 жыл бұрын
@@KD-kl4sx you have no idea how long it takes, do you?
@chase5015
3 жыл бұрын
they use assets. I assume theres a massive team.
@bensanderson2523
3 жыл бұрын
@@KD-kl4sx yes, the style may displease you, but the effort put in even with a large team is immense for the time of the videos and the quantity of them. Don't downplay the success of the animation, even if the original comment didn't go into too much detail and was a bit templated.
@p.h.i.lcongure9168
3 жыл бұрын
@@KD-kl4sx even the simplest of animation takes more time and effort than you realise. Animators are under appreciated and people who have no idea what work goes into it constantly overlook them
I'm from KCMO. My sister's friend's uncle is from Skidmore and apparently he was there when McElroy was killed.
This is beautiful karma for the FBI since they couldn’t bring the oppresser to justice because of legal loopholes. It’s only fair the community are tight lipped and don’t tell them anything. They don’t deserve to know
This is how a community should behave against this kind of criminality and flawed system.
Well done Skidmore
Wasn’t their more about him? I thought it was more... didn’t he kidnapped her to be his wife and force her to do things etc.
@ghostcat8244
3 жыл бұрын
@@Abusedtinsley17 that’s actually where I got the question from I watch his video about it a while back. And it was allot of info that they left off that he cover way more on.
@ghostcat8244
3 жыл бұрын
@@Abusedtinsley17 that’s what I was thinking honestly.
Necessary street justice. He got what he was asking for.
If this is the case I think it is, then the guy was asking for it. He was a bully who went around stealing and acting like he owned the town. Law enforcement refused to do their jobs, so they forced the town residents to take matters into their own hands.
It was so big here where I lived, about an hour away. The sheriff eventually moved to my town and died here. He said he would never tell who did it, or who started until. He would take it to his grave.
I remember this. He got his justice.
The cops and FBI put way more time and effort into finding his killer than they ever did on all his previous charges combined. Nice to see that nothing has changed since then as the priority was in protecting the justice system, not the people it serves.
@jamie_ghosh.johnson
Жыл бұрын
I know right, the polices and FBI. Spend their time looking for his killer, then try to bring him into justice. For the crime he did. The polices and FBI doesn’t have to find his killer’s to give him justice, if the justice system did their job properly then the people. Wouldn’t have to take the problems in their hand and take care of him. I think polices and FBI shouldn’t have done a investigation on this. And it slide as no one is going to give Ken Rex any sympathy.
The captions are a different story
@claudiu7909
3 жыл бұрын
LOL, just turned them on, it's like a weird reboot of the same episode
@britishwatermelon680
3 жыл бұрын
“Most of you will have the ability to use that bit of the brain and push back more animal”
@umidk2844
3 жыл бұрын
@@claudiu7909 we can make memorable quotes out of this
Isn't it illegal to threaten witness...also shouldn't have the authorities been arrested for corruption
It wasn't just one shooter there was actually three and probably 30 people who seen it but this guy was a huge POS and he got what he had coming.
What a tragedy, he was shot dead in broad daylight. Anyways, did you know that it's only possible to lead a cow upstairs, but not downstairs? Pretty interesting, am I right?
The closed captions tell a totally different story than what’s being said. I bet there are some deaf people who are so confused by this 🤣
@MsMomNerd
3 жыл бұрын
Right?!?!
@ekarll1722
3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@MissBee13
3 жыл бұрын
yep.
This guy sounds like someone you create in Bitlife and then you make him evil LOL
my grandparents knew this guy and used to tell me stories about him when i was a kid. i cant remember where they're from but my dad was born in st. jo and grew up in mexico mo
But the title is incorrect. Also, why is Skidmore so crime-ridden even to this day?
I seen a documentary on this he was a horrible person according to the people of the town
I live near this town. It's a story still told of course. Nobody will say a word, they won't even mention his name. The older guys know most of the story about his death, but it's riveting to hear it from those that were there or knew folks that were.
Having watched the documentary, that guy had it coming.
Demonic wife. Now that she was at the receiving end of oppression she has the audacity to demand and scream for justice. It was all fun and games until the tables were turned on them. So nice that the story ended the way it did. They could make a movie out of this.
@stratometal
3 жыл бұрын
I want to shed light on something relating to the wife. She was a victim, a pure example of stockholm syndrome. The man took her as wife when she was underage, when she fled he showed up and threatened the family she was staying with until she came back home. Demonic... no. Sad victim of this demonic individual, yes.
@davidw6684
3 жыл бұрын
A TV movie was made about it. The title "In Broad Daylight". Brian Dennehy played the bad guy.
@garchompelago
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidw6684 very noice
As a state native, we call this an "oops"
I grew up about 12 miles away from this, I was 11 at the time. People from the big tv stations (I remember Geraldo and some folks from 60 Minutes) came to town....it was quite a deal, I don't remember it all but I do remember some. The guy who got shot was a terrible, terrible person. I know a few folks from Skidmore.....I've never heard a single name mentioned. I've never seen anything like this before or since. Never seen so many people able to stay so quiet for so long.
Blood splaying onto the dashboard, what a way to start a video
@comrade_kaimana
3 жыл бұрын
agreed
Lawyers like that should be barred from their practice at minimum, maybe even criminally charged equal to the person they knowingly got out of jail.
Fifteen year ago I moved to a tiny Missouri town. It's not far from this one. These people can keep a secret! You will always be the outsider. It can be eerie at first.
I don’t blame them. I grew up in one of those towns with untouchable and violent people. I would’ve been ecstatic if someone took them out.
Buzzfeed Unsolved did a great and lengthy video on this. The justice system failed so the citizens stepped up to the plate.
Good for the people of that town. Did what had to be done cut out the cancer and no snitches.
Imagine getting clapped by an entire town, You must've made a Lotta mistakes for that to happen
There comes a breaking point and these people had reached it. Authorities and the legal system have failed them one too many times so there was no one in authority or law enforcement they could trust to do their job. He would have killed someone eventually and no one was willing to let it either be them or someone they loved. It may not be the kind of justice most people like, but it was justice. No one in that town has done anything like that again.
Read the book, and visited the location. He was a horribly evil person, just deserts.
I remember hearing this story a few years ago. I still don't blame that town. I would have not told the police anything either. That man had to go imo.
They took "Stop Snitching" to the ultimate level
Stories like this should serve to disabuse most of the belief that the legal system exists for their protection. But it will not. Such is the power of immersive childhood education.
This is actually one of the stories I knew coming into it it was covered on buzzfeed unsolved it’s such a crazy story
I remember this case. The man was a literal town bully....
Ken McElroy got what was coming to him. He bullied that town for such a long time and they were sick of it. The final nail in his coffin was getting such a lenient sentence for shooting a 70 year old in the neck.
There's a fantastic mad lad video covering this it's got far more detail worth a watch. Great video here too
Justice served at its best
When a guy's so much of a bastich; he pretty much deserves his fate...
@cocacola4blood365
3 жыл бұрын
Not just any bastich. A fargin bastich.
@erniebuchinski3614
3 жыл бұрын
A bastich, you say? That's quite similar to a fuggin' sumbitch, I believe. ;-)
McElroy was basically Don Fanucci from Godfather 2. When someone finally killed him no one complained because no one missed him.
Yeah he had it coming. The cops working this case should probably just sip coffee and play on their phones while investigating this.
Officer: You're under arrest! McElroy: On what grounds? Officer: For several counts of every crime under the sun!
America legit is a roller-coaster country
If people on the internet think cities are corrupt, wait till you hear about small towns.
that's what people do. McElroy was a bully, but everyone would rather stick up for their friend who did something illegal rather than help a man who is hurt, but not liked. they all will shout "I am Spartacus" when the cops come asking for a shooter.
This happens in a lot of towns :( so sad the justice system didnt protect these poor people :(
Sounds like America.
@macnzee7572
3 жыл бұрын
* is america
@crazyfire9470
3 жыл бұрын
Funny
A bully always gets what’s coming to him eventually .
Unsolved. It was poetic justice.
So this is basically the American Hot Fuzz? 😂
@CooperBMX
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@aardeng
3 жыл бұрын
The movie roadhouse was based on this story
The only injustice here is if someone was caught for it lolz.
@JohnH20111
Жыл бұрын
that’s never going to happen, because everyone is going to take that secret with them to the grave
Wouldn't consider anyone in that town a murderer, they were defending themselves.
Ken McLeroy is my aunt’s uncle. His family still lives in the Ozarks and my family goes there every summer. Pretty cool that my favorite YT channel posted about him.
@paullentz1972
Жыл бұрын
Uncle Ken got what was coming to him! I love how the whole town basically decided to stick to their 'we didnt see nothing, Mr. Officer'! Snitches get Stiches!
Ahh.. there IS some justice in this world..
Aww, the story has a happy ending.
You can’t be a bully as an adult, it just doesn’t work 😭
17 bullet wounds? Worst suicide I've ever heard of!
This channel is the best. Change my mind
@hamburger3657
3 жыл бұрын
mrbeast exists
@legoman3022
3 жыл бұрын
I can't
@Gojifan-
3 жыл бұрын
Pewdiepie exists
@JJ-wm6vj
3 жыл бұрын
Kurzgesagt exists
@legoman3022
3 жыл бұрын
@@JJ-wm6vj who the f is that
I'm surprised they didn't go after McFadden too.
Those townspeople are true heroes.
I'm only 20 seconds into this and already see/hear several inaccuracies. The truck was parked in front of the D & G Tavern, not driving down the road. Also after Ken was shot, the truck did not idle. His foot slumped forward, pushing the gas pedal to the floor and racing the engine for a couple of minutes until it blew up. Details matter. Also, Bo was in the back of the store when the candy incident occurred on April 25th, 1980. He had no contact with the McElroy children, which made it even more confusing as to why Ken's rage focused on him specifically.
He Yeed one to many Haws
@motherlove202
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bravo to this ( I can't take no more) community!👍 When the (town folk) work together, to get rid of the vermin! The lawyer should've been next.🤣🤭
There were three made for TV movies based on this story. Brian Dennehy played the bully in the one titled IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. .
There's no way to blame for McElroy's downfall and death but himself.